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[11:00:13] LYNDA KINKADE: Countdown to Rio with 100 days to go until the games. We're covering the torch ceremony in Athens. And the problems
facing Brazil where the torch will be headed soon. Will Rio be ready?
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DONALD TRUMP, 2016 REPUBLICAN PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: I consider myself the presumptive nominee, absolutely.
Senator Cruz and Governor Kasich should really get out of the race.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
KINKADE: After another big night, Donald Trump is brushing aside his Republican rivals and gearing up with a showdown with Hillary Clinton in
the race for the White House. We're live in Washington just ahead.
Hello. I'm Lynda Kinkade in for Becky Anderson. The 100 day countdown to the Olympic Games in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil is officially
underway. Have a look at these live pictures of the Olympic torch ceremony happening right now in Athens. The flags of Greece and Brazil have just
entered the stadium. And the national anthem of both nations will be played. The Olympic torch should enter the stadium any moment now.
Well, from Athens, the torch will eventually make its way to Brazil, but the nation is grappling with some pretty serious challenges in the run
up to the Olympics. President Dilma Rousseff is facing impeachment and the Zika virus is a lingering concern.
Shasta Darlington joins me live from Rio.
Shasta, before we get to those problems, let's focus on today. This is South America's first games. The torch made its way around Greece
during the past six days and there was one very special torchbearer, a Syrian refuge.
SHASTA DARLINGTON, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: That's right. The Brazilians are beginning to pay attention, that's because the torch
will be arriving here just next week. It's going to start out in Brasilia. And that's when it will start its tour around the country. It's going to
visit more than 300 cities and towns, according to organizers, a full 90 percent of the population will have access to the torch and the whole pomp
and circumstance around it if, they oc course, choose to.
And the idea is this will really begin to fire up Brazilians who have been
so distracted by the their problems at home -- a deep financial crisis and all of the political chaos, and it's dented ticket sales.
So, the hope is that now with this handing over ceremony today that really puts the torch in -- squarely in the hands of the Rio 2016 Olympic
committee and with its arrival next week, this will just remind Brazilians what an important role they're playing in this really time-honored
tradition. And also how important it will be to have them on the global stage at this point, Lynda.
KINKADE: And Shasta, just looking at some of that criticism, the guardian newspaper says it will be a great party with a garbage legacy.
Brazil already facing a lot of criticism right across the world.
DARLINGTON: Absolutely, Lynda. You know, I'm here at one of the dozens of test events that has been happening across the city in brand new
venues built just for this event, so there are some bright spots. The venues are on schedule, most of the test events have come off without a
glitch. The problem is, there are a whole host of challenges that weren't imagined outside of the arena.
KINKADE: And speaking of the construction of some things that were built specifically for the Olympics, we know that one elevated cycle way
DARLINGTON: Yeah. That was -- it was just terrible timing. It happened, in fact, on the day the torch was being lit and when, again, all
of the world's eyes were supposed to be focused on these first South American Olympics and Rio's insistence that they are going to
pull it off and these are going to be great games, and lo and behold one of the many projects sort of transforming the city, ahead of
the Olympics, this pathway, it collapsed at least two people were killed, and just really raised questions about Rio's preparedness and again,
highlighted so many of the challenges.
SHASTA DARLINGTON, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): First warnings of water venues so clogged with debris and raw sewage that
athletes risked getting sick.
Then came Zika, a devastating virus that's spreading like wildfire and causing birth defects.
Now this -- a political crisis that could see President Dilma Rousseff step down as early as May to face an impeachment trial, no doubt
accompanied by massive demonstrations like these.
Political and social turmoil with the world watching.
So what will happen to the Summer Olympics?
According to the president herself, they'll be the best the world has ever seen.
"I hope to win not only on the courts and in the stadiums and in all of the sporting venues," she said, "but also to win outside of them,
because we carried out a series of constructions that transformed Rio de Janeiro."
DARLINGTON (voice-over): The glossy promo videos do show preparations are actually looking pretty good; 98 percent of the venues complete and
this without going over budget.
And organizers still expect half a million international tourists to descend on Rio.
DARLINGTON: The hotel association says there haven't been any cancellations, despite this spate of bad publicity; in fact, just the
opposite. They say with the cheaper currency, the hotels are almost 100 percent booked already.
