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Court Hearing Monday on Prince's Estate; Anti-Trump Protests Turn Violent; 7 Killed in Kenya Building Collapse; Obama Recalls Osama bin Laden Raid; GOP Women Respond to Trump's Attacks on Clinton; Hack Could Cost NFL Rookie Millions; Child Activist Convinces Obama to Go to Flint. Aired 7-8a ET

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[07:00:00] VICTOR BLACKWELL, CNN ANCHOR: Good Saturday morning to you.

Let's start with this.

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BLACKWELL: Look at this chaotic scene when hundreds of demonstrators stormed towards the California Republican convention yesterday to protest Donald Trump ahead of his speech, forced him and his entourage, his Secret Service in tow, to get out of the cars, abandoned the motorcade, climbed that embankment, crossed the street and walked into the hotel's back entrance.

We'll have more on that in just a moment.

ANA CABRERA, CNN ANCHOR: But first, what happens to Prince's estimated $300 million estate?

BLACKWELL: Yes, a court hearing on Monday will start to lead to an answer to that question. But it will be complicated, really complicated process because Prince's sister says he did not leave behind a will.

CNN's Sara Sidner is live in Chanhassen, Minnesota.

Sara, good morning to you.

This comes as law enforcement source tells CNN that Prince had prescription painkillers on him when he died.

SARA SIDNER, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Yes, that source said that he had on his person and also that they were in the house, as well.

We also learned what happened here at Paisley Park at this compound over the past five years when it comes to service calls to law enforcement. There were 47 service calls to law enforcement, four of which were medical emergency calls. One of those of course was the day that Prince was found dead inside the elevator. But the other three, we were trying to ascertain exactly what they

were. We know that he puts on parties here, for example. So it doesn't necessarily mean that they were for Prince himself. But there is a lot of concern now after hearing from sources that there were opioid-based pain medication on Prince's person and so, there is a lot of looking into that at this very point in time.

We do know -- we have learned, ascertained, at least one of those medical calls had something to do with the parties that he puts on for the public here, called during one of those parties and Prince wasn't involved. So, now, it is a question of what were the other two medical calls here.

All the rest of the calls were things like suspicious activity or harassing phone calls. And so, investigators are looking into all of that at this time.

Big question is, exactly what was in Prince's system, exactly what killed Prince -- and that information we may not know for the next several weeks as they work through the details on the toxicology report -- Victor, Ana.

BLACKWELL: Sara, we know that the death of a person inside their home, they're there alone, is typically the work of the local police department or county office. But we understand that the feds are joining in this investigation. Do we know why specifically?

SIDNER: Yes. The Drug Enforcement Administration has been called in by local sheriffs authorities who have been investigating this. And alongside them, they are going to work together on this. That may have a lot to do and tell you something about this opioid medication.

In this country, the DEA has been very, very, very loud and clear that there is an epidemic for these opioid pain-based medications. These medications are often used for severe pain, but they are very easy to get addicted to. This country certainly has an addiction to those medications.

And this happens to be the day when they are trying to tell people, look, if you have extra medication, like hydrocodone or OxyContin, that you don't need it still in your cupboard. Please send it in. This is your time to be able to get that out of your home, out of the reach of anyone who might be addicted to it, out of the reach of children.

So, they're really pushing forward for that. They are working on the front lines to stop this epidemic of addiction to these opioid-based painkillers.

We still don't know and want to be very clear about this what happened to Prince, whether it had anything to do with whether he was taking any of those opioid-based medications. But a source does tell us that they indeed found some of those medications in his home, on his body, and we're learning from investigators now, that so far, they have not been able to find evidence that he actually had a prescription for the pills that they found on him and in his home. We are continuing to look into the story -- Ana, Victor.

BLACKWELL: As you pointed out earlier, we have to wait for those toxicology reports and those typically can take several weeks to come back.

Sara Sidner there for us outside of Paisley Park -- thanks so much.

And we'll be talking more about this opioid epidemic throughout the morning.

Ahead, an officer, DEA officer, explains the challenge of trying to fight something that nearly 2 million people in this country are struggling with.

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CABRERA: Well, we can't go a day without talking politics and Donald Trump taking a break from campaigning today.

His last couple of events, however, have ignited some fierce protests in California. This was the scene there outside the California state convention for the Republican Party yesterday. He had trouble even getting there after hundreds of angry demonstrators, as you can see, blocked the road, even clashed with police at times.

[07:05:02] This forced Donald Trump to then sneak in the back way.

