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Leicester City Wins the Premier League Title; Olympic Torch Will Arrive in Brazil Soon; Venezuela in Economic Meltdown; Indiana Primary Preview; Working on Syria Cease Fire; Prince Estate Subject of Family Squabble; Astronomers Find Three More Earth-Like Planets. Aired 12-1a ET

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[00:00:12] JOHN VAUSE, CNN ANCHOR: This is "CNN Newsroom" live from Los Angeles; ahead this hour:

ISHA SESAY, CNN ANCHOR: Ultimate underdogs no more, Leicester City wins the premiere league title in one of the greatest sports stories of all time.

VAUSE: Venezuela on the verge of collapse. Daily blackouts, food shortages, triple digit inflation, and now a push to oust President Maduro.

SESAY: Plus, Indiana Eve for the neverTrump movement, Tuesday's primary could be their final stand.

VAUSE: Hello, everybody; we'd like to welcome our viewers all around the world. Great to have you with us. I'm John Vause.

SESAY: And I'm Isha Sesay; Newsroom L.A. starts right now.

VAUSE: Let's start with what's being called the greatest underdog story in sports history.

[Cheering]

VAUSE: Perennial war flower, Leicester City is on top of the football world after they secured the English Premiere League title Monday.

SESAY: It's really hard to overstate just how unexpected the success has been. They were dead last in the standings last season, barely avoiding relegation to a lower division.

Well, as you might imagine, this is an incredibly exciting time in Leicester City. Fans are celebrating in the streets. Multiple generations have been waiting all their lives to finally call them (inaudible) champions. Our Christina McFarland saw the mood there firsthand.

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CHRISTINA MCFARLAND, CNN CORRESPONDENT: That is an Algerian flag that's just been waved in front of me in honor of Riyad Mahrez, of course. The players themselves are not far from here. They're at Jamie Vardy's house, about a ten minute drive down the road. We heard that Claudio Ranieri has flown back to Leicester City from Italy especially for this moment.

If you can see just what it means to these fans. No firm plans yet; we're not entirely sure what the official celebrations will be. We expect there would be a victory parade on the streets of Leicester at the end of the season, but as for the party here, it's going to carry on for some hours here to come; a carnival atmosphere.

This is Christina McFarland from the champions of the English Premiere League in Leicester.

[Cheering]

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VAUSE: On the season's opening day, Leicester was 5,000:1 to win the title. In other words, the bookies thought Lady Gaga had a better shot at becoming U.S. president in 2020, with odds at 500:1. This win by Leicester is one of the greatest underdog victories in the history of the known universe. It's also a really bad day for some bookies.

World Sports Anchor Don Riddell is with us now to tell us how they managed to pull it off. Don, explain as best you can how did they do it?

DON RIDDELL, ANCHOR, CNN WORLD SPORTS, via satellite: How long have you got? Where do you want me to start? I mean, there are so many reasons to explain why Leicester City managed to do this. They had great scouting, they unearthed some really hidden gems: guys like N'Golo Kante, Riyad Mahrez, Jamie Vardy. They got these bought these guys for peanuts and turned them into absolute world beaters.

The team is superbly managed by Claudio Ranieri, a manager who pretty much the rest of the footballing world had written off as being past his best. He was considered a bit of a joke when he was hired by Leicester; but, boy, has he had the last laugh. He organized his team. They played tactically fantastic throughout the season.

I will say that the teams you would have expected to challenge for the title, like Man City, Chelsea, Manchester United, they all had an off year. That is very, very unusual. I don't think that will happen again, but take nothing away from Leicester. They deserve it this year, John.

VAUSE: So just explain how all of this worked because at the end of the day, the win, essentially, came down to a match between Tottenham and Chelsea which was a draw.

RIDDELL: Yes, in the advent of the TV era, teams don't all play at the same time anymore. So Leicester had the night off and Tottenham, who were their greatest rivals, the only team that could catch them, had to go to Chelsea and had to beat Chelsea at Stanford Bridge in order to prolong this title race for at least another week. Now, Spurs hadn't won at Chelsea for some 26 years. They thought they were going to do it tonight. They actually went 2-0 up and seemed to be coasting. That didn't mean Tottenham was going to win the title, but it meant that this thing was going to last maybe just a little bit longer. But in in the end, Chelsea came back and stunned them with a couple of goals and that changed everything. So without having to kick a ball, Leicester won the title with two games to spare.

VAUSE: If you look back on the season, it's incredible because Leicester, [00:05:01] they spent week after week on the top of the standings. Everyone, I guess, was waiting for them to fall but they just never did.