(voice-over): A big challenge still to be overcome: with just over half the tickets sold, can they fill these stands?
[11:06:12] MARIO ANDRADA, SPOKESMAN, RIO 2016: Brazilians are late buyers. And at this point they have more things to worry about.
DARLINGTON (voice-over): But now that torch has been lit and is on its way to Brazil, organizers are confident Brazilians will catch Olympic fever
and tickets will sell out.
Of course, we still don't know who will be in charge of the country when the torch stops at Maracana Stadium for the launch of the summer
DARLINGTON: Now, backing up organizers' claims that ticket sales should pick up now that torch relay has begun, we just spoke to the
director of ticket sales here. He said now the number is up to 62 percent and he expects it to keep climbing, again, once that torch arrives right
here in Brazil -- Lynda.
KINKADE: Right, so it will head right around Brazil over the course of about 95 days. And it will go to some pretty dangerous cities. What is
the security like for the torch relay?
DARLINGTON: Well, we know that for the games themselves, that's when most of the danger is really being anticipated, whether it's the
possibility of violent crime for tourists in Rio, which is a very violent city, or, obviously, in the wake of Paris and the wake of Paris, in the
wake of Brussels, Brazilian and Olympic authorities are taking the possible threat of a terrorist attack very seriously. So there are a number of
different issues there looking at -- there are going to be 85,000 police and troops on hand to secure the games. That's more than double what they
saw in London. They do have more challenges here. This is a huge country with a lot of land borders that are virtually unmanned and not that much
experience in this kind of international exposure.
As far as the torch relay is concerned, that isn't as big a security concern simply because you aren't going to have the huge flood of
international visitors or those international teams that tend to need the extra security presence from the United States to Germany to Israel, a
whole slew of them.
So there will, of course, be security presence, but the real focus is on the games themselves, Lynda.
KINKADE: Right. So, a lot of challenges there, but a lot of hope for these games. Shasta Darlington live for us in Rio, thank you very much.
And of course as the Olympics draws closer, we'll hear what Dilma Rousseff has to say about her political fight and the challenges facing her
nation. She sits down with CNN's chief international correspondent Christiane Amanpour in her first one-on-one interview since the lower house
of congress voted to impeach her. It's a CNN exclusive that airs at 3:00 p.m. in Rio de Janeiro, 7:00 p.m. in London. And it's only on CNN.
Terror suspect Salah Abdelslam has been extradited to France to face trial over his alleged role in the Paris attacks. Belgium handed the 26-
year-old over to French authorities earlier on Wednesday. He was captured in Brussels last month following a shoot-out. Now, Erin McLaughlin
explains what's next for him.
ERIN MCLAUGHLIN, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Well, Salah Abdelslam arrived on French soil around 9:00 a.m. local time. He was
transported on board a helicopter and brought to a military base not far outside of Paris. He is expected to appear in
court some time today, authorities aren't saying exactly when, but French media is reporting that he has already arrived at the Paris court of
Now, Abdelslam is accused of playing an instrumental role if the deadliest attack on French
soil since World War II. Authorities say they're taking no chances when it comes to security.
JEAN-JACQUES URVOAS, FRENCH JUSTICE MINISTER (through translator): He will be placed under solitary confinement, a dedicated surveillance team of
skilled agents trained for detention of dangerous indviduals will be in charge of him. There are, of course, a number of measures already set up
to secure his environment.
[11:10:03] MCLAUGHLIN: Abdelslam's extradition is a welcome development for victims' families as well as survivors.
After all, in the wake of the Paris attacks many were worried that they may never learn the truth about why and how the attacks took place,
because many of the attackers had blown themselves up.
I was speaking earlier today to a lawyer who represents some 16 families. And she was telling me that this extradition to them represents
hope that they will one day and see justice.
Now, a date for his trial has yet to be announced.
Erin McLaughlin, CNN, Brussels, Belgium.
KINKADE: Yeah, well let's get back now to Athens where the Olympic torch relay, as you can see it's happening in the stadium right now.
So, over the last six days, thousands of people carrying Greek and Brazilian flags have watched as that torch has made its way across Greece.
And, of course, when it did get to the capital Athens, the Syrian refugee, Ibrahim al-Hussein carried the flame through a refugee camp. He, of course,
one of the million of migrants who have entered the EU by crossing Greece on an inflatable boat.
