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[11:00:20] SEN. TED CRUZ, (R) TEXAS: Tonight, I'm sorry to say -- it appears that path has been foreclosed.
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LYNDA KINKADE, HOST: Bowing out, Ted Cruz drops out of the race for the White House after Donald Trump wins big in Indiana.
This hour, how can the presumptive Republican nominee unify the party he now leads?
Also ahead -- no end in sight to the bloodshed in Syria. We'll hear from our own correspondent embedded with Russian troops in Syria on the latest
And all he wanted was to meet his football idol. Now his family receiving death threats in Afghanistan. We'll have his story later in the show.
Well, many pundits dismissed him and doubters said the brash Washington outsider could never pull it off, but today Donald Trump is basking in a
victory that puts the U.S. presidency in his sights.
The billionaire who has long complained the system is rigged against him is now the presumptive Republican nominee after rival Ted Cruz dropped out of
As Sara Murray reports, Trump can now focus his efforts on the general election.
SEN. TED CRUZ, (R) TEXAS: The voters chose another path.
SEN. TED CRUZ, (R) PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: The voters chose another path.
SARA MURRAY, CNN POLITICAL CORRESPONDENT: Indiana marks the end of the road for Ted Cruz.
CRUZ: We are suspending our campaign.
MURRAY: And a major victory for Donald Trump as he becomes the Republican Party's presumptive nominee.
DONALD TRUMP, (R) PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: What Ted did is really a very brave thing to do. We want to bring unity to the Republican Party.
MURRAY: After months of battling it out with the RNC.
TRUMP: It's all a rigged system.
It is really a disgusting system.
MURRAY: The billionaire finally getting a message of support from the very top. Party Chairman Reince Prebus tweeting "Trump will answer the
presumptive nominee. We all need to unite and focus on defeating Hillary Clinton." Now there's only one other candidate refusing to leave the race.
GOV. JOHN KASICH, (R) PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: I love California.
MURRAY: John Kasich's chief strategist tweeting "Until someone has 1,237 bound delegates there is no presumptive nominee. California, here we come."
But Trump is largely ignoring the Ohio governor and now focusing squarely on the general election.
TRUMP: We're going after Hillary Clinton. She will not be a great president. She will not be a good president. She will be a poor president.
MURRAY: Trump solidifying his position at the top just hours after this litany of attacks from Cruz.
CRUZ: This man is a pathological liar. Donald Trump is a serial philanderer. The man is utterly amoral. Donald is a bully.
MURRAY: After a rough and tumble day on the trail, Trump adopted a friendlier tone in his victory speech.
TRUMP: I don't know if he likes me or he doesn't like me, but he is one hell of a competitor. He is a tough, smart guy.
MURRAY: But if Trump was hoping for an endorsement, he may have a long wait.
CRUZ: I am not suspending our fight for liberty. Our movement will continue.
KINKADE: And we will have much more on the race for the White House coming up, including a look at some key questions going forward. Can Donald Trump
unify his Republican Party after such a bruising battle for the nomination?
And on the Democratic side, Bernie Sanders scores yet another upset win, but does he really have a path forward given Hillary Clinton's huge
delegate lead? That and much more in our coverage of the U.S. presidential race continues.
Heavy fighting is reported in Syria despite a diplomatic drive to bolster a tattered cease-fire. And nowhere is worse than in Aleppo. On Tuesday
another hospital was hit in the city killing an unknown number of people.
More than 250 people have been killed there over the past two weeks alone. And one monitoring group described one battle there as the fiercest in more
than a year.
Elsewhere, a freeze on fighting expired in one rebel held area east of Damascus, which was reportedly then hit by more than 20 air strikes.
CNN's Frederick Pleitgen is traveling with Russian troops in Syria and he joins us on the phone
now near Hamaa.
Fred, many of our viewers will recall that Russia said it would effectively withdraw from Syria,
yet you are on the ground with them. What's the deal? What are they saying to you?
FREDERIK PLETIGEN, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Well, the Russians certainly haven't withdrawn, Lynda. Quite to the contrary. What we're
seeing is that while they have fewer fighter jets on their air base in Latakia, they still do fly a lot of missions. And there certainly still
are dozens of jets that are still out there.
We were on the tarmac in that air base for I would say maybe one or two hours. And we saw
several dozen fighter jets take off, some of them also landing after completing their missions. In fact, the Russians told us that over the
past four days they've flown some 87 sorties, they say most of them combating ISIS targets. But they also say, of course, that they're
policing the cease-fire as well.
And they also acknowledge the cease-fire is in a lot of trouble, specifically in the Aleppo area.
And they say the big problem they believe in that area is that they say that Jubhat al Nusra, which is of course the offshoot of al Qaeda in Syria,
keeps shelling government areas. They, for their part, say they say they have no influence, for instance, over Bashar al Assad's air force which of
course has been accused of targeting civilians targets in Aleppo as well.
One of the interesting things that they told is that they do believe that there could be a cease-fire
in the making. They say they're working very closely with the Americans. And they say that that cooperation is something that could bear fruit.
