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Trump Complains of Rigged System; Trump Gets Stomped on the Walk of Fame; Clinton Shifts Focus, Attacks Trump Instead; Securing the Euro 2016 Tournament; North Korean Media Warn Defectors of Preemptive Attacks; High North Korean Official Defected; ISIS Tries to Lure New Recruits in Afghanistan; Boko Haram Turning Girls into Killers; Prince William, Katherine in India. Aired 1-2a ET
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[01:00:09] JOHN VAUSE, CNN ANCHOR: This is CNN NEWSROOM live from Los Angeles.
Ahead this hour, he may be leading the race for the Republican nomination, but Donald Trump is claiming the fix is in.
Plus, new threats from North Korea after a high level military official defects from Kim Jong-Un's regime.
And one of the suspects in the Brussels attacks claims his terror cell plan to target one of the biggest football tournaments in the world.
Hello, everybody. Great to have you with us. I'm John Vause. Another hour of NEWSROOM L.A. starts right now.
We begin with the race for the White House and new claims from the Republican frontrunner Donald Trump that the system is rigged. Trump was in Albany, New York, on Monday telling supporters even though he's ahead by millions of votes he thinks the way delegates are awarded is unfair. This comes after his closest rival Ted Cruz swept all the delegates in Colorado over the weekend.
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DONALD TRUMP (R), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: It's a fix. Because we thought we were having an election, and a number of months ago, they decided to do it by, you know what, right? Right? They -- they said we'll do it by delegate. They said they're going to do it by delegate. Isn't that nice? And the delegates were all there, all waiting, and the head guy, in fact, one of them tweeted out today or said today by mistake and then they withdrew it, something to the effect, see never Trump. Look what we did. Never Trump. Because if I go to the voters of Colorado, we win Colorado. So it's a crooked, crooked system.
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VAUSE: A top aide to Donald Trump accuses the Cruz campaign of using Gestapo tactics in the fight for delegates. But Ted Cruz insists he's playing fair. He was in California Monday and says he's confident of his chances if Donald Trump does not get a majority of delegates before the party's convention in July.
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SEN. TED CRUZ (R), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: Now in response, Donald has been yelling and screaming. A lot of whining. I'm sure some cursing. And some late-night fever tweeting. All the characteristics I would note we would want of a commander-in-chief. And the latest thing he seized upon is when people vote against him. They're stealing the election. It's a really odd notion.
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VAUSE: John Kasich is calling on the Republican Party to adopt new rules that would open up the nomination to more candidates, like him. He was on a CNN town hall with his family Monday night in New York.
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GOV. JOHN KASICH (R), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: If I'm the only one that can win in the fall, how do you pick somebody else? And let me tell you what --
ANDERSON COOPER, CNN ANCHOR: But why would a delegate pick you if the only state you've actually won is Ohio?
KASICH: Well, let's see how many delegates we accumulate. But why would you pick somebody who can't win in the fall? Let me tell you what the stakes are. I believe if you pick these other guys you're not only going to lose the White House, you'll lose the court. You will lose the United States Senate and you're going to lose a lot of seats --
COOPER: Why can't Ted Cruz win?
KASICH: Because they're too divisive. They're too negative.
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VAUSE: Nationally syndicated radio host and conservative analyst Larry Elder joins me now here in Los Angeles.
OK, Larry, had John Kasich on the first night of our three town halls here on CNN. He's obviously feeling pretty upbeat. You know, he's going to make this late run if they all get to this contested convention. What do you rate his chances of actually, you know, pulling this out of the hat somehow?
LARRY ELDER, SYNDICATED RADIO HOST: Better than they were a few weeks ago.
VAUSE: What's happened?
ELDER: This is home turf.
VAUSE: Yes. ELDER: Donald Trump did not win in Colorado. He got wiped out. It
wasn't like there was a secret handshake. The rules were fixed in August. He should have paid attention and hired some people. If they go into Cleveland without anybody having a majority of delegates, the longer the ballot goes, the more likely I think the delegates are going to turn to somebody who they think can beat Hillary in the fall. And right now, like it or not, Kasich is the only one of the three major ones who in the polls can beat Hillary.
VAUSE: You raised a good point there. He should have found out about the rules before he started the race.
ELDER: Right.
VAUSE: On the campaign trail, Donald Trump has said, I will hire the best people and they'll advise me and tell me what to do. Why didn't he hire the best person to tell him how the nomination process worked?