Didn't seem to faze Trump too much. He actually joked about the situation, saying he felt like an illegal immigrant crossing the border trying to get in. Now, he took a moment also to mention he has now crossed the 1,000-delegate milestone. Listen.

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DONALD TRUMP (R), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: We're going to hopefully close this thing out fairly soon. I think that now that we cracked the 1,000 number, which is great, right? No, it's great.

You know, it's interesting though, I'm up by 400 or so delegates. I'll be up by more than 500 when it's over and we'll be up by 5 million votes, OK? And we're going to break -- this coming week, we break the all-time record.

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CABRERA: All right. I want to bring in CNN producer Kristen Holmes.

Kristen, we now Ted Cruz is now set to address that same crowd at the GOP state convention in California today. What does Cruz need to do to slow down Trump? Can he at this point?

KRISTEN HOLMES, CNN WHITE HOUSE PRODUCER: Well, let's start with what he is going to do today in California. Now, campaign insiders tell us that he's also going to be giving a similar message to Trump of unity, only the difference is Cruz might say that Trump is -- that he's the only one who can unite the party, that Trump cannot unite the party. Other kind of story lines we've been hearing lately from Cruz in

Indiana, while he has been campaigning, have been that Trump is the ultimate Washington insider, that he is a bully. So, those are all things that we can look forward to today to having Cruz say.

Now, additionally, we have to look ahead to Tuesday which is the Indiana primary and how that's going to go. It was long thought that Cruz was going to sweep Indiana and now, the polls are showing Trump in the lead. That is where Cruz needs to be. That's where he needs to be campaigning, that's where he needs to be talking to people. He did get the governor's endorsement, Governor Mike Pence there in Indiana.

But he's going to spend a lot of time trying to get support, bringing Mike Pence on the road with him to campaign events. You know, that's 57 delegates. And as you said, Trump's numbers are up so those are delegates much need for the Cruz campaign.

CABRERA: How much is Indiana make or break for Trump to reach that 1,237 threshold?

HOLMES: Well, you know, actually, they're downplaying Indiana. It is not make or break at all. It is only 57 delegates and it's not winner take all. But even the campaign manager said this is Cruz's to lose, this is not something that we're all in on here.

But we have seen that Trump is paying for negative ads there which we know he doesn't pay for ads in every single state that he goes to. So, you know -- you know, but as soon as -- as we go to this detail of the delegates I'm going to let my colleague, Tom Foreman, break down how that delegate map works.

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TOM FOREMAN, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Trump could prove to be a record breaker in this GOP primary season. He already has roughly 10.1 million votes cast for him in all the primaries and caucuses, and there are only about 80 percent done. That compares very favorably to the total primary and caucus votes for some other recent contenders. Mitt Romney, for example, had 10.1 million votes. John McCain, 9.9 million votes, and George W. Bush, 12.6 million votes. That's more, ye but by the time the season is done, Trump very well could hit that number.

Granted, everyone here had a lot of people running against them when they started their campaigns. But, in the case of these three, the most robust competition dropped off earlier than it has against Donald Trump, so you can argue that he's actually won these votes while fighting longer and harder through a denser pack of contenders.

He does, however, have to bring over a lot more support if he's going to go to the general election if he becomes the nominee. Look at this. Yes, he has 10 million or so votes out there so far, but Ted Cruz has almost 7 million. John Kasich, more than 3.5 million. All the others combined, almost 5 million. Wrap that all together and what you have is more than 15 million

people who have voted in the Republican primary and caucus process who do not support Donald Trump. If he really wants to become the nominee and wants to make history, he's going to have to get an awful lot of those people up into his camp.

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CABRERA: All right. Our thanks to Tom Foreman and Kristen Holmes.

Ahead on your NEW DAY, a deadly building collapse in Kenya. You've got to see the pictures here coming in of survivors being pulled from the rubble, even a young baby being pulled out. Others still fear trapped though.

CABRERA: Plus, more politics. And the negative Trump ad against Ted Cruz about outsourcing jobs in Indiana. But is it effective given the state's history on jobs?

BLACKWELL: And later, President Obama 8-year-old Flint, Michigan girl, after she wrote a letter to the president about the water crisis there. I spoke with her and her mother. We'll hear from them just ahead.

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[07:10:01] UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I think it is going to give people hope. I mean personally I think it is going to make her feel like her voice really can make a difference, she can make a change and she can help her entire city.

