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Fans Remember Prince; Bernie Sanders Returns to Campaign Trail; Donald Trump Holds Rally in Connecticut; Hillary Clinton Speaks to Small Gathering in Connecticut; High School Student Killed in Fight. Aired 2-2:30P ET

Aired April 23, 2016 - 14:00   ET

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[14:00:14] FREDRICKA WHITFIELD, CNN ANCHOR: All right, hello again every. Thanks so much for joining me. I'm Fredricka Whitfield.

The fight for the White House is heating up on both sides of the aisle, and today candidates are appealing to northeastern voters with five states up for grabs Tuesday. Right now Hillary Clinton is campaigning in New Haven, Connecticut, where she will be meeting with working families. Live shots right now.

And Bernie Sanders just wrapping a stop in Baltimore, Maryland. Meanwhile, things got a little rowdy at a Donald Trump rally in Bridgeport, Connecticut. He was interrupted several times by protestors. You see right there at least one being escorted out.

And then we've got Ted Cruz, who was in Pennsylvania this morning, determined to make it to the convention despite Donald Trump calling for him to drop out.

Chris Frates is covering the Democrats for us. Jason Carroll is covering the Republicans. So, Chris, let's begin with you first. Sanders, he's been continuing to kind of put up a fight for delegates despite a widening gap between he and Hillary Clinton. But he says he is not throwing in the towel as yet.

CHRIS FRATES, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Yes, that's exactly right, Fred. In fact, both Sanders and Clinton are crisscrossing the east coast today, and Sanders, well, he's hitting Clinton for her positions or trade, fracking, and, really no surprise her, her big money donors.

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BERNIE SANDERS, PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: One of the differences between Secretary Clinton and myself, and it's a profound difference, is how we have chosen to raise money for our campaigns.

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SANDERS: If we understand that super PAC are the vehicle by which Wall Street and billionaires are able to buy elections, your damn right, we don't need a super PAC. We don't want a super PAC.

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FRATES: That was Sanders in Baltimore just this afternoon, and yesterday Clinton and Sanders spent their day at dueling events in Pennsylvania. It was a little bit of a homecoming for Hillary Clinton who campaigned near Scranton where her father was born and where she spent time during the summer. She wove in plenty of local references but mostly stayed away from going after Sanders, instead aiming her fire at Donald Trump, hitting him for his proposal to temporarily ban Muslims from entering the country.

And a new poll in Pennsylvania showing that Clinton is leading Sanders there by almost 30 points. Now, Sanders is campaigning in Maryland and Delaware today. Clinton, she's in Connecticut and Rhode Island. Those are all states that vote on Tuesday, Fred.

WHITFIELD: And then Chris, as you were talking, we have live pictures right now of Hillary Clinton walking into this location here in New Haven, Connecticut, and what strakes me is the intimacy of this gathering. Yes, Connecticut a very small state. I actually used to live in New Haven, Connecticut. But the setting there really does say face time, individual handshakes. She's going around the room right now. And it's almost as if she has in this case kind of paring down the event to deliver what's expected to likely be a very big message, one that she would hope would resonate with the voters. Is there anything more to this kind of strategy or this approach, this intimate sitting in a very small state like Connecticut?

FRATES: You know, she has started her campaign kind of doing these smaller events, and you kind of see her getting back to that because she very good with voters on a one-on-one, and that helps particularly with local press coverage says it helps show her in a good light. Hillary Clinton not one who did the big rallies like Bernie Sanders. And its' interesting because Sanders continues to try to engage Hillary Clinton, try to draw distinctions. And you're seeing kind of Hillary turn away and turn to Republicans and Donald Trump here. And that's no surprise. This allows her to do that. This is not a big rally where she's going to talk about big ideas. She's going to meet with voters here and get these pictures and really kind of connect one on one and try to do what she needs to do, which is really connect with voters and make herself likable, make herself somebody a voter wants to have a beer with, Fred.

