Return to Transcripts main page

CNN Newsroom

Trump Calls California Protesters "Thugs And Criminals"; Twenty Four Killed, Dozens Injured In Iraq Suicide Attack; Four 911 Calls Made From Paisley Park Since 2013; Clinton: Trump's Foreign Policy "Disturbing"; Clinton Not Going To Deal With "Temper Tantrums"; Star Player On Defense After Hack. Aired 11a-12p ET

Aired April 30, 2016 - 11:00   ET

THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.


ANA CABRERA, CNN GUEST ANCHOR: Berman asking the tough questions. We hope you'll join us. CNN has special coverage tonight of the White House Correspondents' Dinner so you can get a look behind the scenes. We'll have the reporters mixing it up. The Hollywood hottest names along with Washington insiders. The coverage begins tonight here on CNN at 7:00 Eastern.

VICTOR BLACKWELL, CNN ANCHOR: And of course, you can join us tomorrow morning to see the very latest if you miss it tonight.

CABRERA: Let's head it over to Martin Savidge, our great friend and steamed colleague.

MARTIN SAVIDGE, CNN GUEST ANCHOR: Guys, have you ever been to that dinner?

BLACKWELL: No, I've never been invited. How about you?

SAVIDGE: No. The closest thing I think was the Cleveland School Board Reporter's coffee.

BLACKWELL: I hear the red carpet is hot.

SAVIDGE: It is 11:00 on the east coast. I'm Martin Savidge in for Fredricka Whitfield. NEWSROOM starts now.

(VIDEO CLIP)

SAVIDGE: Donald Trump is responding this morning to the angry reception that he got outside the GOP state convention in California. As you can see, it got physical with pushing and shoving between protesters and police officers.

The large crowd of demonstrators even causing Trump's motorcade to pull over on the side of the road forcing the Republican frontrunner to sneak into the hotel's back entrance.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

DONALD TRUMP (R), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: Oh, boy, felt like I was crossing the border actually. It's true. I was crossing the border but I got here. (END VIDEO CLIP)

SAVIDGE: That is a different kind of a Hotel California. Let's bring in CNN's Jason Carroll, who was at that event. Jason, I understand that Trump is now tweeting about those protesters, right?

JASON CARROLL, CNN NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: As you know Martin, Trump does love to tweet. Today was no exception tweeting about what happened out here yesterday. Let me read it to you. He says, "The protesters in California were thugs and criminals. Many are professionals. They should be dealt with strongly by law enforcement."

So you juxtapose what happened out here yesterday where we saw all of that unrest out here in front of the Hyatt Hotel, Martin. And what we saw inside when Donald Trump finally took the stage here at the state GOP convention.

Basically talking about unity using words like solidarity, friendship. John Kasich weighing in on this issues this morning basically saying that Donald Trump is not the man who can unify the party. He is the candidate of fear.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

JOHN KASICH (R), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: I've chosen to go of course to the positive side. When you live in the negative side, I think it has consequences. You know, it's a lot of polarization and it's really, really difficult. I don't watch it, but I've heard about it. And it's difficult for me to imagine in the United States of America.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

CARROLL: I should also point out, Martin, that Trump, defiant as ever, did mention John Kasich when he spoke to those who came here to the convention yesterday. When he spoke of John Kasich, he called him a, quote, "spoiled child" for staying in a race that mathematically he has no chance of winning -- Martin.

SAVIDGE: Sounds just like Donald Trump. Jason Carroll, thank you very much for that.

In other news, ISIS is claiming responsibility for a deadly suicide attack at a busy marketplace near Baghdad. Police say the bomb went off in a parked car this morning targeting a group of Shiites shopping for meat and produce. At least 24 people were killed in that bombing and dozens of others were injured.

Meanwhile in neighboring Syria, the United Nations is now warning that that country's ceasefire hangs by a thread. Fighting has intensified over the last few days including a deadly air strike on a children's hospital in Aleppo.

I want to discuss both of these developing stories now with CNN military analyst, Col. Rick Francona. Good to see you this morning, Colonel. LT. COL. RICK FRANCONA (RETIRED), CNN MILITARY ANALYST: Good morning, Martin.