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TRUMP: He has no path to victory. It's impossible for him to win with the votes. The only way he can possible win is if things go terribly wrong and he goes through the back door and he bought all of these delegates and I will never use the word "bribe." I would never use a word like bribe! So if he bribed the delegates, but I don't call it bribed.

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BLACKWELL: He says he didn't use the word but he said it three or four times.

Donald Trump calling Ted Cruz a cheat who might bribe his way to the nomination. Now, just three days ahead of the Indiana primary, he's also released a new ad slamming Cruz for what he calls job-killing deals.

We'll talk about that in just a moment with Jeffrey Lord, CNN political commentator, a former Reagan White House political director, who is a Donald Trump supporter. I think anybody who watches CNN knows that by now.

And, Ben Ferguson, CNN political commentator and a Ted Cruz supporter.

Good morning to both of you.

BEN FERGUSON, TED CRUZ SUPPORTER: Good morning.

JEFFREY LORD, DONALD TRUMP SUPPORTER. Good morning, Victor and Ben.

BLACKWELL: Good morning to you.

I want to start with you, Ben, and what Ted Cruz said last night on FOX News. Let's play that, guys.

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SEN. TED CRUZ (R-TX), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: It gives me great comfort that this primary is going to be decided by the Midwestern common sense of the Hoosier State.

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BLACKWELL: The primary's going to be decided by the Hoosier State. Ben, if Senator Cruz does not do well, should that wrap up his campaign and will it effectively wrap up the Cruz campaign?

FERGUSON: Well, I think Ted Cruz is a realist. He realizes that Indiana is the place where they are probably going to decide exactly who the nominee is going to be. Obviously delegate numbers matter ultimately, but this is a place Ted Cruz is going all in. That's part of the reason he decided to bring Carly Fiorina on the campaign and do it in the state so they could have two events at the same time with two different people out there representing the campaign.

They also understand there is a vulnerabilities of Donald Trump and those vulnerabilities in the Hoosier State are, one, among women. Many women find the rhetoric of Donald Trump to be incredibly text sexist.

And the other issue is the issue of jobs, because I think as much as Donald Trump wants to claim he's going to bring jobs back to America, he's not done that. In fact he's done the complete opposite of that with his own business dealings. He exports everything he possibly can with his own personal business.

So, those are two arguments that are going to be made. I think very clearly before Tuesday. Carly is going to be a part of that and I think Ted Cruz understands it's important right now.

BLACKWELL: Jeffrey, let me come to you.

The campaign, the Trump campaign downplaying Indiana a bit. Ted Cruz has now named his running mate, has this deal with John Kasich that Kasich will clear the path for him there.

What's the expectation heading into Tuesday of how well Donald Trump will do? Can he win Indiana?

LORD: Sure, he can win Indiana. But the key thing here is, even if he doesn't win Indiana, he is still well-positioned to win. He's very much ahead in New Jersey. He's ahead in California. This is going to go -- could go all the way to June 7th. That's entirely possible.

On the other hand, if he does win Indiana, that's pretty much it for Ted Cruz. There's just not going to be much room for him to go anywhere after that.

BLACKWELL: All right. Ben, let me come to you with this endorsement yesterday from Indiana Governor Mike Pence. Let's watch it. He did it on a radio show. We'll talk on the other side.

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GOV. MIKE PENCE (R), INDIANA: I've come to my decision about who I'm supporting. I'm not against anybody but I will be voting for Ted Cruz in the upcoming Republican primary. I see Ted Cruz as a principled conservative who's dedicated his career to advocating the Reagan agenda. And I'm pleased to support him.

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BLACKWELL: All right. So, Ben, Governor Pence didn't endorse Ted Cruz alongside Cruz and Fiorina. He said he isn't against anybody. He actually praised Donald Trump, it looked as if he was checking notes there for the reason he was endorsing. I mean, was his enthusiastic enough to sway anybody?

FERGUSON: Well, look, he ultimately said I'm voting for Ted Cruz and I'm not voting for Donald Trump.

BLACKWELL: He also said -- he also urged other Hoosiers to make up their own mind. He didn't even ask anybody to join him.

FERGUSON: Sure. But, look, I think he's a governor that understands this is a very divisive primary. The entire state is heavily involved in this and he's probably being a little bit smart and being tempered in the way he does things only because he doesn't want to alienate his own supporters when he's up for re-election.

And Trump supporters are very intense supporters. And if they're mad at you, they hate you. I get it every single day.