WHITFIELD: All right, Chris Frates, thanks so much.

We're going to listen in on anything happening there in what appears to be a little diner, a restaurant setting. Of course when we get a little bit more information -- do we have time to listen to that right now? OK. We're going to come back to her. We're going to monitor a little bit and get a sense what people are asking her and what is she saying to them.

All right, meantime, the Republican side, Donald Trump held two back- to-back rallies today in Connecticut. Trump's new delegate guru Paul Manafort telling CNN that we will soon see more toned down, kind of more presidential Trump on the campaign trail. Let's bring in CNN's Jason Carroll at the rally in Bridgeport. And so it was a little exciting there, wasn't it? Not just because of the entertainment value of Donald Trump, because he was certainly kind of shucking it up there, wasn't he? But you had a couple folk whose were demonstrating or protesting, and they were let out?

[14:05:14] JASON CARROLL, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Yes. We've seen that before. What would a Trump rally be with a little bit of excitement? Trump has said that himself. He said his rallies are the most fun out there going right now.

We've heard much about Trump and the need to be more presidential. That was not the case here in Bridgeport, not the case earlier today in Connecticut as well. Not the case if you consider calling your opponent Ted Cruz someone who lies like a thief and is boring. Those were just some of the things he said about Cruz. He saved some of his criticisms for Kasich as well, making fun of the way that he says and spells his name.

I mean, you've heard from Paul Manafort, he said earlier at that RNC meeting in Florida that what you're going to see is a different -- a different Trump privately versus publicly, that there's a different way that he acts when he's private. That the campaign will evolve. That the candidate will evolve as well. Trump talked about that here. He also talked about calls for him to be more presidential.

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DONALD TRUMP, (R) PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: When I'm in a room talking, you're one way. When I'm out here talking to you people I got to be different. I can say basically the same thing.

I sort of don't like toning it down. You know? We keep the -- I'm going to talk about that in a second, because it's interesting. Isn't it nice that I'm not one of these teleprompter guys where you come and --

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TRUMP: Well, first of all, if I was, I'd have an audience of about three people here in the front. This is the biggest crowd in the history of the school. When I'm in a room talking, you're one way. When I'm out here talking to you people I got to be different, right? I can say basically the same thing.

So Paul said, no. He's different when he's in a room, and then he goes out and speaks it's different. And then if he gives policy, that's different. We all have, like, we're smart people. You act differently.

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CARROLL: So Fredricka, bottom line going forward, look for Trump to be more like Trump, at least when out at public events like we've seen here in Connecticut. Fredricka?

WHITFIELD: Jason Carroll, thank you so much from Bridgeport.

Meantime overseas new developments on a stunning story involving North Korea. U.S. Strategic Command said it tracked a submarine launched ballistic missile fired by the north. Officials in South Korea say the missile flew about 19 miles before dropping into the sea. One U.S. official said they are watching it very closely and, quote, "North Korea's sub launch capability has gone from a joke to something very serious," end quote. We're going to continue to monitor this story, and we'll be right back.

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[14:11:21] WHITFIELD: All right, live and talking right now, Hillary Clinton in a very intimate setting there in New Haven, Connecticut. Let's listen in.

HILLARY CLINTON, (D) PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: -- because we have to get incomes raised and we need to give more people the chance to, you know, get out into the economy and make the choices they think are best for them and their families.

We also have work to do to create more good jobs. And I think our real emphasis has to be on infrastructure jobbed. Our roads, our bridges, our tunnels, our ports, our airports, our water systems, what we can't see as well as what we do see. We have great work to be done. These are jobs that cannot be exported, and these are good union jobs in most instances and they are good middle-class jobs.

We also need to do more to bring back advantaged manufacturing, and there are lots of ways of doing that, because right now we have 1.2 million jobs that are waiting to be filled by people with advanced skills in the trades, welders, machinists, tool and dye makers and the like. And so we've got to get a better fit between people's interests, their job prospects, and the jobs that we need done in our society.

