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Prince Autopsy Complete, Body Released to Family; New Polls Show Trump Leading in California, Indiana; The World Remembers Prince in Purple. Aired 7-8p ET
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[19:00:15] ERIN BURNETT, CNN ANCHOR: OUTFRONT next, breaking news. Investigators revealing new details about Prince's death. The autopsy just completed. How did the rock star die? And one of the last people to see Prince alive. His friend tells us about the legend's terrifying dreams and his state of mind.
Plus, is Donald Trump's tough talk on the trail just an act? Let's go OUTFRONT.
And good evening. I'm Erin Burnett OUTFRONT on this Friday night. Breaking news on the investigation into Prince's death. Officials speaking for the first time, just a short time ago. Detailing Prince's final moments. A music legend alone when he died, last seen at 8:00 the night before he was found. Collapsed in an elevator on his estate.
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SHERIFF JIM OLSON, CARVER COUNTY, MINNESOTA: Staff members from Paisley Park had been able to -- had been unable to contact Prince yesterday morning. And went to check on him. They found him unresponsive and called 911.
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BURNETT: Also breaking at this hour, the autopsy now complete. Prince's body has been released to his family. But police say their investigation into what killed Prince so suddenly is not done.
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OLSON: We are going to leave no stone unturned with this. And make sure that public knows what happened.
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BURNETT: Also tonight, new details on Prince's final flight home after his performances in Atlanta a week ago. We are learning that Prince's plane went into a steep dive. And let me just tell you how steep. It was going down at 45,000 feet in just 17 minutes. At one point dropping at more than 5,000 feet a minute. That's how desperate the situation was on board. That plane made an emergency landing in Moline, Illinois, where Prince was reportedly rushed to a nearby hospital. We don't yet know the details on why. And what happened. And whether it was related, possibly, to his death or not. The star's death has shocked the entire world. President Obama talking about Prince's death tonight on a trip to London.
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PRES. BARACK OBAMA (D), UNITED STATES: I love Prince because -- he put out great music. And he was a great performer. I didn't know him well. He came to perform at the White House last year, and was extraordinary.
Ryan Young is OUTFRONT tonight to begin our coverage in Prince's hometown of Chanhassen, Minnesota. And Ryan, what are you learning tonight?
RYAN YOUNG, CNN NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: And we know we're learning more about that time line. In fact, the idea that he was home alone when this phone call finally came in. Someone decided to come here because they weren't able to get in touch with him, rushing here and then finding him in that elevator. Once emergency responders were able to get here, they were not able to revive him. So many people here are still traveling trying to figure out exactly what happened.
YOUNG (voice-over): Tonight investigators are poring over records and autopsy results, trying to determine what caused the sudden death of Prince.
OLSON: We'll be talking to people that are close to him. We'll be gathering some medical records.
YOUNG: Prince was found Thursday morning inside an elevator in a sprawling estate known as Paisley Park.
OLSON: Staff members from Paisley Park had been able to -- had been unable to contact Prince yesterday morning. And went to check on him. They found him unresponsive and called 911.
YOUNG: Investigators confirmed that a driver dropped Prince off at his compound around 8:00 p.m. Wednesday and that they believe the singer was alone until staff members became worried. The sheriff's office did say there were no signs of trauma, but his investigators did process the home and are still gathering evidence.
OLSON: A sign of trauma would be some sign of violence or something violent had happened. There was no sign of that at all.
YOUNG: The news of Prince's death has been a shock to the world and the community.
AARON MEYERRING, CO-OWNER, ELECTRIC FETUS: It does something when you -- not just because it's Prince and he's such a huge worldwide star. But when you shake another human being's hand and less than five days later they're not with you anymore. It just does something to you. You know, it really makes you think about life.
YOUNG: Aaron Meyerring as part owner of the Electric Fetus, a music store Prince went to in the days just before his death.
MEYERRING: He showed up on record store day, which was this past Saturday, which he gave us a lot of love in the morning with a great tweet. He seemed perfectly fine. I would have never in a million years predicted or guessed that he's under the weather or in bad health.
YOUNG: Prince did have a party here at Paisley Park on Saturday, to share some of the music so many loved.
MEYERRING: He made about a five-minute appearance, and did some talking, and if you were there, there's only a couple hundred people there. And it was a lot of people in town there kicking themselves for not going right now.
YOUNG: A final sendoff that no one saw coming.