Jeffrey, you know how much crap I take on Twitter just for even questioning Donald Trump. This is a governor who ultimately said very clearly, "I am going to vote for Ted Cruz. I think he is a Reagan conservative." In other words, I'm not buying what Donald Trump is selling.

So I do think this will have a big impact, and I do think that this was an endorsement. He wouldn't have done this radio show, which has a lot of coverage. One of the reasons why he did the radio show was because he knew that it would have a huge impact. That is a radio station has a large audience of conservative voters

and he decided to take it to the voters directly in his state and not do some big grand event. He did it to the people that are going to vote, not to a bunch of people that aren't going to vote.

LORD: Victor?

BLACKWELL: Jeffrey, go ahead.

LORD: Yes. One of the things that Governor Pence is very cautiously walking around here is all this support for Donald Trump. I live here in Pennsylvania where we had our primary.

Donald Trump carried -- we have 67 counties in Pennsylvania. Donald Trump carried all 67 of them. I have to tell you as a Pennsylvanian, I can find no precedent in either the Republican or Democratic Party where any candidate for president or statewide office ever carried all 67 counties.

What that says is of course there are millions of people out there who believe in Donald Trump and agree with his message. So, Governor Pence correspondingly is clearly well aware of this. As Ben says, he's got his own political future to consider. You don't want to get on the wrong side of these folks.

BLACKWELL: There are many GOP politicians who will find themselves in difficult positions moving forward who will be on the ballot in November and those who will not be.

Jeffrey Lord, Ben Ferguson, thanks so much.

FERGUSON: Thanks.

LORD: Thanks, Victor. Thanks, Ben.

BLACKWELL: Unfortunately, we didn't have time to get to the ad. We'll try to get to it later in the show.

But this programming note, Ted Cruz is Jake Tapper's guest Sunday morning, 9:00 a.m. Eastern, right here on CNN, on "STATE OF THE UNION".

Ana?

CABRERA: And still ahead here, you have to see these dramatic images. Heart-wrenching pictures coming out of Nairobi, Kenya, this morning.

At least seven people are dead, more than 100 injured after a building collapse.

[07:20:00] Up next, a live report from Nairobi on the rescue efforts and scramble to pull more people trapped in that rubble.

Also ahead, the war on terror and the takedown of Osama bin Laden. A CNN exclusive report on how the capture played out.

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CABRERA: You can just feel the emotion there, as we continue to follow this breaking news out of Kenya. A glimmer of hope now in the devastation there hours after a seven-story building collapsed in Nairobi. Cheers erupting as that little girl, baby girl, and another young child are pulled alive from the rubble. There is still a fear though that other buildings could collapse.

This is all after it was revealed now that this destroyed apartment building that collapsed had been condemned but the warnings ignored.

BLACKWELL: Let's go to Robyn Kriel. She's there for us reporting from Nairobi.

What's the latest now for us, Robyn?

ROBYN KRIEL, CNN CORRESPONDENT (via telephone): Victor, Kenya's president, Uhuru Kenyatta, has just left the site of that collapsed apartment building and he had some stern words for government officials there, telling them to find out who in that area, if there are more unsafe buildings in that area under threat of collapsing, that they should move people out of those buildings and move them to safe areas.

As you say, this building was condemned by the National Construction Authority but that order was ignored and people went ahead and moved in anyway.

[07:25:01] And what you do find is that that happens a lot. There is such demand for housing here, especially low-income housing, as is the case in this case, in these slums near Nairobi City center that people will literally live anywhere just to pay low rent and to try to survive. So, we also understand that according to an eyewitness, the building was shaking a couple days earlier.

Just to set the context for you, it's been pouring with rain for days here in Nairobi flooding across the city. And you saw from that incredible footage people being pulled out alive, seven dead at the moment. Rescue efforts are ongoing. The military is there, Kenyan Red Cross is there but the concern is that there are still people alive and the concern is that there may be many children because there were a number of children's backpacks and shoes littering the ground outside this collapsed apartment building.

CABRERA: Robyn Kriel reporting for us from Nairobi, Kenya, is where this is all happening this morning -- thank you.

BLACKWELL: Ahead on NEW DAY, the first Zika virus death in the U.S. We'll tell you where it struck and details behind that death.

CABRERA: Plus, in the wake of Trump's attacks that Hillary Clinton is playing the, quote, "woman card," this sparking a fierce backlash. We'll hear from a group of conservative women in Indiana who had a lot to say about it.