SAVIDGE: Let's start with Iraq. We had this terrible bombing there. ISIS still controls large portions of that country's north and west, but they have been faced or faced some territorial losses over the past year.

I'm wondering, you know, security officials are sort of trying to insinuate that we are seeing -- these insurgent style attacks really is more suggesting of desperation, would you agree with that?

FRANCONA: Yes. I think that's a fair assessment. As they suffer military losses on the battlefield, they resort to try (inaudible) they've used in the past. They are acting more like an insurgency now.

They like to go after these soft targets that have a huge psychological impact, the mosques, markets, sporting events and that's what we saw today they went after a marketplace.

So we are going to see more of that as they get pushed out of the cities, but it's a long road between now and when we mount the attack on Mosul. So this is going to on for months.

SAVIDGE: How do you adjust the strategy, though, for this kind of fighting? What it means taking on this kind of insurgency?

FRANCONA: This is a totally different fight than when you're out in the field, when you've got them in a location that you know and you're facing them head on, we're using more military tactics.

[11:05:06]This is a counterinsurgency role, more of a policing operation. The Iraqis, who generally have pretty good internal security have really got to ramp up this game.

What we are seeing is they're going after these Shia targets. They are trying to exacerbate ISIS is, trying to exacerbate that Sunni Shi'a tension. And they are being pretty effective at it.

And so far, the Shia really haven't taken the bait to start a big civil war. Hopefully, the Iraqi security forces will get a handle on this and provide better security.

SAVIDGE: This week, I think we saw Secretary of State John Kerry was visiting in Iraq, an unnoticed visit. Amidst the drama in the political scene there, I'm wondering if -- are we seeing these visits as a way to try to bolster the government or what's the purpose?

FRANCONA: There's a real crisis going on in the Iraqi government. Our chosen leader in Iraq needs all the support he can get. He's coming under a lot of pressure from mostly the Shi'a politicians, a lot of Iranian are not happy with using more and more American forces.

He's got to solve that somehow and put his house back together. But, you know, Iraq as a country is going to face real challenges in trying to reintegrate the Sunnis into the power structure. He's trying to do that and he's getting a lot of pushback from his Shi'a brethren.

SAVIDGE: Before I let you go, I got to ask about Syria, it seemed like that ceasefire was doing well, reasonably well, but now this week, it has really changed and why?

FRANCONA: Well, we are seeing a lot of increased Syrian and Russian air activity. The Russians have been really effective with their air power and rather than going after ISIS, they're going after these anti-regime rebels.

I have to tell you, Martin, my assessment is that Aleppo will soon fall to the regime. I just don't see how the rebels can hold out against the onslaught that they are getting.

The Syrian regime has turned away from ISIS and they are focusing on retaking Aleppo. I think Aleppo is going to fall.

SAVIDGE: And that would be a huge, huge loss for the rebels.

FRANCONA: Absolutely.

SAVIDGE: All right, Col. Rick Francona, thank you very much for joining us this morning.

Monday, can you believe it, marks five years since President Barack Obama gave the order to kill the most wanted man in the world almost everyone remembers that night.

For the first in an exclusive interview with CNN's national security analyst, Peter Bergen, the president speaks from the situation room about the operation that led to the death of Osama Bin Laden, the mastermind behind the September 11th attacks.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

BARACK OBAMA, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA: After the discussions with the principals, it was clear to me that this was going to be our best chance to get Bin Laden, that if in fact we did not take the action that he might slip away and it might be years before he resurfaced.

I had confidence that we could get our guys back. We knew that it was going to cause some significant blowback within Pakistan and that if it wasn't Bin Laden, probably the costs would outweigh the benefits.

And we would lose face internationally because there was probably going to be a lot of difficulty keeping it secret once the operation started.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

SAVIDGE: A fascinating insight you do not want to miss. That will be "Anderson Cooper 360 Special: We Got Him, President Obama, Bin Laden, and The Future of the War on Terror" will air right here on CNN Monday night at 8:00 Eastern.