RIDDLE: Yes; I mean, it was incredible that they were at the top in the first place. You are absolutely right, everybody just thought, they're going to crack. They're going to -- eventually they're going to realize that they don't belong there and they didn't; and that's all credit to them. This is a team -- a very small squad, a very compact unit, very well managed. Just a great spirit about them and just when the pressure was being ramped up in the last few weeks, they kept it together. They didn't crack. They kept on going and that's a great testament to the players and, of course, the manager Claudio Ranieri, who kept them all going.

These players are fantastic players. A lot of us hadn't heard of them before the season or a couple of years ago.

VAUSE: Yes.

RIDDLE: They have proved themselves to be well-beaters.

VAUSE: And next year, Leicester will make it, what, its first appearance in the (Inaudible) Champions Leagues? How truly out of the ordinary will it be to see Leicester playing giants like Barcelona and Real Madrid?

RIDDLE: It's going to be out of the ordinary, as you say. I think if the fans and players -- if it hasn't sunk in for them now, it certainly will the day that Real Madrid comes to play at the King Power Stadium or when Leicester maybe will go to (inaudible) Barcelona. I think that's the day when they will realize just what they've accomplished.

They would be doing that anyway; by finishing in the top three they had guaranteed the right to play in the Champions League the next season, whether or not they won the title. That is going to be truly extraordinary and it means that whatever happens in the Premiere League next season, these fans are going to be in dream land for at least one more year, because they are going to absolutely dine out on that Champions League experience.

VAUSE: And just very quickly, looking forward to next season, the bookies now have less than 20:1 to win back to back titles?

RIDDLE: Yes, they have learned their lesson. They will not get taken to the cleaners like they did this time, 5,000:1. I heard one estimate from the bookie William Hill that the English bookmakers, between them, are going to lose $22 million on this result. They have been absolutely ravaged. So, yes, only 20 or 25 to on next year, but get this, John, they still think Leicester are more likely to be relegated next year than they think is likely they will win the title.

VAUSE: Wow.

RIDDLE: So they're still not exactly backing Leicester to succeed, but certainly the odd have been slashed from 5000:1.

VAUSE: Absolutely. You know, it's an incredible moment in sport that you very rarely get to see and enjoy. Don, great to speak with you; thank you.

RIDDLE: Yes; sure.

VAUSE: Well Leicester City come from behind, against all odds win is the stuff sporting legends are made of.

SESAY: Many people are asking, rightfully so, if the Foxes story might be the best of them all.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: At the start of the season, who would have thought it? Leicester, known for crisps, were an eye watering 5,000:1 to win the English Premiere League. To put this into perspective, at 500:1 we had Lady Gaga to be U.S. president in 2020. At 5,000:1 we had Elvis Presley to be proved to be alive. But is this football's greatest underdog story. Nottingham, known for Robin Hood, had a (inaudible) that only used 17 players in their entire title winning season. La Coruna, known for being founded by Hercules, had Deportivo team that spectacularly broke the Real Madrid and FC Barcelona (inaudible).

Montpellier known for its wines, blew away their moneybag rivals for the stunning title charge on a shoestring budget. Denmark, known for back, hadn't even qualified for the 1992 Euros. They were sunning themselves on the beach but exterior political forces changed all that. They unfancied Danes were back in the fold and never looked back. Greece, known for the Acropolis and a team who never won a tournament game in their history, turned events on defense on their way to Euro 2004 triumph.

What makes Leicester the greatest triumph of all is many tipped them for relegation at the start of the season, so much so they weren't even worth a bet.

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SESAY: What a remarkable story. Well Leicester City has strong ties to Thailand thanks to an owner that grew up there. Our Saima Mohsin joins us now with more from Bangkok.

Saima, good to have you with us. What does Leicester's win mean for Thailand and the beautiful game there?

SAIMA MOHSIN, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Yes, it's extraordinary, Isha. It really has cemented football, if you will, as the second -- still second favorite sport in Thailand. Of course, Mai Tai boxing is the first, but it really is incredible.

I was here for the World Cup, I love football myself, small disclosure, I'm a Crystal Palace fan but I would go to every match and I would see Thai people coming out to watch the matches. But, really, I haven't seen anything like [00:10:02] I've seen on Sunday night when Leicester were playing, of course, and then last night when Spurs were playing.

Most people, it was 3:00 in the morning, they were staying at home, but they were very busy on social media, making (inaudible) Chelsea Football Club, giving a crown to Claudio Ranieri, and, of course, Mr. Vichai, the $57 million spender who bought that club and took it to win the Premiership title.

Also, of course, it means a lot of money and it means a lot of respect for Thailand. They have now a big name on the international front in football; Isha?

SESAY: What a Cinderella story. I know you talked to the monk who blessed Leicester City stadium and players. Talk to us about that.