But, first, here is a look at your mortgage rates this week. (COMMERCIAL BREAK)

BLACKWELL: Half past the hour now. And this weekend marks the fifth anniversary of the killing of 9/11 mastermind Osama bin Laden.

[07:35:05] Now, for the first time, President Obama is sitting down inside the Situation Room to describe that raid.

CABRERA: And the president tells CNN why May 2nd, 2011 might have been the U.S.'s last chance to get bin Laden and why the stakes were even higher if that mission had failed.

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BARACK OBAMA, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: After the discussions with the principals, it was clear to me that this was going to be our best chance to get bin Laden, that if in fact we did not take the action that he might slip away and might be years before he resurfaced. I had confidence that we could get our guys back. We knew that it was going to cause me significant blowback within Pakistan, and that if it wasn't bin Laden, probably the costs without benefits. We would lose face internationally because there was probably going to be a lot difficulty keeping it secret once the operation started.

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BLACKWELL: Watch the rest of that interview on Monday night when CNN airs "We Got Him: President Obama, Bin Laden and the Future of the War on Terror." Again, that's Monday at 8:00 p.m. Eastern, right here on CNN.

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CABRERA: This week, Republican front-runner Donald Trump is doubling down on the accusations that Hillary Clinton is playing the, quote, "woman card." Some political analysts think that might be a risky strategy.

BLACKWELL: Yes, a recent Gallup poll says 70 percent of women have an unfavorable view of Donald Trump. So, we asked our Randi Kaye to see what Republican women voted in Tuesday's Indiana primary think about the gender war that's being waged.

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RANDI KAYE, CNN CORRESPONDENT: When I say Donald Trump, what's the first word that comes to mind?

UNDENTIFIED FEMALE: Powerful.

UNDENTIFIED FEMALE: Scary.

UNDENTIFIED FEMALE: Surprising.

UNDENTIFIED FEMALE: Dangerous. UNDENTIFIED FEMALE: No way.

UNDENTIFIED FEMALE: Divisive.

KAYE (voice-over): Six Republican women from Indiana weighing in on Donald Trump's comments about women and his suggestion that Hillary Clinton is playing the women's card.

DONALD TRUMP (R), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: Frankly, if Hillary Clinton were a man, I don't think she'd get 5 percent of the vote. The only thing she's got going is the woman's card.

UNDENTIFIED FEMALE: That's insulting regardless of how you feel about Hillary Clinton to imply that her background as a U.S. senator and secretary of state give her zero qualifications? And Trump's assertion that only -- Hillary would only have the support of 5 percent of the population is ridiculous. Who does he think the rest of her supporters would go for? Him?

UNDENTIFIED FEMALE: I don't think these comments are helpful to him or to his campaign. However, I still believe he is still playing the theatrical card.

UNDENTIFIED FEMALE: I'm scared to death of a person setting that tone.

KAYE: Some of these women are willing to overlook his comments because they think he is strong on the economy and jobs. Though after calling Megyn Kelly crazy and making fun of Carly Fiorina's face, some here are surprised Trump is still on top. JUDY SINGLETON, REPUBLICAN VOTER: I thought when he made those

derogatory remarks about Carly Fiorina's personal stature and her beauty, that would sink him.

KAYE: In fact, some in our group said they'd still support Trump, even after comments he made to Howard Stern years ago. The men were talking about women in the beauty pageant Trump once owned.

TRUMP: First of all, she's unbelievably short and I'm a little bit surprised. I think the boob job is terrible. They look like two blight bulbs coming out of a body.

SINGLETON: I call this cocktail talk and he just doesn't know any better.

JANNA URBAHNS, REPUBLICAN VOTER: Though is he talking about contestants in the pageant. It is another way to get people to watch the pageant.

MOLLY DEUBERY, REPUBLICAN VOTER: Ladies, I can't believe you're excusing his behavior as the world of business or as good old boys network. I mean, those are the exact same justifications used for sexual harassment for years. To use the word "boobs" several times, that's not promoting the paneling intelligent.

KAYE (on camera): These comments would not prevent you from voting for Donald Trump?

UNDENTIFIED FEMALE: No, they will not.

KAYE (voice-over): Brenda Gerber Vincent is disgusted by all of Trump's comments about women but is still considering him for president.

(on camera): Is there anything he could do to win your vote?

BRENDA GERBER VINCENT, REPUBLICAN VOTER: We're smart. I mean, we're really smart. We understand policy. We understand what's necessary for the country to move forward. We understand economic development. Start speaking to us as partners.

TRUMP: Thank you, everybody.

