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[02:00:28] NATALIE ALLEN, CNN INTERNATIONAL ANCHOR: Failed launch. Reports that Pyongyang tried to fire a mid-range missile. We're live in North Korea in a moment.
In Japan, searching for survivors and bracing for aftershocks after a powerful earthquake.
And Clinton versus Sanders. A contentious final debate before the crucial New York presidential primary. It's all ahead here on CNN NEWSROOM. Welcome to our viewers around the world. We're live in Atlanta. I'm Natalie Allen.
And we begin in North Korea. U.S. and South Korean defense officials say the North Koreans attempted to fire a missile from its Eastern Coast on Friday. But that launch failed. South Korean media report that the attempt involved an intermediate range missile. A weapon like that could reach the island of Guam where the U.S. has military bases. CNN is the only U.S. base network in North Korea at the moment.
Will Ripley joins us now live from North Korea's capital, Pyongyang. Hello there, Will.
WILL RIPLEY, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Hi, Natalie. There is still no official announcement from North Korean state media about what the U.S. and South Korea say was a failed mission launch at 5 a.m. Pyongyang this morning. That is not particularly surprising. If the launch had been a success, there likely would have been a major announcement given the fact that this would have occurred on North Korea's most important national holiday. Today is the day of the sun, the birthday of North Korea's founder and President Kim Il-sung. He died more than 20 years ago but still holds the title of eternal president.
And on major holidays such as this, North Korea has in the past timed the major military accomplishments. For example, earlier this year in January when North Korea announced that purported H-bomb test, it was just a couple of days before the birthday of the current Supreme leader, the grandson of the founder, Kim Jong-un. However, given that the launch according to the U.S. and South Korea was not successful, North Koreans on the street may not ever know that this attempt occurred. However, you can certainly bet that North Korea is aggressively trying
to pursue this type of mobile missile technology because it would allow them to launch these ICBMs, these missiles that could potentially carry a nuclear warhead from anywhere in the country. It's the type of technology that's much more difficult for spy satellites to track, which is why this development is so concerning in South Korea and the United States and around the region, including Japan as well, Natalie.
ALLEN: And do we know what kind of missile specifically this was?
RIPLEY: You mentioned the South Korean media reports that this may have been the Musudan missile, which could reach as far as Guam where the U.S. has military bases. There were also some U.S. Intelligence analysts thinking that they might try to launch potentially a KN-08 or a newer version of that, the KN-14 that was supposedly shown for the first time in public at the military parade back in October that we attended and we took pictures of at that time.
However, again, because there is no official confirmation of this from the North Korean government, all of this is based on intelligence and satellite imagery. It's very opaque, and there certainly isn't much transparency from North Korea in terms of what military technology it possesses aside from the parades that they hold from time to time which is an attempt to basically show the world what military hardware they possess. But make no mistake.
North Korea in spite of these heightened sanctions and the potential for economic hardships as a result, they are pushing forward with not only their missile programs but also their nuclear program as well and many North Korea watchers would not be surprised if there were more nuclear tests in the coming months and certainly another attempt to perfect this mobile missile launch technology because a successful launch, if it does occur, would be unprecedented and would certainly change the game in many ways for the United States and its allies in this region.
RIPLEY: Thank you, Will Ripley in the capital. I'll be talking to an analyst about the situation coming up here this hour. Thank you, Will.
ALLEN: Well, we turn to the U.S. presidential race and the slugfest in the CNN Democratic debate Thursday night just a few hours ago in New York. Until recently, Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders had been mostly cordial, but the gloves came off this time. The candidates tore into each other over qualifications, judgment, and policies. Even the crowd was riled up. They cheered, hissed, and booed at times the candidates.
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SEN. BERNIE SANDERS (I-VT), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: Does Secretary Clinton have the experience and the intelligence to be a president? Of course she does.
(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE) But I do question her judgment. I question a judgment which voted for the war in Iraq --
(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)
The worst foreign policy blunder in the history of this country.
[02:05:30] HILLARY CLINTON (D), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: If you go and read what I hoped all of you will before Tuesday, Senator Sanders' long interview with "The New York Daily News," talk about judgment and talk about the kinds of problems he had answering questions about even his core issue, breaking up the banks. When asked, he could not explain how that would be done.
