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Trump Holds Events in New York; Cruz Campaigns in Maryland; New York Primary Tomorrow. Aired 12-12:30p ET
Aired April 18, 2016 - 12:00 ET
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[12:00:07] ASHLEIGH BANFIELD, CNN ANCHOR: Hello, everyone. I'm Ashleigh Banfield. And welcome to LEGAL VIEW.
We are in the countdown to tomorrow's New York primary. A whopping 247 delegates at stake for the Dems, 95 at stake for the Republicans. And you can see on the map, all five candidates are pretty busy hopscotching around, campaigning in Syracuse, Buffalo, Schenectady - it's just fun to say it - Long Island City and, of course, New York City.
In fact, this hour, the National Diversity Coalition for Trump is holding a meeting at Trump Tower in New York City. And a short time ago, Mr. Trump himself spoke briefly to the reporters who were all congregated outside while he was getting into the old elevator.
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DONALD TRUMP (R), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: Thank you, everybody, for coming. This is so great. This is some turnout, huh? Thank you very much.
QUESTION: Do you see all the women?
TRUMP: Wow!
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BANFIELD: Yes, that is Omarosa to the right of him. This is the diversity council. She's a part of it. We're going to bring these comments to you live in just a moment. But in the meantime, diversity and Trump's appeal to minorities or some would say serious lack thereof should be something the campaign is paying close attention to because there is a new NBC/"Wall Street Journal" poll that's out and 65 percent of registered voters overall said that they have an unfavorable view of Donald Trump. It is even worse when you talk about how minorities feel. Eighty-eight percent of black voters do not think highly of Donald Trump and that compares to 79 percent of Latinos. Among women, 69 percent. Critical numbers if you want to win the nomination.
Jason Carroll joins me live now. He is at Trump Tower. And you were at that scrum watching what was going on as Donald Trump was going into the meeting. Walk me through the meeting. What exactly is it? JASON CARROLL, CNN NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Well, look, it's clear that
he has a number of supporters here and this coalition that is gathered are a number of conservative people of color, women as well, who support Donald Trump. The executive director is saying that what he wants to do is dispel this notion that's out there that the campaign is sexist and racist. That's a notion that, as you know, Ashleigh, even some of Trump's former contestants from "The Apprentice" came out last week and criticized the campaign for just that. But as you say, we've seen Omarosa here, a former contestant from "The Apprentice," also a sometime Trump surrogate who was here to support him as well.
He's going to have a meeting with this group. We're waiting to see what will comes out of that meeting, if he'll have any comments at all about trying to reach out to communities of color. Also trying to see if he's going to have more to say on this whole issue of awarding delegates. As you know, he's been very critical of this issue, basically at war with the RNC over the issue. He had much to say about it last night at a rally in Poughkeepsie.
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TRUMP: You have a system that's rigged. We have a system that's crooked. We have a system that's got a lot of problems. And we have a system that doesn't allow the people to vote, in many cases. And if they do vote, their vote isn't really representative of what it should be. We have this delegate system which is a sham. So in Colorado, the people are going crazy out there because they never got a chance to vote.
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CARROLL: And so back to this National Diversity Coalition for Trump. That meeting that's supposed to be taking place just at about noon and then hopefully we'll have some comments from Donald Trump following that. I spoke to several members, Ashleigh, of the coalition inside there, the lobby. One African-American woman telling me that she does not believe the Trump campaign is racist, that the Trump campaign is sexist. She believes that he is the best candidate with the best voice, she said. She also acknowledged that she believes that he is growing as a candidate. She also believes that it is important at this point to have a candidate who is outside the establishment.
Ashleigh.
BANFIELD: All right, Jason Carroll, thank you. Look forward to the comments when they happen after. The full round-up of all the comments. Thank you for that.
In roughly an hour and a half from now, Ted Cruz has a plan to speak at a rally in Towson, Maryland. The primary there not this Tuesday but next Tuesday and 38 delegates are at stake, not 95, which are at stake tomorrow. Which is why I'm going to ask Sunlen Serfaty the following question about Cruz's campaign.
Why is he not in New York? What is going on? SUNLEN SERFATY, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, Senator Cruz, Ashleigh, is
clearly already trying to look ahead, look beyond New York, focusing, as you said, in states like Maryland today, in Pennsylvania tomorrow, both states that don't vote until next Tuesday, April 26th.