MOHSIN: Yes; there was another player involved in all of this. Is it (inaudible) or is it this monk, Sir Tung Chi? I went to see him this morning. Christina McFarland saw him a few weeks ago as well. He even gave me a piece of the prayer that he gave to all the players.

Now he has been at least ten times to the King Palace Stadium in Leicester to bless the ground, to make it hallowed ground and he told me that he was praying throughout the matches. Let's take a listen.

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PHRA PROMMANGKATACHAN, MONK, GOLDEN BUDDHA TEMPLE, via translator: I was praying and meditating during the matches on Sunday and Monday night. I wanted to send good karma, moral support, to Leicester City F.C. and pray for victory as the owner, Mr. Vichai, asked me to.

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MOHSIN: Now he insisted he remains neutral as monks should. They are not supposed to have any feelings one way or the other but he did say that he is looking forward to congratulating them Mr. Vichai when he speaks to him; and, tomorrow, Isha, he's getting on a plane from Thailand to go to join Leicester City on Saturday. He is going to be giving the players some amulets, more prayers as well. I'm sure he will be praying for the ground as well, for continued success at Leicester City. Isha?

SESAY: I'm sure he will. let's hope that that piece of the prayer that he gave you Saima, will mean good things for Crystal Palace; let's hope, aye?

MOHSIN: Let's hope so.

[Laughter]

SESAY: Saima Mohsin joining us from Bangkok; appreciate it. Thank you.

VAUSE: Okay, then we shall move on. There's a lot more about this monumental win by Leicester City, it's on our website at CNN.com.

SESAY: All right, well, in just a few hours the Olympic torch will arrive in Brazil, beginning its trek around the country before the 2016 games in Rio de Janeiro. Last week, the flame was handed over to a delegation from Rio in Athens, Greece, home of the first modern Olympic games.

VAUSE: The Rio Olympics start August 5 with more than 10,000 athletes, from 206 countries, competing in 306 events across 42 sports. Nearly 5,000 medals will be awarded.

A short break here; when we come back, a growing number of Venezuelans say they have no food, no milk, nothing at all. The country's economic freefall has left many are struggling for survival.

SESAY: And, U.S. presidential candidates are pushing hard for votes in Indiana. We will look at the potential impact of Tuesday's critical primary ahead.

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SESAY: Hello, everyone. Nationwide shortages of necessities, soaring inflation, rolling blackouts. Venezuela is in an economic meltdown that's putting its people at risk and its leadership in the opposition's crosshairs.

VAUSE: Well low oil prices haven't helped. Two years ago Venezuela exported $75 billion worth of oil. Barclay's projects this year, just $27 billion worth of oil. The IMF expects inflation will hit almost 500-percent this year.

SESAY: And, Venezuela's currency has plummeted in value. It takes 1,125 bolivars to make one U.S. dollar, at the unofficial rate. Just a year ago, 258 bolivars were equal to one dollar.

VAUSE: In the 1980s, Venezuela was one of the richest countries in Latin America. Now it's appealing to its neighbors for humanitarian help.

SESAY: As CNN's Paula Newton reports, many Venezuelans are going hungry or worse.

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PAULA NEWTON, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Even in the driving rain, Venezuelans started their day in search of food, expecting to see the usual grim ques that form at government stores. Not today; the only stores with affordable food are shut, closed for the National Workers Holiday the sign explains. It says sorry and thank you.

People walked away empty-handed but full of dread, wondering where their next meal might come from. I asked Julian Perez what he needs. JULIAN PEREZ, via translator: All the basics. I have nothing at home. Sometimes I go hungry. Who can say that we the people aren't hungry right now?

NEWTON: And here is the thing, these people aren't allowed to come back tomorrow. Food is rationed here, doled out according to the last number on your government I.D.

Carlos Chivitos explains his turn is today, his number is five.

So he is saying just today and Wednesday can he buy things and because it's closed today, he is out of luck.

So, too, is (Inaudible) with two children and one on the way, she's raising her kids with no food in her cupboards and barely any in the fridge. Venezuela is sitting on the world's largest proven oil reserve but it can't stock the nation's refrigerators.

This is all I have she tells me, as I ask about milk. When I find it, she says, they have milk. And even at six months pregnant, sometimes with a child on each hand, she lines up for as many as 18 hours to find anything to eat.

Janet DiBolivar (ps) shows us all she has, too. She says it took her three [00:20:02] weeks of queuing to stock this much, a shop that would have normally taken about an hour.

This is the not the worst of it for this family. Janet introduces us to her daughter Yazde (ps) who explains the country is out of medicine too, and there's no line you can wait in for that.

YAZDE, via translator: Cancer waits for no one. I'm worried about my health and the health of so many others who are going through this right now.

NEWTON: Yazde is holding unfilled prescriptions for chemo. She says no doctor; no hospital can tell her when she will get treatment.