Have as listen right now as the flame makes its way up to the podium.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You're waiting for the torchbearers for the Olympic flame.
KINKADE: About 450 torch barriers have carried that flame through Greece on its journey so far over the past week. Each torch we know is
crafted from recycled aluminum. And residents, they weigh about a kilogram each, and you can see there the stadium is absolutely packed watching this
torch make its ways through the stadium to that cauldron. Now, the flame will visit the UN in Geneva on Thursday, and then go on to display at the
Olympic museum in Luzanne (ph) before it heads to Brazil on May 3.
Now, about 12,000 people will carry the Olympic torch around Brazil, through about 300 cities and towns in about 26 states. And that will
happen over the course of about 95 days in the lead up to the first Olympic games to be held in South America which, of course, will happen in Rio very
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: (SPEAKING IN FOREIGN LANGUAGE)
KINKADE: Around 240 different people throughout Greece have had the opportunity and the honor to carry the torch across the country. And as we
can see, some athletes now carrying that torch through the stadium to great applause there.
Now when it does, of course, get to Brazil a country that is facing a lot of problems it will continue on its journey right around Brazil for
some 95 days. Brazil, of course, is facing some serious problems there. The Zika virus, a recession and the government is on verge of collapsing
and of course the Olympics have had their own issues. One cycle way collapsed into the sea raising concerns about
construction there and ticket sales have been sluggish.
So, over the Rio 2016 president, says Rio is ready to deliver history. As I mentioned, it will be the first country in South America to host the
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: ...2015 and Olympics Junior world champion 2013.
[11:17:16] KIKADE: There you see the Greek rower Katarina Nicoladou (ph) lighting the golden cauldron in the Olympic stadiums there in Athens
after the flame went on a journey of more than 2,000 kilometers right around Greece.
Now, that torch will go on now, first to Switzerland and then to Brazil.
We're going to take a break and be right back. Stay with us.
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TRUMP: Well, I think the only card she has is the woman's card. She has nothing else going. And frankly, if Hillary Clinton were a man, I
don't think she would get 5 percent of the vote. The only thing she's got going is the woman's card and the beautiful thing is women don't like her,
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KINKADE: You're watching Connect the World with me Lynda Kinkade. Welcome back.
Donald Trump there using his victory speech after a Super Tuesday sweep to take a swing at Hillary Clinton. And it could be a preview of a
bitter fight ahead if the U.S. presidential frontrunners faceoff later this year.
Both took another big step forward Tuesday. Republican Trump won all five primaries by impressive margins. Democrat Hillary Clinton won four
out of five. She now has about 90 percent of the delegates needed to clinch her party's nomination.
Her rival Bernie Sanders is not quite calling it quits just yet, but in a shift that appears to acknowledge the numbers, he says he'll now focus
on influencing the Democratic Party platform.
Well, there are not many contests left, but some important ones to watch on the calendar. Next Tuesday's primary in Indiana will be the first
real test of the new John Kasich/Ted Cruz alliance.
If Trump's Republican rivals have any shot at stopping him, it almost a major announcement in a few hours. But as Jim Acosta reports, Trump says
the race is already over.
TRUMP: I consider myself the presumptive nominee, absolutely.
JIM ACOSTA, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Donald Trump declared his bid for the Republican nomination a done deal.
TRUMP: It's over. As far as I'm concerned, it's over.
ACOSTA: Urging his rivals to throw in the towel after sweeping all five northeast primaries by margins that can only be described as huge.
TRUMP: I think they're hurting the party because, again, they have no path, zero path to victory. And we're going to win on the first ballot.
ACOSTA: The GOP front-runner blatantly rejected calls to tone down his rhetoric and act more presidential.
TRUMP: Why would I change? You know, if you have a football team and you're winning, and then you get to the Super Bowl, you don't change your
quarterback. So I'm not changing.
ACOSTA: And he previewed the types of attacks he has in store for Hillary Clinton in a general election.
TRUMP: I call her Crooked Hillary. She's crooked. She will not be a good president; she doesn't have the strength. If Hillary Clinton were a
man, I don't think she'd get 5 percent of the vote. The only thing she's got going is the woman's card, and the beautiful thing is, women don't like
ACOSTA: Trump's use of the phrase, "the woman card," provoked this talked-about reaction from Chris Christie's wife.
Despite that confidence on display, the real-estate tycoon still has a few key battles ahead.
