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MAGGIE LAKE, HOST: I sense a great disturbance in the markets. The Dow is headed for more losses as trading comes to an end on "Star Wars" day. It's

Wednesday, May the 4th be with you.


LAKE: Tonight the general election campaign begins here. Donald Trump's rivals clear the way for him to be the Republican nominee.

The biggest recall in U.S. auto history just got twice as big. And she's the best female footballer on the planet. Carli Lloyd tells me why she's

fighting for fair pay.


LAKE: I'm Maggie Lake. This is "Quest Means Business."

Good evening. The most remarkable political victory in modern U.S. history is almost complete. This time yesterday there were three candidates

battling for the Republican nomination. Tonight there's only one, Donald Trump.


LAKE: After Trump scored a thumping victory in the state of Indiana, his main rival Ted Cruz dropped out. CNN understands the only remaining

challenger, John Kasich, will do the same in the next hour.

Speaking earlier to CNN' Wolf Blitzer Trump said the general election campaign has now begun, pitting him against Hillary Clinton.

DONALD TRUMP, U.S. REPUBLICAN PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: There's been a little flip and I'm even surprised by it. I thought that I'd be going longer and

she'd be going shorter. She can't put it away, that's like a football team that can't get the ball over the line. I put it away. She can't put it

away. So I thought that I'd be out there and she'd be campaigning against me. I didn't realize so yes, I'll be campaigning against her while she's

campaigning --

WOLF BLITZER, CNN ANCHOR: So the general election campaign from your perspective starts today.

TRUMP: Essentially it's started, I mean yes.


LAKE: Now, over the last 11 months the Republican establishment has gone from denial to acceptance. It's the five stages of coming to terms with

Donald Trump.


UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I don't think anyone predicted what happened.


UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: He's leading right now. You just looked in that camera and said he's a coward. Will you support him as the nominee?

CRUZ: Donald Trump will not be the nominee.

TRUMP: Kasich, you know the man that eats like with the large vice.

JEB BUSH, FORMER U.S. REPUBLICAN PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: He's a chaos candidate and he'd be a chaos President.

TRUMP: Little Marco.

BUSH: You're never going to be President of the United States by insulting your way to the Presidency.

TRUMP: Let's see, I'm at 42, you're at 3, so so far I'm doing better.

BUSH: Doesn't matter, doesn't matter.

TRUMP: Lyin' ted.

CRUZ: This man is a pathological liar. He combines it with being a narcissist.

TRUMP: I cannot believe how civil it's been up here.

CHRIS CHRISTIE, FORMER U.S. REPUBLICAN PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: Showtime is over, everybody, we are not electing an entertainer in chief. I am proud to

be here to endorse Donald Trump for President of the United States.

LINDSEY GRAHAM, U.S. REPUBLICAN SENATOR: If you nominate Trump and Cruz, I think you get the same outcome. You know whether it's death by being shot

or poisoning, does it really matter?

TRUMP: Many, many people are calling that you wouldn't believe and they're saying we'd love to get on the train, the Trump train they call it, but

we'd love to get on the team.

REINCE PRIEBUS, CHAIRMAN, REPBULICAN NATIONAL COMMITTEE: Look, we're here. We're going to get behind the presumptive nominee. It's pretty obvious that

Donald Trump is going to get to 1,237.


LAKE: Jim Gilmore was one of the 18 Republican candidates who tried and failed to beat Donald Trump to the nomination. He is also former head of

the RNC and was the Governor of Virginia, and he joins me now.

Jim, so good to have you. This has been, by any measure, an extraordinary process. You yourself have had an evolution when it comes to your thinking

about Donald Trump. Where do we stand right now? Is this the man with the skills and the character that it takes to be President of the United


JIM GILMORE, FORMER GOVERNOR OF VIRGINIA: Well, yes. I think very early on my objections were with some of his policy positions, but the fact of the

matter is that -- I didn't attack him as a person, and -- and my view is at this point we have to recognize that he has been the voice for American



GILMORE: For some ferociousness about American workers feeling like they have been left behind and left and not have jobs, he has voiced that and I

think that's why he ended up being the nominee. And I believe we have a very good chance of winning this election because we can't have Hillary

Clinton be President of the United States.


LAKE: You did not attack him personally, but many other Republicans did, just yesterday we had --

GILMORE: Yes, I saw.

LAKE: --Ted Cruz calling him a pathological liar, amoral, a philanderer. Can he given everything that's happened unite this party?

GILMORE: I think so. I think that Senator Cruz's comments were a real meltdown. But, look, the fact is this. Donald Trump is the nominee of our

party. He's going to be the nominee of the party, and now he is in direct contrast with Hillary Clinton.



GILMORE: And the Democratic Party on our side is arguing about the kind of brand of socialism the United States ought to have. Well I believe that has

to be rejected, and I believe we have to have a policy that understands the connection between the growth of the American economy and American national

security, that's very significant I think for our allies as well. We have to have a higher growth economy. You do understand the last three quarters

the growth has been stagnant in the United States, and I think that is creating this kind of frustration that's leading to a strong and decisive

leader, and I think that's what Donald Trump is presenting himself as.

LAKE: There is frustration, but Donald Trump has also had very strong words when it comes to the economy on trade. Some say creating a trade war which

would be destabilizing and bad for national security.