[19:05:03] YOUNG: So Erin, we asked questions about whether or not there was security camera footage of what happened inside that home. Police would not share that information with us. They did say they turned the body back over to the family. But look over my shoulder, you can see the Sheriff's Department still remains on-scene, they tell us they're just trying to keep a perimeter here because so many people are showing up, trying to get a glimpse of something that is going on here. We have seen family members and friends arriving here at the compound. But so far, everyone is waiting to see what happens next with this investigation. And what things that the authorities find as they start going through this autopsy.
BURNETT: All right. Thank you very much, Ryan Young. So many questions and so many people around the world, you know, who want answers tonight as investigators try to determine a cause of death. Many are looking to Prince's final appearances to try to find clues, including this performance, literally one week ago in Atlanta.
(PRINCE PERFORMING "PURPLE RAIN")
And then Prince hosted one final event, more informal one, he performed just a couple hundred people at a party at his compound right after that estate. Jeremiah Freed was there, he's a long-time friend of Princes.
And Jeremiah, thank you so much for being with us tonight. Obviously, circumstances no one could have envisioned would have ever thought that this would be happening. I mean, you were just there with him days ago. What was he like at that concert at his estate?
JEREMIAH FREED, WRITER AND FRIEND OF PRINCE: He seemed a little bit upset. And, of course, he would be when you're having these reports of your demise or that you're in really bad health and here he is, walking around, fine. When I first saw him, he just, you know -- he didn't smile. He just had a business-like look on his face. And that, you know, he was going to take care of it. He looked a little bit upset. And the first thing he did when he got on stage is he just went into a strange daze. You know, when you hear stuff like this, wait a couple days. Save your prayers for a couple days. You know? And --
BURNETT: And that was of course after the plane incident. But you said he just seemed upset is the word he used. You used.
FREED: Yes. He just looked a little bit perturbed. You know, and, of course, he is battling the flu. He was battling it. They even brought him a big old bowl of soup afterwards. Towards the end of the night. So he still wasn't feeling well. But he wanted to make this appearance. He wanted everyone to know that he's okay. You know, he wanted to make sure I was there, just to get the word out to people that he was all right, at least then.
BURNETT: And Jeremiah, I know you -- have known him for a long time. You had a chance to speak to him earlier this year. Specifically about his dreams. Which is something that really stood out to me. What did he tell you about them?
FREED: He actually said this when he was on stage doing a -- he kicked off his piano and a microphone tour at Paisley Park in January. And during the performance when he mentioned David Bowie's passing, he also mentioned that he has lucid dreams a lot. And then he sees friends that have passed away in these dreams. And he's able to converse with them and he looks forward to these dreams. It's kind of weird. This was before, like, his long-time girlfriend, Vanity passed away. This is before that, even. So it just was a little eerie, you know. But for him, it probably makes sense and made him happy that he's able to see people that he isn't normally able to see. But only in these dreams.
BURNETT: And you describe it as a little bit eerie. But when you hear the details of what happened, no signs of trauma, no reason to believe it was a suicide. So sudden, sure, he indicated he wasn't feeling well, but so sudden. How do you make sense of it?
FREED: It's hard to make sense, especially because of how private he is. And I'm sure he wouldn't be happy with everything that's going on. You know, he doesn't want to be mourned. He would rather have his music and his life and everything just celebrated and, you know, just this whole privacy thing and then all of this -- he wouldn't want what's going on and what's going to be going down in a few weeks. And we just need to at least for the best what he would want is just celebrate the music, celebrate everything, celebrate the life. Let's not mourn.
BURNETT: All right. Jeremiah, thank you very much.
And OUTFRONT now, our contributor and "ENTERTAINMENT TONIGHT" correspondent, Nischelle Turner and Bill Werde, the former editorial director for Billboard Magazine.
Also joining me on the phone, Dr. Charles Sophy, psychiatrist, and medical director at the Los Angeles County Department of Children and Family Services. Dr. Sophy, let me start with you. You know, people do just have a -- such a curiosity about this. They want to know what happened. And they want to know, because people love Prince, they love his music. They thought they would have so many more times to hear him. And now they do not. This autopsy, is this going to provide the answers that the police say it will provide, that the public is going to get answers?
DR. CHARLES SOPHY, PSYCHIATRIST (by the phone): Well, I think they'll definitely get answers. We will all get answers. Because we need them. None of this makes sense. We didn't see somebody who was failing in life. But these answers might help us understand better a bigger picture. They may be specific to a problem. But they also just may be kind of clues to lead us to think other things. So it may be very helpful. But it will be at least helpful.