SANDERS: Do we really feel confident about a candidate saying that she's going to break change in America when she is so dependent on big money interest? I don't think so.
CLINTON: This is a serious difference between us, and what I want to start by saying -- it's not a laughing matter. Ninety people on average a day are killed or commit suicide or die in accidents from guns. Thirty three thousand people a year. I take it really seriously.
SANDERS: I am sure a lot of people are very surprised to learn that you supported raising the minimum wage to 15 bucks an hour.
(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)
CLINTON: You know, wait a minute. Wait, wait. Come on, I have stood on the debate stage with Senator Sanders eight prior times.
SANDERS: Excuse me.
CLINTON: I have said the exact same thing.
WOLF BLITZER, CNN ANCHOR: Well, Secretary, Senator, please.
CLINTON: If we can raise it in --
BLITZER: Secretary, Secretary --
CLINTON: -- New York or Los Angeles or Seattle, let's do it.
BLITZER: Secretary, the viewers -- if you're both screaming at each other, the viewers won't be able to here either of you.
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ALLEN: Now, it's Larry Sabato, he is the director of the Center for Politics at the University of Virginia.
Thanks for being with us. Let's talk another debate here. It always seems that they have the same energy. Bernie is the guy who is all riled up, always has that finger up ready to dispute anything she says. And Hillary is just the, you know, stay the course, make my point, and let him get riled up. What did you think?
LARRY SABATO, DIRECTOR, UVA CENTER FOR POLITICS: Well, you know, this was the ninth debate between Clinton and Sanders, and I have to say it was by far the liveliest. You can tell that the resentments have been building up on both sides, and they let it all hang out. This was their most negative debate. They attacked one another from the very first minute. And while I don't think it changed many votes because we've heard all these arguments, I think it might well have stimulated turnout for the New York primary.
ALLEN: Ah, okay. So did you think either of them in their negativity had the edge?
SABATO: I didn't detect any major gaffe, which is about the only way at this late stage you're going to shift a lot of votes, and you might not even be able to do it with a gaffe. So I think we're beyond the stage where there are clear winners of the debate. They both made their points. They were cheered lustily by their sections in the audience. And I don't think it changed all that much. But they did make a clear case for their candidacies and that helps voters and probably made a lot of voters decide to vote next Tuesday.
ALLEN: I want to talk about the New York voters. Are there any particular issues that either one of the candidates used that would resonate to New Yorkers?
SABATO: You can tell that they know the issues that play in New York. On Hillary Clinton's side, she went after Bernie Sanders, as she has so many times, for gun control or the lack of support for it. And Bernie Sanders went after Hillary Clinton, as he has done so many times, on her relationship with Goldman Sachs and the money she took for a speech to Goldman Sachs. A lot of this, as I say, we've heard before. But there was a special edge to it tonight. They have developed, as candidates often do, an intense dislike for one another.
ALLEN: Yes. They're having a fight to the finish here, it seems. She would probably counter that. But what about the fact that Hillary brought up Donald Trump? She took that turn a few times.
SABATO: Clinton believes and her camp believes that she is the inevitable nominee and she does have the math behind her. It's hard to see how Sanders catches up in delegates, pledged or unpledged, by the convention. So she wants to turn toward the general election. I was surprised she did not include Ted Cruz in those attacks because after all, he's the alternate nominee. It may be Trump. It may be Cruz. She didn't really touch him. But she decided to tell Democrats she's already focusing on November.
[02:10:12] ALLEN: Larry Sabato, we'll talk again. OK? We'll have a chance to, I'm sure. Thanks so much.
SABATO: Thank you, Natalie.
ALLEN: Well, now to Southern Japan where rescue crews are working to find people trapped after a strong earthquake and dozens of aftershocks sent buildings tumbling. Disaster management officials say at least nine people were killed in Kumamoto Prefecture in the magnitude 6.2 quake. Nearly 800 people were injured. Fifty of them severely. Aftershocks are expected to continue in Japan.
For more on the deadly quake, let's go to a journalist Mike Firn, he joins us live from Tokyo. Hi there, Mike, what's the latest on the search for people who still maybe trapped?