Certainly the Cruz campaign is already downplaying their expectations for what they think will happen tomorrow in New York. Senator Cruz himself has started to say that Donald Trump looks very strong in New York. It looks, he says, likely that Donald Trump will fare well in tomorrow's primary. Also at the same time really trying to raise the bar for how he thinks Donald Trump should do tomorrow in the New York primary, saying that unless he does - wins over 50 percent, it would be a devastating loss for him. So trying to deflect attention away from what the Cruz campaign obviously believes that they are not going to win New York tomorrow.
[12:05:21] But also Senator Cruz is making small shifts as well. A little bit more bullish. A little more open on the chances of this race moving towards a contested convention, saying that looks like, in his opinion, the likelihood of that happening. Here's what he had to say this morning.
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SEN. TED CRUZ (R), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: In all likelihood, we're going to go into a contested convention, which means nobody has the majority. And I'll have a ton of delegates. He'll have a ton of delegates. And it's going to be a battle in Cleveland to see who can get to a majority. You can't get the nomination without earning a majority of the delegates elected by the people. And I believe Donald's highest total will be on that first ballot and he will go steadily down because Donald cannot win and we don't want to nominate someone who's a loser in November.
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SERFATY: So there you saw Senator Cruz outright almost call Donald Trump a loser. Really cutting into the core message and the branding around Donald Trump's campaign that he's a winner. So that will be interesting to watch that sort of branding that Senator Cruz has going forward.
Ashleigh.
BANFIELD: I have heard that loser comment all too often in this campaign. Can you tell me if I pronounced Towson wrong? Is it Towson or Towson?
SERFATY: Towson - Towson University, yes.
BANFIELD: Thank you, because you know what, I had a total brain blip on that one and it is unfair to the people there if I - if I said it wrong. So, thank you, Sunlen, we'll check in with you throughout the day. Appreciate it.
OK, in Ted Cruz's town hall on ABC's "Good Morning America," he also hit hard on Trump's tax policies, among other things, on this tax day. Have a listen.
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SEN. TED CRUZ (R), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: So Donald's calculator is missing a few keys. He's always interesting to watch. He's a fun entertainer. But Donald has no real solutions. How do you bring jobs back to America? Donald has no idea. He has no proposals. No substance. On foreign policy, how do you defeat ISIS? Donald has no idea whatsoever. And so when it comes to the debt, he doesn't understand the problem. He hasn't spend any time studying.
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BANFIELD: Missing a few keys, huh? Well, joining me now, Scottie Nell Hughes is going to correct that one, I'm sure. And she's a national political commentator for USA Radio Networks and an avid Trump supporter. CNN political commentator Tara Setmayer is also here with me.
So I'm going to start with you, Scottie, because, you know, these epithets fly back and forth so quickly, I can barely collect them before the new ones start arriving in my inbox, but let's go with this one. In the most recent NBC/"Wall Street Journal" poll, there was a really fascinating number that came out about Republicans who were polled about these rules where Donald Trump says it's all rigged. It's all rigged. It's not fair. Fifty-five percent of those asked said it's absolutely fine for Ted Cruz to use the rules the way they are. I'm going to add this on my own, much the same way Donald Trump has said, I used the bankruptcy rules because they're the rules. You may not like it, but they're the way they are. And this is what the folks have been asked say, 55 percent say it's fine. So why does Donald Trump get to say, no, it's rigged?
SCOTTIE NELL HUGHES, NATL. POLITICAL COMMENTATOR, USA RADIO NETWORKS: Because you look at the state of Georgia, where Donald Trump came in first with 501,000 votes, popular votes, people who went to the polls and pushed Donald Trump. Ted Cruz came in with 301,000 votes, 200,000 less, yet out of that state, Ted Cruz is going to leave with more majority of delegates. If you can't say that there's something not right there. You know, Ted Cruz is right, that first vote is going to be a representation of the people. And Donald Trump will get the majority of the representation of the delegates who represent the people. The second one, it's going to be the representatives of the politicos, and that is who we're finding are the people that are lining up between Ted Cruz. However, here's the problem. If we go into a first and second vote, we're going to go into a third vote. I guarantee it. And that, right there, is where we're seeing all these Trojan horse delegates that are coming in there, being underneath the helms of Ted Cruz.
BANFIELD: Look at this reaction. Look at this right here.
HUGHES: That the - that's where you're going to get this (INAUDIBLE).