ELDER: You are asking the wrong person. We need to ask Mr. Trump that. You know what happens when --
VAUSE: Is it a fair criticism, though?
ELDER: Absolutely. What happens when candidates fall off is you kick off their advisers. I remember back in 1980 when Ronald Reagan was running against George Herbert Walker Bush. He beat Bush. The next thing you know, James Baker, one of the top aides, a wise head, sharp guy, sharp guy, very crafty, started working for Reagan.
[01:05:08] What Donald Trump should have done is maybe get Bobby Jindall's top guy, or Scott Walker's top guy, or Jeb Bush's top guy. And get somebody with some real experience and learn the rules and stop whining about how unfair and corrupt they are.
VAUSE: Yes. And Reince Priebus, the chair of the RNC, you know, he tweeted this out. He said, "The rules were set last year," which is your point. "Nothing mysterious. Nothing new. The rules have not changed. The rules are the same."
ELDER: Right.
VAUSE: "Nothing different." OK. I got two takes on this. My first question to you, if Donald Trump continues to go on, continues to complain, does he look like a whiner, not a winner?
ELDER: Absolutely he does. And this whole thing is, I'm a winner. Remember the line, you're going to get so tired of winning. So it's going to be a real problem if he's perceived to be somebody who when he loses instead of regrouping and figuring out what he did wrong whines about the process.
VAUSE: OK. I'll give you my other side because I'm in two minds about this. I'm wondering if this fits into this narrative, though, which is the establishment is against me. Look at that, I've got more votes, which he does have, but they're rigging the system. Because the vast majority of people out there, especially within the Republican Party, I think the polls show they want the person with the most votes to have the most delegates.
ELDER: Well, I think he's right. The establishment, if you mean by that people like McConnell, like Paul Ryan, don't think he can win like most of the delegates very likely don't think he can win, he's right. But the establishment also, in my opinion, is against Ted Cruz. And he is a vehicle that they're using to stop Donald Trump. And once they get into Cleveland and there's no Donald Trump with a majority of delegates, they're going to throw Ted Cruz overboard as well.
VAUSE: I mean, that's the thing about Ted Cruz. He's got this great ground game, and he is milking the system, working it, however you want to talk about it. Is that going to go against him in some way? Could he be, you know, losing by winning if you like?
ELDER: Some of the establishment guys are now on his side?
VAUSE: Ted Cruz, too smart by half.
ELDER: One of the things that Donald Trump has done is made Ted Cruz a lot more palatable but I think still he's got a problem. People on the Hill don't like him. He's the one who's made Republicans feel that they talk the talk and don't walk the walk. He's not very popular. And for all those reasons I think he's being used right now and they're going to abandon him as soon as they can get a chance to.
VAUSE: Very quickly, I mean, there was this interesting analysis done by NBC News that basically Donald Trump is benefiting by being the frontrunner. He's got like 22 percent more delegates than votes.
ELDER: That's true.
VAUSE: You know, say he does have an advantage here within the system, right?
ELDER: Well, both do.
VAUSE: Yes?
ELDER: You can make the argument that both he and Trump have 80 percent of the votes.
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ELDER: Yes. So both of them have the advantage.
VAUSE: Yes. OK. Larry, good to speak with you. Thanks so much.
ELDER: My pleasure.
VAUSE: Well, as the race shifts to California, there's a concerted campaign to have Donald Trump removed from the iconic Hollywood Walk of Fame. Actually it's a star. And more than 36,000 people have signed an online petition to have it taken away. Officials say that won't happen. Meantime, the star, much like the man, is attracting both supporters and protesters. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Doing bad signs. They are spitting over the star. Drama with Donald Trump's star.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I saw somebody throw an ice cream cone down. And then somebody put -- they just cleaned the star and then all of a sudden somebody just about an hour later put a gold stripe across it of paint.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: No, I didn't know they were vandalizing his star. It's a shame.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It's not right for them to do that, but I understand their frustration. He's caused a lot of issues and problems toward people and just hurt a lot of people. So, you know, people lash out in different ways.
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VAUSE: Lindsey Horvath is the mayor of West Hollywood and she has a message for Donald Trump which is basically stay away. Right? Very quickly, we'll get to that in a moment. I just want to ask you about this petition to have the star removed. Where do you stand? Is it a good idea, a bad idea?