And we should be doing more to combat climate change by emphasizing clean renewable energy jobs. And some nation is going to be the 21st clean energy super power. It's either going to be China, Germany, or us, and it should be us. And that would bring just a flood of new jobs and everything from energy efficiency to wind to solar power and so much else.

We also need to do more to support small businesses like the one we're in right now. We were for the longest time the leader in small business creation in our country, and now we aren't anymore. We've got too much red tape and too much problems with getting access to credit and being able to start and continue and grow a job, particularly true for minority and women-owned businesses. And since new jobs come from small businesses, we have a big stake in helping to generate a revival in small businesses. So these are some of the things that I am very focused on.

WHITFIELD: All right, Hillary Clinton there stumping in New Haven, Connecticut, ahead of primaries in five states on Tuesday. We'll be right back. (COMMERCIAL BREAK)

[14:17:32] WHITFIELD: All right, fights in high school happen, but not like this one. A 16-year-old honor roll student died after a brawl in a bathroom at Howard High Schools in Wilmington, Delaware. Our Rachel Crane is following the story.

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RACHEL CRANE, CNN DIGITAL CORRESPONDENT: A community still reeling after the death of 16-year-old Amy Joyner Francis, assaulted in her high school bathroom.

REV. MARGARET GUY, COMMUNITY MEMBER: It seems like every time we have to come out like this that somebody's lost a child. Somebody's lost a loved one. You know? It's -- it's just too much. You know, it's entirely too much.

CRANE: The incident happened Thursday morning as classes began at Howard High School of Technology in Delaware, according to officials. Investigators say a fight broke out between Amy and another student, and others quickly joined in. Amy was airlifted to a local children's hospital where she was pronounced dead. Her family and friends are trying to make sense of their loss.

SHERRY DORSEY WALKER, FAMILY SPOKESPERSON: She was a wonderful young lady, and the fact that she's gone, it really affects us tremendously. She made a huge difference in society, and we need more young people like that.

CRANE: According to police, two people were brought in for questioning. Authorities do not believe weapons were involved. The case is still under investigation, but that brings little comfort to Amy's family.

WALKER: This is not a young lady who was involved in street activity. This is an honor roll student, manager of the wrestling team, whose mother and father were very engaged in her life as well as her siblings.

CRANE: Some students say the fight was over a boy, but the exact cause of the deadly altercation is still a mystery.

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WHITFIELD: And Rachel joins us now. So the community, they're really heart-stricken by this, aren't they?

CRANE: Oh, certainly, and on Thursday evening a vigil was held in her honor, and there's been an outpouring of love and support and grieving from her family, from her friends, from the community. But it's not just isolated to Delaware. The #justiceforamy has received thousands of posts on Twitter, Instagram, and on Facebook. Fred?

WHITFIELD: All right, Rachel Crane, thank you so much.

And we'll be right back.

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[14:23:43] WHITFIELD: The memorial at Paisley Park is growing as hundreds of fans continue gathering outside his home and recording studio. It is also the place where Prince died. And behind those walls at Paisley Park, legend has it that -- and it's really more than legend. There are fellow artists who are saying he has a vault of unreleased music in that house. CNN Money media reporter Frank Pallotta joining me now. So Frank, let's talk about this music. It has been known for a very long time. Prince has talked about how he has written so much material, too much material to release at once. So what do you suppose is going to happen to that unreleased material, how it will be dispensed, or will we ever hear it?

FRANK PALLOTTA, CNN MONEY MEDIA REPORTER: Well, that vault is kind of what I like to call a musical big foot. It exists but no one's really seen it. And no one really knows where it is going to go because he doesn't have any children, he doesn't have a wife. He's had multiple business managers over his years and multiple labels. So his estate is as mysterious as Prince was in life.

But there is a good chance that there is up to 70 percent reportedly of unreleased music Prince made over his prolific 40-year career that could possibly be in that vault.