So, they say they're playing a constructive role, but also saying of course there are still a lot of difficulties out there, especially considering how
bad the situation is in Aleppo at this point, Lynda.
[11:05:18] KINKADE: It is interesting, Fred, that the U.S. and Russia are working together now. How will that partnership work, given their opposing
positions on the Assad regime?
PLEITGEN: Well, that is probably going to be the really big test, the really big issue that these two sides are going to have. And it's not one
that's going to go away.
If you recall some of the remarks that Secretary of State John Kerry made over the past couple days where he said that Bashar al Assad shouldn't
think all of a sudden he could use the cease-fire to start bombing the rebels, that he could use it to improve his position.
That certainly isn't something that went down well in Russia.
And I spoke to a senior Russian official only a couple of days ago and he said that the Russias
at this point simply believe that Bashar al Assad is still the best option in their mind. And it's someone who they're sticking to at this point in
So, that's going to be a big sticking point and a big problem.
The big question is, are these two sides going to be able to forward a process of reconciliation, of political reconciliation and also force of
the cessation of hostilities in spite of the fact of that fundamental difference that they have on Bashar al-Assad, Lynda.
KINKADE: Yeah. Huge challenges. Frederick Pleitgen reporting for us near Hamaa, Syria. Thank you very much.
And as Fred was just telling us, Russia is still very much involved in the fighting. And as he mentioned, it's also part of the UN security council,
which will hold an urgent meeting on the violence in Aleppo just three hours from now.
Well, let's bring in CNN's Matthew Chance who is in Moscow with more for us on that.
Matthew, this crisis threatens -- this crisis, particularly in Aleppo, threatens to derail the peace efforts. Russia's foreign minister, Sergei
Lavrov has spoken about the meeting in Berlin. What is Russia hoping to see come from those talks?
MATTHEW CHANCE, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Well, from those talks in Berlin and from the session at the UN Security Council, of course, on which
Russia obviously has a veto and a seat, it wants to see, publicly at least, moves towards the implementation of a ceasefire across the country. There
was a deal done with -- between the government and the rebels, essentially talked about a few days ago in Geneva. That needs to be finalized. And so
all the diplomatic pressure now from the west and from Russia is about trying to stop that fighting, at least publicly, all sides have apparently,
in terms of the big countries signed up to the idea that this must now stop, because of that crisis in Aleppo, because of the fact there's been
such fierce fighting there. And so many people have been killed over the past 10 or 11 days.
But of course Russia while it says it's an honest broker does support very strongly one side in this country. It's a main military backer, the main
military backer, of Bashar al-Assad. And while it wants an end to the conflict in Syria, it certainly wants an end, or an outcome, that is
positive for its ally. And so we have to bear that in mind as well when we hear what the Russians say.
KINKADE: And Matthew, as Fred mentioned, Russia has confirmed that it has carried out 87 sorties over the past four days, what is Russia saying about
the hospitals that were hit in Aleppo?
CHANCE: Not a great deal, actually. I mean there have been two hospitals hit in Aleppo over
the past week or so. One late last month in which 50 people were killed, according to eyewitness reports and sources on the ground. On that attack,
the Russians have said that they first of all were not flying in the area when that attack took place, so they've distanced their
own air force from that, but they've also gone further in that and said they don't believe the reports are actually true. They think they were --
they think they were faked. That's something that came from the Russian defense ministry
The second hospital that was attacked yesterday, that was in government- controlled areas inside Aleppo. The Russians say it was a maternity hospital. There's been
a number of casualties that have been casualties confirmed both dead and injured. The Russians are blaming that attack on the al Nusra Front, which
of course is the al Qaeda affiliate which is not part of any of the cessation of hostilities, any part of the cease-fire agreements that are
And so they're distancing themselves from the attack on the -- alleged attack on the hospital
that was on rebel territory and blaming the al Nusra Front for the attack that took place on the hospital inside government territory.
[11:10:44] KINKADE: All right, the blame game continues.
Matthew Chance for us live from Moscow. Thank you very much.
Well now to our other stories on the radar right now. Germany's health minister says medical marijuana will be legalized next year. Seriously ill
patient wills be able to take the drug if they consult with a doctor and have no therapeutic alternative.
Singapore has arrested eight Bangladeshi men accused of plotting terror attack in Bangladesh. The Singaporean government says the men were part of
a group called Islamic Sstate in Bangladesh. And they want to overthrow the Bangladeshi government to bring it under ISIS rule.
A raging wildfire has hit the Canadian city of Fort McMurray sparking a mandatory evacuation of the entire city. So far, nearly 53,000 people have
been moved to safer ground.
Pentagon officials say it was a coordinated and complex attack by ISIS in northern Iraq that led to the death of U.S. Navy SEAL Charles Keating. He
is the third American to die in combat after the U.S. redeployed troops to Iraq in 2014.
