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[10:00:01] CAROL COSTELLO, CNN ANCHOR: Thank you, Brian.

STELTER: Thank you.

COSTELLO: The next hour of CNN NEWSROOM starts now.

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COSTELLO: Happening now in the NEWSROOM, divide and conquer. Cruz and Kasich's new plan, team up to stop Trump.

SEN. TED CRUZ (R), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: 65 percent to 70 percent of Republicans nationwide recognize that Donald Trump is not the best candidate to go head to head with Hillary Clinton.

DONALD TRUMP (R), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: I'm winning by millions and millions of votes. I'm winning by 300 -- almost 300 delegates.

COSTELLO: And is he about to rack up even more? Five states voting Tuesday.

And Hillary Clinton looking ahead to November.

HILLARY CLINTON (D), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: When you hear what Trump and Cruz say, it's not only offensive. It's dangerous.

COSTELLO: But Bernie Sanders says she's got to get past him first.

SEN. BERNIE SANDERS (D), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: We are going to fight for every last vote until the -- until California and the D.C. primary.

COSTELLO: Plus --

BARACK OBAMA, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: I have approved the deployment of up to 250 additional U.S. personnel in Syria, including special forces to keep up this momentum.

COSTELLO: More American troops. But they won't lead the fight. Will they?

Let's talk. Live in the CNN NEWSROOM.

(END VIDEOTAPE) COSTELLO: And good morning. I'm Carol Costello. Thank you so much for joining me.

Within minutes we expect to hear from Ted Cruz and John Kasich as they hold their first campaign stop since last night's bombshell announcement.

These are live pictures from inside a diner in Philadelphia. We're expecting to hear from Kasich very soon. Reporters will be there to ask him questions and we'll be very interested to hear his answers.

The two presidential candidates have formed a historic alliance with one goal, that is John Kasich and Ted Cruz. They want to derail Trump's march to the nomination and they want to do it together. The strategic move explained by Cruz's campaign manager, quote, "Having Donald Trump at the top of the ticket in November would be a sure disaster for Republicans, and adding, quote, "having him as our nominee would set the party back a generation."

CNN's Chris Frates is in Philadelphia to tell us more. Good morning.

CHRIS FRATES, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Hey, good morning, Carol. And you're right. This really is an extraordinary deal between John Kasich and Ted Cruz. It's a nonaggression pact of sorts where they're really trying to divide and conquer to beat Donald Trump.

Here is how it will work. John Kasich has agreed to cede Indiana to Ted Cruz. And if you look at the polls there you can start to understand why. Donald Trump is leading both John Kasich and Ted Cruz by double digits in polls there, but if Kasich gets out and it goes head-to-head, Donald Trump versus Ted Cruz, it's a statistical dead heat and that gives Cruz a chance of picking up those 57 delegates in the winner-take-all primary there, and that could go a long way to stopping Donald Trump from getting to that magic number of 1237 that he needs to clinch the nomination.

Now, similarly, Ted Cruz saying he's not going to compete against John Kasich in Oregon and New Mexico. That allows Kasich to try to run up the score a little bit against Donald Trump and get more delegates because both Cruz and John Kasich are virtually -- it's mathematically impossible for them to get to 1237. They're both banking on going to Cleveland and getting the nomination out of a contested convention.

Now of course, Donald Trump not happy about this news at all. Sounding off on Twitter. In fact, he tweeted just this morning, Carol, I want to read it to you. He said, quote, "Shows how weak and desperate Lyin' Ted is when he has to team with a guy who openly can't stand him and has only one win and 38 losses."

Now this deal also gives Donald Trump some more ammunition on the campaign trail. He's been complaining this is a rigged and crooked system, and now he's saying that Cruz and Kasich are teaming up to collude against him.

Take a listen to how he put it just yesterday on the trail, Carol.

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TRUMP: Cruz is going, and he's wining and dining and dinner in hotels and all this stuff. He's bribing people, essentially, to vote. Now he can't do it in the first ballot because they're locked into me in the first ballot.