BANFIELD: This girl here is the rules girl.
TARA SETMAYER, CNN POLITICAL COMMENTATOR: Yes.
HUGHES: If it was - but you can't easily do it. The problem is, Donald Trump is not disputing the delegates that are elected by the people. Those folks were going to Cleveland and they're going to represent both Ted Cruz and Donald Trump. The majority of them are Donald Trump.
Where the dispute is coming from are the ones that are being elected and appointed by the state party.
BANFIELD: OK. So -
SETMAYER: OK.
BANFIELD: I think I know what your retort is, but effectively we all knew this stuff a year ago. I was reading up on this junk, the nerdiest stuff -
HUGHES: But does that make it right? Does it make it right?
BANFIELD: Which is the way - it's the bed you make when you get into the race.
HUGHES: That's right.
SETMAYER: And also the selection of delegates, you - party delegates to nominate your party nominee has been going on for 160 years. This is not something that's new. This is not something that all of a sudden popped up a month ago and is - this is just an excuse for Donald Trump to deflect from the fact that, a, he doesn't have any real policies, b, that this has been a campaign all about culture (ph) personality. And then, you know what, as a chief propagandist, what do you do? You go out and you repeat simple things and then you try to undermine the system because it's not working for you at the time.
[12:10:10] In Georgia I'll give you a perfect example. So they're talking about Georgia and how he's going to come out with less delegates. First of all, Georgia was an open primary, number one. Donald Trump only got 39 percent of the vote there. But he's going to come out with 57 percent of the delegates because 57 percent of the delegates are bound to vote for him for the first two rounds.
BANFIELD: Yes, I see this -
SETMAYER: So, wait a minute. So if that's the case, if it's so rigged, Donald Trump is benefitting from this for the first two rounds. He gets 20 percent more delegates -
HUGHES: But that the rules right now.
SETMAYER: Twenty-five percent more - 20 percent more delegates than people who actually voted for him.
HUGHES: That is of the rules -
SETMAYER: And there were non-Republicans who voted for him. So what is the problem with the rules being set up in county conventions, which have been around since 1820, coming in and nominating their delegates from a grassroots perspective?
BANFIELD: 1820, that's older than me.
HUGHES: But that - but are we (INAUDIBLE).
BANFIELD: Let me ask you this, because Donald Trump is not in love with what's going on with the rules. He says it's rigged. He has also alluded to the idea that I don't have to stay true to this deal, the pledge that I took. I could do an independent run. And there's actually a great question that was asked of those Republicans who were polled and they said, 45 percent of them, it would be just fine if Donald Trump ran as an independent if he doesn't get the nomination. But he hasn't talked much about that. Why?
HUGHES: Because he's so confident that he's going to have that magic number by the time we get to Cleveland. If you look at the map, the only - the only two - person who's mathematically able to reach that number is Donald Trump. And all - now, just like you -
BANFIELD: It is - it's narrower, you have to admit.
HUGHES: It's getting narrower every day.
SETMAYER: But he needs 67 percent.
HUGHES: But it's mathematically impossible for Ted Cruz and John Kasich.
BANFIELD: That's a big jump.
HUGHES: So their whole goal right now with their campaigns is to create the chaos (INAUDIBLE). Here is the one thing that you have to talk about. When you sit here and you look at it, is it working for you? As Donald Trump pointed out in his op-ed -
BANFIELD: Yes.
HUGHES: Is this great? This is the rules of the system, but is it really working for us right now?
BANFIELD: Thirty seconds left. Thirty seconds.
HUGHES: (INAUDIBLE) political (ph) in power.
SETMAYER: It's - it's - this is such a circuitous argument. It's all over the place. So the system works just fine for Donald Trump when he's winning and I just gave you an example, in Georgia where it was an open primary, he only won 39 percent but he's getting 57 percent of the delegates and he's still whining about a rigged system. That's number one.
Number two, the nomination process is something that, again, that has been around historically for 160 years.
HUGHES: Exactly.
BANFIELD: Right.
SETMAYER: So Donald Trump - but Donald Trump's platform coming in to running for president was not, let's throw out the entire nomination system that's been around for 160 years that was good enough for Abraham Lincoln because I feel as though there should be a direct primary vote and that's it.
BANFIELD: Yes. It's - it's amazing -
SETMAYER: Donald Trump doesn't get to make those decisions. Welcome to -
HUGHES: Novel concept, we the people. Novel concept, you vote, you actually get the person the people want, not the politicals. And not the politicals.