Up next, Hillary Clinton, unfiltered on Donald Trump.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

HILLARY CLINTON (D), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: I have a lot of experience dealing with men who sometimes get off the reservation in the way they behave and how they speak. I'm not going to deal with their temper tantrums or their bullying or their efforts to try to provoke me. He can say whatever he wants to say about me. I could really care less.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

SAVIDGE: More from Jake Tapper's exclusive interview that's coming up.

Plus NFL player, Laremy Tunsil forced to play major defense this week. Details on the hack that cost him millions. Still ahead.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

[11:12:43]

BLACKWELL: Police have released the logs of dozens of emergency calls made from Prince's Paisley Park studios as they work to try to piece together what happened to the singer. And we're also learning powerful prescription pain killers were found on Prince's body and in his home. CNN's Sara Sidner has more.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

SARA SIDNER, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Prince's fiercely guarded private life and struggles slowly coming to life after his death. The sheriff's office has now released incident call reports involving all calls in the last five years from Prince's Paisley Park estate to local enforcement.

There were 47 calls in all, some for suspicious activity, others for harassing phone calls, but four were for medical issues, including the day Prince died. But there is no indication yet whether the three other medical incidents involved Prince himself.

What a law enforcement source is telling CNN when Prince was found dead in the elevator at Paisley Park, prescription opioid medication was found in his possession, the medication commonly used to treat severe pain was also found inside Prince's home, the source said.

(on camera): And then there's this -- investigators telling us they have been unable to find any evidence that Prince had a valid prescription for that medication.

(voice-over): We now know that Prince may have been struggling with severe pain and using the prescription painkillers six days before he was found dead when his pilot called air traffic control to make an unscheduled landing.

Prince was unconscious. He was rushed to the hospital in Moline, Illinois, where investigators saying Prince was treated for a potential overdose of pain medication.

His publicist at that time said he was suffering from the flu, but now the Drug Enforcement Administration has been called in to help investigate Prince's death.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

SIDNER: Now the DEA's job is to look into the illicit sale of drugs including prescription drugs or opioid based prescription medication. So that maybe their role in this case giving you some idea where this investigation maybe going.

I also want to mention this to you, Martin, if you look behind me you will notice at that there are still people showing you and paying their respects to Prince.

[11:15:01]The love that this community and the world has for him growing every single day outside of his Paisley Park compound -- Martin.

SAVIDGE: Yes, that's very true. Sara Sidner, thank you very much for that.

Up next, Hillary Clinton gives praise to her Democratic rival.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

CLINTON: Senator Sanders has been a passionate advocate for positions he cares deeply about. I think that's been helpful to the Democratic primary process.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

SAVIDGE: More from CNN's exclusive interview with the frontrunner. That will be next.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

PRESIDENT OBAMA: I am determined to make the most of every moment I have left. My advisers ask me, Mr. President, do you have a bucket list? And I said, well, I have something that rhymes with bucket list. Take executive action on immigration? Bucket. Climate regulations --

(END VIDEO CLIP)

SAVIDGE: Washington meets Hollywood tonight at the annual White House Correspondents' Dinner. Actually, I found that very funny. CNN will walk you down the red carpet live with coverage kicking off at 7 p.m. Eastern Time.

All right, Hillary Clinton feeling backlash today from a comment that she made that Americans are taking offense to and now Bernie Sanders is calling Clinton's choice of words, quote, "disappointing." [11:20:07]Clinton made the controversial comment while brushing off attacks from Donald Trump in an interview with CNN. Our Jake tapper has the exclusive interview.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

CLINTON: I certainly read about it and I think it's quite concerning, his talk about pulling out of NATO, his talk about letting other countries have nuclear weapons, which runs counter to bipartisan security policy.

His idea that he has a secret plan to get rid of ISIS and he's not going to tell anybody. I found it disturbing. As senator from New York for eight years, as secretary of state for four years, I know that the stakes are high, that we face some real challenges and dangers in the world.

And I don't think loose talks about loose nukes, I don't think turning our back on our strongest allies, I don't think pretending you have some sort of secret plan is a very smart way to go forward in leading the world, which is what we must do.

JAKE TAPPER, CNN HOST, "STATE OF THE UNION": On some issues, it seems he's going to run to your left, populous left and one of them might be the use of force and military intervention. Whether it's Libya or Iraq, what will your response be when he says Hillary Clinton is part of the group that gets us into these wars?