I just read an article that Cruz is working really hard to -- I don't want to use the word bribe, but to bribe the delegates from all over the place.

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FRATES: So the one thing that remains to be seen here is whether or not the supporters get behind the candidates' plan. Do Kasich folks in Indiana vote for Cruz and do Cruz folks in Oregon and New Mexico get behind Kasich to try to stop Donald Trump? That's something that we're going to have to watch very, very closely, but these two guys teaming up to take on Donald Trump and we're getting ready for John Kasich to stop here in Philadelphia and we're going to ask him all about it, Carol.

COSTELLO: OK. I'll let you get inside that diner, Chris. Chris Frates, thanks so much.

All right. So let's discuss you all of this with our guests. I'm joined by the editor-in-chief of the "Daily Beast" John Avlon and the political anchor for New York One News, Errol Louis.

Welcome to both of you.

ERROL LOUIS, CNN POLITICAL COMMENTATOR: Good morning.

JOHN AVLON, CNN POLITICAL ANALYST: Good morning, Carol.

COSTELLO: Good morning. So, Errol, is this divide-and-conquer strategy going to work?

[10:05:03] LOUIS: Well, the answer is a definite maybe, Carol. They probably should have -- there are a couple of things missing. If they want this to work, first of all, they should have started sooner. Secondly, there is a real question about how much of this is going to filter down to both the local leadership in these various states and then, of course, there are the voters, you know, who are often talked about as if they can be easily manipulated.

The reality is they've got to make the case for why this is necessary why this is important for their vision of where the party is supposed to end up, and that means talking with these party activists, and that's who really sort of comes out during a primary, about what's likely to happen with the rest of the ticket. What's going to happen to the rest of the party if Trump is the nominee.

They've already made this case over and over again, but a lot of people haven't been paying attention. They've really got to go and make a solid case for why voters should do something as unusual as what they're asking Republican voters to do. COSTELLO: Well, John, Trump calls this collusion. Is it?

AVLON: Yes, it absolutely is collusion. It's the textbook definition of collusion. Two parties are back-channeling to coordinate an ornate game of keep away from Donald Trump. Presumably because they think it's the best thing for their party and the country but obviously I'm going to go out on a limb and say self interest is involved here, Carol.

Look, I mean, you know, we have had nonaggression pacts in the past and the Republican Party is in warlord status. So right now each of these heads of competing tribes, Kasich and Cruz, have concluded that their best hope for stopping Trump is that the enemy of -- the enemy of my enemy is my friend and they are subtlety and oddly in bed together trading states, but Donald Trump has a right to call it out for what it is. This is a form of collusion to keep the nomination from going to the Donald.

COSTELLO: So, Errol, John brings up a good point. So John Kasich is way behind. He's only won one state and if he cares so deeply about Donald Trump getting the nomination, why doesn't he just drop out?

LOUIS: Well, clearly by running for president this life-long public servant has made clear to the public that he thinks there's something greater for him out there, and if it's not president, maybe it's chair of the RNC, maybe it's a vice presidential slot, maybe it's a cabinet position. All of those things are open and available to him, and it doesn't make sense if you're going to try and bargain for any of those things, including, you know, there's still a long shot chance he could become the Republican nominee. He's got a case to make and he wants to make it.

So all of those things are reasons why it would be very early for Kasich to sort of throw in his cards. He's got a lot of cards to play and we can look forward to him playing them in his home state.

COSTELLO: Here is the thing though, John, if I'm a voter, right, and l really don't like Ted Cruz but I really like John Kasich, am I really going to vote for Ted Cruz to please John Kasich so Donald Trump doesn't get the nomination in the hopes that John Kasich makes it all the way to the convention so that he can win there?

AVLON: I don't think the average voters going to be engaging in deep game theory. I agree with you. People should vote their conscience but what it's really about is the campaigns trying to save money relatively and to retrench into states where they think they can do well. Tomorrow is the Acela form of primaries. It's John Kasich who is in second in most of the polls, not Ted Cruz, and Kasich obviously feels that he can have a role to play. He is the last man standing among what used to be the heart of the party, the center right, and so he's going to be part of some kind of formulation in this horse dealing.