CRUZ: The question is, can the state of Indiana stop the media's chosen Republican candidates?
ACOSTA: Ted Cruz is insisting the race is not over.
CRUZ: I've got good news for you. Tonight, this campaign moves back to more favorable terrain.
ACOSTA: Cruz also ramped up his attacks, dedicating his entire speech to linking Trump to Clinton.
CRUZ: Every one of us is fed up with politicians who betray us, who make promises and then don't do it. Donald is telling us he is lying to
KINKADE: CNN's Jim Acosta is following all of this from Washington. Good to have you with us.
Attempts to block Donald Trump seem to be failing.
ACOSTA: That's right.
You know, Ted Cruz and John Kasich put together this pact to try to slow Donald Trump's
momentum. And they were going to hatch this in Indiana and within hours after trying that, it just didn't work. And so that's why you heard Donald
Trump say last night, that he considers at least the GOP side of this race over, but he is trying to make that pivot to the general election campaign,
not only is he trying to do that here in Washington today he is going to be delivering a major foreign policy speech here within the hour, Lynda.
He went after Hillary Clinton last night in ways that the public had not heard before and
in ways that could potentially damage him in the general election campaign. He said that Hillary Clinton is playing the woman card, that is a line that
Hillary Clinton picked right up last night and said if I'm playing the woman card then deal me in.
And, you know, is that a comment that will hurt Donald Trump with women? We'll have to wait and see if that's the case. He's made similar
sort of super-heated comments in the past. They haven't hurt him in the GOP side of this contest, but the general election campaign and the
electorate is very different in that regard. And so we'll have to wait and see on that.
But at this point, Lynda, I think if you look at the delegate math, Donald Trump is within about 250 delegates short of that magic number
needed to clinch the nomination. He is in a very good position right now, and wins in Indiana and the next several states will make him almost
unstoppable I think.
KINKADE: And it was interesting to look the at some of the polls that show that if there is a contested convention, the majority of voters want
the person with the most votes to be the nominee. So how can the Republican Party argue against that?
[11:25:08] ACOSTA: Right. And that is the debate right now. I mean, what the Trump campaign is saying, to some of these nervous Republican
Party regulars, is that look, you can't go into the convention with Donald Trump, maybe he's short of that magic number of 1,237, they don't think
he's going to be short, but you can't go in the convention, they say, if he's short and then deny him the nomination if he's 100, 150 delegates shy
of that number that's needed to clinch.
And that is the argument that they're making that look at what happened last night. He went five for five in some pretty important
battleground states on the Republican side. Pennsylvania is going to be a key state in the fall, at least in the opinion of the Trump campaign.
And so I think, Lynda, when you have a candidate who has won a state like Florida in the way that he won it, South Carolina, New Hampshire,
Pennsylvania, you know, next week is Indiana and then he goes out to California, if Donald Trump continues to roll like this, a Republican Party
critics are just going to have to either stomach the idea of Donald Trump being the nominee or come up with a plan B.
At this point there is no consensus what that might be, some talk about running a third party, you know, ticket, of some sort, more
establishment Republican figures, but that -- there isn't really any serious talk of that right now in Washington.
Jim Acosta staying across it all for us in Washington, thank you very much.
And of course, fresh from last night's wins, Donald Trump is set to deliver a major foreign policy speech in Washington. In about 40 minutes
from now, we'll bring you that live at the top of this hour.
Some of his ideas on the campaign trail about foreign policy have been pretty controversial. Take a listen.
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TRUMP: Donald J. Trump is calling for a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States.
Ii know more about ISIS than the generals do, believe me. I would bomb the (EXPLETIVE DELETED) out of them.
you are going to love me in terms of immigration and illegal immigration. We're building a wall. It's going to be a wall that is not -
- nobody is going through my wall. Trump builds walls. I build walls.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
KINKADE: Comments like that have given Trump an uneasy reputation in many parts of the world.
Let's bring in CNN's international diplomatic editor Nic Robertson who joins us now live from London.
And Nic, given that Trump does appear headed for the general election as the Republican
nominee at this time what sort of response are you seeing on the international stage?
NIC ROBERTSON, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Well, I think people are going to be looking certainly at the speech given today although, of
course, they'll know what we're talking about world leaders looking for insights here for Donald Trump to
perhaps give more detail, flesh out some of the things he's said already, explained further if you will.