MIKE FIRN, JOURNALIST: Well, Natalie, there are concerns that heavy rains which have been forecast for the weekend along with continued aftershocks are going to hamper the rescue efforts. The prime minister, Shinzo Abe telling parliament this is a race against time. He says he will add more people to the 3,000 self-defense force members and emergency workers involved in the search and rescue operation. We do have nearly 800 injured in collapsing homes and fires. Fifteen thousand people being evacuated and being told not to return to their homes if they're damaged.
We also have local rail services suspended, the Shinkansen Bullet train suspended. Local roads closed, and automakers in the region have shuttered their factories for the time being as they judge the effect on operations. Now, in terms of nuclear power plants, there are two on the Island of Kyushu. One operational. The Sendai plant. And no reports of any abnormalities. But obviously this does raise concern after the Fukushima meltdown in 2011 after the earthquake and tsunami then. A politics professor Michael Kutsik (ph) telling me that this comes at a sweet spot for the opponents of the nuclear restart, coming as it does just before the summer upper house elections -- Natalie.
ALLEN: All right. Mike, thank you. We know that these aftershocks could last for weeks, if not months as well. Thank you so much for your report for us.
Meteorologist Derek Van Dam is keeping track of the aftershocks from the quake, and he joins me now. Yes, Mike had said earlier, Derek, that it could be a year of aftershocks. That would be a horror.
DEREK VAN DAM, AMS METEOROLOGIST: Of course the severity of the aftershocks diminishes as we go out in time, Natalie, but nonetheless this is exactly what we would expect with this size of an earthquake. We've already had roughly 100 aftershocks according to the Japan Meteorological Agency. And taken to consideration, all of the structures that have been compromised from the initial magnitude 6.2 earthquake. So, any further aftershocks could bring down buildings going forward within the next days and weeks to come.
Take a look at this, we have several different ways that earthquakes occur in this part of the world. We have the fault lines. It's all about tectonic plates. If they separate, we almost get this abduction that can cause an earthquake. We also have the reverse of that, where two fault lines converge on each other, actually thrusting the earth upwards. But in this particular instance in Southern Japan, this is what took place. We had what is called a strike-slip fault. This is when the fault line actually runs parallel with each other, sending ripples of energy across the surface of the earth. Now, it's all about the depth of the earthquake. This one was
relatively shallow, roughly 10 kilometers below the surface of the earth. And if you coincide this and combine this with a highly populated area like this part of Southern Japan, that causes disaster. And unfortunately the fatalities that we've seen. This is from the U.S. geological survey. What you're looking at here is the amount of people that actually felt strong to severe shaking, and those little tube-like features, think of these as tall buildings. They're actually one square kilometer. And the higher those buildings or the higher those tube structures, it indicates the higher population density that felt the strong to severe shaking. And in fact, they estimate that roughly half a million to upwards of a million people felt severe shaking from this particular earthquake -- Natalie.
ALLEN: All right. Thanks very much, Derek.
But China's economy is chugging along, with the latest numbers show the expansion may be losing steam. That's ahead here.
Plus, the U.S. Secretary of State condemns a Russian fly-by in the Baltic Sea. Why he says it could have been a shoot-down?
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[02:17:02] RHIANNON JONES, CNN WORLD SPORTS ANCHOR: Hi, I'm Rhiannon Jones with your CNN World Sports headlines. There's been another famous European night on -- as Liverpool completed a stunning comeback to defeat Borussia Dortmund in the quarter finals of Europa League. Remembering the victims of held far outweighing the importance of the match, but what a game it was trailing three-one on the night within a little over half an hour to play, Liverpool scored the three goals they needed to knock out yet and talks former club -- with the winner in injury time.
At the Monte Carlo masters, Roger Federer had no difficulty at guessing (INAUDIBLE). But the same could not be said for Andy Murray. The second seed had to fight back to 16 seed then walked back. He dropped the first set and then risked losing the second before equaling the score at a set apiece. The match was five-in-four in the final set but Murray dug deep and brought back to compete as Tuesday's -- victory.