I don't know if I agree with Errol that, you know, John Kasich's fondest dream or the dream of young children everywhere is to become the chairman of the RNC. That seems like a punishment to me but we'll see what kind of horse trading goes on.

COSTELLO: OK. I hear that Kasich is pulling up to this diner in Philadelphia and, of course, we're hoping that he takes questions immediately from reporters because, you know, we're so eager to get some answers from him because just yesterday these candidates were actually, you know, attacking one another and late Sunday night they both come out with these statements that they're now going to join forces to defeat Donald Trump.

And, of course, in Pennsylvania John Kasich is doing better than Ted Cruz, so I guess I would assume that Ted Cruz wants John Kasich to win Pennsylvania. I don't know. It's really confusing, right? But really they're focusing on the Indiana primary because Ted Cruz is very close to Donald Trump in Indiana, and if John Cruz tell his -- John Kasich tells Ted Cruz supporters to vote for Ted Cruz, it is possible that Ted Cruz could pull ahead of Donald Trump and could actually win the state of Indiana with their, what, 57 delegates? 57 delegates up for grabs in Indiana.

Let's watch as John Kasich walks into this diner in Philadelphia.

KASICH: Thank you, all.

COSTELLO: All right. You can see he has some supporters in this diner.

KASICH: Are you here with your dad for breakfast?

[10:10:03] What is your name? Does she have a name?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Nadia.

KASICH: Nadia, let me ask you a question. What is your baby's name? Cupcake. That's such a great name. Did you put that on there? Cupcake. Doesn't that look like cupcake? Look at this little girl. Do you want to come over here and give me a little snuggle. My daughters are at home and I haven't been able to get a snuggle from them. Can you give me a snuggle? Can you smile for the cameras? You want to -- you got it, sweetheart. OK. I won't take Cupcake. Cupcake is going to eat a little bacon. Yes. I'm going to teach you about better nutrition which is what my wife is screaming at me about. All right.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Good luck.

KASICH: Thank you. What do you do?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I'm a maintenance supervisor.

KASICH: Are you?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes.

KASICH: You look like you got some guns.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I work out, too. KASICH: Do you?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes.

KASICH: What do you bench?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: 275.

KASICH: That's pretty good. How about squat? You know I'm leg pressing 325. But I don't squat but I leg press. 325. All right. I got to eat. Excuse me, all. Thank you. How are you? Am I sitting here? Hi.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We're going to shake some hands before we sit at the counter.

KASICH: OK. How are you? Do you have a name?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I'm Julianne.

KASICH: Do you have a last name?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Goodman. We're part of Penn.

KASICH: Yes. I taught at Penn for about a year. Did you know that? Yes, I did. I was in -- what's it called? The something school. What's the school? No, no, no, at Penn. It's called the -- I can't remember. Anyway, I was there. Yes, I liked it. It was great. Good school. Thank you.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Hello, Governor.

KASICH: How are you? What are you guys doing in here? You're supposed to be working.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes. We're off today.

KASICH: You're off?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We're off.

KASICH: What are you doing? What do you do?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We work for (INAUDIBLE).

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KASICH: Bring that kid in here. You work for FedEx.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes.

KASICH: Great job.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Can I get a picture of you, please? KASICH: No, it costs money to get pictures with me. Yes. Just sit

here. Do you got a camera?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: So how are things going?

KASICH: They're going fine. All right. I'm worried about Steph Curry. Do you guys follow basketball? And Kyrie Irving, wow.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes. Absolutely.

KASICH: On fire, huh? Great, guys.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Governor, nice meeting you.

KASICH: Thank you very much. Good to see you, guys. Thank you. Do you guys play golf? I played golf yesterday early in the morning and I really stunk. I'm trying. Look at all those beautiful children.

Hey, good morning. Good. I've never seen this spot.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Philadelphia.

KASICH: Yes, man, I know it. How are you?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Mind if we get a picture?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I actually made phone calls for you last week.