YAZDE: It pains me to see Venezuela in the state that it's in right now, but what really makes my heartache is the thought of not being here for my daughter tomorrow.

NEWTON: Three generations of Bolivars are counting on things to change in Venezuela. Like so many on this day, they cling to patience, hope and very little else.

Paula Newton, CNN, Caracas.

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VAUSE: For more now on the growing problems in Venezuela joining us now here is Octavio Pescador.

SESAY: Yes; Professor Pescador is the founding Research Associate of UCLA's Paulo Freire Institute. Welcome. Thank you so much for joining us. OCTAVOR PESCADOR, CO-FOUNDER, PAULO FREIRE INSTITUTE AT UCLA:

Pleasure.

SESAY: Our correspondent, our colleague, Paula, just laid out just how bad it is in Venezuela right now for people. We heard the stats about inflation and work, according to the IMF this year. Is the situation in Venezuela purely a function of the fall in the oil price or are we looking at something more here as the cause, i.e., President Maduro's handling of the situation?

PESCADOR: Both; you know, the economic situation, the global fall in price of oil has hurt tremendously. That was their main source of revenue. Obviously if you don't have cash on hand, you can't do much. Secondly, the way that things have been administered now that opposition has grown, particularly the loss of legislature, obviously does not help in terms of decision making. There are some restrictions and some controls they have imposed to try to curb and attenuate the situation but they have triggered exactly the opposite results.

VAUSE: I think the argument here though is the other countries which are dependent upon oil as their main income, they still have toilet paper; they still have food on the shelves; they still have medicine in the hospital. This is a country which has tried to manipulate the price points, supply and demand and the market forces. Eventually it has been a series of bad economic decisions which was started by Chavez, continued by Madulo, which has got the country to this point.

PESCADOR: It's interesting because there are two versions of the story. The government says, the prices of items that are basic necessities are controlled because folks -- we want to make sure people have access to them. Others say, well, your argument that it's a black market and folks who are conspiring to destabilize your country, that are creating this particular circumstance.

Frankly, there's not been any shred of evidence yet, solid, in terms of either of the camps. Both of them are arguing directly via media and then physically in the streets. Sadly, there's not that much reporting on the violence in the streets, but there is violence, attenuated, obviously, you know, the criminality has gone up. Now for people, scarcity is the number one problem.

SESAY: As the look at the situation, as you look down the road, is this a country heading towards defaulting on its debt?

PESCADOR: Not at the moment, but the Chinese would have the second tier of loans and obviously they're -- if the price of oil continues in the low 40s, there's not going to be promising any good future for them. What really matters is whether the referendum will become a reality.

VAUSE: This is the referendum to have -

PESCADOR: To withdraw the president. The opposition has organized a movement to recall President Madoru. There are two things that are very important to highlight. One is that the military today expressed they will not repress anybody, whether that happens or not. They will not act on behalf of the state, and that is very good because we, in Latin America, have had very terrible experiences. So if the country decides to move in a different direction, as least we have that particular -

VAUSE: If Venezuela collapses, and it's a real possibility, what are the ramifications for the region?

PESCADOR: Well, if you look at the region, the core left that was holding the system or the contested system to the (Inaudible) Woods, the Washington concession as it's called, has been dismantled. Say for Vilma Rousseff who is also on the way to impeachment; Argentina has Marci. Obviously, there's, you know, some noise around Macri because of the Panama leaks but within the margins, they are stable and they are not super left. Ecuador is in the [00:25:01] center left but it's not as adamant as it was a few years ago. So in a sense the situation has stabilized in terms of the animosity towards the United States.

SESAY: Let me ask you this, while there may be, according to some polls, two-thirds calling for President Maduro to be ousted out of office, I'm struck by the fact you don't believe (inaudible) is dead in Venezuela.

PESCADOR: No, because there were many things that Chavez was able to do, and Maduro continue, in terms of, for instance, hunger. According to the United Nations, not the Chavistas, about 20-percent of the folks who are in extreme hunger are no longer in that situation. Medicine, for instances, and other social programs, but you need money; you need resources to fund that and without resources, you can't continue.

SESAY: So this is about Maduro as opposed to, more broadly speaking, in the policies of --

PESCADOR: Maduro he has been, in terms of the way he handles animosity, not very experienced. He doesn't have the charisma that Chavez had. He doesn't have the military record and the loyalty of the armed forces in the same way or control that Chavez had. Frankly, the context globally does not help him to carry out the process as Chavez did.

VAUSE: This is a very big discussion.

SESAY: It really is.

VAUSE: We will have to leave it there, Octavio; but thank you so much for coming and giving us all that.

SESAY: Thank you very much, Mr. Pescador.

VAUSE: Obviously some very difficult times -

SESAY: Yes.