[19:10:16] BURNETT: Nischelle, you know, you just heard Jeremiah say that Prince have talked about his dreams and how lucid they were. Instead it was, you know, very eerie that he didn't seem like he was feeling well even just a few days ago. But the talk about the dreams goes back much farther than that. Of course, there is a lot of speculation out there about what may have caused Prince's death. And you had a chance, Nischelle, to speak to his former fiancee about some of his struggles. What did she tell you?
NISCHELLE TURNER, CNN HOST, "ENTERTAINMENT TONIGHT": You know, I mean, we talked about a lot. I mean, you know, Sheila E. was once his fiancee, collaborator, his muse at one point in time. They met in 1978. So she -- we talked about 38 years of memories. But, you know, she talked a lot about Prince's evolution. His spiritual evolution. She talked about his mental evolution. Some of the dreams he had for himself. And how he, you know, came to different places in his life. She talked about the fact that when she first left, you know, Prince in 1989, she didn't agree with the direction he was going.
He was going into a new phase of his life that she just didn't jive with musically or spiritually. But then they came back together. You know, he talked a lot about the fact that he was very complex. But he was very kind and very gentle. And super sexy to her and very fun. So there was a lot of things that she talked about. But ultimately, at the end of the day, she talked about the fact of how they loved each other. And that even though they hadn't been together for such a long time, when she heard of this, she felt his spirit asking her to come here. And she couldn't stay away. So that's why she came to be with his family, and be here at Paisley Park, where she was last night until 1:30 in the morning, just to figure out what was going on and what's the next step they should take.
BURNETT: And Bill, he was, you just heard Jeremiah say, you were talking about this with me before the show. And amazingly private person. Right. He didn't live in the big city lights. He chose to live in Minnesota where he grew up. In a very isolated, you know, sort of compound there. You say looking back there may have been signs that he had been in pain. That there were things that were not totally right.
BILL WERDE, FORMER EDITORIAL DIRECTOR, BILLBOARD MAGAZINE: Yes. I just have to say one quick thing which is, when he talked about those lucid dreams, it kind of puts a whole different spin on "1999". I was dreaming when I wrote this, forgive me if it goes astray. This is all I can think of when Jeremiah was talking. Yes. I mean, Prince was famously private and also a very controlling of the information and the images and the music that would get out there, something that would cause him to do battle with record labels, like that.
WERDE: You know, I think that a lot of artists, particularly artists that go through a long career like this and perform in the physically demanding way that Prince was known for performing, you know, you wind up with body pain. You wind up with degenerative hips. You wind up with ankles.
BURNETT: Like Michael Jackson, you see this --
WERDE: Like Michael Jackson. You know, I don't want to jump to any conclusions. You know, I think that it wouldn't surprise me if you know, if you know, if he was trying to threat pain. But everything about his desire for control, everything about his spirituality, would tell me that this is not a guy that's, like, you know, trying to abuse something or just looking for a good time or something like that.
BURNETT: And Nischelle?
TURNER: Yes, you know, Erin, it's interesting. Because Sheila and I did talk about that specifically. I asked her if she knew anything about him taking pain killers or having, you know, become dependent on them. And she said she did not have information about that. But she did tell me that Prince had been in a lot of pain for a number of years. She said prolonged pain. And she did say, in fact, that it came from all of the stress and strain that touring took on his body, especially the fact he wore high heels all of the time.
TURNER: He jumped off risers and it had a real toll on his knees and his hips. And she did say that did affect him and that he was in pain. Now, as far as him taking pain killers for that, she didn't know. And we won't know, really, I guess, until the toxicology reports are done. But she did talk about the fact that he was in a lot of pain, yes.
WEDER: I was going to say, you look back now at like his last Grammy appearance or these kinds of moments and he always had that scepter with him, that cane with him that was super stylist and we all thought it was kind of, for style, and I think maybe, you look back now and you want to understand that maybe a little bit --
BURNETT: Maybe it wasn't for style.
All right. Thank you all very much.
Next, inside Paisley Park, Prince's mysterious compound, that estate that you see there. The architect of that building talks to us, talks actually about a secret vault in the compound. What is inside it? Our special report is next. And a woman who shared the stage with Prince and says he was like an
uncle. Tamar Davis is my guest next. And tributes to Prince from around the world tonight.
[19:18:27] BURNETT: Breaking news tonight. Police still searching Prince's estate for clues about his sudden death. Late today, investigators revealing that the Grammy-award winning artist was seen at his state Paisley Park around 8:00 Wednesday night. He was alone, they say, as he often was. Hidden away in his colossal compound and studio.
Jean Casarez is OUTFRONT with an inside look at the musician's safe haven and home.