MAYOR LINDSEY HORVATH, WEST HOLLYWOOD, CALIFORNIA: You know, I think the Hollywood Chamber of Commerce needs to do exactly what they believe reflects their values. And that's why I wrote the letter that I did to Donald Trump's campaign.
VAUSE: OK.
HORVATH: I wrote a letter basically telling him that his hate speech, that the violent tactics he's been encouraging have no place in civil society and they certainly are not welcomed in our community.
VAUSE: Some of that letter, you wrote in part, "I want to make very clear that your campaign of violence and intimidation is not welcome in our city. I demand that you renounce calls to violence and consider the role you play in shaping public discourse, especially with the words you choose and the behavior you exhibit and encourage."
But let's get real here. Donald Trump is not likely to come to West Hollywood to hold a rally, is he?
HORVATH: Well, you know, we're making the message loud and clear and people are listening. And I think that that's what's most important. What we're really talking about is the role that we play in encouraging civil discourse. We have a role to play in elevating the debate and making people focus on the issues and calling out hate speech. Calling out the violent tactics that he's using. That's exactly what we're trying to do.
VAUSE: The "L.A. Times," though, took exception to what you said. They wrote in an editorial, "Sorry, but denying the Trump campaign a permit that is available to other political speakers would be shutting down speech. Just as it would be if a conservative mayor denied a permit for a Bernie Sanders rally."
[01:10:04] All right. That does seem like a fair point. I guess the argument here is shouldn't voters be allowed to come and listen to these people and then make up their own minds?
HORVATH: This isn't about free speech. This is about hate speech. And the "L.A. Times" called Trump deplorable. They said that his comments about Muslims, about Mexicans, about women were offensive. And I completely agree. And his followers are following suit. His supporters are writing e-mails to me from all over the country threatening to gut me like a fish, sending me videos of aborted fetus parts, using homophobic slurs and racial slurs. And these kinds of words, this language is what incites violence against the kinds of communities that are in my community. And I don't want to see that happen.
VAUSE: So you put, you know, the actions of the supporters, the responsibility for that at the feet of Donald Trump?
HORVATH: Well, they're following his lead. And he hasn't denounced the violent tactics that have come out of his supporters. Unlike other candidates who have had supporters who have done so. So I think what I'm really trying to say here is that we are a community that embraces everyone. We don't apologize for our diversity. We celebrate our diversity. What makes West Hollywood a great community is we have over 40 percent LGBT residents, we have Russian speaking immigrants, some of whom come from concentration camps. So they know firsthand the impacts of hate speech and violence. That's not what we want to bring to our communities.
VAUSE: So just last point on this because some of the legal scholars out there have been quoted as saying that while it is deplorable, and some of it is objectionable and many people would not argue that at all, it does not raise to the technical legal level of hate speech from Donald Trump.
HORVATH: Again, this isn't about free speech. This is about hate speech.
VAUSE: But the hate speech isn't really --
HORVATH: I know First Amendment --
VAUSE: His speech isn't reaching that level is what they are saying.
HORVATH: Well, no First Amendment rights have been violated. I mean, no event permits have been denied. None have even been requested just as you alluded to. So right now what we're focusing on is asking him to change his language, to focus his tactics on the issues and not on the people that he's targeting.
VAUSE: Mayor, thank you for coming in.
HORVATH: Thank you. VAUSE: Very nice speaking to you.
HORVATH: Thank you very much.
VAUSE: Appreciate it.
And Donald Trump's son Eric and his daughter Ivanka won't actually be voting in next week's New York primary. That's because they missed the registration deadline. Trump says they were unaware of the rules. Sounds familiar. And they feel very, very guilty.
Trump also says Ivanka will not be his vice presidential running mate. He says he was just kidding when he floated that idea in December.
Democratic presidential frontrunner Hillary Clinton is leading rival Bernie Sanders in a New York poll ahead of the state's April 19th primary. Now she's pivoting, focusing her attacks on Donald Trump.
Here's Jeff Zeleny.
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HILLARY CLINTON (D), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: Hi, everybody.
JEFF ZELENY, CNN SENIOR WASHINGTON CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Hillary Clinton started the day with one rival on her mind.
CLINTON: Trump's rhetoric, his divisiveness, his incitement of aggressive behavior, even violence, is absolutely unacceptable and needs to be called out.
ZELENY: From the campaign trail to a new campaign commercial.
CLINTON: Donald Trump says we can solve America's problems by turning against each other.