KAYE (voice-over): In the end though, Trump may drive some of these Republican women to vote Democratic.

(on camera): If Donald Trump is the nominee, would any of you consider voting for Hillary Clinton, voting Democratic?

UNDENTIFIED FEMALE: No.

KAYE: Molly says yes.

DEUBERY: Yes.

[07:35:01] I am undecided of what I will do in the fall, if Trump is the nominee.

KAYE: So you may actually vote for the other party.

DEUBERY: I may.

KAYE (voice-over): Randi Kaye, CNN, Indianapolis.

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BLACKWELL: And Hillary Clinton's campaign is quickly capitalizing on Trump's "woman card" comment. Her website offering there an actual tangible "woman card" to supporters in exchange for a donation.

CABRERA: Let's talk more about this escalating gender war between Trump and Clinton.

Here with me now, CNN political commentator, Errol Louis.

Errol, Hillary Clinton spoke with our Jake Tapper yesterday and asked about Donald Trump's tactics, specifically his comments about the woman card and his name-calling, calling her crooked Hillary.

Listen to this.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) HILLARY CLINTON (D), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: I have a lot of experience dealing with men who sometimes get off the reservation in the way they behave and how they speak. I'm not going to deal with their temper tantrums or their bullying or their efforts to try to provoke me.

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CABRERA: Errol, how she talks about this is kind of interesting. "The New York Times" reporting that Clinton advisors are saying she has to sort of ward off Trump's attacks without overplaying her hand. Is that what she was doing in her response?

ERROL LOUIS, CNN POLITICAL COMMENTATOR: Yes. I think she's doing what Carly Fiorina did in one of the more interesting exchanges during the debates where she sort of signals to women -- because women get this -- Hillary Clinton signals to women, look, we know what this is. This is bullying. This is men acting like jerks.

There is no reason to respond and there is no reason really to elaborate on it because everybody kind of knows what she's talking about. We've all seen this year after year after year and in this case, you have Donald Trump's own words to sort of impeach him on the subject where he's called women, you know, fat pigs and disgusting animals and slobs and on and on and on and on. You know, it's not that hard to make the connection for people.

CABRERA: Do people unfairly scrutinize every word in some way or treat Hillary Clinton different because she's a woman, do you think?

LOUIS: Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. I mean no question about it.

There is a whole archive actually of different statements and so forth up on the web if people want to go and find it where she wears a particular blouse and then there's a whole news cycle of discussion about her cleavage. That was from back in 2007.

She'll make a comment that gets seized upon and people just go crazy with it. And how much discussion has there been about the clothes that she wears? I mean, it's there. It's something she's had to deal with I think a lot of professional women understand what that's all about. And she's gotten pretty good at throwing it back at some of the men who try to use this as a tactic.

So, I'd say Donald Trump should be a little bit careful about how he does this. The discussion that you just showed with Republican women shows that not everybody is thrilled with this idea of flinging sexist comments or overlooking them and just going to Election Day without it being a factor.

CABRERA: Let me flip it and reverse that. If somebody were to say he's just playing the man card, how would we react?

LOUIS: Well, you know, I mean it's interesting, because there is some of that at play right here, to tell you the truth. I mean, Donald Trump is a very wealthy man. He has never held public office. He has never run for public office. He has never done most of the things that we associate with presidential candidates, and Hillary Clinton has.

So, for him to simply -- with bluff and bluster kind of say, I'm the guy, I can run the world, I know about foreign policy, we would never let a woman get away with that. So he's making good use of the man card, you might say.

CABRERA: And is that why we're seeing him attack her for being a woman or say she's using a woman card instead of attacking her positions or her experience?

LOUIS: Well, I mean, look. Some of this is just genuine. When you talk about women in the way that he has consistently over the years, there might be something personal going on there.

But in addition to that, I think Republicans know that the Democrats are going to come at them. They've done it for the last three presidential cycles, at least, sort of pointing out and pulling over women to their side, pointing out issues of women's right to choose, pointing out pay discrepancies, pay equity issues. It has worked for Democrats, and Republicans, you know, can sort of flinch almost knowing that it is coming. This is an unusual way to try and take it head-on, but that might be what Donald Trump is trying to do.

CABRERA: It will be interesting to see if he has anything extra up his sleeve, come the general election, which I'm sure he does, or at least in the works strategizing as we speak. Thank you so much, Errol Louis, for joining us. We appreciate it.

LOUIS: Thank you.