But I think there's obviously a recognition while leaders and -- will look at this, they'll know
that really this speech is aimed at a U.S. domestic audience and not an international audience. So, it perhaps won't have the level of detail
they'll want to hear but on that issues of Muslims, you've had David Cameron here calling that divisive -- those comments divisive, stupid and
wrong . And David Cameron just last week was given the opportunity to comment further on Donald Trump. He had
made those comments about a month and a half ago.
He was given the opportunity to comment further on Donald Trump's campaign, and he chose not to. He sort of sidestepped the issue, which
kind of shows you that, you know, from going from somebody who is very extremely publicly critical of him, he's sort of stepping back from that at
the moment because there's a possibility, a more real possibility, perhaps that's the recognition, that
Trump may become the next U.S. president or get closer to the White House than has shown so far.
KINKADE: Trump has, of course, over the course of this presidential campaign, threatened to impose tariffs and taxes on U.S. trade partners.
In one debate, he said he would impose a 45 percent tariff on Chinese goods if the country, and I quote, doesn't behave, meaning if it doesn't open up
to U.S. business.
He also threatened a 35 percent tax on Ford cars that are manufactured in Mexico. And in a 2011 book he proposed a 20 percent tax on imports and
a 15 percent tax for outsourcing jobs.
Are these serious concerns that he could follow through on these threats?
ROBERTSON: You know, when it comes to, you know, the 45 percent question for China, do they behave, immediately you know, if you're in the
White House, then you're going to be surrounded by people who will say, okay, if this is the case, then we're going to need to define what it means
to behave. So you become constrained by that.
I think the reality is, that the expectation is that if there was a President Trump, that he will have access and be given a lot more guidance
and advice, up to him than whether or not he's going to follow it. But you talk to many economists and they say really the way
that he has outlined so far, how to tackle trade with China is not something that's going to be in the long-term benefit of the United States.
You know, some economists say this will drive up the price of food, for example, in the United States.
So, you know, it's clear that a lot of detail needs to be added. And that's just one of those tiny points on all the things have said, where the
detail is going to bevery, very important.
KINKADE: Yeah, we will certainly be watching very closely to see if there is much detail today. Nic Robertson live for us from London, thank
you very much.
Well, live from the CNN Center this is Connect the World. Coming up, honoring the victims of the Hillsborough stadium disaster. British
lawmakers are calling for prosecution a day after a jury delivered its verdict.
[11:33:31] KINKADE: Welcome back. The Democratic race for U.S. president is taking on an air of inevitability. Hillary Clinton seems all
but certain to win the nomination after a strong showing on Super Tuesday.
Her rival Bernie Sanders is staying in the race, but apparently shifting his focus.
Jeff Zeleny explains.
HILLARY CLINTON, 2016 DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: Thank you, Pennsylvania!
ZELENY (voice-over): Hillary Clinton winning four big states, pushing her even closer to becoming the Democratic nominee, extending her hand to
Bernie Sanders and his supporters who she'll need in the fight ahead.
HILLARY CLINTON (D), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: And I applaud Senator Sanders and his millions of supporters for challenging us to get
unaccountable money out of our politics and giving -- greater emphasis to closing the gap of inequality, and I know together we will get that done.
ZELENY: But Sanders pledging to stay in the race and run an issue- oriented campaign until the last vote is cast.
In a statement overnight, he says, "This campaign is going to the Democratic National Convention in Philadelphia with as many delegates as
possible to fight for a progressive party platform."
CLINTON: Whether you support Senator Sanders or you support me, there's much more that unites us than divides us.
ZELENY: But the Clinton campaign is already looking forward to the battle with Donald Trump, or whoever the GOP nominee may be.
[11:35:00] CLINTON: We will unify our party to win this election, and build an America where we can all rise together. An America where we lift
each other up instead of tearing each other down.
ZELENY: Sanders addressing the crowd in West Virginia before the final results, taking on a different tone, steering clear of harsh attacks
SEN. BERNIE SANDERS (I-VT), DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: Almost every national poll and every state poll has us defeating Trump, and that
margin for us is significantly larger than that of Secretary Clinton.
KINKADE: Well let's get back now to the Olympic torch ceremony that's happening in Athens. We have reached the climax of this special event, the
moment when the torch will be handed over to the president of Rio's organizing committee. Let's have a listen.