BANFIELD: OK.
SETMAYER: Welcome to running for president. Welcome to - so what's he going - so what's he going to do with the electoral college? Is he going to complain about that?
HUGHES: You know what, you don't elect on the electoral -
SETMAYER: (INAUDIBLE) the same thing. It's the same thing.
HUGHES: You know, in November, it doesn't matter these things.
BANFIELD: You know what the weird thing about the show, it is not a democracy on this set. I am done. OK. Thank you.
SETMAYER: And we're in a republic, by the way.
BANFIELD: Ladies, thank you. I always appreciate you. Scottie Nell Hughes, Tara Setmayer. Ah, bringing the fire, bringing the fire.
Coming up next, I love it when people throw money at me. It doesn't happen very often, but it happened this weekend. So why are Bernie Sanders supporters doing this? Look at this. That's real money, folks. And they're throwing it at Hillary Clinton, literally. Will those huge Sanders crowds that we've seen in New York, will they pay off though at the ballot box?
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[12:17:07] BANFIELD: The Democrats launching a full-court press to appeal to voters dashing around New York City in these final hours leading up to the big one. That's tomorrow's primary here. There's Hillary Clinton. She' greeting supporters at a get out the vote rally just a few minutes ago and she's making her pitch to the voters about why she is the better choice to stand up to the GOP candidates.
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HILLARY CLINTON (D), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: There are a lot of differences between me and my opponents, both in the Democratic primary and in the Republican primary. And I can tell you this, I will not let someone like Donald Trump or Ted Cruz say what he is saying about the people, the hard working people, including immigrants, but everyone who works hard in New York. And contrary to Mr. - to Senator Cruz, I think New York values are America's values.
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BANFIELD: In the meantime, Senator Bernie Sanders is drawing a massive crowd of more than 28,000 people. All this happening during a rally and concert in Brooklyn. And if you know Brooklyn, Prospect Park. Fancy place. Great place. Pretty excited people.
For the very latest on the down to the wire fight for votes in the big apple and all around the state of New York, I want to go to CNN's Chris Frates, who's standing by.
Hey, Bernie Sanders was on "New Day" this morning and Chris Cuomo, our illustrious colleague, was right to the chase. He's made a lot of criticisms and he's pointed them towards the big money that Hillary Clinton, he says, has taken in. But so far it doesn't sound like Bernie Sanders has been able to answer what that big money has done, has there been influence. I want you to kind of get me to that point and why this is becoming critical?
CHRIS FRATES, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Yes. So let's back up a little bit here, Ashleigh. You raised a really good point. Bernie Sanders has never been able to say, well, she took some money and then she did a favor. In fact, he says he doesn't think that's how it happens. But he has been able to break through a little bit with his message that big money is a problem in politics.
In fact, a supporter of Hillary Clinton, a big a-list supporter, George Clooney, did some fundraisers for her in California this weekend and then he was asked in an interview, well isn't it an obscene amount of money that you've raised for her? Some of the big VIP tickets to that fundraiser going for $350,000. And George Clooney saying, yes, I do think it's pretty obscene. It's kind of ridiculous. And I do believe that Bernie Sanders is right when he talks about that there's too much money in politics. So even there, a Clinton supporter, saying there's too much money in politics.
Now, the Clinton folks would say, well, you have to play the game and win in order to change the rules. And Chris Cuomo asked Bernie Sanders a little bit about this today on "New Day," and Bernie Sanders, you know, made his point that he thinks Hillary Clinton is influenced by that big money.
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SEN. BERNIE SANDERS (D), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: I'm not suggesting that money immediately results in a vote or a vote - either way. We know, and the evidence is not debatable, that major Wall Street firms have been operating in a fraudulent manner. If we know that a handful of these firms have incredible economic and political power, should they be broken up? I began this campaign by saying yes, too much economic and political power, too much fraudulent activity. Hillary Clinton has not come onboard that point of view.
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[12:20:29] FRATES: So Bernie Sanders continued to hammer that point home, that you need to break up the banks. When I sat down with him right after that interview for a FaceBook live interview, Ashleigh, you can check that out on the CNN FaceBook page and see what else that Bernie Sanders had to say. It was a good, casual conversation, Ashleigh.