VAUSE: -- ahead for the people of Venezuela. SESAY: appreciate it.

VAUSE: We'll take a short break here. When we come back, voting in a pivotal U.S. primary just hours away. We will tell you what direction the campaigns may take once the ballots have been counted.

SESAY: And Donald Trump's rhetoric on trade with China is raising eyebrows. Ahead, more on Asia's reaction to his rape analogy.

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[00:30:04] JOHN VAUSE, CNN ANCHOR: Welcome back, everybody. You are watching CNN Newsroom live from Los Angeles; I'm John Vause.

ISHA SESAY, CNN ANCHOR: And I'm Isha Sesay; the headlines this hour: Leicester City has won the English Premiere League after decades of irrelevance. The Foxes secured the title when Tottenham drew against Chelsea. Their improbable run to the crown is being called the sport's greatest ever underdog story.

VAUSE: The Olympic torch will arrive in Brazil in a few hours to being the journey round the country before the 2016 Games in Rio. The Olympics start August 5 with more than 10,000 athletes from 206 countries.

SESAY: Well Puerto Rico has defaulted on a $422 million debt payment. Big as that it, it's dwarfed by the nearly $2 billion the U.S. territory will owe on July 1. The island's governor is urging the U.S. Congress to allow a restructuring of Puerto Rico's debt.

VAUSE: The U.S. presidential candidates are just a few hours away from a crucial primary in the state of Indiana.

SESAY: Ted Cruz and Bernie Sanders are both hoping to hang on but a new CNN/ORC poll shows Cruz way behind Trump nationally. Nearly half of those polled support Trump with Cruz trailing at 25-percent and John Kasich at 19-percent.

VAUSE: That margin just keeps getting bigger each day. It is closer on the Democratic side, with Sanders and Hillary Clinton just eight points apart; and as Jim Acosta reports, Trump sees Tuesday's vote as a turning point.

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JIM ACOSTA, CNN SENIOR WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT: Donald Trump is declaring this race for the GOP nomination over if he wins the Indiana primary, joined by some of the state's biggest heroes all day long, Trump hit Ted Cruz hard in South Bend, home of Notre Dame, teasing the Texas senator for not assisting his running mate, Carly Fiorina, when she stumbled off a campaign stage over the weekend. Trump said he is ready to turn to Hillary Clinton and the general election campaign.

DONALD TRUMP (R) REPUBLICAN PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: If we win, it's over, and then I can focus -- then I don't have to worry about Lyin' Ted Cruz, and I don't care if he endorses me or doesn't. I couldn't care less. But, I don't have to worry about Lyin' Ted Cruz. We don't have to worry about Kasich, who is 1 and 44.

A top Trump campaign official tells me they believe a big win in Indiana will force Cruz to start rethinking his future in this race, predicting the money will start drying up for the Texas Senator. Cruz is vowing to stay in the race as long as he remains viable.

Jim Acosta, CNN, South Bend, Indiana.

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VAUSE: Joining us now, Dylan Byers, CNN's Senior Reporter for Media and Politics and Parag Khanna CNN's Global Contributor and the author of "Connectography, Mapping the Future of Global Civilization". I have my copy with me right now. Where is it right now on amazon's list of top sellers?

PARAG KHANNA, CNN GLOBAL CONTRIBUTOR: Top 50.

VAUSE: Top 50 still? Well done.

SESAY: Well where is my copy?

DYLAN BYERS, CNN SENIOR REPORTER FOR MEDIA AND POLITICS: I want a copy.

VAUSE: Call in, everybody gets a copy. Send us a tweet.

SESAY: Yes.

VAUSE: It's a good book. It's a heavy book but it's a good book. Okay, let's start off with the campaign. You know, Dylan, every year when we come to these presidential campaigns, China is a punching bag but it's never been anything like this before, especially when it comes to Donald Trump. Let's listen to this.

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TRUMP: We can't continue to allow China to rape our country, and that's what they're doing. It's the greatest theft in the history of the world.

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VAUSE: Raping the country? This is such powerful language, and it seems to be really touching a nerve this year. Why is that?

BYERS: It is touching a nerve, and I think a lot has to do with the fact trade has never been such a major issue in a presidential campaign. Obviously, you know, for all of Donald Trump's incendiary language, if you go back and look at the constant thread that's been running through his entire campaign for the past ten months, when think about the comments he's made about immigration, about jobs going overseas, things like that, it always comes back to the issue of trade.

Of course, for Trump who is try doing two things: one, put Ted Cruz out of the picture and do so in Indiana so he can wrap this thing up and not have it drag all the way on to California and certainly to the convention. Then also he is thinking about how that narrative is going to work in a general election against Hillary Clinton. If he can be the champion of the disenfranchised, white, middle-class worker, who has seen their jobs go overseas, or knows people whose jobs have gone overseas, this kind of rhetoric could prove to be effective.