JEAN CASAREZ, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): From the outside, Paisley Park looks like any large commercial building. But inside, the creative genius and mysterious side of music icon, Prince, is on full display.
BRET THOENY, PAISLEY PARK ARCHITECT: Prince wanted to have a place where he could do all his music and make films and do his tour rehearsals and to dance, choreography and everything under one roof. Which is back 25 years ago was quite progressive.
CASAREZ: Designed by Los Angeles architect Bret Thoeny, the $10 million, 65,000 square foot complex is a curiosity to many. Thoeny says it took the better part of three years from conception to completion in 1987. Walking through the front door transcends into Prince's reality.
THOENY: When you come to Paisley Park, you come in the front, the lobby, with the pyramid, the two story over your head. And then it is cold in Minnesota so you have another set of doors that you go through, and then you get warm.
CASAREZ: The first floor houses production facilities, including state-of-the-art recording studios, a sound stage and massive rehearsal hall. Prince wanted no windows in the downstairs performance areas, creating a timeless environment where he could work without knowing when night became day. The second floor designed with windows includes executive offices, as well as Prince's personal haven.
THOENY: A portion of it could be like a stayover where if he was in the studio late, which he always was, he could just crash for a few hours and get back to the studio.
CASAREZ: And as for a secret vault in the building, yes there is. Prince requested one.
THOENY: We did a vault for Prince. He wanted a place to keep his master recordings. But at the time he was very important to keep this a secret.
CASAREZ: He wasn't just secretive about the vault, but about entire property. A long-time friend of Prince tells CNN he didn't like people taking pictures inside. Prince named his complex Paisley Park, Thoeny says after his love of print design. And a song he recorded by the same name released in 1985.
Thoeny says he will never forget, despite his fear of heights, Prince bringing him up on the massive roof to see the view.
THOENY: You can see the lakes and you can see the landscape. And it was just a moment that was important for him to go up there.
CASAREZ: Also in the complex is the clothing design office, it's where the wardrobe of Prince was design. It was made there and also on the first floor an absolute entire kitchen, complete with his personal chef. Now let's tragically talk about the elevator.
CASAREZ: His body was found there. There was only one elevator in this massive complex. It was in the center of the building. Went obviously from the first floor to the second floor. But it went from that recording studio, all of that --
CASAREZ: -- up to his personal office. And the other executive offices. So --
CASAREZ: One way or the other, he was either going down or coming up.
BURNETT: From that elevator. And, of course, he's using the elevator and not the stairs. And answering questions as to whether he was having trouble or in pain. Thank you so much, Jean Casarez.
And OUTFRONT now, a close friend of Prince, Tamar Davis, she is one of his protege. She toured with him. She spent time in his estate. Knew him so very well.
And Tamar, thank you so much for talking to us. I know this is hard for you and we appreciate you taking the time to memorialize someone who is so deer in your life. I know you were only 11-years-old when you first went there to Paisley Park. We just saw that amazing report about what it's like inside. You've been there. What do you remember about being there with Prince?
TAMAR DAVIS, SINGER WHO TOURED WITH PRINCE: Well, I mean, I recorded "3121" there and I recorded "Milk and Honey" there. But when I was 11, I just remember being in -- I remember the recording studio. And that's all I remember. I didn't remember the kitchen, the foyer, I didn't remember any of that. My mother was with me. I remembered the vault. I do remember the vault. That's where -- and I've never to this very day seen the film "Purple Rain." That's a joke that we always had. But I remember seeing the purple bicycle in there. But at 11 years old, that was my first and fondest memory. But once going back there and when we started recording in 2005, it was a vision that you've never even or could even think of existing.
[19:23:25] And like I heard, you know, it is very true. He had an art department, he had a wardrobe department. There is a library there. He was really into the Bible and the truth. And so we had an actual study room there. There is a kitchen there. I mean, it was literally like a one stop shop. You know, he did not have to outsource anything. Everything was there. And when it was time to record, all the musicians came there. You know, the engineers came there. When he did his performances, I remember seeing my first Prince concert at 11, and the sound stage is like massive. And it just came to life with the concert that you would see "musicology" tour. The tour we did. You know?
DAVIS: So, he was truly a man of vision. And Paisley Park was literally that. It was just pure and genius vision.
BURNETT: And you know what's amazing, one of the things -- I don't know if you heard the architect in that piece, Tamar, talking about how cold it is and how there is the double foyer and we saw some of the pictures of how grand it is when you walked in. You know, he talked about that to Oprah once and she asked him point blank, you know, why do you live in Minneapolis and you don't live in New York or you don't live in Los Angeles? She asked him, and here's how he answered the question.