CLINTON: Well, look, I think that I'm always someone who uses military force as a last resort. It's not a first choice. As secretary of state, I talked a lot about smart power and diplomacy and development.

I'm the one who put together the coalition that imposed sanctions on Iran, brought them to the negotiating table, which led to them putting a lid on their nuclear weapons program.

That's exactly what we need to do because there was a real potential that military action might have been taken in order to prevent Iran from getting a nuclear weapon.

So when you have somebody who says he's going to be tough and get results but doesn't tell you how he's going to do it, I think we'll have a lot to contrast with.

TAPPER: He also said if you were a man, you would be at 5 percent in the polls. What did you think when you heard that?

CLINTON: You know, I don't respond to his attacks on me. I think it's kind of silly. I was elected to the Senate twice from New York, I was someone who got more than 18 million votes the first time I ran. I now have 2 million more votes than Donald Trump has, more than 12 million votes to his 10.

So it doesn't really square with reality. What I worry about is the way he attacks all kinds of groups people and I want to be, you know, their spokesperson. I'm going to stand up for them.

You know, attacking me, demeaning me, you know, talking about playing the woman's card, well, there are a lot of women out there who are really struggling, women working on minimum wage, women not being paid fairly, trying to balance family and work and finding it really, really hard.

Women who are worried about security in their neighborhoods, women who have a lot of legitimate concerns. As I said Tuesday night, if playing the women's card means standing up for the concerns that women have and that they me in because that's exactly what I've always done for decades and what I will do in this campaign.

TAPPER: He has taken politics to a new place with his negative branding people whether it's saying Jeb Bush has low energy or talking about Lying Ted Cruz and for his supporters it's really worked.

He is lately taken to calling you I believe "Corrupt Hillary" and he's had personal and pointed tweets. Have you learned anything from watching the way that Republicans dealt with him in the primaries that will inform how will you deal with such an unconventional candidate?

CLINTON: Remember, I have a lot of experience dealing with men who sometimes get off the reservation in the way they behave and the way they speak. I'm not going to deal with their temper tantrums or their bullying or efforts to provoke me.

He could say what he wants to say about me, I could really care less. I'm going to stand up for what I think the American people need and want in the next president. That's why I've laid out very specific plans.

There's nothing secret about what I want to do with the economy, with education, with health care, with foreign policy. I've laid it all out there and he can't or he won't, I can't tell which.

So we're going to talk about what we're going to do for the country and he can continue on his insult fest but that's the choice he's making.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

SAVIDGE: Jake's conversation with Hillary Clinton continues tomorrow morning that will be on "STATE OF THE UNION" and he'll go one-on-one with Republican presidential candidate, Ted Cruz. Two of a myriad of reasons why you don't want to miss "STATE OF THE UNION" tomorrow morning, 9:00 Eastern only on CNN.

As you just heard from Clinton, the woman card was certainly on the table this week. The role of gender in the election. That's coming up.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

[11:28:06]

SAVIDGE: Good morning. Thanks for joining me. I'm Martin Savidge in for Fredricka Whitfield.

Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton are getting closer to locking up their party's nominations. You're going to get pretty good idea of what the general election will look like and most especially sound like. Donald Trump playing this card.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

DONALD TRUMP (R), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: I think the only card she has is the woman's card, she's got nothing else going. Frankly, if Hillary Clinton were a man, I don't think she'd get 5 percent of the vote. The only thing she's got going is the woman's card and the beautiful thing is women don't like her, OK?

(END VIDEO CLIP)

SAVIDGE: Trump also called her crooked and an enabler. Clinton talked to CNN's Jake Tapper about the attacks and how she would handle them.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

CLINTON: Attacking me, demeaning me, talking about playing the woman's card, well, there a lot of women out there who are really struggling, women working on minimum wage, not being paid fairly, women trying to balance family and work and finding it really, really hard.