Christiane Amanpour talked about it earlier with the U.S. Secretary of Defense Ashton
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CHRISTIANE AMANPOUR, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: I want to first talk about the issue that was brought up in your press conference and
that is the death of a Navy SEAL in Iraq. The fact that 100 ISIS forces were able to breach the toughest front lines that exist in the fight
against ISIS, which is the Peshmerga.
How worrying is that?
CARTER: Well, I mean, his death is tragic and he -- it was a heroic action that he was part of. And obviously, as Secretary of Defense, the most
serious responsibility I have is to put people in a risky situation like that.
But he was operating with one of the toughest forces in the whole Middle East, certainly in the Iraq-Syria theater against ISIL, namely the
Peshmerga from Northern Iraq in the Kurdistan regional government area.
And he was operating with them. And it was a surprise ISIL attack. That suggests something that I think also needs to be a caution to us, in
addition to his loss, which, in addition to being tragic, shows us this is risky -- this is a risky campaign.
There is risk here; Americans are at risk doing it but it's necessary. We need to, we will defeat ISIL. But there's going to be risk associated with
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KINKADE: And you can watch the entire interview with the U.S. Secretary of Defense on
Amanpour. That's just a few hours away at 7:00 p.m. in London.
Well still to come -- a Westgate-style terror attack in foiled. We'll bring you the latest on
that in a live report from Nairobi. Stay with us.
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TRUMP: We're going to bring back our jobs and we're going to save our jobs and people are going to have great jobs again and this country, which is
very, very divided in so many different ways, is going to become one beautiful, loving country. And we're going to
love each other. We're going to cherish each other. We're going to take care of each other and we're going to have great economic development and
we're not going to let other countries take it away from us, because that's what's been happening for far too many years. And we're not going to do it
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KINKADE: This is Connect the World with me Lynda Kinkade. Welcome back.
Donald Trump there giving a victory speech after becoming the presumptive Republican nominee for U.S. president.
Now, Trump doesn't yet have the 1,237 delegates needed to clinch the nomination, but he no longer has it Ted Cruz trying to block his path.
Cruz dropped out of the race Tuesday night after crushing defeat in Indiana's primary.
On the Republican (sic) side, Bernie Sanders says he has bad news for Hillary Clinton. He says he can still win the Democratic nomination after
pulling off yet another upset win. Sanders beat Clinton in Indiana, but made little dent in her overall delegate lead.
Ted Cruz himself predicted that Indiana primary would decide the Republican nomination. We're joined now by Sunlen Serfaty live in Indianapolis.
Sunlen, it was looking for a long time like we were going to see a contested convention in July. That's no longer the case. Donald Trump is
the candidate at this stage. A man who just 11 months ago had never run for public office. Quite a shock.
SUNLEN SERFATY, CNN CORREPSONDENT: Yeah.
You know, this is remarkable and I think it come to a shock to many withing the Republican Party. You know, much has been said and I think joked about
how the Republican Party has really gone through seven stages of grief and kind of coming around to Donald Trump, but very clear he is going
forward. This will not go to a contested convention, likely will be the presumptive nominee and we saw him in that victory speech really make a
very clear turn towards pivoting towards a general election looking ahead, but also sending a message to the Republican Party and the Republican
establishment many of whom fought very hard against his candidacy that he intends to try to unite the party.
He, according to aides, intends to try to take on a more presidential tone in the days going forward, and you know, of course this will be the big
test for him. And we heard from the RNC chairman Reince Priebus, you know, basically come out and say he will likely be the presumptive nominee, that
was a big signal to many of the Republicans, now it's time to get behind this as our nominee.
KINKADE: It was interesting last night. You were at the speech by Ted Cruz. He didn't even mention Trump when he conceded defeat and suspended
his campaign. Yet Trump was quite gracious when he spoke. Will we see more of that going forward and could he possibly work with Cruz?
SERFATY: Yeah. I think we will see more of that going forward. You know, it was certainly very notable as you said in Ted Cruz's concession speech
here in Indianapolis. He made absolutely no mention of Donald Trump. You know, Trump has certainly been the thorn in the side of his campaign, and
the big question is, will Ted Cruz throw his support behind Donald Trump as the nominee?
Now, we have not heard yes or no from aides. Aides point to the fact that this has been such a bruising campaign primary season and that his wounds
are very raw at this point, but certainly we saw him really push back and it struck such a chord within Ted Cruz when Donald Trump went after his
family. But this is still a question mark of how he intends to take a stand on this.
And we did see in Donald Trump's victory speech last night really kind of mending of fences I
should say, saying, you know, offering very rare praise for Ted Cruz saying he was a tough competitor. You know, gone were the days where he called
him Lyin' Ted. He just referred to him as Senator Ted Cruz last night.
So, I think there is an effort on the part of Donald Trump to reach out. He said he certainly would welcome Ted Cruz's endorsement of him, but I'm
not sure at this point if he should hold his breath for that, Lynda.
[11:20:07] KINKADE: Yeah, I don't think he should.
Sunlen Serfaty, great to have you with us. Thanks so much.