LAKE: And when you poll voters, including CNN polls out today, they are worried, frankly, about him having his finger on the button. This is over

and over again and Hillary Clinton on our air just earlier reaching out across party lines, Republicans, saying let's put this ugliness behind us.

Come join team USA, team America. She is going to make a play for Republicans who are nervous about Donald Trump and independents, too.

GILMORE: Well, I think the background has been its Hillary Clinton who's been reckless. She was the one who supported the invasion of Iraq.


GILMORE: She is the one who actually was very affirmative in her leadership about the invasion into Libya without any sort of planning after that about

what was going to be done or being taken care of. So I think that Hillary Clinton has no ground to stand on there.

Donald Trump is a strong assertive personality to be sure, but, you know, the fact is that I think that he's going to do fine when he becomes the

President of the United States. I'm not worried about his being spontaneous with national security policy.


LAKE: He's also upset people with -- you mentioned that you didn't attack him personally, you disagreed on some of his policies, and there's been a

lot of that, whether you're talking about barring Muslims, whether you talk about some of the trade issues, his embrace of Putin, his attitudes towards

women. Do you believe that we are going to see Donald Trump pivot on some of these issues, change his policy? Are going to see a different Donald

Trump now that the general election is upon us?

GILMORE: Well, I can't tell that, but I believe that what you're seeing right now is a person who's saying that he wants to make sure that the

United States is strong, that we're playing a critical role in the world.


GILMORE: I don't see any evidence of isolationism, and I don't believe he wants a trade war either. I don't think he's ever said he wants a trade

war. I think he wants to make sure that the United States has a fair situation in its international trade policies which goes directly to the

frustrations of American workers who have been displaced. And I think this. I think the elites that believe in globalization and, you know, I'm an

internationalist, I always have been, and I've spent a lot of time on national security and foreign policy, but the fact is that we have to be as

Republicans a voice for displaced workers and for people who have lost their jobs.


GILMORE: It doesn't do a darn bit of good to talk about the benefits of globalization when you've got a guy that worked in a factory in Ohio or

Michigan that suddenly can't feed his family or take care of his family. It's not going to -- he's not going to settle for the Democratic Party

answers that says, don't worry about it, we'll just put you on food stamps. This is a man of dignity and success and prosperity who no longer has that,

and he -- and he wants someone who is going to express that frustration and do something about it and Donald Trump has said that and that's why he's

the nominee.

LAKE: Jim, you are absolutely right that people out there are frustrated and mad. I wonder if this is an ugly slugfest, whether that is going to do

anything to help sort of ease that, put minds at ease. We're going to see, it's certainly going to be an interesting few months. Jim, please do come

back with us again.

GILMORE: Thank you, Maggie.

LAKE: Now, new CNN polls, I mentioned them just a moment ago, they show a Clinton verse Trump matchup would be one without precedence in modern

American politics.


LAKE: These are numbers out for us today. Hillary Clinton has a 13-point lead over Trump in a hypothetical general election. Both candidates have

unusually high unfavorable ratings and the voters prefer Clinton on most issues except for one, we just touched on it. They think Donald Trump would

handle the economy better, and the polls consistently show that is the top issue for voters this year.


LAKE: Hillary Clinton says Trump is a loose cannon and a risk to the United States. She sat down a few hours ago for an exclusive interview with CNN's

Anderson Cooper and says she can beat Trump by fixing the U.S. economy.

HILLARY CLINTON, U.S. DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: Well, it seemed pretty clear for some time how it was going to turn out, but I also know

what it's like to keep fighting to the end because I did that in 2008, and something can always happen, but it -- it didn't surprise me at all that it

was over last night.


ANDERSON COOPER, CNN ANCHOR: Assuming you get the Democratic nomination.


COOPER: Are you ready for Donald Trump? I mean, he's already got an unflattering nickname for you, he's unlike any other candidate probably

certainly that you've ever run against, that anybody has seen in a long time.

CLINTON: Well, you know, Anderson, I've seen the presidency up close from two different perspectives and I think I know what it takes. And I don't

think we can take a risk on a loose cannon like Donald Trump running our country.

You know, Donald Trump has said it's okay for other countries to get nuclear weapons. I think that's just downright dangerous. He has said wages

are too high. I think we need to have a raise for the American people, raise the minimum wage, get wages back going up. I think when he says women

should be punished for having abortions, that is, you know, just beyond anything that -- that I can imagine, that most women can imagine.

ANDERSON: He did walk that back.

CLINTON: Well, he's a loose cannon. I mean he's somebody who has said so many things, and I'm sure he'll be scrambling and his advisers will be

scrambling, but he's already said all of these things. He says climate change is a Chinese hoax, and I think it's real, and we've got to pull the

world together to deal with it. So you can go down a long list, some of which he's tried to bob and weave a little bit, but I think it's a risk. I

think he is a loose cannon and loose cannons tend to misfire.

ANDERSON: If he is a loose cannon though he's certainly willing to say things during a race against opponents and we've seen this already that a

lot of candidates were not prepared for on the GOP side. Are you ready for that?

CLINTON: Well I've sort of been in the arena for 25 years and I think nearly everything that can be thrown at somebody in politics and public

life has come my way.

ANDERSON: You feel like you know how to run against him?

CLINTON: Oh absolutely. But I'm not running against him, I'm running my own campaign. I'm running to become President, to really deal with the economy,

get it working again, take on all the barriers that stand in the way of people getting ahead. I have a very clear mission in this campaign.