ZELENY: But in her fight for the New York primary, Clinton's fixation on Trump is actually all about a far more pressing rival, Bernie Sanders. She's hoping to show Democrats she's the toughest candidate to take on Trump. But Sanders is focused squarely on Clinton, reminding Democrats they have a choice.
SEN. BERNIE SANDERS (D), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: I will be damned if we're going to see the American dream die.
ZELENY: Traveling in upstate New York today, Sanders said voters should think big and not take no for an answer.
SANDERS: What may have been considered unrealistic or pie-in-the-sky just a few years ago has now been achieved in New York because you made it happen.
ZELENY: He seized on New York's ban on fracking.
SANDERS: On this issue of fracking, Secretary Clinton and I have some very strong differences of opinion. ZELENY: The sharp differences of opinion will be front and center at
their debate Thursday on CNN.
At a diner in Queens, Clinton raised questions about how prepared Sanders is for the job.
CLINTON: I have noticed that, under the bright spotlight and scrutiny here in New York, Senator Sanders has had trouble answering questions.
ZELENY: But Clinton is also bracing for more attacks from Sanders on her ties to Wall Street.
CLINTON: Let it happen. Let it happen. I have a plan that will actually work. Senator Sanders couldn't even answer questions about whatever his plan is. So we'll talk.
ZELENY: A shift in tone from her appearance Sunday on CNN's "STATE OF THE UNION" with Jake Tapper, where Clinton downplayed her differences with Sanders.
CLINTON: I don't have anything negative to say about him.
ZELENY: But Sanders has plenty to say about Clinton.
SANDERS: I have my doubts about what kind of president she would make.
ZELENY: He amplified the criticism in a new ad today, raising questions about her ability to stand up to corporate interests.
[01:15:05] UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Bernie, he can't be bought by them because he's funded by you.
ZELENY: Jeff Zeleny, CNN, Port Washington, New York.
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VAUSE: And CNN's Anderson Cooper is hosting town halls with all of the Republican presidential candidates as well as their families. And if you missed him, you can see a replay of John Kasich coming up Tuesday at noon in London. Watch Donald Trump same time on Tuesday and Senator Ted Cruz Thursday also at noon.
Democrats Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders will face off in a CNN debate live Friday 2:00 a.m. Friday in London. Stay up. Get up early. Set the alarm.
When we come back, terrifying new claim from one suspect in the Belgium attacks. A major sporting event apparently an ISIS target.
Also ahead, North Korea is threatening to wipe out defectors after one of its senior military officials escapes to South Korea. We'll tell you why his defection is such a coup for Seoul.
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VAUSE: Welcome back, everybody. Police in Belgium are trying to verify a disturbing claim from one of the Brussels terror suspects. Mohamed Abrini says the ISIS cell behind the Paris and Brussels attacks planned to hit the Euro 2016 football championships.
[01:20:08] The tournament set for this summer in France is one of the world's biggest sporting events. Even before Mohamed Abrini's arrest emergency officials in France have begun to prepare for the worst at the Euro 2016 tournament.
CNN's Jim Bittermann shows us how they rehearsed for a terror attack.
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JIM BITTERMANN, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Just days before the terrorist attack in Brussels it looked like terrorists were on the attack in France, using chemical weapons. It looked like that because it was meant to.
This was a practice run for first responders, security chiefs and government officials to give all a look at what might actually happen if such an attack did occur during the coming Euro 2016 football tournament. With eight million supporters expected at stadiums and fans zones across the country, assuring public safety is a major nightmare for the French government.
The tournament is set to begin less than three months after the terrorist attacks in Brussels and seven months after the bloody events of November 13th in Paris. An assault that began with suicide bombings during a soccer match outside the same stadium with the opening and closing games of Euro 2016 will take place.
The government is trying to sound as reassuring as possible.
MANUEL VALLS, FRENCH PRIME MINISTER (Through Translator): I hope that the tourists who haven't returned since November 13th will return for this, to celebrate, to share a moment and to see games on big screens.
BITTERMANN: Government reassurances however have not been enough to convince everyone.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We know that some fans are selling their tickets on Web sites because they are afraid.
BITTERMANN: Security officials promised 10,000 military and police will be on duty to keep everyone safe during the month-long Euro 2016 tournament, but the prime minister does not rule out the possibility that some matches might have to be played in empty stadiums if the threat level seems too high.