Well, let's get some more perspective now on both the Democratic and Republican races. We're joined now by Rebecca Sinderbrand, political news
editor at The Washington Post. Great to have you with us. For such a long time the pundits thought Trump's candidacy was a bit of a joke and then it
was only a matter of time before he would be pushed out.
Now that he is the presumptive Republican nominee, could he actually win in a general election?
REBECCA SINDERBRAND, WASHINGTON POST: You know, this is the question. He's starting off in a big hole. First of all, any Republican candidate,
not just Donald Trump, starts off at a disadvantage when it comes to the electoral college.
Donald Trump has an even deeper demographic hole. He has issues with women voters, with African-American voters, with Hispanic voters, are going to be
incredibly difficult for him to overcome and he's building a campaign organization essentially from scratch -- a fund-raising operation, a
grassroots ground game operation that he just does not have right now.
KINKADE: Many are wondering if he will soften some of his tone, as someone mentioned, he might takes on a more presidential tone, but he has made a
lot of controversial remarks recently. There's the wall in Mexico, his proposed ban on Muslims entering the United States. And just today he
stood by that ban suggesting Muslim immigrants could destroy the United States. Take a listen to this.
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TRUMP: we have to be extremely careful and we have to be vigilant. Yes, we have to find out what the hell is going on.
If you look at what's happening all over Europe with the migration and look at what's happening, it's terrible what they've done to some of these
countries. They're going to destroy -- they're destroying Europe.
I'm not going to let that happen to the United States.
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KINKADE: Do you think he should start toning down that rhetoric?
SINDERBRAND: Well, certainly we've gotten the impression, and gotten the signal from both Donald Trump and his aides, that he's looking to change
his tone just a bit to make a bit of a pivot heading into the general election.
What's not clear is whether that's something he's actually capable of doing completely. You know, you have a camp within his campaign that has said
look let Trump be Trump. You don't want to hold him back. This is what's gotten had him this far.
So, on the one hand you see him try to make these turns, try to change his tone. You certainly more subdued Donald Trump last night and on the other
side you see him as you said today doubling down on some of his more controversial statements.
So, it'll be interesting to see which path he veers towards in the days ahead.
KINKADE: Looking at Trump and women, we saw last night when he did that speech, his -- the strong women in his family standing behind him. He has,
of course, had a lot of problems with comments that when he's spoken about women and talking about Hillary Clinton playing the woman card, how do you
think he should use the women in his family to help him going forward?
SINDERBRAND: Well, certainly, you know, Ivanka Trump in particular has been a high-profile surrogate for her father and someone who's very well
liked. The issue is not so much the women with his family and what sort of impact they can have. It's the
statements that he's made and you're already starting to see, we saw this week, campaign ads starting to pop on the web and elsewhere, from
Democrats, makings use of Donald Trump's statements about women just stringing together clips of things he said in the past.
And it will be interesting to see exactly how Republican officials further down the ticket, those
running for senator, those running for governor, react to those statements, whether they go closer to their party's presumptive nominee or try to put
KINKADE: Al right. OK. Rebecca Sinderbrand, we'll have to leave it there for now. Great to have your analysis on all of that. Thank you very much.
SINDERBRAND: Thank you.
KINKADE: Kenyan police say they foiled a major terror attack plot by a cell they believe is
connected to ISIS. The country's police chief says the plot was going to hit innocent civilians at various targets in Kenya much like the Westgate
Mall attack in 2013, which you see here.
The police chief says they think the attackers were going to use anthrax. For the latest developments. We're joined live by Robyn Kriel from the
Narobi capital -- from the Kenyan capital Nairobi, sorry.
This foiled attack seems to center around a student doctor and other university students. What are you learning about the accused?
ROBYN KRIEL, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Well, Lynda, Mohammad Abdi Ali is the medical intern that has been taken into custody. He was working
at a hospital here in Kenya.
His wife and a friend of hers who are at a university in Kampala have also been taken into custody. We've confirmed that with Uganda's police. There
is one other gentleman that is in custody as well and then two other medical interns are wanted. And the Kenyan police are offering a reward
They're saying that these people were going to plot Westgate-style attacks here in Kenya, targeting civilians as well as a bioterror attack. They
said they were working with a group of medical experts to plot a bioterror attack using anthrax.
[11:25:10] KINKADE: And talking about the anthrax attack, it's not easy to weaponize anthrax. How likely is it the suspects could have pulled off
that type of attack?
KRIEL: Well speaking to experts or pathologists especially, Lynda, they say that even for an expert it would be difficult to use and weaponize
anthrax, to use in what the Kenyan police called a large-scale terror attack unless they had a huge laboratory, some of the top equipment and a
lot of the specific type of anthrax would have been to the deadly strain of anthrax.
So they say it would be very, very difficult. It was more likely that Mohammad Abdi Ali, if it indeed turns out -- if he does indeed turn out to
be guilty of this was likely just talking about it and perhaps talking about these other styles of attacks.
But again, concerning that it is, of course, linked with ISIS and concerning as well that there
are still people out on the loose.