LAKE: Earlier I spoke to David Gregory, host of "The David Gregory Show" podcast" and a CNN political analyst. I asked him what Hillary Clinton

needs to do if she does face Donald Trump.

DAVID GREGORY, HOST, THE DAVID GREGORY SHOW: You're going to have a pretty nasty race, I'm afraid. I think both of them have very high negatives as

candidates. They both have vulnerabilities, and they are going to go after each other very, very hard.

There's no question that out of the gate Hillary Clinton looks much stronger than Donald Trump. You look at head-to-head polling by CNN. She's

up double digits. You look at any number of the battleground states, she looks at a pretty wide map and a pretty wide victory, but it's still so

early. We really can't say what will happen is we get into the throes of the campaign. And I think what we all do well to remember is that no one

has done a good job accurately predicting Donald Trump's impact.

He took out a very accomplished and very big Republican field to make history by becoming the Republican nominee, now the presumptive nominee. So

I think it's too early to predict his impact and that he can't do better than he appears to be doing right now against Hillary Clinton.

LAKE: David, I mean, the one thing that someone said is that Ted Cruz was right that conservatives are angry and disappointed after Obama, but he was

wrong about the fact that so is everyone else. This is -- this is an electorate that's increasingly feeling disaffected. They are angry with the

political elite. They feel left out of the economy, and Hillary Clinton's not scoring well on the economy.

GREGORY: No. I think that's a good point, but I think we also have to remember a sense of overall perspective. So there's -- there's no question

that Republicans are unraveling. Republicans are feeling all of this ferment within the party, the Tea Party which rose up really under the Bush

administration after the bailout of the banks, after the financial collapse, really got that started and -- and coerced through the Republican

Party and a lot of these Tea Party leaders were not really listened to or appealed to at all in the part of the elites of the Republican Party. And

so you see then in the end you have Trump.

But keep your eye on another number, and that is President Obama's overall approval rating. He is around 50% which is a very high number. That says

something about the overall electorate not sharing the same level of anger that we see within the Republican Party or even a smaller sliver of the

Democratic Party. And that becomes really important as you start to see Hillary Clinton campaign in the fall with the aid of former President

Clinton and Barack and Michelle Obama out there campaigning for her as well.


So the level of anger is real. The economic message and the economic message of Trump is very potent, and no doubt she will try to get in on

that and formulate her own economic message to compete with that. But that overall anger in the electorate is something we have to watch over time to

see how big it is in the general election electorate.

LAKE: A huge headache for the U.S. auto industry. One in five vehicles on the road in the States could be a death trap.


LAKE: Now, millions more cars are recalled because of potentially dangerous air bags.



LAKE: The largest auto recall in American history just got even larger. Millions more cars fitted with Takata air bags will have to be replaced.

The number of cars affected is between 35 million and 40 million. Add to that the vehicles already subject to a recall order and the total is now

close to 70 million. The U.S. Safety Watchdog says 20% of the vehicles on American roads are carrying potentially dangerous air bags.


MARK ROSEKIND, ADMINISTRATOR, NHTSA: The Takata air bag recall which we're more than doubling today is the largest and most complex recall in U.S.

history. This issue is urgent.


LAKE: Joining us now is Jack Erad, Market Analyst for the auto industry specialist, Kelley Blue Book and he's in Irvine, California. I mean I read

this and I've been aware it was going on, I'm covering this story and I'm still shocked by this somehow. How alarmed should we be

JACK NERAD, EXECUTIVE EDITORIAL DIRECTOR, KELLEY BLUE BOOK: Well, it's very alarming. When you talk about the volume of vehicles affected by this and

that each one could be potentially fatal to its driver or passenger or several, you know, occupants. It's a very frightening situation and as

Administrator Rosekind said, this is a giant, giant issue.


LAKE: Jack, I think part of the problem and the thing I worry about is recall fatigue. I mean I get envelopes on my -- all over my counter, and

half the time I think they are just trying to get me in to sell me a car. It's hard to know what to take seriously and not. You know even if you're

trying to read through. Is there a chance that a lot of people haven't acted or are not really aware of the peril they may be in?

NERAD: You're spot on, Maggie. I think that's one of the biggest problems here, or one of the biggest issues that NHTSA has to face, that the feds

have to face, that the whole industry has to face. And that's that people don't pay that much attention to recall notices. And as vehicles get older

and older it's harder to get to the person who is owning the vehicle currently. So there are potentially millions if not tens of millions of

vehicles that will never be fixed or are unlikely to be fixed even after massive recalls.

LAKE: And is there -- do they have the capacity to fix them properly?


LAKE: At the beginning of this whole Takata thing, they were such a large supplier that there wasn't an obvious easy replacement to make or a product

that everybody felt really confident about. They weren't sure whether they would just have the same problems or if they had to go to Takata. Have we

worked through that? Is there a fix if your able to pay attention or is that still an open question?


NERAD: Well, there are still some fixes but it's also the volume of fixes. When you're looking at you know possibly 70 million cars being affected, I

mean, that's 70 million cars that need parts, that need replacement actuators for their air bags typically, you know someone will be inspected

and be OK but I think others will require replacement. That's a massive, massive amount of parts and a massive undertaking. Again, across many

brands, across many model years. It's, you know, one of the most mind- boggling things the auto industry has ever had to face.