And the security at the stadium is not as big a problem as in the fan zones where mainly private security companies are being hired at an estimated cost of 70 million euros to pat down and check the bags of those fans who want to gather to watch the games free on big screen TV. Those fan zones will be set up like this, large open areas that authorities say could be difficult to secure. Still, French officials say they are going to do their utmost to protect against every possible threat insisting that the best response to terrorism is to carry on with the tournament as planned.
Still, defiance is one thing, taking tough preventative measures is another. Something that will no doubt guarantee that the rehearsals and security gaming will continue right up until the moment the Euro 2016 games begin.
Jim Bittermann, CNN, Paris.
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VAUSE: Now to new threats from Pyongyang after a high level intelligence official defected to South Korea. North Korean state media are warning the army will launch a preemptive consecutive attack against defectors calling them despicable traitors.
For the very latest Paula Hancocks joins us now from Seoul, South Korea.
Paula, just looking at that statement coming out by the North Koreans, is that indicative that maybe this defector is quite a high ranking official? And if that's the case, what kind of intelligence is he expected to give the South Koreans?
PAULA HANCOCKS, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Well, John, it could well be. I mean, if it is, that's a very swift response to someone that a government source told most senior military official known to have defected from North Korea. So certainly that is not the headline that the leader Kim Jong-un wants to be reading. And it would suggest that this -- we are seeing now on state-run media damning those defectors as traitors is in response to that. So it would suggest that this defector could have knowledge that Kim Jong-un simply does not want the South to know.
What we do know from South Korean officials is that he is a senior colonel. He was in the Reconnaissance General Bureau, and he was working in espionage against the South. So you would assume he would have significant information, or at least information that South Korea would find very useful.
We know that this bureau also is involved in intelligence gathering. It's involved in cyberwarfare. It is believed, I should say, not that we know, well, we don't know anything for sure about this kind of thing within North Korea. But this is what the assumption is. Back in 2010 when the Cheonan warship was sunk, killing 46 sailors, South Korea blamed that on the North. At the time South Korean officials said they believe this bureau was behind that. So certainly this could be a treasure trove of information for South Korean intelligence -- John.
VAUSE: On the other hand, though, should we have some degree of skepticism here? There's an election just, what, a few days away there in South Korea. Similar claims have been made about defectors in the past which end up being discredited.
HANCOCKS: We certainly have to take the timing into consideration with just a day away from the general election here in South Korea.
[01:25:05] And certainly the opposition party has criticized this announcement. Also the announcement last week that 13 restaurant workers had defected and also we understand from a government source a diplomat has defected. No more information given on that, though. This is all coming out very -- in very quick succession ,very for close to the election. Rare confirmations from the South Korean side.
Journalists have been asking the South Korean government why now. Is this to try and paint the ruling party, President Park Geun-hye's party in a good light? The government says no. This just happens to have happened at this time. This is why they're announcing it -- John.
VAUSE: OK, Paula. Thank you. Paula Hancocks, live this hour in Seoul with the very latest. Thank you.
Brazil's president Dilma Rousseff is one step closer to impeachment. A congressional committee voted in favor of that on Monday prompting reaction from lawmakers on both sides. Rousseff's presidency has been rocked by a corruption scandal. She's accused of hiding a budget deficit to help win her re-election back in 2014. She denies any wrongdoing, says her opponents are staging a coup. The Lower House of Congress will now debate her impeachment. A final vote expected this coming Sunday.
Still to come here on CNN NEWSROOM, an exclusive. To Taliban fighters were willing to kill and die for ISIS but then they had a change of heart. They're telling CNN why they turned against the terror group.
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VAUSE: Welcome back, everybody. You're watching CNN NEWSROOM live from Los Angeles. I'm John Vause with the headlines this hour. Investigators in Europe are looking into claims that the Paris and Brussels attackers also planning to hit the Euro 2016 --
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[01:30:01] VAUSE,: Welcome back, every. You're watching CNN NEWSROOM live, from Los Angeles. I'm John Vause with the headlines this hour.
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VAUSE: The Taliban say they've just launched a spring offensive in Afghanistan naming it Operation Amahdi. At the same time, ISIS is trying to lure new recruits, with promises of guns, cash or death if they resist.
Two former ISIS commanders are talking exclusively with Nick Paton Walsh about why they turned against the terror group.