We have also heard in the last two weeks, Lynda, that they have issued -- that the Kenyan police had alerted various medical research facilities
around the country that was reported in the local media to be on high alert and to be vigilant. They did not mention why. So we're not sure if that
has any linkage with these arrests.
KINKADE: And Robyn, what are you learning about this ISIS link? Is ISIS behind this plot? Is there an ISIS presence in Kenya?
KRIEL: Well, we've known for a while that there has been issues -- instances of radicalization and recruitment for ISIS here in Kenya. In
fact, the Kenyan police say around 20 young Kenyans have been recruited and have actually traveled from Kenya to Libya, Syria, and
Somalia to join -- they say to join ISIS. That's sort of the network that they have going on.
However, this is the first we've heard of any sort of planned attacks. And really here in Kenya,
the group that everyone worries about the group is al Shabaab, the al Qaeda-linked group al Shabaab, which fights regularly with ISIS and in fact
al Shabaab has its members hunt down ISIS members in neighboring Somalia where there is a tiny cell.
But this is really the first we've heard of any sort of planned attack by ISIS if it does indeed turn out to be true.
al Shabaab really is the group here at least that most security services and international agencies are worried about attacking. ISIS really being
secondary to al Shabaab.
KINKADE: OK. Robyn Kriel live from us live from Nairobi. Thank you very much for that reporting.
Well, live from the CNN center this is Connect the World. Coming up, Hillary Clinton may be
trying to focus on Donald Trump, but Bernie Sanders is not bowing out. We'll check in on the Democratic side of the presidential race.
Plus, we've all seen scenes like this from Syria, but what are the stories of the people caught
up in the violence? I'm joined by an author who went there to find out. Stay with us.
[11:31:53] KINKADE: Preparations are under way in the North Korean capital of Pyongyang for a rare Workers Party congress, the first in nearly four
decades. CNN's Will Ripley has more now from the reclusive nation.
WILL RIPLEY, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Here in the North Korean capital, a massive work campaign is under way to get this city ready for
perhaps the most important political gathering in more than 35 years: the Workers Party congress. They haven't held one since 1980.
And at this event, North Korea's supreme leader Kim Jong-un is expected to consolidate his power and reinforce his ideology of developing the
country's nuclear program and economy simultaneously.
Ahead of this event, citizens have been mobilized for what the government calls a 70-day battle, a massive work campaign across Pyongyang.
Normally, the citywide wakeup alarm goes off at 6:00 a.m. here, but lately it's been going off an hour earlier at 5:00 a.m. so that citizens can
maximize the amount of productivity during the daylight hours. And many of them are working late into the evening as well trying to complete
infrastructure and building improvements as well as cleaning up the entire city, planting flowers along the streets and many other projects to get the
city in tip top shape for the event.
I asked one young woman why she does it.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We are -- Korean people think leader Kim Jong-un is our father, just like our father and just like mother, and so we trust him,
only trust him, and we do best for the building the strident country, and our country, in the world.
RIPLEY: She tells me she hasn't taken a single day off in 70 days, working during the day as a tour guide and in the evenings as part of a work crew
refurbishing the Kim il-Song stadium one of the many projects happening across the city.
There's growing speculation both in South Korea and the United States that the supreme leader could be preparing for an even grander show of force
ahead of this major event. Already this year, we've seen a reported H-bomb test, a satellite launch and just in the last few weeks four attempted
missile launches, now there is word from the intelligence community they believe North Korea could be preparing a fifth nuclear test and they say it
could happen at any moment. A show of force both domestically and internationally from a young leader in his early 30s
determined to present himself as the decisive force ruling this country.
Will Ripley, CNN, Pyongyang, North Korea.
KINKADE: Well now that Ted Cruz is out of the Republican race, will the Democrats come together to take on Donald Trump? Not just yet it seems.
Bernie Sanders is savoring his win in the Indiana primary and he has got a message for Hillary Clinton: the race isn't over yet.
Our Joe Johns has more.
BERNIE SANDERS, PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: I understand that Secretary Clinton thinks that this campaign is over. I've got some bad news for her.
[11:35:06] JOE JOHNS, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Bernie Sanders pulling up a stunning upset victory in Indiana over Democratic frontrunner Hillary
SANDERS: We understand, and I do not deny it for one second, that we have an uphill battle in front of us. But I think we have a path to a victory,
although it is a narrow path.
JOHNS: That path, mathematically impossible without swaying some of Clinton's 513 super delegates to his side.
SANDERS: Super delegates are supporting Clinton in states that we have won landslide victories. I think that's wrong.
JOHNS: But Clinton is looking past Indiana.
HILLARY CLINTON, (D) PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: I'm really focused on moving into the general election, and I think that's where we have to be, because
we're going to have a tough campaign against a candidate who will literally say or do anything.
JOHNS: Fundraising on the back of Trump's triumphant night, tweeting "Donald Trump is the presumptive night. Chip in now if you agree we can't
let him become president." As some Democrats criticize Sanders, saying he is impeding the Democratic path to the White House by prolonging the
Democratic primary. The senator making his case to CNN's Dana Bash last night.