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OPRAH WINFREY, TALK SHOW HOST: You're living in Minneapolis of all places.
PRINCE (JUNE 7, 1958 - APRIL 21, 2016), MUSICIAN: Minneapolis, yes. I will always live in Minneapolis.
WINFREY: Do you -- you always live there?
PRINCE: It's so cold, it keeps the bad people out.
WINFREY: I believe that. Do you like go to the mall?
PRINCE: Last time I went to the mall, I took about 400 people out with me. So I don't do that much.
WINFREY: You don't do that.
(END VIDEO CLIP) BURNETT: I'm sure Tamar, sort of a bittersweet thing for you to hear. But you know, one of the thing he said there, it's so cold, it keeps the bad people out. And, you know, he seemed somewhat, you know, serious when he said that. You know you know him and you talk about his spirituality. How important the Bible was to him. What do you think he meant by that?
DAVIS: Of course I don't know what he meant by it. But all the times that we have spent as -- in the professional world, as, like, being with my family and my family being a part of his world, Chanhassen and Minneapolis was very quiet. And it's something that I learned from him. I'm from a big city. But I appreciate the quiet more so now than I've ever appreciated it. And I understood it. Once you got in those gates, it was really like work, and just fun. I mean, there was a game room.
We would play -- all of us would play games in there. I mean, he had an actual nightclub in there. So it became different things for everyone. And I -- as far as it's being cold, of course, Minneapolis is cold. But that -- Paisley Park is warm. His spirit is warm. He was a man of just integrity. He was like an uncle figure to me in particular but to answer the question, I mean, it was one of the warmest places on earth. Honestly.
BURNETT: Tamar, it's a beautiful way of putting it. And thank you so much for sharing that with us.
DAVIS: Thank you.
BURNETT: A brief glimpse into such a private man from someone who was kind enough to share, who was close.
OUTFRONT next, the GOP newly released audio of a top Trump aide. What he told the Republican National Committee meeting behind closed doors.
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PAUL MANAFORT, DONALD TRUMP'S SENIOR CAMPAIGN ADVISER: The negatives will come down, the image is going to change, and Clinton is still going to be "crooked Hillary." And that's what you are going to be seeing a lot more of.
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BURNETT: Plus, why this man sought out a Ku Klux Klan leader.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: All right. There's a car with the headlights on. If that's him, he will blink his head lights. Let's go.
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BURNETT: Stunning report. And we'll talk to a friend and fellow musician about the treasure trove of unreleased Prince music to come that might be in that vault Tamar was talking about. (COMMERCIAL BREAK)
[19:31:13] BURNETT: Breaking news: New polls out tonight in the race for the Republican presidential nomination. Donald Trump with a 27- point lead over Ted Cruz in California. This is according to the latest FOX News poll. There are 172 delegates up for grabs there.
In Indiana, much tighter. Trump with an eight-point lead over Cruz, 57 delegates at stake. That is a crucial state for both men. It comes as revealing new audio surfaces from a meeting behind closed doors between Donald Trump's new campaign chief and members of the RNC.
His message, what you see right now is not what you will get in the White House.
Sunlen Serfaty is OUTFRONT.
DONALD TRUMP (R), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: It's such a crooked system.
SUNLEN SERFATY, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): As Donald Trump publicly rails against the Republican nominating system --
TRUMP: They take them out to dinner, they send them to hotels. It's such a crooked system. It's disgusting.
SERFATY: Privately, a secret recording reveals his campaign is putting on a full-court press, attempting to smooth over relations with GOP party insiders. In the recording obtained by CNN, Trump's newly minted convention manager, Paul Manafort, is heard behind closed doors, telling RNC officials that the GOP front runner can and will change.
PAUL MANAFORT, CONVENTION MANAGER: Maybe you don't know, but he's sitting in a room, talking business, and talking good politics in a private room, it's a different society.
SERFATY: Manafort is heard suggesting that Trump is playing a part for the primary campaign, but he will change as the campaign moves forward.
MANAFORT: That's what's important from our standpoint. For you to understand that he gets it. That the part he's been playing has evolved into a part you've been expecting but he wasn't ready for. The image is going to change but Clinton is still going to be crooked Hillary.
SERFATY: Manafort also making the case that in a general election, Trump's vulnerabilities will be easier to address than Clintons.
MANAFORT: His campaign manager, campaign consultant, fixing personality negatives is a lot easier to fix than character negatives. You can't change somebody's character. You can change the way a person presents himself. SEN. TED CRUZ (R-TX), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: How many of y'all here
are tired of politicians lying to us?