SESAY: So, Parag, let me bring you in here. While this kind of rhetoric is playing well here in the United States, what's the view out there in the big wide world when they hear this rhetoric of China raping the U.S.?

KHANNA: It's deeply alarming. Let's bear in mind that we should focus on the facts of trade, not just what Trump wants to do to revise it. The United States is the architect of the world trading system. The United States has more than 20 free trade agreements. Tens of millions of American jobs depend [00:35:01] on exports. Most of the American Fortune 500 companies generate more revenues from overseas than from home.

When you are talking about a trade war the way Donald Trump is, he is forgetting that it's a two-way street. He's going to force, were he to be elected, were he to actually make good on some of these promises, you're going to have reciprocity.

Trade is a two-way street. Other countries will respond. We have episodes going back to 2009, 2012. Whenever you ratchet up this language, or even impose certain kinds of sanctions or tariffs, other countries respond in kind. What China does, they target specific congressional districts and they say, automobile parts from there and other things, components from there, electronics from here. We're going to really turn up the tariffs in those areas and then those congressional districts will say, oh, wait a minute.

SESAY: Something he is not bringing it up.

KHANNA: Trump is not bringing up the reciprocity.

SESAY: Yes.

VAUSE: And, Dylan, you sort of touched on this because it's not just on the Republican side, where they are talking about trade and China and all this stuff, especially with the trade agreements. We're hearing from Bernie Sanders and we're hearing it also from Hillary Clinton. She was saying it again on the campaign today.

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HILLARY CLINTON (D-NY) DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENTICAL CANDIDATE: I do believe in trade. I think if you have 5-percent of the world's population, you have to trade with the other 95-percent. I don't believe that we should be subsidizing, in effect, the rest of the world to trade with us. We still have the biggest market, the strongest economy, the most consumers who are able to buy things. So we got some cards to play and we need to play those cords. (END VIDEO CLIP)

VAUSE: I guess one of the problems here, people like cheap TV's and they take that for granted and no one's complains about that, but they always complain about the jobs, the negative side of this; right?

BYERS: Right, they absolutely do. Again, going back to the political calculation that's being made here, if there's one thing that Donald Trump and Bernie Sanders have in common, it's that they are appealing to groups of voters, again, primarily white voters in the heartland of the country who feel like they are losing their jobs, or their prosperity is being taken away from them. Looking towards the election again, she needs to figure out how to not only get the Bernie Sanders supporters but also to bring people in some of those people who might be on the fence about whether or not they could support a Trump candidacy.

SESAY: Parag, the big picture, again, global picture here, help our viewers understand the benefits that have arisen from moving trade barriers and what that has meant for reduction of global poverty and, you know, reduction in conflict. Give us some context here.

KHANNA: I'm glad you are bringing this up, Isha, because it's in the narrow discourse around just this election all of that gets forgotten. Dylan is completely right, of course, that prosperity has been created. Jobs actually depend on those exports, that's something that I think even Hillary Clinton acknowledges. When American companies invest abroad, when prosperity is created abroad, when those - as emerging markets grow wealthier, they consume more American exports.

So the jobs sometimes are taken away, but many, many jobs are creating in America in higher value added sectors, even in the automotive industry, by the way. Higher end jobs in automobile parts, very high high-end kinds of parts: airbags and anti-lock braking systems and sensors. These things are still made in America. To say nothing, of course, of all of the high technology goods from Silicon Valley, for example. Those things also get exported to all of these countries as they become wealthier. They become wealthier also because we are investing there and creating jobs there. That complexity is totally missing in this conversation.

VAUSE: And as we go to your book here, available on amazon, "Connectography" you make the point here that the future, in fact, is quite the opposite of what the candidates are talking about on the campaign trail; right? It's not about wars. It's not about ending trade agreements; it's the opposite.

KHANNA: It is. We have a growing amount of integration, a growing amount of connectivity. It's transportation. It's energy and communications. We depend on each other actually more than ever. No country in the world does not import food. In other words, every country in the world imports some food. We all import electronics. We all import all of these basic goods. Again, the costs go down the more free-trade we have, the more investment we have. Let's remember that every trade agreement today is also an investment agreement. It's not just about buying and selling. It's also about moving capital around.

One thing we should remember, because you brought up war and peace and development. China's growth and rise as a trade power has allowed it to accumulate capital, which it has invested in the infrastructure and the commodities of Africa, Latin America. In the last 15 years, the developing world has grown so fast on the back of trade with China. It's grown more prosperous and now American companies are doing business in those countries. If they weren't growing, how would America do business with them?

SESAY: A rising tide.