Women who are worried about security in their neighborhoods, women who have a lot of legitimate concerns. As I said Tuesday night, if playing the women's card means standing up for the concerns that women have and that they express to me, then deal me in because that's exactly what I've always done for decades and I will do in this campaign.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

BLACKWELL: Let's stick more with that metaphor and talk more about the house of cards with CNN political commentator, Ana Navarro. She is also a Republican strategist. Nice to see you, Ana.

ANA NAVARRO, CNN POLITICAL COMMENTATOR: Nice to see you, Martin.

SAVIDGE: So Clinton has said I think these are temper tantrums that she won't respond to and she is used to men going off the reservation in her words. Could all of this backfire on Trump and the way he has been carrying on?

NAVARRO: I think it doesn't back fire on him in a primary certainly. I think there is a faction within the Republican Party. There is part of the Republican base that feels that Hillary Clinton is very much pushing her gender and that don't like Hillary Clinton and will accept and embrace any criticism on her.

Now, one thing is a primary, another thing is a general. I do think in a general election it becomes an issue and he's got to be very careful on how he deals with it and how he talks about it.

Look, we've seen this week, for example, Martin, as a result reaction to his comments. We've seen Jane Sanders, the wife of Senator Bernie Sanders, who is running against Hillary Clinton right now come out and defend Hillary Clinton.

We saw the side glance that Mary Pat Christie gave her husband, Chris Christie, as they were standing behind Trump when he said these words.

And I can tell you that even a person like me, a woman like me who is not inclined to support Hillary Clinton, who would not want to support her and come out and defend her, I take umbrage to that kind of statement.

There is no question that Hillary Clinton is a very hard worker, a very prepared woman, a Yale grad, a lawyer. She's probably been the primary bread winner in that family until the last 15 years, until after he became president, she was the one that was bringing home the bacon.

So I think that, you know, you get this instant reaction from women, particularly professional women who have had to face that criticism and a lot of times unfairly.

SAVIDGE: Right. And what you say is borne out by a recent CNN poll that found that 73 percent of female voters have an unfavorable view of the GOP front-runner with just 26 percent having a positive view. When we talk about going forward into November with Trump as the GOP candidate, how does he try to right this wrong?

NAVARRO: You know, he's got a lot of work to do. It's not only what he said about Hillary Clinton, it's the things he has said about Megyn Kelly, about Rosie O'Donnell, you name it. He's had a history of very controversial, bombastic remarks about women also about men.

I would tell you he is an equal opportunity offender and attacker when he feels attacked and wants to go after somebody. I think he needs to listen to the women in his life.

I think both Ivanka and Melania Trump have proved to be and have demonstrated themselves certainly in the public eye as grounded, wise women, and they need to give him some advice and make him listen.

It's not good enough just to tell him be more presidential, you shouldn't say those things. You really at some point have got to press down on him. I think this is a challenge that he's going to have to face.

And he's going to have somehow convince that 73 percent of women who don't like him right now that the Trump they saw in the primary is different than what a President Trump would be. It is not going to be an easy hurdle, and he's not making it any easier on himself.

SAVIDGE: It's interesting, I have had conversations with a number of women who are Republicans and are a supporter of Donald Trump. They sort of brush this off as media fixation and also say that is Donald Trump trying to bring attention to himself, in other words, it's really not him. Do you think it's a good idea?

NAVARRO: I'll tell you two things. Number one, the people who support Donald Trump, he can do no wrong in their eyes. He could be caught on video clubbing a baby seal and they would somehow find a way to excuse it and justify it.

The second thing can I tell you is that I don't know if the Donald Trump we are seeing right now is a media creation, is a persona, is a character or if it is the real Trump. So it is a heck of a risk to take.

It is a heck of a request of the American people to take that risk. Temperament matters when it comes to being the president of the United States, character matters, being a unifier matters.

You can't just be this bombastic persona that throws out offenses and attacks willy-nilly for the purpose of gathering media attention. It has worked for him. It has definitely worked for him. He does this cyclically.

Every few days he comes out with one new controversial statement that gets the rest of us talking and he gets the echo chamber.

But at some point if you're running for president, you got to start acting like president and convincing the majority of the American people and voters that you will act like a president, not just a TV reality star.