SERFATY: Ted Cruz is seizing on the comments, saying they prove that Trump can't be trusted.
CRUZ: I will say to the millions of Americans who are frustrated with politicians who are lying to them, Donald is telling us he's lying to us.
SERFATY: As Cruz launches his attacks, Trump is ratcheting up his calls for Cruz and John Kasich to get out of the race. Saying they don't have a chance of catching him in the delegate count.
TRUMP: They should both get out.
SERFATY: And pledging that he will tone things down eventually.
TRUMP: I don't want to be too presidential yet. If I was totally presidential, we have 10,000 people here or something. I would have about 300, and you would be falling asleep after 20 minutes, OK?
SERFATY: And Senator Cruz really intensified his attacks on Donald Trump today across the board. Not only bringing up the Paul Manafort audio at every turn today, but also going over the recalibrations of the staff of the Trump campaign, and really bringing up their new hires, saying this is evidence that the Trump campaign has now become, in his words, the Washington campaign.
So, Erin, really very clearly trying to tie Donald Trump to the establishment wing of the party.
BURNETT: All right. Sunlen, thank you very much. Live from Pennsylvania tonight. Crucial state voting next week.
OUTFRONT now, the spokeswoman for the Donald Trump campaign, Katrina Pierson, ands the former deputy campaign manager for Mitt Romney, Katie Packer. She's also the chair of the Our Principles PAC, which is leading the fight against Donald Trump becoming the GOP nominee.
So, Katie, let me start with you, you just heard some of the audio there saying we're going to be seeing a different Donald Trump, an evolved Donald Trump, a more presidential Donald Trump.
[19:35:00] Do you buy it?
KATIE PACKER: I don't buy it. You know, I think Donald Trump has brought in a lot of high-priced D.C. lobbyists and operatives to come in and try to clear the path for him, to the nomination.
But, you know, I don't think a guy that's about 70 years old is somebody that's going to change his personality any time soon. I think this guy we have seen that is very brash, makes sexist, racist comments on a regular basis, is very offensive and cites violence, that's not somebody that's going to change his personality and his tone any time soon. He seems to think that it's brought him some success. And, you know,
the American people and the Republican Party aren't auditioning for a role -- auditioning somebody for a role in a reality show. This is an important role, and an important job. And these issues matter to people. And I think the lack of seriousness is really appalling.
BURNETT: Katrina, what do you say? Are you saying he can't change his personality?
KATRINA PIERSON, DONALD TRUMP CAMPAIGN SPOKESMAN: I think what we're hearing is Mr. Manafort just saying what Mr. Trump has been saying this whole time, just in his own words. Mr. Trump is a primary candidate. He has had to fight of several candidates, special interest groups, like Katie. So he is having fun at his rallies and embracing the people who are supporting him, and there is a measure of success, considering at this point, he has millions more votes than Mitt Romney did at this point.
And, of course, the campaign is growing. We're expanding. We're getting ready to move into a general election. So, yes, things will shift as the target shifts. It's a natural progression.
BURNETT: All right. So, Katrina, when it comes to tone, though, here is the Donald Trump that, Katie, I presume, is speaking about. When it comes to tone, here's the Donald Trump America knows.
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TRUMP: Lyin' Ted Cruz. Lyin' Ted. Lies. Oh, he lies. You know, Ted, he brings the bible, holds it high, sits it down, lies.
She's going to beat Obama. I don't know, how does it get worse? But she was going to beat -- she favored to win. And she got schlonged.
When Mexico sends us people, they're not sending their best. They are bringing drugs, they're bringing crime, they're rapists, and some, I assume, are good people.
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BURNETT: Katrina, things like schlonged, Lyin' Ted Cruz -- are those things going to stop?
PIERSON: Well, it's the truth. I'm not quite sure what needs to stop there as far as the rallies go. Again, these are rallies. People are excited to see him. He's excited to be out there and talk to them. He's a one-on-one person when he's with his supporters. There's nothing that's changed there. But you have also seen the Donald Trump in a more serious setting, in a more serious tone, like the AIPAC speech or when he sits down with the media and has substantive discussions.
So, we're going to continue to see the same thing. But he will also alter, because he has said, Erin, many times before -- before Mr. Manafort came on, that he can be politically correct or change his tone whenever he wants. But we are in the middle of a fight right now. We know there are
people that are trying to stop Mr. Trump from achieving the nomination so we're going to continue that fight.
BURNETT: So, Katie, is there any way you would get on board? The chairman of the RNC today, strong message for people like you, saying it's essential for victory in November that we all support our candidate. This goes for everyone.