VAUSE: Dylan, when you have a book, we will plug it as well.

BYERS: Thank you.

VAUSE: We'll see you guys next hour.

BYERS: It will be a very good book.

VAUSE: Looking forward to it. Thanks, Guys. We'll talk to you again next hour; appreciate it.

One last note here on U.S. politics. While on the campaign trail Ted Cruz's running mate, Carly Fiorina, took a stumble off the stage. It happened while she was introducing Cruz at a rally in Indiana. He didn't even look.

SESAY: He didn't notice, did he, as Fiorina fell? he continued shaking hands and shaking hands. Rival Donald Trump, as you know, he later seized on the moment.

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[00:40:02] TRUMP: Carly is perfectly nice. By the way, she fell off the stage the other day. Did anybody see that? And Cruz didn't do anything. I was a -- even I would have helped her; okay? She just went down. She went down a long way; right? And she went down right in front of him and he was talking; and he kept talking. He didn't even look like - that was a weird deal.

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SESAY: You've got to admit The Donald has it right there. It was kind of a weird deal. Stay with CNN for live coverage of the Indiana primary as voting gets under way Tuesday -

VAUSE: Even I would have helped her.

SESAY: -- for live updates as results come in. It's all right here on CNN.

VAUSE: Nothing if not entertaining.

SESAY: Nothing if not entertaining. Time for a break. If you think American politics gets intense, wait until you see this. Fists were flying in Turkish parliament, all on live TV; that's how it played out. We will tell you what sparked the brawl.

VAUSE: Also why the next couple days could be critical in restoring a cease-fire in Syria.

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SESAY: The U.S. and Russia have agreed to add more personnel in Geneva to help enforce the fragile seize fire in Syria. U.S. Secretary of State, John Kerry, says the cessation of hostilities has been put to the test in the last few weeks; but he says there has been some progress in the talks.

VAUSE: Syria state media report the military extended a ceasefire in Damascus and nearby suburbs for two more days. Washington and Moscow are working to extend that truce to Aleppo, which has seen a sharp escalation of violence, (inaudible) last week's attack on a hospital there an unconscionable act.

ISIS is claiming responsibility for a car bomb targeting Shi'ite pilgrims in Baghdad. At least 16 people were killed and 43 wounded.

SESAY: Police say the car was parked on the side of a highway. Shi'ites were walking along that road to a shrine ahead of a major pilgrimage on [00:45:00] Tuesday. Security has been tightened around the Iraqi capital for that pilgrimage.

Well, joining us now is Gayle Tzemach Lemmon, Senior Fellow at the Council On Foreign Relations and author of "Ashley's War." It's always good to have you.

GAYLE TZEMACH LEMMON, SENIOR FELLOW, COUNCIL ON FOREIGN RELATIONS: Thank you.

SESAY: Let me ask you, as someone who is tracking the events in Syria, can you pinpoint why the cessation of hostilities has begun to unravel so rapidly in the last couple of days?

LEMMON: Well, I think what you see is a situation that was always held in by a fragile thread, just people on all sides feeling like it's not worth keeping it, and really, the bombing which people are, of course, attributing to the regime in Syria, of that hospital in Aleppo, which was just incredibly heartbreaking; killed the last pediatrician who was working in the city. I think that was the first thing that finally returned Syria to the headlines because it's been going on. this carnage has been unfolding for years. I think that bombing of the hospital really forced people to pay attention once more.

VAUSE: There was this hope that this cessation of hostilities, while it wasn't perfect, it had reduced violence; humanitarian aid was getting in; it was allowing these peace talks to progress. The U.N. now saying we can't have peace talks unless the cessation of hostilities holds. The problem is that the al-nusra front, which is affiliated with al-Qaeda, has inserted themselves in all of these opposition areas, which is basically giving the regime -- the Assad regime and the Russians cover to go after them. LEMMON: That's right.

VAUSE: And Kerry's now calling for those opposition groups to separate themselves from al-Nusra, and that just seems to be impossible.

LEMMON: It is impossible, in part because this war has always been impossible in terms of tracking who is fighting whom in what areas from the outside. The other challenge is that a lot of fighters who might have gone in the moderate side, if you talk to people -

VAUSE: Yes.

LEMMON: -- especially within the Obama Administration, would say some went to al-Nusra because they were better funded and better armed, and even if they didn't agree with the everything, they were much more players than the moderate opposition that was waiting for weaponry, waiting for money, waiting for support.

But the other theory that you hear a lot is that the talks were getting too possible. There was too much possibility in the talks and that you knew you could get opposition to walk out if you bombed --

SESAY: Bombed?

LEMMON: Right.

SESAY: So we heard from Secretary Kerry who said in recent days that there's a need for a much better mechanism for monitoring and controlling a new ceasefire. How exactly is that going to work? It also bears the question, what on earth has been going on until now?