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NICK PATON WALSH, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Looking for ISIS. In Afghanistan's east, ISIS' radio broadcast of hate was bombed off air recently by the U.S. But here it's been coming back in the past week.
"It was there three days ago, and it's gone again," says one man. "They were talking nonsense," says another. "They're asking people to pledge allegiance and march on Kabul," he adds.
This is one broadcast they recorded earlier. ISIS is trying to put down roots here. But every day, more Afghans want to tear them up. And that starts here. Two months ago, we wouldn't have sat like this. Then they were commanders in ISIS.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE (through translation): They just like beheadings. Think they are good to do.
PATON WALSH: ISIS, they say, came from Pakistan, not Iraq, and promised guns and money to their struggling group of Taliban. Their agenda, black flags, killing and looting, which they did go along with at first.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE (through translation): They knew who was to take their money. The poor, they would arm to fight for them or kill them.
PATON WALSH: It went south fast. And they both remember the moment when.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE (through translation): I remember when they beheaded seven people in the bazaar, including government workers and Taliban. I saw the long strip of wood they did it on covered in blood. They just threw the bodies away and buried. It was very Islamic.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE (through translation): The worst memory is if you were killed fighting for them they wouldn't hand your wife and children to a relative but put them in a camp.
PATON WALSH: ISIS recruit children here. Their own videos show another reason the two men work with Afghan intelligence who set up our interview, to get other locals to join an uprising program against ISIS. But they say they've lacked government protection and money and that's put potential defectors off. The fight is now left just to American drones, they say.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE (through translation): Drones are doing a good job killing is. They target them as soon as they leave their houses.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE (through translation): The government hasn't made any progress in those areas. It's only the bombing that's effective.
PATON WALSH (voice-over): You were in the Taliban, then in ISIS and now the American drones are bombing your own village but you're pleased about this because it's killing ISIS. Is that a strange feeling for you?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE (through translation): It makes us happy. We want them wiped out.
PATON WALSH: They are killers themselves who know what they're talking about. He holds up his cloak. Holes from an American helicopter attack not long ago when he was Taliban.
ISIS has shattered ordinary lives, too. Across town and in a luxury village built for rich people who never came, are hundreds of families who fled ISIS.
(on camera): Afghanistan, like many nations, basically has to battle an idea that appeals to minds warped after decades of war. They don't see the Taliban as radical enough. An idea that no matter how hard you battle or bomb it, it's difficult to completely extinguish.
(voice-over): Many of their homes are still occupied and much damage is irreversible.
They killed this man's brother and then shot him in the waist as he helped his family escape. He's left unable to provide for them. And ISIS still live in their home.
ISIS savagery was first glimpsed in Afghanistan in this video where they lined up opponents and detonated a bomb below them. The man who speaks is survived by his brother.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE (through translation): My brother called my father to tell him the death was on Facebook. We couldn't bury him if we didn't have a body. Its pieces are probably still lying where it was blown up.
PATON WALSH: Decade of trauma here, yet somehow it gets worse.
Nick Paton Walsh, CNN, Jalalabad.
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[01:35:28] VAUSE: Girls are being kidnapped by Boko Haram and forced to marry their abductors. Then the militants give them a choice, keep living in fear or become suicide bombers. We'll have one girl's harrowing ordeal when we come back.
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VAUSE: In Cameroon's forest, hundreds of young girls are living a nightmare. They've been abducted by Boko Haram and used as sex slaves. Some of them are the girls taken from the school in Nigeria nearly two years ago. Now Boko Haram is trying to turn them into killers.
CNN's David McKenzie talked with one girl who told them the length some are willing to go just to escape.
(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE) DAVID MCKENZIE, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Fahti wears the jewelry given to her by her mother and the wedding dress from her rapist, a terrorist from Boko Haram.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE (through translation): They came to our village with guns and told us they wanted to marry us. We said no. We are too small. So they married us by force.
MCKENZIE: Fahti isn't her real name. We must hide her identity for her safety. She was just 14, and her nightmare was just beginning. Boko Haram took her to a forest but their stronghold was under attack.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE (through translation): The jets dropped bombs and bullets on us in the forest all the time. All of the girls were so frightened. All of them. They always cried. And the men raped us.
MCKENZIE: It was full of abducted girls, she says, many from Chibouk, living the nightmare with her.
[01:40:13] UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE (through translation): Boko Haram leaders would come to us and ask, who wants to do the suicide bomb. And the girls would say me, me, me. They were shouting. They were even fighting to do the suicide bombs.