LAKE: And we're in a period where there's a lot of things to get your head around. If I think about the ignition issues, the cheating on emissions,

the air bags now. Are new cars, safer than this. Have we put some of the issues behind us, or are we just hearing about it more?

NERAD: Well, the interesting thing is new cars are safer. Safety statistics would indicate that new cars are safer. But at the same time when the

issues come up there's a lot to be dealt with here, and I think more oversight is necessary going forward, and I think NHTSA has already moved

in that direction.

LAKE: And that is certainly good news. One thing I'm going to go do is take a look at all of those things in a pile that I haven't had a chance to get

to. Jack Nerad for us, thank you so much.

NERAD: My pleasure.

LAKE: Appreciate him helping me understand an important issue.

I'm going to stay with cars for a second. Tesla has released its earnings report and it has beaten Wall Street expectations.


LAKE: Tesla got a boost from the 400,000 pre-orders for its new model 3 car but is having production issues on the model "x." CNN money's Paul La

Monica joins me now.

This has been sort of the continual Tesla issue, hasn't, it Paul? There's great promise we're all enthusiastic, but can they deliver I guess?


PAUL LA MONICA, CNN MONEY CORRESPONDENT: That is true. The demand apparently is so strong that they do have difficulty meeting it. And this

looks like very strong demand, particularly for the model 3, the new "cheaper" Tesla that should be coming out soon.

Reading through their earnings report Tesla said they now think they're going to have 500,000 cars by 2018 annually. That was a originally a goal

for 2020 so it looks like they are really ramping up production mainly because of that model 3.

LAKE: I like how you say cheaper not affordable because that's the relative term. And it is a lot cheaper than the original model. Do we feel

confident? I think that you know the Tesla got such great reviews and enthusiasm around its niche ownership groups so far. This is now mass

market that we're starting to push into. Do we think that they can deliver the kind of quality I think that people are expecting them to?

LA MONICA: That's a great question, because obviously a lot of the Tesla faithful, they love the car, but "Consumer Reports" most recently has

started to sour a little bit on the reliability. They have said that Tesla, to its credit, is very responsive to customer complaints. A lot of times

they do very quickly respond, and that's a good thing because I think many people aren't thrilled with the maker of their cars. But tesla going

forward really is going to have a different audience beyond these super affluent people that can afford the model "s" and the model "x" and they

may not have as much patience for some of the glitches that can happen with an electric car.


LAKE: And those people by the way probably have multiple vehicles.


LA MONICA: They probably do, and gas prices remaining as low as they are, I think that could be a potential problem down the road too.


LAKE: We can't talk about Tesla without talking about the stock. I mean, if you look at Tesla, this is a company with great promise, going through

growing pains but an uncertain future and huge momentum in the stock valuation. And we just had Ford which a lot of analysts, like a lot of

fundamentals, and that stock is stuck stubbornly down, you know, well underperforming its peers. What about the expectations from investors when

it comes to Tesla?

LA MONICA: Yes, Tesla the expectations are always very high. It has the multiple to match and Tesla is in many ways, you know, a stock that is not

for the risk averse.


LA MONICA: Because clearly GM, Ford, even the international companies like Toyota, they trade at a much lower valuation. Of course, their growth is

nowhere near what you have with the prompts of Tesla. But this is a very scary stock, I think, for an average investor to hold even though it's done

quite well over the long haul.


LAKE: You can believe in the revolution but you've got to look at your portfolio if you're going to jump into the stock at that point. Paul, great

to catch up with you. Thank you.

LA MONICA: Thank you.

LAKE: Now, let's take a look at how U.S. stocks fared today.


LAKE: It was a down day on Wall Street, the Dow fell nearly 100 points or more than half a percent. Losses were worse in Europe. The main markets

were down across the board. London's FTSE fell to its lowest point in almost a month. Mining stocks dragging the index lower in part because of

concerns about global weakness in manufacturing.

Shares of BGP Billiton, the huge Anglo Australian mining company tumbled nearly 10% on Wednesday. This was a big mover.


LAKE: Prosecutors in Brazil filed a civil lawsuit against both BHP and Brazil's Valle seeking $44 billion. It's a claim for damages after a dam at

one of their mines collapsed last year killing 19 people. The accident unleashed a wave of toxic mud that buried a village and washed into the

ocean. Some have called it the worst environmental disaster in Brazil's history.

Shasta Darlington is live in Rio de Janiero, and Shasta, given all of the issues and challenges that we talk about on a daily basis, now we're going

to add this to the list, it seems.


LAKE: This is a lot of money Brazil is looking for, $44 billion.

SHASTA DARLINGTON, CNN CORRESPONDENT: That's right, Maggie, and it kind of took the mining companies by surprise. That's because if Valle and BHP

Billiton had already reached an agreement with Brazilian President Dilma Rousseff, and a settlement worth $6 billion. The idea was that the money

would go towards recovering the region, real bringing it back. But in Brazil federal prosecutors work independently from the executive branch, so

they did their own investigation of that wave of toxic sludge.

Remember, it buried a village. It washed kilometers down a river and then went out to sea affecting the fisheries there. And what they determined is

that the -- in the previous settlement the victims -- the individual victims and the families hadn't really been listened to and hadn't been

taken into consideration adequately so they come up with a much larger figure, $44 billion.