If Donald Trump is the nominee of your party, Katie, would you support him?
PACKER: Absolutely not. Character and dignity and respect are not situational things. Having class is not a situational thing. You don't have it in some settings and not have it in other settings. You can hold a rally without degrading people and insulting people. You can have an interview without degrading women and mentioning their menstrual cycle publicly.
These are all things that are signs of a guy that has no class, no character, and is not fit to be president of the United States. And there's just no way that I can give him my vote. He hasn't earned it.
BURNETT: Well, thank you both very much. Much more on this one still to come.
Next, days before Pennsylvania's crucial primary, a side of Hillary Clinton you haven't seen until now.
And Prince's unreleased music in a vault in his secret compound. And there could be a lot of it. His close friend, Dez Dickerson, will be my guest to talk about it, whether it will ever be released.
[19:43:00] BURNETT: Tonight, Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders competing for votes in Pennsylvania. Votes Tuesday. Looking at live pictures of their dueling rallies. Clinton is about to speak in Dunmore, Pennsylvania, which is less than three miles from her birthplace in Scranton.
Our Rachel Crane went to Scranton to trace Clinton's roots.
RACHEL CRANE, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): After winning big in New York, Hillary Clinton is now focused on Pennsylvania, touting her ties to the Keystone State.
HILLARY CLINTON (D), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: I was in Scranton. I was baptized in Scranton. We spent Christmases, we spent summers.
CRANE: Reminding voters of her roots here.
HAZEL PRICE, RODHAM FAMILY FRIEND: This is our girl. This is our girl doing well. CRANE: No one remembers better than Hazel Price, the 91-year-old has
been on the scene since Hillary's birth, even longer.
PRICE: Her mother and I shopped for maternity clothes together. And I was at her christening. I held her on her christening day.
CRANE: The Rodham family lived in this house, next door to the Prices. And though Hazel hasn't seen Clinton in the past few years, she still remembers summers when Hillary's father would bring his family home to Scranton.
PRICE: This is a picture of Hillary and my children at a birthday party in my backyard. She was vivacious and gracious and a little bit stubborn. You know? And -- but really loveable. She really was.
CRANE: Hazel says this coal mining town is where Clinton's values come from.
PRICE: It's given her the background that most of us have and her father had before her, and that's to be strong person, to not take a back seat, to answer truthfully and to be right up front, and not to be afraid.
CRANE: A thought echoed by the current mayor of Scranton.
MAYOR BILL COURTRIGHT (D), SCRANTON, PENNSYLVANIA: When you talk to her, it was just as if I was talking to a neighbor, you know? Just like another Scrantonian to me.
CRANE: Despite polls saying she has a double digit lead over Bernie Sanders, Hazel says support here for Clinton is not as strong as it was in 2008, though she will be voting for Scranton's girl on Tuesday and has some words for her critics.
[19:45:10] PRICE: Put up or shut up. Put up that she did this. Or shut up and walk away. So far, they've said a lot of things and haven't proven any.
CRANE: So, Erin, we spoke with a bunch of voters, and the Hillary supporters we spoke with said it wasn't her Scranton roots that were motivating their support for her. That it was her message, her campaign, what she stood for.
But the town is somewhat divided. I mean, we did speak with Sanders voters, we spoke with Trump supporters. It's important to note it is certainly a Hillary stronghold. The polls indicate that she is expected to by double digits on Tuesday, much like she did in 2008 against President Obama.
BURNETT: All right. We shall see. Fascinating to meet that woman that you introduced us to.
Thank you, Rachel.
CRANE: Thank you.
BURNETT: And OUTFRONT next, we'll tell you why this man went out into the woods with a KKK.
Plus, he's played next to Prince him for four decades. What does he know about the vault of unreleased Prince music? Dez Dickerson is back with me.
And from Niagara falls to Broadway, the amazing tribute to the fallen star.
[19:50:12] BURNETT: The death of Prince sparked a flood of tributes around the world, befitting the man many called "The Beautiful One".
From Broadway, Jennifer Hudson and the cast of "The Color Purple" singing Prince's signature hit, "Purple Rain."
Across the United States and the world, purple lit the night sky. Niagara Falls, always magnificent with a stunning, stunning color of purple last night.
And literally, out of our world, NASA paid tribute to Prince's stardom, with this photo of the Crab Nebula lit, of course, in purple. But the most touching tribute may have been this natural rainbow at Paisley Park late yesterday afternoon after a rainstorm.
And I want to bring Dez Dickerson. He was friends with Prince for 40 years, a member of his band, The Revolution.