KASICH: You did?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You're the only candidate that can win in November.

KASICH: Well, it's important to get in there and then do something to fix the country. What's the point of getting in if you don't do nothing, right? Thank you. Hi, ladies.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Mr. Kasich.

KASICH: Hi.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Hi.

KASICH: How are you? How are you?

COSTELLO: All right. So you get the gist of what John Kasich is doing. He's walking through this diner, cameras rolling, greeting supporters there, taking pictures with them.

I want to bring back in Errol Louis and John Avlon. This is effective, right? I think this was born out of the Hillary Clinton subway thing here in New York, right? That you do this kind of stuff live, and it gets coverage on national television, and that's a good thing, John.

AVLON: Yes. Look, I mean, you know, retail politics is the backbone of it. You get a sense of people's -- the candidates' character and their ability to relate to real people, most of them live in a bubble and among other things I learned that John Kasich apparently can leg press but not squat 325. A lot of sports talk from Mr. Kasich at the diner.

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COSTELLO: It was cute with the little girl and a baby doll. Right? She started to give her baby doll a piece of bacon and John Kasich says, I'm going to have to teach you about nutrition. But seriously, Errol Louis, this is -- you know, here's John Kasich campaigning really hard, and yet he's going to ask voters in Indiana not to vote for him. It's just weird.

[10:15:05] LOUIS: Well, I mean, one little pro tip, by the way, I didn't hear him in any of those encounters actually ask the people to vote for him, which is something, you know, probably ought to tack that on. I'm running for president, would you please vote for me? But other than that I think it was very effective.

Look, he, I think, is going to be talking to party activists or his staff will be to the extent that this really becomes an issue. I also though -- I wouldn't discount the value of trying to impress upon voters what it is you want them to do. You know, and whether it's in a diner encounter or in a speech or in what they put out through social media and everywhere else, you've really got to explain to voters what it is you're asking them to do and why, and, frankly, I don't know if it's that far of a stretch to ask people, hey, vote for this other guy in Indiana because we've got a common mission, and that mission is to rescue the party from the current frontrunner.

It's a difficult task, but you've got to ask, and let's assume that the voters are smart enough to figure it out, especially primary voters who presumably care about the party and where it's going.

COSTELLO: Maybe you're right. I guess we'll just have to see, as they say.

Errol Louis, John Avlon, thanks to both of you.

I got to take a break. We'll be back with much more in the NEWSROOM.

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[10:20:24] COSTELLO: All right. The candidates are busy out there stumping. As you can see, John Kasich is in that diner in Philadelphia speaking with voters. We expect him to talk with reporters at any time about his new partnership with Ted Cruz. Both men joining forces to defeat Donald Trump.

When Governor Kasich starts answering questions from reporters, of course we'll take you back live to Philadelphia.

Let's talk about the Democrats now, shall we? A clean sweep across the northeast. That's what Hillary Clinton is hoping for. When the polls close tomorrow after the next round of Democratic primaries. Both Clinton and Sanders are on the trail this morning.

CNN's Jason Carroll is in Hagerstown, Maryland, one of five states voting tomorrow. Hi, Jason.

JASON CARROLL, CNN NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: And good morning to you, Carol. As you know, Clinton is set for some big wins if she's able to sweep all five states tomorrow. Even so, Bernie Sanders and his team, they're not giving up. And, in fact, something that's trending on Twitter, #Bernieorbust. His supporters staying in it. Bernie Sanders himself saying at least through California he intends to stay with it.

Look, he's got the message. He's got the money and he's got the enthusiasm. If you look at what's happening out there in Hartford, Connecticut, still drawing thousands of people out there at the campaign. He's got all those things going for him, but what he doesn't have, Carol, clearly is the path to the nomination. Clinton knows that. That's why in many of her ads she is going after not just Donald Trump, going after Ted Cruz as well. Even saying over the weekend what Trump and Cruz say is not just offensive, it is dangerous. Again not just referring to Trump but also referring to Cruz as well.