Obviously it's hit the stocks of both companies hard, and it's also just a reminder that this disaster is not going to be overcome quickly, neither by

the companies nor by Brazil itself. And another interesting detail here, Maggie, the Federal prosecutor said the way they came up with the 44

billion figure was by comparing this disaster to the deep water horizons spill in the Gulf of Mexico when 11 people were killed and there were of

course a lot of environmental damages there.


DARLINGTON: And that was a huge payout, and they figured there should be more in this case as well. Maggie?

LAKE: And I mean that is, a lot of people making that comparison, it's probably what has investors so concerned, Shasta.


LAKE: I mean, Brazil's gone down this road before. I mean it's not uncommon to ask for a really high figure to try to get the settlement somewhere in

between so I guess there is a possibility that the companies will come to a new higher arrangement. But how much is this going to get muddied down,

absolutely no pun intended, by everything that's going on on the political front with Dilma Rousseff? There seems like there's a little pay back going

on here as well and once again a chance to sort of you know taking aim at her.

DARLINGTON: You know this should actually work pretty independently because the Federal prosecutors really are so independent from the executive


But having said that there's a long history of the demands being watered down. So it's very likely that they will not agree to any where near the

$44 billion figure. But it certainly is good for the families in that region (inaudible) around the iron ore mine who really felt that they

hadn't been listened to.

And you'll remember Maggie, when this disaster happened it took President Dilma Rousseff quite a long time to even fly into the region because she

was facing all of her own political crisis and chaos. And they felt like they were really ignored by the companies, by the Federal government, and

so this is some payback for them. Again, it's not going to be anywhere near $44 billion, but they are trying to get more compensation, no doubt about

it Maggie.

LAKE: Absolutely. And I'm sure scientists and officials are going to take a good look and see some of the longer lasting effects of a natural disaster

of that scope.

Shasta for us live in Brazil tonight, thanks.

Now by Tuesday night Trump's path to the nomination looked clear, almost.


LAKE: Now the final obstacle is getting ready to step out of the way.



[16:30:00] MAGGIE LAKE, CNN ANCHOR/CORRESPONDENT: Hello. I'm Maggie Lake. Coming up in the next hour of QUEST means business, actor Orlando Bloom

tells me about his mission to send Ukrainian kids to school and FIFA's woman player of the year Carli Lloyd tells me about her fight for level

playing fields on pay. Before that these are the top news headlines we're following for you at this hour.

Sources are telling CNN that John Kasich about to say he's dropping out of the race for the Republican presidential nomination. That leaves Donald

Trump as the party's last man standing. He told CNN's Wolf Blitzer he might consider Kasich as his running mate.


DONALD TRUMP, U.S. REPUBLICAN PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: I think John will be very helpful with Ohio, even as governor.

WOLF BLITZER, CNN ANCHOR: He says he doesn't want to be a vice president.

TRUMP: Well, that could be. He said that. I've hear him saying.

BLITZER: Is he somebody you're interested in vetting?

TRUMP: I would be interested in vetting John. I like John. I've had a good relationship with John. I've gotten along with him well. But John,

whether he's vice president or not, I think he'll be very, very helpful with Ohio.


LAKE: Democratic front-runner Hillary Clinton says Trump is a loose cannon and voters should not take the risk of making him president. Speaking

exclusively to CNN's Anderson Cooper, she said she is hoping to attract Republicans to support her in November.


HILLARY CLINTON, US DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: And I invite a lot of the Republicans and independents who I have been seeing on the campaign

trail, who have been reaching out to me, I invite them to join with Democrats. Let's get on the American team. Let's get off the red or the

blue team. Let's get on the American team. We've got some great opportunities ahead of us. I happen to believe that America's best years

can still be ahead of us. I have that confidence. I am optimistic.


LAKE: The U.S. and Russia have agreed to extend a partial cessation of hostilities in Syria to the province of Aleppo. The agreement came into

effect today. The U.N. has observed all parties to observe the cease-fire immediately and comprehensively.

A wildfire in the Canadian province of Alberta has consumed at least a dozen homes and close to 3,000 hectares of land. One community has been

roughly 80 percent destroyed. High temperatures and bone-dry weather created the conditions for the uncontrolled blaze.

Live pictures from Flint, Michigan, where U.S. President Barack Obama is speaking. He's spending the day hearing for himself how people there are

coping with the water crisis in the city. The president told them the federal government has their back and said Flint would recover. The

president even took a sip out of a glass filled with Flint's drinking water, filtered water, to be more specific. In fact, he's drinking it

right now, and that water crisis related to lead. Let's listen in to the president.


BARACK OBAMA, UNITED STATES PRESIDENT: This is a feisty crowd. Hold on a second. All right. Everybody, settle down. I've got some serious points

to make here. So where do we go from here? Now, Mayor Weaver has a plan to fix the pipes in Flint. And unfortunately, because the state initially

cut so many corners, it's going to end up being more expensive, much more expensive now than it would have been to avert the disaster in the first


But the good news is that Michigan does have the funds it can use from the federal government to help Flint. The governor indicated that in his

budget he has put forward additional funds to replace the pipes. In order for it to happen, and I said this to the mayor and the governor, I had them

both in my car can, the beast. I told them I wasn't going to let either of them out until we figure this out. Had Secret Service surrounding



[16:35:00] LAKE: All right. We're going drop out there. We'll keep listening to it, of course, for you, staying with U.S. politics. Half an

hour from now John Kasich is expected to announce he's dropping out of the Republican race. Jim Acosta joins me now and they are dropping by flies.