MCKENZIE: At first, she thought the girls were brainwashed, buying into Boko Haram's brutal jihad.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE (through translation): But it was just because they want to run away from Boko Haram. If they give them a suicide bomb, then maybe they'd meet soldiers and tell them, I have a bomb on me and they'd remove the bomb. Perhaps they can run away.
MCKENZIE: We find Fahti in a refugee camp in far north Cameroon.
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MCKENZIE: As Boko Haram swept through their villages, Nigerians fled here in the thousands. Now the camp is at more than double capacity.
Just beyond those hills is Boko Haram territory. Security officials say the group has infiltrated the camp. Boko Haram often uses abducted children in their attacks. So many here fear young girls the most.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: If they see somebody escape from Boko Haram, they feel they are together with Boko Haram. Boko Haram free you to go and do suicide bombs.
MCKENZIE: Fahti never volunteered. Her captor defected and was captured near the border.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE (through translation): I was free.
MCKENZIE: Now she's reunited with her mother who traveled days to get here. But Fahti says many like her are still held captive, so desperate to flee the forest, they'll volunteer to die so perhaps they can live.
David McKenzie, CNN, Cameroon.
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[01:46:00] VAUSE: Divisive new laws in U.S. states Mississippi and North Carolina are drawing criticism. Opponents of the laws are calling them discriminatory against the LGBT community. Some famous rockers are taking a stand.
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VAUSE: Singer/songwriter, Bryan Adams, canceled a show in Mississippi over that state's new religious freedom law.
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VAUSE: He was following Bruce Springteen's lead after he canceled a concert in North Carolina after their so-called bathroom law.
Bob, is a music writer, and he's also the author of the email and newsletter and blog, Lefsetz Letter. He joins us with more on this.
Bob, thank you for being with us.
These two big names, the Boss, Bryan Adams. Is this just the start? Do you expect other musicians to take a stand?
BOB LEFSETZ, MUSIC WRITER & AUTHOR, THE LEFSETZ LETTER BLOG: The older generation is weighing in. They remember when music stopped the Vietnam War and changed the world. The youngsters have no idea. The music business has completely changed. In the '60s and '70s, if you were aye rock star, you were as rich as anybody. Now the rich ones are techies and financiers. This is a wakeup call from Bruce Springsteen and Bryan Adams saying there are things more important than money. Art has power in a way that money does not have. Interesting thing is it's been tech companies weighing in first. Tech people more than rock stars. They don't care what other people think.
VAUSE: I guess that's the point. Younger musicians aren't taking a stand. It is risky. Remember the Dixie Chicks back in --
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LEFSETZ: That's was complicated. That was country music.
VAUSE: They talked out about the Iraq war and protested George W. Bush.
LEFSETZ: The irony is we have Donald Trump all over the news saying, hey, George Bush the middle did the wrong thing. The middle brother. Actually, I think he's the older brother of Jeb. The Dixie Chicks should have continued to play. They took themselves out of the game. What we learned is being right is more important and pays long-term dividends as opposed to playing the game. This is one of the big problems. Everyone is so nice worrying about alienating people. If you don't have an identity, people can't relate to you and it works against you.
VAUSE: The argument is the state officials are the ones who passed these laws. The only people being hurt right now are the fans. The Springsteen fans and Bryan Adams fans.
LEFSETZ: Further north, they have the law paid back to the right wing about people not having to bake cakes for gay people. We had Tim Cook, who happens to be gay himself, and other tech executives blowing back, and they stopped that. So many people say, oh, Bruce you should have played anyway and just gave a speech. He cleaved society in a minute and brought this issue to a head. So, therefore, people are now discussing it. A lot of these things, like in -- what we have now before Scalia died, we had a Republican dominated court. As a result of the federalist society, which Republicans had for decade. This is not something they did on a whim. This has nothing to do with bathrooms. This is payback to the right wing and what we have --
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VAUSE: Marriage equality?
LEFSETZ: Yes. Musicians say, OK, enough.
VAUSE: You mentioned the country music side of things. And it's tough for them, too, because their audience is, for a large part, conservative in the southern part of the country. The Tennessee Equality Project and Glaad are asking them to speak out as well.