SAVIDGE: It's almost like you broke the script for a Democratic commercial there. We will see. Ana Navarro, thank you very much for joining us. Please let me know if you find that seal video of Donald Trump. We'll be right back.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

[11:38:28]

SAVIDGE: When it comes to strictest college campuses, Brigham Young University ranks in the top ten of colleges, at least according to collegetimes.com, and there is no co-ed camping, no short skirts, no coffee, no alcohol consumption or premarital sex.

But then there's this. Several female students who say that they were raped and claim by BYU inflicted even more trauma because when the school kicked them out, accusing them of violating its honor code, all of this played into their mind and into their heart break.

CNN's Ana Cabrera went to Utah and talked with the women and the BYU officials.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: He had taken photos and videos during the rape and he threatened me to expose those.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I tried to get up and leave. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I've got these, like strict wise they're not crossing and he didn't care about those.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I was just sitting there crying saying I don't want to report, I can't do this, what if BYU finds out?

CABRERA (voice-over): Their stories of rape and sexual assault traumatic and horrifying.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: What does it take to change the way we address sexual assault?

CABRERA: But it's what happened after their school found out that's sparking the outrage. Brooke's nightmare began in February of 2014. She says she had taken hallucinogenic drugs just before being assaulted.

BROOKE, ALLEGED RAPE VICTIM: Over the course of the next 45 minutes in like different ways, he raped me.

CABRERA: She reported it to police, but too afraid to face her alleged attacker in court decided not to press charges. Three months later she told her school, Brigham Young University.

BROOKE: I thought it would be a simple process to report him and have him be kicked out.

CABRERA (on camera): Because he is a student.

BROOKE: Yes, he was a student there.

CABRERA: But instead of getting support, Brooke was suspended. BYU, a private university run by the Mormon Church determined Brooke had violated its honor code, a student code of conduct that prohibits the use of illegal drugs and alcohol as well as premarital sex.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I waited about four days to report because I was scared of my standing at BYU.

CABRERA (voice-over): Matti Barney only reported her alleged rape to police. It happened off campus so she was shocked when she got a call from BYU's Title 9 office, which investigates sexual harassment and sexual violence.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: What she said on that phone call was we received a police report, and in it a, we think you may have been raped, and b, it looks like you probably violated the honor code as well. I felt so betrayed because they read every single thing that happened to me and they just kind of didn't care.

CABRERA: in fact, she says now she's facing backlash from BYU for not answering all their questions. Her attorney told her not to until after her criminal trial this fall. The school won't let her register for future classes until she talks with the honor code office.

CARRI JENKINS, BYU SPOKESWOMAN: There would never be an honor code review for reporting sexual assault, for being a victim of sexual assault.

CABRERA (on camera): How does that victim then end up being disciplined by the Honor Code Office?

JENKINS: I wouldn't know. I wouldn't be able to speculate on any one situation.

CABRERA (voice-over): While the school can't talk about specific cases, it did issue this additional statement saying in part, "Sometimes in the course of an investigation, facts come to light that a victim has engaged in prior honor code violations.

In all honor code proceedings the university strives for fairness, sensitivity and compassion. The university's overriding concern is always the safety and well-being of its students.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I think their first and foremost priority is protecting the university. It's not protecting the students.

CABRERA (on camera): I see you shaking your heads.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yes, they've made that very clear.

CABRERA (voice-over): Since Barney went public with her story other victims have felt empowered to share theirs.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You're reporting someone else. You're reporting yourself when you go in. Like that's at least my perception of the Title IX Office. You are presumed to be guilty.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: As soon as they got the final documents that he had been convicted that's when they gave me accommodations and helped me to withdraw from classes and they didn't offer any of that until they had the court documentation.

CABRERA: Anger is growing.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I'm a sexual assault survivor. I was raped here in this community while I was attending BYU.

CABRERA (on camera): Did you report it?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: No, I did not for this exact reason.

CABRERA: You were too afraid?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yes.

[08:55:06]CABRERA (voice-over): (Inaudible) recently led a protest march through campus with a petition signed by more than 100,000 calling on the university to give immunity to those who report rape or sexual assault.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I'll be happy to take these and we'll personally deliver them.

CABRERA: The university says it is now studying current practices and procedures.