(OLYMPIC TORCH CEREMONY, ATHENS, GREECE)
[11:43:43] KINKADE: We're going to leave the ceremony there in Athens for this moment. We have some breaking news now out of London.
Our Phil Black is standing by. Phil, you've been covering the Hillsborough verdict yesterday
and today. What can you tell us?
PHIL BLACK, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: This is just some new information that's just come to hand, and it involves the chief constable
of South Yorkshire police. CNN has confirmed that he has been suspended, we are told, over his response to Hillsborough.
Now, to put that in some context what that means, South Yorkshire police were the local police
responsible for the operation at Hillsborough Stadium 27 years ago in charge of keeping that stadium safe at the time when that huge surge in the
crowd happened when those 96 people were crushed to death.
As such, they have, obviously, been a key part of the recent coroner's inquest taking place
here in this part of the country. Those inquests returned their findings yesterday agreeing that the deaths of those people were unlawful, that the
fans that day were not responsible and that the police, indeed, were to a significant degree.
Now what we heard from the victims' families who really made that legal action possible, made that inquiry happen, fighting for 27 years,
what we've heard from them over the last 24 hours is they were very unhappy with the conduct of South Yorkshire Police over the course of that inquest.
The police had interested party status, it means that they had legal representation, it means they could cross examine witnesses and so forth.
The view of the families is that the police were unnecessarily adversarial throughout those proceedings, making them much more difficult, much more
traumatic and in a way drawing and really drawing out the proceedings.
Just this morning, the chief constable of this particular police force released a statement trying to explain that they stand by the apology they
made back in 2012 for the way that policing operation was conducted, that they had tried to conduct themselves through their legal representation
over the course of the inquest in a way that was in line with that apology still, and they apologized to anyone
who was -- for the perception if you like that they did not, that they were in any way backing away from that apology.
But now just hours later, the chief constable, we are told, has been suspended as a result of all of this.
This on the same day that the Prime Minister David Cameron has paid tribute to the families who pursued in his words the truth relentlessly to
an extent where he said everyone owes them a great deal of gratitude.
What this shows, really it's another development showing that the families, that pursuit of the truth is now being recognized nationally and
at the highest levels of power in this country after that long 27-year struggle to have that recognized in the sense that they've always believed
it to be true, Lynda.
KINKADE: It's just quite incredible, 27 years later that someone is being potentially held
accountable for what happened for the deaths of those 96 people. Could other heads roll? Could we see more people being suspended within the
ROBERTSON: Just to be clear, it's not -- this is not a case where someone has been suspended as a result of the disaster itself, but ability
the way that the South Yorkshire police have responded to the disaster in the years since, and we presume to a significant degree,
the way they have responded over the course of the inquest process.
What we look now torwards and what is still ongoing is, yes, a criminal investigation that could very well hold people accountable for the
events of that day, for the events leading up to the causes of the surge and the crush of people that killed those 96 people, and in a separate
criminal investigation that is looking at how in the days and months and even years after that,
police, some of which are alleged to have tried to cover up their failies on the day.
So, those two separate police investigation, criminal investigations, are still ongoing. They are expected to wind up around the end of the
year. And at that point, it is expected that prosecutors here would make a determination on just what charges should be brought and who, if anyone,
should be brought before the courts in this country, Lynda.
KINKADE: Certainly some significant developments there. And I understand the victims were honored last night with many landmarks across
that city lit up to remember them.
ROBERTSON: Yeah, we saw the key buildings across the country lit up in red, bathed in red, that striking color of the Liverpool Football Club.
And we're going to see more support for the victim's families in about an hour's time when the square behind me here is expected to be packed with
thousands of people who will be coming together here for a memorial to thank those victim's families who maintain that struggle for so long and
show further solidarity with them.
It's not the first time, certainly, that the people of Liverpool have done this. They've been doing it for decades. But what's different here
is that in the past these sorts of memorials, these huge group gatherings took place in the context of those victims' families pursuing justice. Now
it is taking place in the context of justice to a significant degree having been done.
That is the inquest findings finally recognizing the truth is they've always known it to be themselves, always maintained that it is, that is
that the fans weren't responsible for what happened that day. And that the 96 who died, died unlawfully.