DANA BASH, CNN CORRESPONDENT: By staying in this race, aren't you effectively making it harder for the Democrats?
SANDERS: You've already conceded the race for me, and I don't accept that concession. We are in this race to win.
KINKADE: Well, barring a surprise upset at the party conventions, it looks increasingly likely that the final matchup conventions, it looks
increasingly likely that the final matchup in November will be Donald Trump versus Hillary Clinton.
CNN's chief U.S. correspondent John King runs us through some of the election day scenarios.
JOHN KING, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Donald Trump tonight, the presumptive Republican nominee, that's what he thinks, it's what the Republican
National Committee says. The Democratic race is going to go on.
But imagine, we could talk about this hypothetically Trump versus Clinton, we could talk about this Trump versus either Clinton or Sanders.
Because you start with this. You start with the map of the last election. Bboth campaigns, both candidacies will do this. This Obama versus Romney,
332 electoral votes for President Obama, 206 for Mitt Romney. So, a landslide from electoral college perspective for Barack Obama.
Now, if you're Hillary Clinton, you think, OK. Is there anything on this map that I might lose? If you're Donald Trump you're saying, how do I get
from 206 to 270?
Well, again, Democrats will argue with this because these have been reliably Democratic states for quite some time, but Donald Trump thinks he
can appeal to blue collar working class voters, especially with his trade message, his immigration message, and change Pennsylvania. Can he? We'll
But let's just say hypothetically, that one is in play.
What does it do to the math? It makes it a little closer. Donald Trump thinks Ohio, always the biggest battleground state. No Republican has won
the presidency in the modern era without Ohio. Let's say Donald Trump if he can compete there. What does that do? Well, that's still a Democratic
victory and Donald Trump wants to go here and recreate what we used to call Reagan Democrats, blue collar workers up in Michigan and do it.
At that point, even if Donald Trump, even if -- remember, Obama won all of these states twic. Ohio went for Bush once, but most of these states --
Bush twice, excuse me -- but most of these states -- Michigan and Pennsylvania has been reliably Democratic since the late 80s. But if he
won all three of those, even that's not enough.
So, where would he go? Wisconsin? That would give Donald Trump -- Donald Trump could win four states across the Rust Belt, if you will, and win the
presidency based on this map, assuming Hillary Clinton took away none of the red states.
This is where the campaign calculations will start.
If you're the Trump campaign, you view this as your wheelhouse, use your economic message, to a degree your immigration message, your strength
message, try to turn blue collar white voters, especially blue collar white man, which is a deficit, a problem for Hillary Clinton
Now, is that realistic? Any Democrat would tell you no.
But this is what Democrats worry about. They say Hillary Clinton would have some work to do here.
Now, if look at the map and you say, let's assume for a hypothetical Ddonald Trump could actually pull that off. If you're Hillary Clinton, now
you're losing 270-268. If this is happening where do you get it back?
Where do you get it back? Well, one thing the Democrats will look at, they've been talking about this for some time.
In Nevada and New Mexico, used to be swing states. Now, some people still think Nevada, but most Democrats think because of demographics, the Latino
vote, these are pretty solidly Democratic states now, especially new Mexico and more and more Nevada.
So, what would Hillary Clinton try? Maybe Arizona. Right? Maybe Arizona. It has a Latino population.
Now, a Republican will say, no way. I can tell you, the John McCain campaign is nervous with Donald Trump as the nominee.
WOLF BLITZER, CNN ANCHOR: He's up for reelection.
[08:35:03] KING: He's up for reelection.
So, could the Democrats turn Arizona? If so, even if Donald Trump had the success changing the map here, Hillary Clinton, if she could find a place
to change the map that one takes it back.
Another one -- and again Democrats have talked about this, President Obama talked about
this, Senator Obama talked about this, is the state of Georgia. Bill Clinton won Georgia once, it was when Ross Perot was in the race, but they
talk about if let's say the Never Trump movement, the conservatives in the south stay home, Georgia is a state you have a significant African-American
population, if you had a combination of high African-American turnout, a Never Trump movement that keeps some conservatives home, is it conceivable?
Sure, it's conceivable.
But these are the calculations that now will be going on in all the war rooms and these are the calculations that people will be poring over the
polling data, not just battleground polls state to state, but how can Trump improve among Latinos? What is Hillary Clinton's support among working
This is now -- some of this work has already been underway. But now that's pretty clear -- crystal clear Trump will be the Republican nominee this is
now going on, Wolf, at full bore. What states can he potentially change? Is there anything he -- I mean, she or Bernie Sanders could turn back? We
go -- it's a fascinating race.
BLITZER: You've heard Donald often say he thinks his home state of New York would be in play as well.
KING: I believe that one when I see it.
But I will say this, if you look at all the recent general election polls, Hillary Clinton has a clear advantage.
However, if we've learned anything over the last nearly year, Donald Trump has been able to rewrite and change some rules. So don't count it out.
Assume, as most Democrats do, a competitive race.