I think everyone's shocked by Ted Cruz yesterday, John Kasich also saying he was going to stay in it and he's been pretty steadfast even though he

wasn't winning a lot of states. What do you think the change there for him?

JIM ACOSTA, CNN WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT: Well, I think the reality of they're just not going to be able to beat Donald Trump has finally set in.

And for Ted Cruz, you know, he basically said heading into the Indiana primary it's all on Indiana, and then he was decisively defeated by Donald

Trump. And this has happened time and again, and I think both of those candidates just decided let's rip the Band-Aid off and make this happen

quickly. It hurts less.

LAKE: Yes, but it still hurts.

ACOSTA: It still hurts.

LAKE: You can see everyone in the Republican parties trying to come around this. The only unifying thing is they want to win. Will John Kasich

endorse Donald Trump? Do we expect that tonight? Is he a possible running mate? I mean, what is his position here?

ACOSTA: I think it's too soon. I don't think we shouldn't expect that right away. I know from talking to people in the Trump campaign, they

don't expect Ted Cruz to get over, you know, the bruising battle that he had with Donald Trump right away. Just keep in mind, 24 hours ago we were

talking about how Donald Trump was floating the idea that Ted Cruz's father was somehow involved in the Kennedy assassination.

LAKE: And Ted Cruz was calling him amoral, a part logical liar and what knows what else.

ACOSTA: Right. And so some of these primary battles and hurt feelings are going to have to simmer -- that going to all has to simmer down and those

wounds will have to heal eventually in time. But Donald Trump, I mean, these last 24 hours is a reminder, Donald Trump is now the presumptive GOP

nominee, but he's also the leader of a party that's deeply divided. And there are still a lot of Republican Senators, governors, on the sidelines

right now saying, you know, I can't commit to voting for Donald Trump at this point. They were asked this question by their own reporters on a

daily basis. Now slowly but surely some are coming along, but he'll have to put a lid on some of these comments that have gotten him in nomination

in order to make that happen.

LAKE: Well this is the problem. That bruising primary left a lot of tape out there for this people to have to stand beside and say this is my

candidate. This is my man.


LAKE: What does Donald Trump -- do either of those men or those endorsements, will their supporters -- does he need them? It's worked for

him not caring about the rest of the Republicans? Does he need the Republican Party to unite behind him? And would John Kasich, who is kind

of moderate, be the person that Donald Trump some think is a Democrat? Would that really be the guy he needs?

ACOSTA: Right, I think that Ted Cruz, John Kasich, Marco Rubio, some of the folks who ran against Donald Trump, I just don't really see them as

being his running --

LAKE: And there are looking at the future, too.

ACOSTA: Right, and they're looking at the future to. I don't see them as his running mate in this general election campaign. Too many things were

said back and forth. The DNC has a stockpile of that videotape ready to go to put in the campaign ads. But we are hearing about certain names being

floated out there. Somebody like Rob Portman, a moderate Republican Senator, well respected from the party. Also from the key state of Ohio.

People like Nikki Haley, the governor of South Carolina, a woman. Indian- American, Suzanna Martinez, Latina governor in New Mexico.

Those are names when you add to the ticket may soothe of these jitters inside the Republican Party and start bring people on board. But it's not

going to be an easy process, and I will tell that you Donald Trump has been so unorthodox in getting here, he'll be unorthodox in terms of putting

together a ticket for his campaign and I'm told Ivanka Trump, his daughter, will have a say in this process. Will have an impact on this process.

LAKE: Oh, we had doubt about that she is a powerful person.

ACOSTA: She is.

LAKE: And one thing we also know is that he's been underestimated all along. So it's hard to see him as the uniter, but will have to watch that

space to see.

ACOSTA: I think you're right. I know there's a poll out this morning, a CNN poll out this morning that shows Donald Trump favored over Hillary

Clinton on how to deal with the economy. I know the economy is going to be a big focus.

LAKE: Yes. The economy, number one.

ACOSTA: I mean, a Clinton losing to Donald Trump on the economy, that's -- we'll have to watch it and you're right. But don't count Donald Trump out.

LAKE: We all have learned it's hard to predict what's going to happen, which is why we're going to talk to you again, Jim. Thank you so much.

Now John Kasich is due to speak publicly around 20 minutes from now. These are live pictures of the podium in Kasich's home state of Ohio. That's the

state you're going to hear a lot about in coming months. We will bring you his statement live when it happens.

Now the Greek Central Bank's website has fallen victim to hackers and they claim more attacks are on the way.


[16:41:45] LAKE: The Greek Central Bank says its website was taken down by hackers linked to anonymous. The hackers say it was part of a campaign

against central banks. CNN money's senior technology correspondent, Laurie Segall, joins me now. And Laurie, how worried should we be about this?

How serious was this?

LAURIE SEGALL, CNN MONEY SENIOR TECHNOLOGY CORRESPONDENT: You know, it's interesting. They are calling this operation Icarus, reference to the

Greek mythology, and saying that this is the operation to end all other operations.

LAKE: Bold words.