Good news. Fernando Alonso unless as though he will be allowed to return to formula one competition at the Chinese Grand Prix. The double world champion have been provisionally cleared to race. That's subject to further tests after official practice on Friday. Alonso was left in cuff and fractured a rib in a spectacular crash at the season opener in Australia in March. That's a look at your sports headlines. I'm Rhiannon Jones.
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ALLEN: And welcome back to CNN NEWSROOM. Secretary of State John Kerry says the U.S. could have shot down Russian warplanes that buzzed a navy destroyer in the Baltic Sea. It happened on Tuesday as one of the jets came within about 23 meters of the USS Donald Cook. Kerry says the U.S. has told Russia how dangerous this is.
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JOHN KERRY, U.S. SECRETARY OF STATE: It is reckless. It is provocative. It is dangerous. It is unprofessional and under the rules of engagement, that could have been a shoot-down. So people need to understand that this is serious business, and the United States is not going to be intimidated in the high seas with respect to our freedom of navigation.
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[02:19:37] ALLEN: Russia says the jets were not armed and acted in accordance with international rules.
Pope Francis is heading to Greece on Saturday to meet with migrants. He'll be on the Island of Lesbos. That's where many migrants land on their way to Northern Europe after fleeing Syria's bloody civil war. Hala Gorani visited one camp where their ordeal is far from over.
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HALA GORANI, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): For Uma Abdelberi (ph), the choice was simple. Stay in Syria and die or flee. She chose life. And after months of run, ended up here with her two daughters at the Kara Tepe camp on the Greek Island of Lesbos.
Her husband and two sons, she tells us, fled Syria seven months earlier and are already in Germany.
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My husband says if it was up to me, I'd bring you here right away. But you have to wait for permission from European officials, she tells me. I'm not hear for a handout, but I want to see my children. I haven't seen my seven-year-old son in seven months. Her temporary home, a basic UNHCR prefab. No running water, no power. Uma Abdelberi's family remained divided while she waits on her asylum application. She's told it could take months. A story that mirrors many at this Kara Tepe, a camp, designed to welcome the more vulnerable refugees, women and children or the badly injured.
(on camera): But it's a very different situation here at the other camp on the island called Moria. It is closed. It's very controlled. There's even riot police parked outside. We've even been told we're not allowed to film the front gates.
(voice-over): When asked why we didn't have access, officials wouldn't give us a reason. Here the walls surrounding the Moria camp have been freshly painted white in anticipation of Pope Francis's visit to Lesbos on Saturday. Elsewhere on the island, gone are the scenes of mass exodus and desperation of just a few months ago. Now refugees remain confined to enclosed camps, and the migrants and refugees who have managed to travel farther are stuck at closed borders between Greece and Macedonia. For families in limbo, here, waiting, is now all they can do. (END VIDEOTAPE)
ALLEN: We continue to follow developing news from North Korea. U.S. officials say the North Korean regime tried to fire a missile from its Eastern Coast on Friday but that launch famed. South Korean media report that the attempt involved an intermediate range missile. A weapon like that could reach the Island of Guam where the U.S. has military bases.
Let's talk with Jasper Kim. He's the director for the Center of Conflict Management at Ewha University in South Korea. He joins me from Seoul. Thank you for joining us.
JASPER KIM, DIRECTOR, CENTER OF CONFLICT AT SOUTH KOREA EWHA UNIVERSITY: Thank you.
ALLEN: We've seen quite a steady stream of missile tests, and even though this failed, there can't be much comfort there because North Koreans keep learning with each test. What's behind this almost outpouring of launches, do you think?
KIM: Well, I think Kim Jong-un, the leader of North Korea is fairly young. He's trying to iterate and iterate again to basically create some technology that will convert things to things that will be tangible at the negotiation table. Its main audience right now with these missile launches are primarily international, and of that, primarily the United States and South Korea. We're in the waning days of the Obama administration, and so it's a small, closing window of opportunity. And I think Kim Jong-un wants to seize upon that. But basically I thing Kim Jong-un, he wants to weaponize every asset, and for all the people who are in there, who are not North Koreans, he wants to use those people as collateral. So it's a very unpredictable and precarious time in the Korean Peninsula.