CABRERA: And just a quick programming note for you -- Hillary Clinton will join Jake Tapper on "STATE OF THE UNION" on Sunday morning at 9:00 a.m. Eastern, right here on CNN.

Victor?

BLACKWELL: Ahead on NEW DAY, a top NFL pick potentially loses millions because of one tweet.

[07:40:05] Next, we'll tell you what was posted.

And after that, $500 million worth of ivory about to go up in smoke. Why Kenya says it needs to burn these tusks.

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BLACKWELL: A social media hack could end up costing a college football player millions of dollars.

CABRERA: But he says now he just wants to focus on his new team.

Andy Scholes is joining us.

This player has a little bit of drama. ANDY SCHOLES, CNN SPORTS CORRESPONDENT: The first round of the NFL

draft has never seen this much drama. All surrounding Ole Miss star Laremy Tunsil. He was projected to go sixth to the Ravens in many mock drafts but he dropped all the way to 13 because of the Miami Dolphins and is going to end -- winding up losing around $8 million because of that draft.

Now, this is what went down on Thursday night. Just minutes before the draft started, a video appeared on Tunsil's Twitter account showing him wearing a gas mask with a bong attached to it. Now, Tunsil says he was hacked. His attorney calls it "a sad saga and it was obvious he was getting bushwhacked."

Now, there was even more drama during his introductory news conference in Miami yesterday. He was an hour and a half late due to, quote, "an allergic reaction." Now, when he finally appeared, Tunsil didn't want to answer any questions about the controversy.

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LAREMY TUNSIL, PICKED 13TH BY DOLPHINS: I don't know nothing about that, man. I'm here to talk about the Miami Dolphins. I'm just here to talk about the Miami Dolphins. I'm excited to be here. It is a blessed opportunity just to be in the NFL, man, just to be a part of Miami Dolphins organization.

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SCHOES: Now, Tunsil's Instagram was also hacked after he was drafted. In that hack, someone posted an alleged conversation between Tunsil and an Ole Miss official where Tunsil asked for money to pay bills. After the draft, Tunsil admitted to taking money while at Ole Miss which, of course, is an NCAA violation. Ole Miss says they're investigating these new allegations.

Now, guys, as to who hacked Tunsil, still a mystery. Tunsil's stepfather who is currently suing him, people thought it was him at first. Well, he denies hacking social media accounts. So, right now, we still have no idea who did it and the mystery continues.

BLACKWELL: Why don't they just get off of social media?

SCHOLES: Delete the Instagram accounts. Verify Twitter should go as well.

BLACKWELL: No Snapchat. You can't even text me. After all of it, no.

SCHOLES: If something cost me $8,000, let alone $8 million, I would get rid of it.

BLACKWELL: What about what he has done throughout the course of his football career? I mean it's a little --

SCHOLES: He's made a lot of bad decisions, for sure. He's still a millionaire living in Miami though. Not too bad. BLACKWELL: Andy, thanks.

SCHOLES: All right.

BLACKWELL: President Obama is set to visit Flint, Michigan, to get a first-hand look at the water crisis there. We'll meet the 8-year-old activist whose letter apparently motivated the president to make that trip.

CABRERA: Also ahead, the final White House Correspondents' Dinner of Mr. Obama's presidency is tonight. Comedian Larry Wilmore is going to share his thoughts about hosting this high-profile event.

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[07:50:05] BLACKWELL: President Obama will visit Flint, Michigan, Wednesday for the first time since that city's toxic water crisis, and it all may be thanks to one special little girl, 8-year-old Mari Copeny. And she wrote a letter to the president to tell him about how she is working to bring attention to her city's water crisis.

Now, initially, Mari asked to meet the Obamas in Washington. The president wrote her back and said, "I'll come to you".

I spoke with Mari and her mother Lulu Brezzell.

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BLACKWELL: Mari Copeny and Lulu Brezzell, good morning to you.

LOUI "LULU" BREZZELL, DAUGHTER WROTE LETTER TO PRESIDENT OBAMA: Good morning.

MARI COPENY, WROTE LETTR TO PRESIDENT OBAMA ABOUT FLINT WATER CRISIS: Good morning.

BLACKWELL: So, Mari, I have your letter in front of me, but I'd like to ask you before I read a little of it, why did you write to President Obama?

COPENY: We were going to Washington, D.C., but we just wanted to write a letter because we wanted to tell the president that we were coming down to D.C. and we wanted to meet them, but we didn't get to meet them.