SEGALL: You've got to remember with anonymous and this loose collective group of hackers that the bark is always louder than the bite. What they

were able to do is essentially take down the website for a couple of minutes. They use something called a denial of service attack. This is

essentially --

LAKE: Pretty common.

SEGALL: Very common, it's overloading a website with traffic, so much so that it goes offline, and this one only went offline for a little bit.

Where you run into trouble with anonymous and these kinds of threats is they are saying this is only the beginning, and I did a little bit of dig.

And anonymous is only as good as the online falling. How many people are actually going to try to sign on for this operation of what they are

calling operation Icarus. It actually has a pretty big online following. They have Facebook groups of like thousands of people in there. If you do

a lot of digging in there you'll see, there's a site on line where they essentially have what their next targets will be. They're talking the New

York Stock Exchange, London Stock Exchange. They have the websites of every Regional Federal Reserve Bank, but what can they really do I think is

really the question and really they can take down the websites for a little bit of time.

LAKE: And we're not clear that they did disrupt financial interactions or should markets down. To cause trays to come to a halt. That's unclear

right now

SEGALL: Exactly, and in this particular hack it was down for a couple of minutes. You know, maybe, a little bit of business was lost but no

sensitive documents, no customer information was leaked. There was a denial of the service attack in 2012 against American banks that actually

had a bit of an effect. They got these websites down for about a day, so a lot of business was affected, but in this particular case, I would say they

are talking about let's do this over the next 30 days. It's a wait and see kind of game.

LAKE: It's good to have that perspective, but it sounds like something that we shouldn't completely dismiss. It seems strange to me when I heard

it. I'm not surprised that they are rallying against central banks but seems strange that the first targets would be the Greek Central Bank, a

country frankly on its knees and has issues with the European Union. Some people feel a lot of sympathy towards them as opposed to being the target.

It's always the case with anonymous that a lot of people find it hard to understand what their motives are. You talked to these people often.

SEGALL: It's true. Anonymous is this very loose collective group of hackers. I always say this to people. Anyone could be a member of

anonymous. Claim you're a member of anonymous.

LAKE: I'm not, for the record.

SEGALL: You are not, neither of my, right. But people all around the world can claim to be members of anonymous and they all kind of

collectively gather for these operations and these web forums. And that's why their operations are so random. Whether it's against Donald Trump or

ISIS or --

LAKE: Seems to be a gang authority though.

SEGALL: You know, and it's interesting. I actually spoke to a member of anonymous months ago, and I asked him what does this group stand for?

Listen to what he told me.


SEGALL: Is there a unifying principle to anonymous?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Basically anonymous, a legion of people who wants freedom, not only on the internet, but also in the streets and in their

real life.

SEGALL: What do you say to the folks who say anonymous breaks the law and that's not OK?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: If freedom is breaking the law, there's something wrong with the law.


[16:45:00] SEGALL: It's this idea hacktivism. If they see something. They want to take matters into their own hands. So maybe they could, or

maybe they try to hack, and this can be, you know, they aren't known as being sophisticated hackers, but they are known for when they come together

for a certain cause they can do some damage.

LAKE: it's always the worry with vigilantes. You can believe in the cause, but you worry who are the decision-makers. And it's not transparent

enough. All right, were going to watch it closely and see if they follow through on their threats. Laurie, thank you so much. Laurie Segall for


Now the Hollywood star Orlando Bloom is taking on a new role trying to draw attention the conflict in Ukraine and the impact on innocent

schoolchildren. The UNICEF Goodwill Ambassador is working with the UN to try to raise $4 billion to help millions of children caught in terrifying

crisis around the world. Bloom recently visited classrooms hit by shelling in eastern Ukraine.


ORLANDO BLOOM, UNICEF GOODWILL AMBASSADOR: Children need the support of teachers, communities, families. There's a comfort in that. When they sit

in these classrooms now, many of the schools are -- like the school that I visited, there are currently 250 people and originally there's 850. So

half of the classrooms are more than half empty. I imagined -- I was thinking for my son how unnerving it would be, you know, to be sitting in

your classroom with half of your classmates not present because they fled the conflict.

So UNICEF has been working with the schools to rehabilitate many of the schools. So many of them have been damaged. One in five schools in the

region is badly damaged and in need of assistance. And it's things like social psychological care, you know, to help children to feel just normal

again in a way and to integrate become into an everyday sort of situation and a class environment and to get the education that they need to have a

chance of a brighter future.

LAKE: You know, Orlando, this is obviously, it's very fresh for you. You came there and you saw it and went to it and saw it firsthand. Some of

your fans are going to see this and be moved by it and hopefully, you know, watch some of the material that you brought back. But others. you can

imagine, are going to feel a bit of fatigue and say, "Oh, you know, another celebrity cause," or "Hey, I feel but I have my own problems or what can I

do? I'm only one person." What's your message?

BLOOM: This is an issue that has disappeared from the press, but it's happening in central Europe. If this was you, if this was your child

sitting in their classroom in New York or Los Angeles or in London and shells were going overhead and children were cowering for their lives, how

would you feel? What sense of responsibility would you have and what would you want to do to help? UNICEF time and time again supports these

children. I would encourage people to go on their site to make a donation, but also just to have the education, to have an understanding of it. I

think it's so important that we all take ourselves out of the bubbles that we often live in and think about what these children and these terrible

circumstances are dealing with, and have at least an understanding of that and do what we can to help.