ALLEN: Absolutely. What part of this might be a show by North Korea that sanctions passed recently will not stop their pursuits?
KIM: Well, I think there's been a recent study by the Korea development institute, KDI, which demonstrates that sanctions really have had little effect on North Korea. And primarily that's because believe it or not the North Korean economy has in the 2000s grown. It hasn't decreased at all. So, what sanctions are doing may have some negative effect, but if you net it all out, it doesn't have that much negative effect on the Korean economy. So, that bolters North Korea, it bolsters its military, and you see it in these missile launches and tests.
[02:24:32] ALLEN: Is there any other approach, Jasper? The U.S. has said it has no interest in dialogue. What about South Koreans? Do they want talks?
KIM: Well, I think certainly element of South Korea definitely wants talks because it wants to mitigate risk, risk of a third Korean war on the Peninsula. But I think instead of bombs, a better solution, or even better than sanctions is to make it so that it's just too costly for North Korea to create disorder and chaos in the Korean Peninsula. It needs to grow its economy even more. And I think if we utilize its financial system, it's anemic right now. But if we get it involved through the use of things like development impact bonds, through the use of integrating North Korea into international financial markets, bolstering businesses, it would just be too costly for North Korea to enter into provocations. I think that should be the alternative mechanism to seek peace in the Korean Peninsula, not through bombs and sanctions.
ALLEN: Jasper Kim, we thank you for joining us. We appreciate your analysis. Thanks.
Wall Street was front and center at the Democratic debate. Next here, how both candidates are attacking the banks and monetary recklessness.
Also a mass mailing from the British government is stirring up controversy over the country's economic future.
And they say cities can be concrete jungles. Coming up, how this chimpanzee made the most of his free time on the lam in Japan.
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[02:29:15] ALLEN: You're watching CNN NEWSROOM. I'm Natalie Allen. China's economy is still growing, just not as fast as it had been. The government says the gross domestic product grew at an annualized rate of 6.7 percent in the first quarter of this year. That's right in line with expectations. But it is the weakest rate of growth since the financial crisis in early 2009.
Here to break it down for us, "CNN MONEY'S" Asia Pacific editor Andrew Stevens. So what are we looking at with this, Andrew?
ANDREW STEVENS, ASIA PACIFIC EDITOR, "CNN MONEY": Well, I think the headline here Natalie is, if you cast your mind back to early January, the global market, the global investment community were panicking about what was going on with the China economy.
[02:30:00] The stock markets in China were roiling the markets worldwide. There was real concerns about what was happening in the currency markets in China.
Were they devaluing because they were facing a massive, massive fall- off in economic activity?
I think what this number shows us today, yes, it's weak, it's down to the 70 or lower so but it shows an economy that it is not about to fall off a cliff. There is no, quote, "hard landing" that is happening in the Chinese economy. So that really is a sigh of relief. It shows, and particularly if you drill down in the numbers a little bit deeper, it shows that in March particularly there was a little bit of a pick-up in activity. So it's all sort of pointing towards the right sort of direction.
The reason this is happening, though, is because the Chinese government has been stimulating the economy. Remember, it's cut interest rates some six times since late 2014. It's cut the amount of reserves the banks have to keep at the central bank.
So basically it's funneling a large amount of money out into the system for people to borrow. So it's encouraging borrowing, encouraging spending and that is why we're seeing this number.
Bang in line, as I say, with expectations. Remember, the government said between 6.5 percent and 7 percent growth this year is the target.
Guess what, we're at 6.7.
NATALIE ALLEN, CNN ANCHOR: How about that. And you say that this points in the right direction.
So, Andrew, does this mean that the Chinese economy is looking more stable in the long term?
STEVENS: Yes, that's a good question. And the answer at this stage is no because what we're seeing is the sort of stimulus and a lot of the stimulus and a lot of emphasis on growth, on keeping the economy growing rather than reforming the economy.
And reform is what it's all about in China if it's to break this cycle of relying heavily on exports and investment and moving to a more sort of balanced economy where Chinese citizens are spending more money. The consumerism is a much more important cog in the economic engine.
So we're not seeing that at the moment because the government is still stimulating. What has to happen is there has to be a lot of these big state-owned enterprises.