BANFIELD: I'm going to do that just as soon as I'm not live broadcasting anymore, Chris Frates. Thank you so much. Appreciate it.
FRATES: Thank you.
BANFIELD: I should do more on FaceBook, shouldn't I?
I want to do more on the final push, though, for votes on the Democratic side. So for that I want to bring in the mayor of Miami Beach and Hillary Clinton supporter Philip Levine, and CNN political commentator Sally Kohn, who supports Bernie Sanders. Not afraid to say it and out loud.
SALLY KOHN, CNN POLITICAL COMMENTATOR: I just - I just endorsed him yesterday, in fact.
BANFIELD: That's why you've lost your voice?
KOHN: At the Prospect Park rally, which is why I lost my voice that day, yes.
BANFIELD: Good way to jump off, 28,000 people there. The Sanders campaign says it's the biggest group he's had. You see all those young faces in every one of those live shots that we - that we do out there in those rallies and there were no shortage of them out there.
Sally Kohn, it's the most often repeated question all through the campaign, why those people don't actually pick up their lazy butts and go to the polls on voter day?
KOHN: I mean they're going to.
BANFIELD: Are they?
KOHN: I mean, come on, look at - when young people made - were part of the coalition that made the difference in electing Barack Obama.
BANFIELD: And minority.
KOHN: I me, come on. And this is - and people of color too. And so this sort of engaging more and more people in voting is part of the Democratic process, number one.
BANFIELD: Does it have - but does it have that same dynamic as the minorities though? KOHN: Number two, it was a wide - it was a wide range of folks out
there in Brooklyn. And I'd also like to point out that, you know, I don't think it received as much attention and coverage if say it had been a Donald Trump rally of 27,000 people, we'd probably would have covered it. We would have all - the whole media covered it live and "The New York Times" would have reported on the rally. All of that.
BANFIELD: Well, were there any fights? Were there fights?
KOHN: Well, you know, it's interesting, there was a protester. And I watched how the protester was handled at the - at the Sanders rally.
BANFIELD: What happened?
KOHN: And they had a community group of people came to talk to her and then the police came. And it was like a half hour process. She didn't get, you know, beaten up. She didn't get dragged out. They - they -
BANFIELD: No charges?
KOHN: They dealt with the situation in a peaceful way. It was a great metaphor for what he would do as president.
BANFIELD: Well, we'll see if the momentum, you know, if he gets that - if he can rally those folks to the polls because he's got lots of numbers as they show up at these events. No question about it. But that is a the big - you know, $64,000 question.
KOHN: They seem to turn up in the last eight out of nine states.
BANFIELD: It's true. Mr. Mayor, that is the better jumping off point for you then. Eight of nine. And momentum is important in this race. Look, Hillary Clinton's numbers are great in New York. But if she doesn't win and win big here, you've got to admit that her momentum, her mojo, her mo, suffering.
MAYOR PHILIP LEVINE, MIAMI BEACH, FLORIDA: Ashleigh, I've got to tell you something, I'm the mayor of Miami Beach. They call us the sixth borough of New York. And we are the most diverse community you can imagine. And Secretary Clinton is loved and revered in the state of Florida. That's why she won so big.
What we're seeing in New York is that the same type of numbers. This morning, I was at a get out the vote - I was with canvassers. You can't believe the energy that's happening for Secretary Clinton, which, by the way, isn't being covered as well. But I got to tell you something, I think that what we're seeing here, of course, is that Secretary Clinton is going to win New York, but this is Bernie Sanders' home state.
Now, let me tell you something.
BANFIELD: And hers.
KOHN: Whoa, (INAUDIBLE). LEVINE: He needs to win it. He made it very, very clear that he needs to - he needs to win this state. Don't be fooled by his strong New England accent, OK. This is his home state.
BANFIELD: That (INAUDIBLE) accent.
LEVINE: So he needs to win the state.
BANFIELD: Yes.
LEVINE: I think tomorrow's going to be great. But, of course, these rallies are wonderful and we hope and we look forward to that young energy backing Secretary Clinton.
KOHN: Can I just say, he doesn't - he doesn't need to win the state. He - you know, he needs to close the margin from what the expectation was. And the fact is, I think he's going to do that. So, in other words, if Hillary loses the state, it's a big problem for her. But if he doesn't -
LEVINE: No, no, no, he said - he said early on he has to win this state. And we're going to take him for his word.
KOHN: But he's also - no, no, he said -
LEVINE: So we know he needs to win it.