So what we'll be seeing here, a huge crowd, speeches. We're going to hear the names of the 96 read out. And you can expect some pretty
boisterous singing, too. Notably, you'll never walk alone, that passionate rendition by Liverpool Football Club fans of their anthem -- Lynda.
KINKADE: Certainly was a powerful moment when we saw families of those victims stand together and holding hands singing that song.
Phil Black for us with that breaking news from Liverpool, thank you very much.
We're going to take a quick break. We will be back with more of Connect the World. Stay with us.
[11:52:11] KINKADE: Welcome back.
We're now just minutes away from a major speech by Donald Trump, the Republican presidential candidate who says he hates teleprompters, will
likely rely on one today to deliver carefully prepared remarks on foreign policy.
We're joined now by CNN political commentator Peter Bainart. Great to have you with us.
Donald Trump has spoken quite a bit now on how to be presidential. First he sort of said he wouldn't change, then he sort of said he would
depending on the situation and that he's a different person behind closed doors.
And then last night we heard him say he's going to be more flexible going forward. What do you think we will see today?
PETER BEINART, CNN POLITICAL COMMENTATOR: I think Donald Trump will try to flesh out his foreign policy ideas in a way that will give the
appearance of a man who has thought abou foreign policy and might, therefore, be prepared to be president.
I think it will be paper thin will be my guess. And if you actually dig just a little bit into what he's saying you realize that he's actually
-- he doesn't know very much about the real dynamics of America's role in the world. But I think he's going to try to pretend.
KINKADE: Well, we often hear him use the same sort of lines every time, that he wants to build a wall and that he blames China for the loss
of jobs in the U.S. Critics from both sides of the political divide have accused him time and time again of oversimplifying
global dynamics. If he doesn't give any detail today what will we see, what sort of reaction?
BEINART: Well, he will give some detail. That's the whole point of this kind of speech is that he's gotten some people together, some advisers
written something for him that will simulate some, you know, more apparently sophisticated understanding of the world.
Bbut I think it's important to understand that Donald Trump is basically responding to a market
he sees in the United States in which there are people who are frustrated because wages have not risen in this country for 20 years and so they look
for people and countries blame. And they blame Mexican immigrants and they blame trade with China, both of which are having somewhat disruptive
effect, especially in certain kinds of the areas of the country. And Donald Trump is -- that's what Donald Trump is doing.
The elite audience may want the veneer of some kind of seriousness. But I don't think that's where Donald Trump really cares about him,
Frankly. I'm not even sure he's capable of it.
KINKADE: Given how much he's spoken about China recently, do you think that will be his main focus today?
BEINART: I guess -- my guess is he'll talk a significant amount China, but probably my guess will be he will try do a kind of a tour of the
horizon, which is what presidential candidates sometimes do in which they talk about the Middle East. They talk about China. They talk about Europe
and Russia and they try to offer some sense of a kind of a holistic view of what they would do as president.
KINKADE: He has had some support from Russia, but that is not necessarily a good thing from an American perspective.
BEINART: Well, you know, Trump has a certain authoritarian instinct. You know, part of his appeal is based on the idea that, you know, he's a
guy that's going to get things done. He's not too terribly concerned about due process and so you can the why he might find someone like Putin
appealing in that regard.
What I think you're not going to see Trump do, because again I don't think he's capable of doing it, is actually a kind of a thoughtful
consideration of what America's interests actually are in the form -- former Soviet Republics like Ukraine, to what degree it's worth risking our
ability to work with Russia to try to prevent Vladimir Putin from re- establishing some more modest kind of Russian empire.
Those -- that's the kind of tradeoff that i think Donald Trump simply kind of intellectually isn't capable of doing.
KINKADE: He has to -- sorry. I just had someone -- we're going to have to leave it there, Peter, thank you so much for joining us. We
BEINART: My pleasure.
KINKADE: Well, Trump's victories mean he is now turning away from his fellow Republican candidates and shifting his aim towards his Democratic
rival Hillary Clinton. The two frontrunners are now assuming they will be the ones facing off this general election.
CNNpolitics.com has the latest on their campaigns and the jibes they're flinging at each other along the way.
And for all that and much more you can head to CNNpolitics.com.
And we will have coverage of Trump's speech at the top of the hour. Let's join our colleagues now at CNN USA for all that detail and a live
look at the speech. I'm Lynda Kinkade, thank you for joining this edition of Connect the World. We'll be back with more.