Clinton will be out campaigning for her part as well today. She'll be in Delaware. She'll also be in Pennsylvania. The Clinton camp calling on the Sanders camp at this point to tone down the rhetoric. This after one of Sanders' surrogates, actress Rosario Dawson referenced Monica Lewinsky during a campaign speech over the weekend. So both candidates still out there. Sanders saying despite the fact that he has a very, very narrow path to the nomination, he's going to continue on with the message, continue on with his followers -- Carol?

COSTELLO: All right. Jason Carroll, reporting live from Hagerstown, Maryland, this morning. Thank you.

Another sign election 2016 is like no other, Charles Koch, Republican kingmaker, says he could possibly support Hillary Clinton.

Did you feel the earth shift? Hear it for yourself.

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UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: So is it possible another Clinton could be better than another Republican next time around?

CHARLES KOCH, CEO, KOCH INDUSTRIES: It's possible. It's possible.

UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: You couldn't see yourself supporting Hillary Clinton, could you?

KOCH: Well, her -- we would have to believe her actions would be quite different than her rhetoric. Let me put it that way. On some of the Republican candidates we would have to believe their actions would be quite different than the rhetoric we've heard so far.

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COSTELLO: Another twist or rather a twist we all expected but not from a Democrat, Monica Lewinsky, she is now campaign fodder thanks to Sanders' surrogate, the actress Rosario Dawson.

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ROSARIO DAWSON, ACTRESS, BERNIE SANDERS SUPPORTER: We are really fending for ourselves right now. We are literally under attack for not just supporting the other candidate. Now I'm with Monica Lewinsky with this. Bullying is bad. She's actually dedicated her life now to talking about that and now as a campaign strategy we are being bullied.

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COSTELLO: With me now to talk about this and more, Nomiki Konst, Bernie Sanders supporter and former at-large member of the DNC, and Bakari Sellers, a Hillary Clinton supporter and CNN political commentator.

Welcome to both of you.

OK. Let's -- hi, let's jump right in, shall we? Nomiki, I'd like you to listen to how Bernie Sanders responded to the Lewinsky comment on Jake Tapper's show.

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JAKE TAPPER, CNN ANCHOR: Do you think it's appropriate for your surrogates to be talking about Monica Lewinsky on the campaign trail?

SANDERS: We have many, many -- Rosario is a great actress and she's doing a great job for us, and she's been a passionate fighter to see that we increase the voter turnout, that we fight for racial, economic, environmental justice.

TAPPER: But yes or no, should your surrogates be talking about Monica Lewinsky?

SANDERS: I have no idea in what context Rosario was talking about her. I would hope that all of our people focus on the real issues facing working people and the massive level of income and wealth inequality that we have.

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COSTELLO: OK. So as we watch Bernie Sanders campaign in Hartford, Connecticut, we'll see that shortly.

Nomiki, is Senator Sanders secretly OK with Dawson's comments? NOMIKI KONST, BERNIE SANDERS SUPPORTER: I don't think there's any

secret agenda here. I think that Bernie Sanders is very focused on campaigning and he's not always there for every speech. Now listen, I know Rosario and she's one of the most dedicated, intelligent, surrogates, activists in Hollywood out there. She understands not just the issues, the policies in depth, but she understands the mechanics of Washington. She's the founder of Voto Latino, an organization that --

COSTELLO: So why did she bring up Monica Lewinsky?

KONST: I'll explain that to you. So Correct the Record, which is an organization that supports Hillary Clinton -- in correcting the record on Hillary Clinton. Just put a million dollars more into, and they published this on their Web site, they put $1 million into buying Internet trolls to attack Bernie Sanders' supporters. I mean, I have been getting them. This is outrageous. They're trying to create their own propaganda campaign right now to take down Bernie Sanders' supporters online.

They press released this. Yahoo.com has written about this. The "Daily Beast" has written about this. This is what this campaign has come to. They're trying to shame Bernie Sanders' supporters into supporting Hillary Clinton. And I think that's a bad campaign tactics.