For example, zombie companies, they're called, where basically they're just a drain. They're producing stuff that nobody wants. They're employing people in sort of dead-end jobs. These sort of companies need to be closed up. That's a political decision. That's tough.
And at the moment, we're not really seeing a will by the Chinese to really go in big-time for these reforms. The reforms that are needed to actually turn this economy around, to make it more sustainable, to give that long-term sustainability, Beijing talks about all the time, Natalie, but as yet is still really not biting the bullet on.
ALLEN: All right. We'll wait and see if there's more than talk ahead this year. Thank you so much, our Asia Pacific editor, Andrew Stevens, for us.
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ALLEN: Back to the race for the White House and the Democratic debate the New York "Daily News" is calling a Brooklyn brawl. Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders clashed over those too-big-to-fail banks, which were bailed out during the financial crisis.
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HILLARY CLINTON, FORMER SECRETARY OF STATE, PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: It's always important. It may be inconvenient but it's always important to get the facts straight. I stood up against the behaviors of the banks when I was a senator. I called them out on their mortgage behavior.
I also was very willing to speak out against some of the special privileges they had under the tax code. When I went to the secretary of state office, the president, President Obama, led the effort to pass the Dodd-Frank bill. That is the law.
SEN. BERNIE SANDERS (I), VT., PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: Secretary Clinton called them out. Oh, my goodness. They must have been really crushed by this.
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SANDERS: And was that before or after you received huge sums of money by giving speaking engagements (INAUDIBLE)?
So they must have been very, very upset by what you did.
These banks, in my view, have too much power. They have shown themselves to be fraudulent organizations, endangering the well-being of our economy. If elected president, I will break them up. We've got legislation to do that. End of discussion.
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ALLEN: Well, our Phil Mattingly has more on the candidates' attacks on Wall Street and big money.
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SANDERS: Yes, we can change the status quo.
PHIL MATTINGLY, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Wall Street.
SANDERS: If you want a candidate who is prepared to stand up to big money interests, to take on the greed of corporate America --
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SANDERS: -- the fraud of Wall Street, if you want that candidate, we need your help.
MATTINGLY (voice-over): A lightning rod in the Democratic race as it settles on the home turf of America's largest banks.
CLINTON: I will appoint regulators who have be as tough and smart as they can be when it comes to dealing with the financial industry.
MATTINGLY (voice-over): For Bernie Sanders, it's the very core of his campaign. He's unleashed relentless attacks on Hillary Clinton for her ties to Wall Street, for more than $30 million in industry campaign donations to her campaign and super PAC, to accepting nearly $2 million in speaking fees from the largest banks, all attacked on the stump. SANDERS: We have shown the world that you can run a winning national campaign without being dependent on Wall Street and the big money interest.
MATTINGLY (voice-over): And on TV.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE (voice-over): How does Wall Street get away with it?
Millions in campaign contributions and speaking fees. Our economy works for Wall Street because it's rigged by Wall Street.
MATTINGLY (voice-over): Hillary Clinton firing back.
CLINTON: Name anything they've influenced me on. Just name one thing.
MATTINGLY (voice-over): And citing her record of reform.
CLINTON: I have the best policy toward dealing with what needs to happen to prevent Wall Street from ever wrecking Main Street again.
He's had trouble answering questions about his core issue, namely dealing with the banks.
MATTINGLY (voice-over): Bolstered by a Sanders interview with the New York "Daily News" that appeared to confirm her campaign's central attack line. Big ideas like breaking up the banks, but stuck on the basics and details of actually getting it done.
SANDERS: How do you go about doing it?
How you go about doing it is having legislation passed and giving the authority to the Secretary of the Treasury to determine under Dodd- Frank that these banks are a danger to the economy under the problem of too big to fail?
QUESTION: But do you think that the Fed now has that authority?
SANDERS: Well, I don't know if the Fed has it.
MATTINGLY (voice-over): Sanders defending his plan, pointing out he's been calling for a break up of the largest banks for years.
SANDERS: Now, I understand that Wall Street and Goldman Sachs may not like it. Tough luck.