[11:40:52] KINKADE: Well, let's get back to one of our top stories this hour -- the surging violence in Syria. It's just the latest horrific
chapter in the grinding five-year conflict as of last August the United Nations says more than 12 million Syrians were forced to leave their homes
because of the fighting.
And sadly, they're the lucky ones. More than 250,000 Syrians, including men, women and
children, have been killed in the conflict.
Those numbers are overwhelming and it's difficult to comprehend the sheer volume of suffering. Let's speak to Janine de Giovanni now who is with us
from New York. She's the Middle East editor for Newsweek magazine. And she recently published the book "The Day They Came for Us," which looks at
the horrific experiences Syrians are facing.
Janie (ph), great to have you with us.
JANINE DE GIOVANNI, NEWSWEEK: It's Janine, actually.
KINKADE: Janine, my apologies.
Janine, you describe the misery of those living in the reality of the Syrian war. Can you give us a sense of the day-to-day challenges that
these people face?
DE GIOVANNI: Well, they're living under siege in many places. And living under siege means you have no access to water, very little medical care,
there's not a great deal of humanitarian aid coming in. It means that your children don't have proper schooling. And the thing that we really have to
remember this war has been going on now for four years.
Four years is a very long time to undergo this kind of misery. It's basically an entire -- it's a primary school education -- five years
actually. And this makes it so difficult for people to try to live ordinary lives.
I think the main thing about being in a war is your struggle to stay alive. This is so much -- it's
difficult not just for the bombardment with the bullets, with the rockets, but also just with trying to keep families together, with your house being
destroyed, with your society being ripped apart, so it's -- I've reported a lot of wars and Syria is one of the worst.
KINKADE: You illustrate all the horrors of war, including mass rape and horrific torture through stories of individuals. In a war like this, where
the number of dead and displaced are staggering in themselves, how important was it for you to make these individual voices heard?
DE GIOVANNI: Crucial. Because I think it would be arrogant for me as a reporter to
tell the story myself. What I did in the book "The Morning They Came for Us" is let them tell their stories. And they're from both sides from the
Assad regime side and from the opposition side, but basically they're all -- they're human beings. They're not political
objects, they're people that are just struggling to stay alive in Homs, in Aleppo, in Damascus, in other places.
I covered the refugee crisis extensively and it's really a window into how people live and
how they die and I think that the only way you can really comprehend the situation on the ground is by hearing it from the voices of the people, not
from commentators, not from analysts sitting in think tanks -- although it is important to get the analysis and the history right --
but from the vices on the ground and what they have to say.
And I often say that the peace talks going on in Geneva right now, have very little effect of
what's happening to people in Aleppo, which by the way is going through its 13th day of a horrific assault on the city, to them peace talks and the UN
and the international community, is as far away as a distant planet.
What they really want is the end of blood shed and they want to return to some kind of normality of their lives, which will even in the post-war
situation take time, because so much killing, so much horrible, grievous human rights violations, crimes against humanity, and we let it happen on
As a reporter of conflict and someone who's gone through this in Bosnia, in Rwanda, in
Somalia, in Iraq, Afghanistan, I have to say, that I feel incredibly guilty as a human being for letting this kind of suffering happen for such a long
period of time, for five years.
It's a lot of people, 250,000 people, to be killed, 4 million refugees, 9 million people displaced within the country. That's not even beginning to
count the people who disappeared, which what I write about quite a bit in my book. Activists or other people who are picked up, put into prison,
never heard from again.
So, I think that we as people who are fortunate enough to live in places where there is not war, where there is not conflict, need to turn our focus
on to what is happening in Syria and things have to be addressed immediately.
Because we can't afford to go through another year, another loss of this much human life.
It also affects the entire region. The Middle East, the destabilization of the entire Middle East, and the refugee crisis of which everyone is so
concerned about. We have to look at where these refugees coming from and why and tackle the roots of it and also look at long-term measures to
prevent this kind of conflict and conflict resolution.
So, these are really my issues that I address in the book as well as trying to bring up the human
face to a horrific, bloody and violent war.
Janine de Giovanni, great to have you with us, author of "The Day They Came for Us." Thank you so much.
Well, you're watching Connect the World. A little later, a young child and his hero: how wearing a Messi jersey has had unintended consequences for
this Afghan boy.
And next, we'll take you to Ethiopia where a traditional garment is getting a modern make-over. That's after the break in this week's African Start-
AMIR DAFTARI, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Almost everywhere you look in Ethiopia you will see someone wearing a gabi: a hand woven cloth that in
many ways is a national symbol.
Now, this traditional cloak is being given a modern make-over in the form of baby blankets.
AMELSA YAZEW, FOUNDER, LITTLE GABIES: The idea came when I had my first child. So I thought, you know, babies have sensitive skin and it was the
best fabric to use for kids.
DAFTARI: Amelsa Yazew is the founder of Little Gabies, a start-up that blends Ethiopian heritage while embracing the needs of a new generation.
YAZEW: This place is called an oto (ph), it's area where the weavers and the mothers and all of their family reside.
DAFTARI: Amelsa's materials are locally sourced and 100 percent natural, something she is keen to highlight.