LEMMON: Well that's the thing, right? The rhetoric on Syria has never matched the urgency on the ground and the urgency has been incredible and growing. The rhetoric has been Assad must go -

SESAY: Yes.

LEMMON: -- red line, but what really is happening is more than 250,000 dead, half of the country displaced, refugees. Almost a million refugees in Europe alone. So I think what you're seeing now is the world is trying to figure out how to protect civilians without actually doing the work to enforce what would be a safe zone.

VAUSE: It's a lot of talking and not a lot of doing.

LEMMON: Right, and that's the challenge for this whole war.

SESAY: Gayle, --

VAUSE: Gayle, thank you for coming in.

SESAY: -- thank you. You always bring home just how dire it is.

VAUSE: Yes.

SESAY: But we appreciate the insight.

LEMMON: Thank you; great to join you.

VAUSE: Thanks, Gayle.

SESAY: All right; turning now to Turkey where lawmakers started fighting after a heated debate over changes to their constitution.

VAUSE: The members of Turkey's ruling and opposition parties jumping on tables, throwing a few punches on Monday in Ankara. It was all aired live on television. They are arguing over whether lawmakers should be immune from prosecution, maybe for assault. Another session also ended in violence last week.

SESAY: At this point we're going to take a break. The court battle begins over Prince's estate. Ahead, brothers and sisters follow the money and the music the pop star left behind.

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VAUSE: Welcome back, everybody. The dispute over Prince's fortune is getting ugly; that didn't take long. A judge has appointed a special administrator over the estate.

SESAY: The sibling rivalry behind the scenes of Monday's court hearing was not so civil. Brian Todd explains.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Don't block the entrance.

BRIAN TODD, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Prince's only full sibling, Tyka Nelson, arrives in court for hearings over the pop star's $300 million estate, proceedings which have gotten very messy. A source with firsthand knowledge of the discussions telling CNN the initial meeting between Prince's siblings was contentious and ended in shouting. On Monday, Tyka Nelson was on one side of the courtroom. Lawyers for Prince's half siblings were on the other. Making this more contentious, his sister claims Prince did not have a will. Tyka Nelson is maneuvering, with five half siblings of Prince, over how to divide the estate. One of them claimed the singer had a vault at Paisley Park.

ALFRED JACKSON, HALF-BROTHER, PRINCE: We have seen the vault but we never entered.

TODD: There are conflicting reports as to whether the vault has been opened yet. A lawyer for Prince's half-brother denies it. It's rumored to have enough of Prince's unreleased music to put out one album every year for the rest of the century. Prince's half-brother wants to release it.

JACKSON: Let people know how great he really is.

TODD: But it's now up to a special administrator. Four years ago Prince made what now seem like an eerie remark about his unreleased songs in an interview with ABC's "The View."

PRINCE: One day someone will release them. I don't know that I'll get to release them.

TODD: Meantime, Prince's personal chef says during the last weeks of his life, the star had lost his appetite, that he ate less and drank less water. Ray Roberts told the Associated Press, "it felt like he wasn't himself, probably the last month or two. I think he was struggling with being sick a lot." Robert says that was unlike the healthy vegan he knew, who loved roasted beets and minestrone soup. The mystery surrounding Prince's death plays out against the backdrop of a seemingly ugly family dispute.

ALEX TANOUYE, TRUST AND ESTATE ATTORNEY: A sudden windfall can make people [00:55:01] do things they might not otherwise do. I think grieving has a big effect on it. Emotionally, people are surprised, particularly when somebody famous dies young. They might not have had a chance to say whatever they wanted to say. They might now be forced to sit in a room with people they don't like.

TODD: Prince's half-brother, Albert Jackson, says he and Prince have lost touch with one another. Jackson told CNN he found out about the singer's death the same way the public found out. Jackson says he was hurt when he wasn't invited to the private memorial to say good-bye to his younger brother.

Brian Todd, CNN, Washington.

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VAUSE: Astronomers have discovered three new planets, once again raising speculation for the potential of life outside of our solar system. The planets orbit a dwarf star about 40 light years away. Scientists have determined that their sizes and temperatures are similar to those of Venus and Earth.

SESAY: Two of the planets orbit close to their host dwarf star, meaning they are likely uninhabitable because of radiation. The third outer planet is further away but it's too soon if it lies in the so- called habitable zone.

VAUSE: As soon as we find out, we will let you know.

SESAY: Don't hold your breath.

VAUSE: Yes.

SESAY: Thanks for watching "CNN Newsroom" live from Los Angeles; I'm Isha Sesay.

VAUSE: And I'm John Vause; short break and then we'll be back with news from all around the world. You are watching CNN.

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