JENKINS: We want to look at the relationship between the Title IX Office and the Honor Code Office. We want to look at whether around how information is shared. We want to look at the perception that students have.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It's not a perception, it's something that's actually happening and that's them again not believing us.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I don't even know why they feel the need to do a study like there is overwhelming evidence. So many people have come forward.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It's just a school whose policies are very messed up right now and aren't in line with what love and mercy is.

CABRERA: Ana Cabrera, CNN, Utah.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

SAVIDGE: I don't know if you've been following the NFL draft, but even if you haven't, you probably heard about Laremy Tunsil and how the spotlight that shown on him this week was not what he could have imagined.

Up next, the latest on the social media hack that could cost him millions.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

[11:47:51]

SAVIDGE: It took just a split second, but it could cost one man millions of dollars. This is Laremy Tunsil, one of the best college football players in the entire country. And the University of Mississippi offensive tackle was expected to be one of the top picks in this year's draft.

But he ended up being picked 13th by the Miami Dolphins, after someone posted a video showing Tunsil allegedly smoking marijuana with a gas mask on. The clip was posted on his Twitter account after an apparent hack.

Tunsil, he's apologized saying the video was taken years ago and the Dolphins are comfortable having him on the team.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

MIKE TANNENBAUM, MIAMI DOLPHINS EXECUTIVE VP, FOOTBALL OPERATIONS: Obviously there was some mistakes he made in his past. We were comfortable with that. All the research we had done we're very comfortable with his character. The decision was made by the entire organization including our owner and comfortable with Laramie, the player and person.

(END VIDEO CLIP) SAVIDGE: "CNN Sports" analyst, Andy Scholes joins us now. Andy, this thing just -- I mean, it spiraled out of control.

ANDY SCHOLES, CNN SPORTS: It sure did, Martin, and you know, Tunsil was projected in all the mock drafts that we see to go sixth to the Baltimore Ravens and ended up falling to 13th. That drop right because of that video cost him about $8 million in salary over the next four years.

So a lot of money just because of that video and dropping from sixth to 13th. Of course, everyone wanted to hear what Tunsil had to say about all of this when he met with the media in Miami for the first time yesterday.

But he didn't show up on time because of a, quote, "allergic reaction." Now, when he did finally appear, Tunsil, he didn't want to answer any questions about the controversy. Take a listen.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

LAREMY TUNSIL, PICKED 13TH BY DOLPHINS: I don't know nothing about that, I'm here to talk about the Miami Dolphins. I'm just here to talk about the Miami Dolphins. I'm excited to be here and blessed opportunity to be in the NFL. Just to be a part of the Miami Dolphins organization.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

SCHOLES: Now, Tunsil's Instagram account was also hacked after he was drafted. In that hack someone posted an alleged conversation between Tunsil and an Ole Miss official where Tunsil asked for money to pay bills.

Now, after he was drafted, Tunsil did meet with some media and he admitted to taking money while he played at Ole Miss which, of course, is an NCAA violation.

[11:50:03]Ole Miss says they are currently investigating these new allegations but, man, supposed to be a great night. A dream come true and just turned into a nightmare.

SAVIDGE: Does anyone know who did this?

SCHOLES: There is speculation that it is Tunsil's stepfather. He and him filed domestic charges against each other in the past year over an altercation. Those were dropped but Tunsil's stepfather is currently suing him for attacking him and defamation right now. However, the stepfather has denied being any part of the hack. So in terms of who did it, it's still a complete misery.

SAVIDGE: All right, we'll look to hear more on that. Thank you very much, Andy.

Joining us now to sort all of this out is author and columnist, Christine Brennan and former NFL linebacker, Takeo Spikes, who played 15 years in the league and he joins us from the draft in Chicago. Takeo, let me ask you, how much damage has been done to this young man's career as a result of this?

TAKEO SPIKES, FORMER NFL LINEBACKER: It's a lot of damage that has been done. You look at it prior to the trade that the Rams made to take the number one spot, Tunsil, he was projected to be the best player in the draft so possibly he could have went number one.