LAKE: And it is difficult for many of us to understand the scale of these disasters. This is just some of what Orlando Bloom saw in his work.


BLOOM: This sign here says bomb shelter. This school was hit during the conflict. Does it scare you?


BLOOM: She said this was her chair to sit in and read. It's pretty cold down here. Yeah, she said it's really cold. Real intense for a little

girl to be down here for ten days.


LAKE: You can learn more about the campaign and how you can help at

Up next, I've been talking about American soccer star Carli Lloyd continuing to break new ground for women in the beautiful game. First, a

highlight from "MAKE, CREATE, INNOVATE."


[16:51:26] LAKE: They are two of the most popular names in U.S. sports, Amy Wambach, the former captain of the Women's National Football Team has

just signed a deal with ESPN as an analyst for this year's Olympics. And her teammate Carli Lloyd is now the first woman to be made a spokesperson

for Heineken. Lloyd is widely regarded as the best woman player in the world, and yet she's having to fight her own bosses at the U.S. Soccer

Federation to get paid the same as the men. I asked her how it feels to be breaking boundaries in the name of women's football.


CARLI LLOYD, 2015 FIFA WOMEN'S WORLD PLAYER OF THE YEAR: It's a huge honor, and I think it's just amazing that I am the first female.


LLOYD: You've got to prove yourself to make it.


LLOYD: It just all made sense because the way I align myself with brand partners.


LLOYD: My name, you can call me soccer.


LLOYD: Really just respectable to who I am as a person on and off the field. Heineken is a globally iconic brand and, you know, their owner is

female, so it just makes sense and just an honor. I mean, they are great to work with, and I'm just enjoying it.

LAKE: You feel like there's sort of a shift going on that maybe women's soccer is getting the recognition and the support that it deserves.

LLOYD: Absolutely. There's definitely ground breaking, you know, effects that are taking place and they are happening. I think, you know, just

aligning myself with a brand of -- with Heineken and, you know, getting paid the same as David Villa and Landon Donovan, I mean, that's huge. I

think it's huge, and just globally seeing CEOs doing well that are females. Our team, you know, fighting for equal team so it's just really, really

good things that are happening around the world, and I'm just happy to kind of be a part of this historic moment right now. I think it's just great.

LAKE: And there is a lot happening. A lot of people argue that there's a lot more that needs to be done. I mean, you have actually filed a

complaint against the federation fighting for equal pay. Why that that we're still having to have this conversation?

LLOYD: Females in general are going to just have to continue to fight for the rest of our lives, but that's the great thing about it. I mean, I

think anything worthwhile in life you need to fight for and I'm OK with fighting. We know we've proven our worth over the years and for our next

new collective bargaining agreement we want to get paid what we deserve.

LAKE: The financials are crazy when you look at this. You are the most winning team, the money that came in, the support and sponsorship from

fans, and yet you talk about this, $400,000 a year for the average for the top five. The disparity is huge.

LLOYD: In our world to be able to keep up with the men and to even, you know have our pay as equal as them very much to win every single game. We

have to win the Olympics and the World Cup.

LAKE: Is a much higher bar.

LLOYD: Yeah, and we have to actually play more games post-Olympic and post-World Cup to even receive more money and we want to fix and we want to

change that.

LAKE: I know you're doing that through the complaint. Would guys strike? Is that something you'd consider doing that?

LLOYD: Well, we reserve every right to continue to fight for equal pay and that's really kind of what we're all focusing on. I mean, we essentially

are going out practicing and really letting our attorney's kind of figure that whole stuff out. But, you know, we're willing to fight for whatever

we have to.

LAKE: If you don't ask for more you're not going to get more.

LLOYD: Exactly, yes.


[16:55:00] LAKE: By the way, $400,000 over that for the five -- top five men, $72,000 for the women. That's almost a fifth of what the men make.

Just to mull over that.

Now long ago in a galaxy far, far away, May 4 was a colt holiday among the most devout "Star Wars" fans. Now companies have taken "Star Wars" day

mainstream, and they are competing for attention online.


LAKE: "Star Wars" day was started by a ragtag group of sci-fi fans who wanted to honor their favorite movie series. Now, May the 4th has become a

way for brands to flash creative marketing and a few bad puns on social media. Heathrow Airport proclaimed it was a hub for the galaxy and tweeted

a picture of the millennium falcon on the tarmac and John Kasich celebrated May 4th by saying he was the Republican Party's only hope.


TEXT: 2017 OUR ONLY HOPE Upon defeating Donald Trump in the largest landslide since Ronald Reagan in 1984, President Hillary Clinton is preparing to name her newest Supreme

Court justice, Elizabeth Warren.

LAKE: In a spoof on the iconic "Star Wars" scroll, the Kasich campaign imagined a not so distant future where Donald Trump is the Republican

nominee. The Democrats have handily won the and now control the legislative agenda in the Republic. It then offers Kasich as the only

alternative who could lead the party away from the dark side and beat Hillary Clinton. Well, your eyes can deceive you. Don't trust them. CNN

soon learned that the force is no longer with John Kasich. We understand he will say he's suspending his campaign when he speaks a few moments from

now. We will take you to that news conference as soon as it begins. These are live pictures of the podium in Kasich's home state of Ohio. For now,

that's QUEST MEANS BUSINESS. I'm Maggie Lake in New York. The news continues now here on CNN.