COSTELLO: So Bakari -- Bakari, is that what Clinton supporters are trying to do, shame Bernie Sanders supporters into supporting Hillary Clinton?

BAKARI SELLERS, CNN POLITICAL COMMENTATOR: Not at all. I think that, in fact, most Hillary Clinton supporters, including myself, are trying to bring this party together because we know that this race politically is over, and I have actually read the Correct the Record Web site --

COSTELLO: But Nomiki is right. This is happening online. This is happening online.

SELLERS: And it's happening from both sides. And it's happening from both sides, Carol. And both sides need to tone it down. But one thing that I have to say about the comments is that Rosario Dawson's comments lowered the level of discourse, they were catty, and they had no place in this political commentary.

If in fact she wanted to highlight bullying or something of that sort, even though I'm not -- you know, I believe that both sides need to tone it down, she could have gone -- she could have drawn a contrast with the White House anti-bullying proposals or anything, but to bring up Monica Lewinsky was below the pale and it lowered the discourse and it should be -- Bernie Sanders should stand up and say that's not appropriate. This is -- like his surrogate, Senator Markey from Oregon said this morning.

COSTELLO: Well, you know, the worry here is, Nomiki, that if Hillary Clinton is the nominee, you know Donald Trump is going to bring up Monica Lewinsky and now we have a Bernie Sanders surrogate already bringing up Monica Lewinsky, and it's possible that Donald Trump could use that.

KONST: Well, listen, I mean, we're getting distracted by the chitter- chatter of the campaign and not talking about issues. You know, what Rosario Dawson spent most of her speech talking about was income inequality and let's be fair here. I mean, Monica Lewinsky has dedicated her life to anti-bullying and you can spin it all you want, but the reality is that the Hillary Clinton campaign and the super PACs are spending money on targeting Bernie Sanders supporters while they claim that they want to unify the party.

Even Brian Fallon himself is attacking people on Twitter. That's the press secretary for the Hillary Clinton campaign. Now listen, like, Bernie Sanders supporters, there is a path to victory. Both candidates need to hit 2384 pledged delegates and we're tied in California right now and on that path with the margins of the next five races, even if Hillary Clinton is to win the next five states, because she didn't pick up 100 more pledged delegates in New York, there is no path to victory for either candidate and it's going to go to the convention.

COSTELLO: Well --

KONST: So they want to spin it all they want --

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SELLERS: That's absurd.

COSTELLO: Some analysts totally disagree with you, Nomiki, like totally, but let's --

KONST: It's tied in California. There's 475 delegates.

SELLERS: That's absurd. I mean, that's just not -- that's not true. That's not reality. It's absurd. In fact the fact of the matter is --

KONST: 538.com.

SELLERS: Again, the race is -- the race is politically over. The fact of the matter is that neither did Barack Obama going into the convention have enough delegates without superdelegates, and Hillary Clinton --

KONST: Superdelegates technically don't matter until the end, Bakari.

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SELLERS: Hillary Clinton is going to go into the convention with the most pledged delegates. The person with the most pledged delegates should win. But Nomiki, I will give you this, I think both candidates, I think both candidates, their surrogates and their supporters, if in fact we're going to tackle Donald Trump and Ted Cruz in November need to tone it down. We need to work on trying to bring this party together but I do believe comments like Democratic core, bringing up Monica Lewinsky are below the pale, and I'm not going to get in the mud with you or Rosario or anybody else. I don't think that we should do that.

COSTELLO: All right. I got to leave it there.

KONST: So if Brian Fallon --

COSTELLO: I got to leave it there, Nomiki.

KONST: -- is doing this online --

COSTELLO: I got to leave it there. Nomiki Konst, Bakari Sellers, thank you so much.

And of course the candidates are out on the stump and especially the Republicans because they'll have to answer a lot of interesting questions today.

On the left-hand side of your screen of course John Kasich he's campaigning at a diner in Philadelphia. Ted Cruz on your right. Where is this campaign rally? Is this in Indiana? Michelle? In Indiana. OK. So we're going to keep an eye on both of these rallies and be back with much more in the NEWSROOM.

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