[14:25:02] WHITFIELD: Oh, my goodness. That is amazing. And he just was a prolific writer and would just write, write. So now one has to think of all of his material, you know, some of the material that was released in recent years that he wrote very early in his life, but he just made decisions about the timing in which to release certain material, whether it was based on kind of the sign of the times, so to speak, to borrow a phrase from him in his music.

PALLOTTA: Yes.

WHITFIELD: What more do you know about how he me those decisions?

PALLOTTA: Well, perfect example as you look at his legendary dustup with Warner Brothers back in 1993 when he changed his name to an unpronounceable symbol. A huge part of that was that Warner Brothers was trying to slow him down, trying to not saturate the market with more Prince music. And Prince being ever in control of his artistry just kept pushing it out. And that's why he changed.

WHITFIELD: Incredible. Frank Pallotta, thank you so much. And I love the purple.

PALLOTTA: Thank you.

WHITFIELD: For more of Frank's reporting visit CNNmoney.com.

So there are so many hits, so many memories, in fact I brought in a tiny, just a tiny representation of my own Prince music collection. I never met Prince in person, but from growing up and listening to his music, I feel like I had such a connection. I know many of you do, too. In fact, I met my husband at one of Prince's clubs. And guess what? We married in 1999.

So earlier today had a chance to sit down and reflect with someone who actually knew Prince personally, gospel great Bebe Winans. We talked about that wonderful impact Prince had and how the muse behind the music was his faith.

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BEBE WINANS, GOSPEL RECORDING ARTIST: That, to me, is the beauty of someone like Prince, and Natalie Cole and others that we've lost. They leave us with this joy of music, and music as a way of -- we see our lives through their music.

WHITFIELD: So true. It's a journey. Isn't it?

WINANS: It's a journey. and I -- you know, I am a big Prince fan. I never met him, and one day I'm going into this building and I saw this person walk away from the entrance. He had a powder blue suit on. And I said, that looked like Prince, but I kept on going.

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WINANS: Exactly. He was fashion, you know? And then I heard my name called, and out comes -- out of the car comes Prince. You know, that right there said something to me about his character, that he would think enough to come out of his car instead of calling me to his. And just was so honest and in what our music meant to him and how much he enjoyed us. And in return it's like -- you never know who is listening. So right then and there it was a pleasure. And then a couple of times we had a chance to sit and talk. Just an incredible guy. Prince was unselfish. It wasn't just about him. It was about all of us, you know? And so we appreciate that, and we celebrate him, you know, this day and for the rest of our lives.

WHITFIELD: We really do, and we are all celebrating in so many different ways. I'm a huge Prince fan. I have a giant collection.

WINANS: I see you have the purple on.

WHITFIELD: I have purple on. I brought in some of my CDs. This is just a tiny sample. We have LPs at home. We've got cassette players because my first car had a cassette. And I have a number of favorites from "Do Me, Baby" and "Diamonds and Pearls." Do you have a favorite, and do you have music that your family would allow you to play?

WINANS: You know, my brother, Ronald, who we celebrate in the music -- we celebrate Whitney as well in the musical we're just launching. But one of the things, my father would never allow anything other than gospel in our household. So my brother Ronald would change the lyrics. One of the ones he changed lyrics to, we would sing "ladder rain, ladder rain, ladder rain, ladder rain, lord, we want you, need you asking you to send your rain." So instead of. "Purple rain," we sang "ladder rain."

WHITFIELD: So beautiful. Thank you so much.

WINANS: Thank you. Thank you. And we want to continue to send his blessings to the family and to all the world.

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WHITFIELD: Oh, my gosh. The purple tears were flowing. That was incredible. Bebe Winans, thank you so much. And of course you can catch the entire interview with Bebe Winans on CNN.com.

Thanks so much for being with us this hour in the newsroom. I'm Fredricka Whitfield. "Vital Signs with Dr. Sanjay Gupta" begins right now.