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ALLEN: Well, if you missed the Democratic debate in Brooklyn, we will have a special hour-long highlight show coming up in a few hours. That's 7:00 pm in Hong Kong. You can watch it at noon in London.
Iraq is often in the news but not for this.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: (Speaking foreign language).
ALLEN (voice-over): You can hear surprised voices there reacting to a rare tornado. It struck near an oil refinery in the southeast of the country. That's the source of the fireball there.
The tornado caused minor damage but no casualties. Storms had been pounding the region all week and you can clearly see in a barren oil field that tornado from top to bottom.
Ominous looking.
Next here on CNN, protesters calling for Nigeria to do more to find hundreds of girls kidnapped two years ago from their school.
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ALLEN: In Nigeria, there is sadness and, at the same time, a little hope for hundreds of schoolgirls kidnapped two years ago by Boko Haram gunmen. No one really knows if they're alive. But this newly obtained video indicates at least 15 of the girls could be.
One of the founders of the #BringBackOurGirls campaign spoke earlier to my colleague, Isha Sesay, about this video. She says it provides a glimmer of hope but she wants world leaders to do more to help find the girls. Here's more from that conversation.
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ISHA SESAY, CNN HOST: You've had a little time to reflect on this proof of life video obtained by CNN.
Can you put into words how you're feeling right now?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I feel a sense of hope, hope renewal in the sense that this is the closest that we have seen of any evidence that our Chibok girls are still there, out there somewhere. We don't in any way assume the authenticity of this video in its entirety. At the same time, we don't dismiss anything about this video.
SESAY: The 219 girls missing, the video only shows 15 of them. I've got to ask you about the feeling amongst the other parents.
What are they saying to you?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Even the ones whose daughters were not amongst the 15 looked at that video and said it renewed their hope that their daughters must be somewhere. And what they want the government to do is to just use every means possible to establish linkages that would support the rescue of the (INAUDIBLE).
By seeing this video, we're able to say every lead that enables us, gets us close, credible information, credible intelligence as possible, must not be discarded.
Our government and the support that the rest that the world can offer, countries with superior intelligence capabilities, like the United States, the United Kingdom, Canada and the rest of them should combine in solving the mystery of the whereabouts of our girls and then inform a very critical decision as to which lowest cost, lowest risk option for their rescue.
SESAY: What is your message to the international --
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SESAY: -- community and the world on the second anniversary of the girls' abduction?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The best kind of advocacy for (INAUDIBLE) to go to school is to show by our actions as world leaders that we have the back of every girl, whether in Europe or in America or in Chibok that would there to go receive education as a (INAUDIBLE) for improved life opportunities.
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ALLEN: An outpouring of support for parents of the Chibok girls is pouring in from around the world, including from girls rights' activist and Nobel Peace Prize winner Malala Yousafzai.
She wrote an open letter to the parents of the girls, which reads in part, "I call on President Buhari of Nigeria and everyone who can help rescue the Chibok girls to act now.
"Would a president give up the fight for his own daughters?
"These girls are just as precious to their families."
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ALLEN: Microsoft has filed a landmark privacy lawsuit against the U.S. Justice Department. The tech giant accuses the government of looking through its customers' data and forcing the company to keep quiet about it. At issue, a 1986 law. It lets authorities forbid companies from
telling customers if their computer data has been searched. Microsoft claims its constitutional right to speak to its customers and their right to be informed have been violated.
British voters will decide this June whether to stay in the European Union. The campaign officially kicks off Friday. But it's already mired in controversy, thanks to an expensive mailer from the British government. International diplomatic editor Nic Robertson is following this one for us.
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NIC ROBERTSON, CNN INTERNATIONAL DIPLOMATIC EDITOR: Here it is, the new government handbook on why British people should vote to stay in the European Union: the Brexit battle, the future of the U.K. in Europe is just beginning to heat up. Two months to voting.
Have you read this yet?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: No.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: (INAUDIBLE).
ROBERTSON: Have you read this yet?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: No.
ROBERTSON: Are you going to read it?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: If I had a copy of it, I would read it.
ROBERTSON: Have you read this from the government yet?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yes, we have.