[01:49:57] LEFSETZ: Glaad coming out and country music. It's hard for country music stars to even come out of the closet. So, therefore, to stand up for this. But Nashville is much more liberal than many other parts of Tennessee. What it needs is someone to break the logjam. Who might that be? An interesting article in the paper the other day in the guardian about the NRA's efforts in Nashville. Once there was sunshine put upon this, all the acts pulled back. Someone will break this logjam. Because it's moving. Went from Georgia to North Carolina, Mississippi, Tennessee. Sounds like route 66 or something. Eventually, yes, the country acts -- they don't want to. They are so busy kissing the corporate butt and doing all these things. Music when done right is larger than life, OK? And what we have is these acts so afraid to -- people off that they don't realize they have an identity. Their careers would actually be bigger.
This is only the tip of the iceberg. We have to go to Occupy Wall Street and Ferguson and the musicians were sitting on the sidelines. Now they're in the forefront. Look at Twitter, social networks. The musicians dominate that. Once they get in the game, it's a new game.
VAUSE: That's why they call him the Boss.
Bob, thanks for coming in. It was a great chat.
LEFSETZ: Absolutely. I enjoyed it.
VAUSE: Thank you.
The duke and duchess of Cambridge will soon meet with Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi for lunch, part of their week-long tour of India. On Monday, Prince William and Katherine marked Queen Elizabeth's 90th birthday at a reception in New Delhi.
CNN's Sumnima Udas is there with more on the world trip.
Sumnima, so far so good for the major couple. No major gaffes and mostly a warm welcome.
SUMNIMA UDAS, CNN CORRESPONDENT: No major gaffe, John, but I want to show you what the local nee media has been quite obsessed with. They call it Kate's Maryland moment. A bit of a wardrobe malfunction. There was a windy day. They were laying a wreath honoring the soldiers who died while fighting for the British Empire and what we see is the duchess having a difficult time controlling her dress. But other than that, a very warm welcome, John. There was a lot of questions before they came on to whether Indians even care about the royals anymore given the colonial past. More than 200-year-long rule. British colonial rule in this country. Time of history that most would rather forget when you talk about it. I'll always mention the Bengal famine when more than three million Indians starved to death because a lot of the food grown in that part of the country was sent to feed the British soldiers instead. Not very fond memories of that time but at the same time, judging by how they are being received in Mumbai and also in Delhi, it seems like a lot of that antagonism and resentment is fading or has already faded. And many people, certainly the youth of this country are just looking at this young charming couple for who they are today, young emissaries of the United Kingdom. Looking to build a new kind of relationship with modern India, India of the 21st century, which will be the most populist nation by 2013. Already an economic and cultural powerhouse -- John?
VAUSE: OK. It's all about the business at the end of the day. A lot of comparisons are being made to that very -- the famous photograph as Princess Diana sat out there in front of the Taj Mahal all by herself, Charles nowhere in sight. The young royals will be going to great lengths to make sure they don't re-create a moment like that.
UDAS: Certainly that is going to be the highlight of this trip. The duke and duchess posing for pictures sitting on that same exact Bench is what we've been told where Princess Diana sat back in 1992. In those pictures, Princess Diana looked very lonely and sad and when taking the tour of the Taj Mahal, the monuments of love, she told the tour guide she wished prince Charles was there as well. He was in India at the time but attending to some business meetings in Delhi instead. At that time, most people didn't know that the couple wasn't really getting along and they were already living separately. Ten months after that iconic photo is when the world came to know the couple was separating. The duke and duchess will be taking the same kind of photo, but, obviously, looking to build -- create new memories, really, much happier memories, of course -- John?
[01:55:03] VAUSE: A very different time and a very different couple and a very different relationship they have.
Sumnima, great to speak with you. Thank you.
Two would-be robbers were foiled in an attempted bank heist in Brazil over the weekend. Surveillance video shows them dressed head to toe in aluminum foil. Police believe they were trying to outwit the bank's alarm systems but didn't notice the security cameras. Could have been the voices in their head. Authorities rushed to the building when the suspects were spotted but they were already gone. Police say they left empty handed but the aliens were not talking to them.
Surveillance video shows the suspect after he snuck into a burger restaurant called Five Guys around 3:00 in the morning. Not looking for money but he was a little hungry and casually cooked up a few burgers talking on the cell phone. The video has gone viral. Police are still looking for the crooked cook.
I'm John Vause.
The news continues with Rosemary Church and Errol Barnett right after this. Thanks for watching. See you tomorrow.
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