So this comes from where exactly?
[11:50:02] YAZEW: Yeah, this is claimed cotton. So, what we basically want is the thread.
DAFTARI: This method of spinning cotton into thread has been passed on from one generation to the next. And while these women are fast at it, the
process can be very time consuming.
Why not just buy the thread from a factory?
YAZEW: Our motto is everything is handmade. So, when I say handmade, this what is they do.
One we're maintaining the uniqueness of the blanket, and two, we're creating jobs and we're giving back to the community.
DAFTARI: This concept is maintained at every stage of the production process.
YAZEW: Welcome to our workshop. This is where we produce all our gabies.
DAFTARI: So, we spun the thread.
YAZEW: It gets delivered here and they use it to weave the blanket.
DAFTARI: Here, too, everything is handmade and organic and Amelsa oversees every detail.
It's these qualities that have made Little Gabi a success so far especially overseas.
YAZEW: We only cater to small, high-end baby boutiques mainly in the U.S. and now in Norway currently.
But we recently opened a store here in Ethiopia because of high demand.
DAFTARI: The opening of the store marks a progress the start-up is making. Contemporary design is a big part of its brand identity but so is the
history behind it.
YAZEW: Gabi has been around for thousands of years, but what makes our brand different is when you think of Little Gabbies, you think of the
designs, the packaging, the eco-frienndly, you nkow, natural blanket that's fun and practical for your kid.
DAFTARI: A product that's created for a new generation of Ethiopians with deep roots in the history of their culture.
Amir Daftari, CNN, Addis Ababa.
KINKADE: You're watching CNN and this is Connect the World with me Lynda Kinkade. Welcome back.
You may remember the 5-year-old Afghan boy who charmed many around the world after
he was photographed wearing a homemade Lionel Messi football jersey. Well, recently he and his family had to flee their home and their country because
of safety fears.
KINKADE: The 5-year-old boy playing football wearing a Lionel Messi shirt made out of plastic. These images of Murtaza Ahmadi became an internet
sensation earlier this year. He became an even greater celebrity after Messi sent him two autographed jerseys and a signed ball. The gifts
arrived with a promise from the Argentine superstar that the two would one day meet.
But now young Murtaza is learning that his sudden rise to fame has come at a price -- his own safety. Several members Ahmadi family were forced to
flee Afghanistan and settle in Pakistan after Murtaza's father said he received kidnapping threats against the 5-year-old child.
WAHID AHMEDI, MURTAZA'S UNCLE (through translator): These people felt that the different gangster and terrorist groups in Afghanistan might kidnap
him. There are such gangs that can kidnap him and then demand ransom. His father does not have so much money,
and that is why they have moved from Afghanistan to here.
KINKADE: The family initially moved to Islamabad, but found the pakistani capital too
expensive. They're now settling into the city of Quetta.
However, if things go their way, the boy may soon be playing football somewhere else.
[11:55:15] MURTAZA AHMEDI, 5-YEAR-OLD AFGHAN REFUGEE (through translator): I like Messi very much. I want to go meet him. I love Messi.
KINKADE: Until the day he meets his idol, Murtaza will keep honing his football skills.
KINKADE: In our Parting Shots, something you don't see every day in Cuba - - movie stars, super models and high fashion all coming together for a runway show put on by Chanel.
Our Patrick Oppmann has more.
PATRICK OPPMANN, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: So, I'm about to cover something I never thought I would see ever in Cuba and that is a Chanel
show. Think Chanel, some of the most of the expensive fashion in the world -- glamour, glitz, not something that really goes hand in hand with Cuba of
course a country that is run by a communist government.
For 50 years, Cuban officials have been against any kind of displays of wealth or conspicuous consumption but apparently that is changing right now
because we are in the center of Havana, a boulevard that was up until tonight pretty decrepit and now you can see they've fixed it up for the
show, they've put up lights. They've put up benches, really just restored this whole area that is around it are
slums, just for this show.
It's something of a seachange for the Cuban government, but it shows how important tourism is and how important publicity is. Ever since the fall
of the Soviet Union, Cuba has depended more and more on tourism. And of course after this show, you will see the Chanel show in Havana and fashion
magazines around the world.
This is going to make a big splash and that's what the Cuban government wants.
Of course, Cuba is on the map ever since President Obama and Raul Castro said that they would change relationships. President Obama, of course,
visited Cuba in 2016, then you had a Rolling Stones concert and now you have a Chanel show and so the Cuban people after being
isolated for so long are trying to get their heads around the idea that now their country is sort of this hot spot for well-to-do tourists, the jetset
if you will, and it's only going to increase after this show.
But, you know, the Cuban government tells their people, the proletariat, is that this is helping the economy, there will be a trickle down, they say,
to the people and that by having a fashion show like this one, fashion show where, you know, pieces of clothing cost more than the average Cuban makes
in an entire year, that that actually helps the revolution to endure.
Patrick Oppmann, CNN, Havana.
KINKADE: I'm Lynda Kinkade, and that was Connect the World.