ROBERTSON (voice-over): Polls have the In and Out campaigns more or less neck-and-neck, with the Outs edging ahead. But so close to such a momentous event, there is confusion.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I think people are confused because the arguments about numbers and immigration and what have you are very technical. Then you turn on the radio and you hear about fishing quotas or trade tariffs. Ordinary voters have no idea what this means and whether it's good or whether it's bad.
ROBERTSON (voice-over): As Churchill might have said, never before in the field of referendums have so many known so little about something so important.
ROBERTSON: Undecided.
Why is that?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Undecided because basically there's not enough information out there for me to actually make up my mind. And there's just too much fearmongering.
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ROBERTSON (voice-over): Confusing. And now they're asking me for help.
ROBERTSON: Do I think it will help?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yes.
(INAUDIBLE)?
ROBERTSON: Let's read it and have a look. It tells you which day, the 23rd.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: That's fine.
ROBERTSON: Yes, OK. Over 3 million U.K. jobs are linked to exports in the E.U.
Do you believe this stuff when you read it?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Well, it depends.
Is it evidence-based?
Where is the evidence from?
ROBERTSON (voice-over): They're not the only ones doubting the government.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Government says about how many jobs the U.K. Is dependent on.
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ROBERTSON: Three million.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes, but I mean the assumption is that all those jobs would go lost if we leave the E.U. and that's rubbish because we would renegotiate the deal.
ROBERTSON: When will you make your mind up?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Probably when I have more information from the other side.
ROBERTSON (voice-over): The other side, that's flamboyant London mayor Boris Johnson. When he came out for the Outs, he was promptly pummeled for playing politics, a gamble, his critics said, to get Cameron's job, prime minister.
For his part, the PM says even if he loses, he'll stay on to negotiate the exit. The drama is building.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Boy, the biggest decision that British voters are going to take for a generation. The last referendum was in 1975, so unless you're nearing pensioner age, you actually haven't had a chance to vote on Britain's membership.
ROBERTSON (voice-over): For some we found, that day can't come soon enough.
ROBERTSON: Have you read this?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Obviously, yes. I'm a firm believer that we should get out of the E.U.
ROBERTSON: And why's that?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Why?
Because we're paying far too much money for far too much bureaucracy that we don't need.
ROBERTSON (voice-over): It won't be the last word. That's for sure -- Nic Robertson, CNN, London.
Thank you.
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ALLEN: Well, finally this hour, it could be a scene straight out of "King Kong." A chimpanzee from a Japanese zoo made a daring escape, climbing atop power lines as the scene unfolded on live TV. Here's CNN's Jeanne Moos with the story.
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JEANNE MOOS, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): If you didn't know better, you'd think he was working for the utilities.
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MOOS (voice-over): A 24-year-old chimp named Cha-Cha escaped from a Japanese zoo. It was about 1:20 in the afternoon when a zoo staffer noticed that the chimp was missing from his cage.
Uh-oh.
He ended up literally hanging out in a residential neighborhood. That's no mere yawn. It's a sign of aggression as authorities prepare to take aim on a cherry picker.
Brace yourself for this next shot: a tranquilizer shot at the chimp.
Cha-Cha lunged at the man and pulled the dart out of his back as the sedative took effect. Cha-Cha started to lose his grip. He fell once, managed to cling with his fist, then fell again.
Rescuers below --
[02:55:00] MOOS (voice-over): -- tried to catch him using sheets of plastic and a net, which he mostly missed.
The chimp was loaded into an animal ambulance. The zoo says he wasn't injured.
MOOS: It was hard not to be reminded of another sympathetic primate on the loose.
MOOS (voice-over): Who could forget King Kong, making a last stand atop the Empire State Building?
But these were bullets, not tranquilizer darts. It was curtains for King Kong but Cha-Cha the chimp lived to cha-cha again -- Jeanne Moos, CNN, New York.
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ALLEN: Maybe Cha-Cha doesn't want to live at the zoo. Maybe there could be options.
I'm Natalie Allen. Thanks for watching another hour of CNN NEWSROOM. Our top stories are right after this short break.
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CLINTON: You know, we are in vigorous agreement here, senator.
ALLEN (voice-over): More like vigorous disagreement: the Democratic candidates go on the attack in Brooklyn as the New York primary nears.