And so when you look at from a money standpoint, the differential from number one going all the way to 13, I know from a slotted scale he was probably guaranteed scheduled to anywhere 25 plus million going as the number one pick, now going as the 13th pick of the NFL draft, he's lost a lot of money, 10 plus million dollars.

SAVIDGE: And, you know, clearly this is someone whoever did this knew what the impact was going to be. You played before social media was really an issue, but what do you think about what happened to this man? I mean, who is at fault? Should the sports teams not have reacted the way it appears they did?

SPIKES: Well, it's a lot of moving parts and a lot of things haven't been disclosed to us as we already know, but when you look at the big picture, I would like to think that his agent pretty much prepped him before he even got into this situation.

And I don't know whether or not when he came out from behind the curtains when the questions kept going and going and they asked him about, you know, the money being handed to him when he was at school, you know, he frazzled.

And I can't blame the kid, at least you know one thing about him, he's going to tell the truth but on the other hand, you can't blame him because, you know, he's already disappointed that he dropped ten slots in the draft.

And now you bring up a new topic to him something that probably was not discussed prior behind the curtains and so he panicked. But the way that he handled himself when he got to Miami for their press conference, that is the way that he should have handled himself at the draft here in Chicago.

SAVIDGE: Yes, to doubt. I mean, tremendous pressure placed suddenly upon this young man and literally at the last second. Christine, as we said, this isn't only a problem for him, perhaps the biggest part that's come out of all this, the revelation regarding the possibility of inappropriate funding, let's say, from Mississippi and they've already been in trouble, so how is that likely to play out?

CHRISTINE BRENNAN, "USA TODAY" SPORTS COLUMNIST: Martin, I think Ole Miss is in big trouble and may face NCAA sanctions over this. Keep in mind that Tunsil actually was suspended the first seven games of the 2015 season for taking loans and free housing and other things, a lot of inappropriate payments.

And so he has had a history here and there are critics and those who say they're kids and whatever, but ole Miss as he leaves Ole Miss, Ole Miss is in really big trouble and he leaves looking at the kind of the destruction in terms of a lot of the issues there for them moving forward with the NCAA.

And I think it's important to mention, Marty, that as bad as this is and that video of him smoking with the gas mask was really something to see, it wasn't just, he's smoking marijuana, look at how he's doing it.

I will say last year the number one pick in the draft was Jameis Winston, allegations of rape against the Heisman winner in that case and he was still picked number one.

So by comparison, looking at Tunsil versus Winston, the allegations against Tunsil while they're not good by any means certainly pale in comparison to the rape allegations against Jameis Winston.

SAVIDGE: Why do you think that is? What changed then in the year of time that between those two incidents?

BRENNAN: Well, I think what's happening is we get -- it's good in a way, Marty, because we get a chance to know as a lot about these athletes and maybe too much, we're certainly in an era where we know everything about everything.

And these athletes need to understand that and know that going forward this is what the future is going to look like. Don't be surprised by anything. Be ready for it. Their parents, their agents, their families need to understand and help them through this.

[11:55:07]The coaches as well and the teams and the Dolphins had the Richie Incognito thing a few years ago and now they are going to have this circus coming into their practice sessions and I think all these teams are pretty prepared for it, but this is a reality. There's no doubt about that.

SAVIDGE: There is no question that there are going to be a lot of lessons learned from this. Christine Brennan, thank you very much. Takeo Spikes, thank you as well for you.

We'll have much more ahead in the NEWSROOM. Stay here.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

SAVIDGE: Everybody, thanks for joining me. I'm Martin Savidge in for Fredricka Whitfield.

Donald Trump is on his way to Indiana after responding to the angry protests that greeted him last night in California. In a tweet today he said, quote, "Protesters in California were thugs and criminals. Many are professionals. They should be dealt with strongly by law enforcement," unquote.

Trump is hoping for a better reception in Indiana than he got in California. That angry throng of protesters outside the GOP state convention were there to greet him.

It got so bad his motorcade had to park on a nearby road and the Republican frontrunner had to literally sneak in by the back entrance.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

DONALD TRUMP (R), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: Boy, felt like I was crossing the border actually. You know. It's true. I was crossing the border then I got here.

(END VIDEO CLIP)