BLACKWELL: Now, in part of the letter you write, "I am one of the children affected by this water and I've been doing my best to march and protest and speak out for all of the kids that live here in Flint. Tell me about some of the things you've been doing to bring attention to the water crisis where you live.

COPENY: We marched in rallies, I went down to D.C. I made a video.

BLACKWELL: You made a video too. And the president wrote back.

Let's put up a bit of what the president wrote. He wrote that "I am so proud of you for using your voice to speak out on behalf of the children of Flint. That's why I want you to be the first to know that I'm coming to visit Flint on May 4th. I want to make sure people like you and your family are receiving the help you need and deserve."

When you got that letter from President Obama, what did that feel like? What did you think?

COPENY: Super excited.

BLACKWELL: Super excited.

Mom, what did you think?

BREZZELL: I was in disbelief.

BLACKWELL: Yes. Mari wrote in the letter that the chances are that the president will be too busy. You know, so many have called for the president, Lulu, to come to Flint and it was your daughter's letter that got him to do it. I mean, what does this mean to you, to the people of Flint?

BREZZELL: I think it's going to give the people hope. I mean, personally, I think it's going to make her feel like her voice really can make a difference. She can make a change and she can help her entire city.

BLACKWELL: Yes, for people who know of the crisis but don't know the particulars, give us an inside look at what it's like to not only live without usable at water in your house, but to raise child in that condition.

BREZZELL: We don't use the water for anything, so imagine every time you want to cook, you have to open up bottles and bottles of water just to boil, say, a pot of spaghetti. When you're going to give your kid a bath, if you're going to use the city water, you have to bathe them as quick as possible to avoid getting rashes. So boiling gallons of water if you want to take a bubble bath which is something kids love to do. Teaching your kids that they can't get into the water, otherwise it will make them sick, it's been horrible.

BLACKWELL: And, Mari, what do you want to tell the president when he comes to Flint?

COPENY: That the water is super bad. And it has lead in the water and poison.

BLACKWELL: I hear you also excited. I'm not sure if he's going to bring them, but you're excited to meet the first family's dogs as well?

COPENY: Uh-huh.

BLACKWELL: That perked you up. You're looking forward to meeting the dogs.

Well, Mari Copeny and Lulu Brezzell, thank you so much for spending some time with us, and congratulations on getting a response from the president and a big day ahead for you this week. Enjoy it.

BREZZELL: Thank you.

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CABRERA: Cool moment for that family.

President Obama tonight before he heads to Flint is going to preside over the final White House Correspondents Dinner. This is that must- attend event of the year for Washington's elite. It nearly always results in memorable moments, funny lines.

Tonight's host is a comedian Larry Wilmore who spoke with our John Berman about why hosting this year's dinner is so important to him.

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LARRY WILMORE, COMEDIAN: When everything is stripped away years from now, they always judge presidents in history and all that. I feel like no matter what President Obama's policies do, whether they end up being good or bad, just the fact of his presidency is going to far outweigh everything.

And as a black man who is the same age as the president, we've kind of had similar paths in the career, I've got to show, oh wait, he's the president. I'm the exact same age. It never occurred to me as a kid who grew up at a time when a black man couldn't even be a quarterback of a football team, like that was heretical, that was a crazy idea, you know, in terms of leadership.

[07:55:13] And now to see one as the president of the United States, it's huge. So, on a personal level, his presidency means a lot to me.

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CABRERA: You can tune in tonight at 7:00 p.m. Eastern for our coverage of the annual White House Correspondents' Dinner.

BLACKWELL: Still ahead, the divide and conquer deal between Ted Cruz and John Kasich, was it a mistake? Next hour, I'll ask supporters on both sides what they think of this survival strategy.

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BLACKWELL: The CDC is confirming the first death related to the Zika virus in the U.S. or U.S. territories. The federal health agency says a 70-year-old man in Puerto Rico had been treated for the disease. That was in February, but he later died from complications caused by the Zika virus.

CABRERA: Millions of dollars worth of ivory and other elicit goods are going to go up in smoke. Kenya says the elephant tusks must be torched to send a message about the poaching crisis in that country. We'll show you the burn coming up next hour.

There's a lot of news to tell you about this morning. BLACKWELL: Next hour of your NEW DAY starts right now.

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BLACKWELL: You hear them there, the cheers from the rescue workers as that baby girl is pulled alive from the rubble of a collapsed building in Kenya and there were other children pulled alive from that rubble. CNN is live in Nairobi where unfortunately the death toll is climbing as crews you see here are continuing to dig for survivors.