KOHN: He says he wants to win the state, but he's also going to go all the way -
LEVINE: Oh, no, he said he has to win it.
BANFIELD: Raising expectations. (INAUDIBLE).
LEVINE: Oh, no.
KOHN: He'll go all the way. But, look, you've got a frontrunner who's lost - who's lost the last eight out of the nine primaries.
LEVINE: Won Florida. Won Ohio.
KOHN: Who's losing - who's losing -
LEVINE: We're going to win New York. Who's won so many of the important states.
BANFIELD: Make the big point, Sally.
KOHN: My only point is - yes.
LEVINE: By the way, these are states that represent America today. Half the diversity of America today.
KOHN: Oh, I'm so sorry the other states don't represent America?
LEVINE: When you have these caucus - BANFIELD: You're not suggesting there's New York values, are you?
KOHN: What?
LEVINE: No, but, of course, think about something, though. In some of these caucus states, they don't have the minorities. They're not the new America.
KOHN: (INAUDIBLE) they all represent America. That's why they're the states of America.
LEVINE: This is the new America.
KOHN: You know what -
BANFIELD: Let me get to a piece of policy here, and I think this is important because one of the criticisms that Bernie Sanders has levelled against Hillary Clinton, Chris Frates just addressed it and also Chris Cuomo this morning addressed it with the senator, is that, look, you're real quick to say that Hillary Clinton takes big money from lobbyists, oil money, but then he doesn't deliver on where that's had an effect. Look, there's an argument to be made that lobbyists represent lots of interests. It's not fair to say she's taking big oil money. But when he's asked and pressed on exactly what has Hillary Clinton done for that money, that you can show one evidence, he doesn't deliver it, Sally.
[12:25:05] KOHN: Well, first of all, there was a bankruptcy bill that she said - I might - I hope I don't get the facts wrong on this because I wasn't prepared for the question, but it was a bankruptcy bill -
BANFIELD: But you're not the candidate.
KOHN: No, no, but I'm saying -
BANFIELD: I'm not asking you, I'm asking you to tell me what your candidate said (INAUDIBLE) -
LEVINE: Sally, answer the question. Answer the question.
KOHN: But, second of all, come on. This - we're not talking about explicit corruption, which would be what that was. Here's the money, now exchange and get the vote. That would be explicit corruption. That would be illegal. We're talking about - the American people aren't - they understand exactly what Bernie Sanders is talking about. They're talking about politicians on both sides of the aisle who take money from big business instead of the -
LEVINE: Well, we think this is an issue for everybody.
KOHN: Instead of the people and so - and so those politicians -
BANFIELD: (INAUDIBLE) sometimes the devil's in the details. OK.
KOHN: And those politicians make policy that helps big business. LEVINE: But, Sally, this is an issue for everybody.
KOHN: That's what we have.
BANFIELD: Sometimes the devil's in the details and sometimes the devil's in the headlines.
LEVINE: No question about it.
BANFIELD: And your lady is not getting the good headlines (INAUDIBLE).
LEVINE: But listen - think about what Senator Sanders said. He said, I raised millions of dollars for the Democratic senatorial campaign committee. I've raised millions of dollars for the DNC. Where's that money coming from if Senator Sanders raised it? The same place it all comes from.
KOHN: You know what, again -
BANFIELD: I've got to wrap it there now, guys. Honestly, we could - I mean this could go on all day.
LEVINE: Absolutely.
KOHN: Everybody go vote tomorrow.
BANFIELD: And maybe all day tomorrow too.
KOHN: Go vote.
BANFIELD: Mayor, thank you so much. It's great to have you on the set.
LEVINE: Thank you so much.
BANFIELD: We'll have you again. Love it, Sally, as well. (INAUDIBLE).
KOHN: Let's do it in this town.
BANFIELD: I'm in. I'm in. (INAUDIBLE) on you.
LEVINE: Well, you'll be a supporter by then.
BANFIELD: But first you've got to stay here for these. The New York primary is all day tomorrow. A lot at stake for both Dems and Republicans. Crucial New York, folks. We're going to cover it from all angles right here on CNN.
I'm going to switch gears for a moment, though, because up next I want to show you these incredible pictures that are coming out of Jerusalem. A really frightening scene there. A bus went up in flames. An update on the injuries and the cause. Is it terror? We're going to give you all the details in a moment.
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