Dez, you and I spoke last night, and I'm grateful you're back on the show. You know, we see the tributes to Prince, a few of many all over the world. President Obama talked about him twice in London, talking about him being extraordinary.
When you hear that about your friend, someone you spent so much time performing with, how do you feel?
DEZ DICKERSON, FORMER MEMBER OF PRINCE'S BAND, "THE REVOLUTION": Well, it is staggering because it gives you a sense of the immense breadth and length of his impact and not just western culture, not just pop culture but throughout the world in terms of global culture. So, when you see heads of state taking the time to say something and speak in terms of his impact and pay tribute, it's a pretty staggering thing.
BURNETT: Now, you have known Prince for a long time. Earlier in the show we were talking to one of his protegees, Tamar Davis, talked about when she was 11 years old, went to Prince's compound, and she remembered going in the vault. She said she remembered the purple bike in there, she remembered it very well.
There's a vault, apparently there's a lot of unreleased music in there, which, of course, people in the world are desperate to hear more about. Do you have any idea, Dez, of what's in there? How many songs that exist he may have recorded that could be ready that we may eventually hear?
DICKERSON: I really, objectively, I have no idea. The thing I do know is that Prince was epically prolific and continually working, one of the reasons for having a creative center of his own was so he could in unrestricted fashion create at will. And I do know when the place was built, there was a vault for at that time master analog tapes that he meticulously archived everything.
So I have no doubt there's a wealth of unreleased material that's still in existence. The question is who is going to be in charge of releasing that content when the time comes.
BURNETT: Which will be the crucial talked about. He was so passionate about having that control and having that be in his hands. Hopefully, that is something we assume that he made sure with his passing would stay the way he wanted it to be.
Dez, thank you. Good to talk to you again.
DICKERSON: My pleasure.
BURNETT: And next, a tense meeting with the imperial wizard of the KKK.
That report is next.
[19:57:22] BURNETT: The Ku Klux Klan is alive and well in America. Our W. Kamau Bell met with the imperial wizard of the KKK. Here's what happened.
W. KAMAU BELL, UNITED SHADES OF AMERICA: All right. There's a car with the headlights on. If that's him, he'll blink his headlights. Let's go.
KKK IMPERIAL WIZARD: I'm the imperial wizard of the International Keystone Knights of the Ku Klux Klan.
BELL: I guess my first question is Klan historically as you know has been a group associated with violence.
KKK IMPERIAL WIZARD: I'm not associated with violence.
BELL: I know. What I'm saying, historically.
KKK IMPERIAL WIZARD: We're out to look at the Klan in the twenty- first century.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
BURNETT: Joining me now is the host of our new original series, "UNITED SHADES OF AMERICA", Kamau Bell.
That's a stunning moment. Were you scared?
BELL: I was absolutely scared. There's moments in the show you see my eyes get bigger, see me exhale, or my face gets tight. That's real. I'm not acting. I'm not good enough actor to do that.
BURNETT: I mean, it is unbelievable. You have this conversation with him, people will see the entire thing play out, I don't want to give it all away. You're now getting e-mails from KKK members.
BELL: Yes, a couple of ones that were there, the first one was from a guy who was like had seen the commercials, was excited to see the show come up. I been reached out to by "National Geographic", we had a lot of opportunities, and things are doing well, and I hope you didn't make us look too bad.
I was like, I think he's joking. I don't know how you would -- I don't know how you would -- I don't know how you would take it.
BURNETT: I mean, yes. Now, when you see the imperial wizard there, which is the head of the Ku Klux Klan in the United States now, I guess, did you ever see them remove their facial coverings?
BELL: When we went to the cross burning, which we went to it was really hot, like 100 degrees in Kentucky in August. Eventually, they would like -- when we weren't filming, can we take the masks off? Sure. It was a bunch of sweaty dudes.
BURNETT: They didn't mind, had no shame. When it came off, didn't change --
BELL: It was funny, it became dudes talking about the heat. It is hot under there. Yes, I bet it is.
And we were men talking about the heat on a sunny day. You know, it sort of started to make -- the whole idea for the show is to create room for more humanity. Like they can hate me if they want to, I would like they just hate me in their homes, not hate at my home. You know what I'm saying? Not come to get me, you know? Or my people.
BURNETT: Unbelievable. Well, it was absolutely stunning, courageous, incredible thing, and thank you so much for sharing a bit of it with us.
You can see much more, "UNITED SHADES OF AMERICA" with Kamau, premieres Sunday night at 10:00, right here on CNN.
Thank you for joining us.
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