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World Reacting to Donald Trump Essentially Clinching Republican Nomination; U.S. and Russian Submarine Activity Reaching Levels Not Seen in Decades. Aired 3:30-4p ET
Aired May 05, 2016 - 15:30 ET
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[15:30:00] DEBORAH FEYERICK, CNN CORRESPONDENT: The families are saying, oh, we are not going after that. We're going after the fact you're deliberately marketing to people you know are not qualified to handle these firearms. So it's a very interesting strategy.
BROOKE BALDWIN, CNN HOST: We have reached out to the gun manufacturers. Nothing so far.
FEYERICK: Correct.
BALDWIN: Deb Feyerick, thank you very much.
Come up next here on CNN, how the world is reacting to Donald Trump clinching just about officially the Republican nomination including prime minister who once called Donald Trump stupid.
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[15:35:00] BALDWIN: As word of Donald Trump's presumptive GOP nomination spread around the world. The reaction has been swift. Take Germany's conservative newspaper, for example, the quote is "the unthinkable has come to pass." While in the UK, Prime Minister David Cameron doubling down on his own anti-Trump sentiments.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Especially when G-7 moves to Italy next year that Donald Trump could be representative of the United States. Do you think you owe apology for calling him decisive, stupid and wrong.
DAVID CAMERON, BRITISH PRIME MINISTER: What I said about Muslims I won't change that view. I don't change that view. I will -- I'm very clear that the policy idea that was put forward was wrong, is wrong and will remain wrong.
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BALDWIN: Go to live London to CNN's Phil Black.
And we know Prime Minister Cameron says he has, you know, zero intention of apologizing. I'm curious bigger picture beyond him, how have others, how have MPS reacted towards Trump there in the UK?
PHIL BLACK, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Well, throughout the campaign, Brooke, they have launched with fascination, certainly, but increasingly disbelief and nervousness, I guess. And in particular, at points where Donald Trump has commented on the situation here in the United Kingdom. He has trigger a bit of a negative response.
At one point, it was around the time that David Cameron made those comments describing Donald Trump's ban on presumptive ban on Muslim saying it was stupid and wrong. Donald Trump also said that some part of London that are so radicalized, police here are afraid to enter them. That triggered enormous unhappiness, really here among police, politicians, Londoners as well because, well, it is not really true. Though there are clearly some points that Londoners, Prime Minister David Cameron, really disagree really strongly on with Donald Trump but they'll get to discuss these things because it is very likely that Donald Trump will, in fact, come here. Because that's what confirmed nominees do. They visit London some point.
David Cameron says he is very willing to welcome Donald Trump here and says he is, in fact, deserving of respect for having endured and triumphed during that long, grueling primary process, Brooke.
BALDWIN: And we talk about this as reminding our American audience, London could be on the verge of electing a first Muslim mayor in that great city.
Phil Black, thank you so much.
So from the UK to Latin America we go. Reaction a little closer the home. Just across the border, Mexico, former Mexican president Vicente Fox is backing down from his disarray attack on Donald Trump. Here is what he did say.
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VICENTE FOX, FORMER MEXICAN PRESIDENT: I will be clear. I'm not going to pay for that (bleep) wall. He should pay for it. He's got the money.
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BALDWIN: Now he's backing down. Sort of.
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FOX: Yes, yes. I'm humble enough as leadership should be, compassionate leader, if I offended you, I'm sorry. But what about the other way around?
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BALDWIN: Is, Rafael Romo, let's bring you in, CNN senior Latin American affairs editor. I see your smile and so let me just -- is that a sorry not sorry kind of apology?
RAFAEL ROMO, CNN SENIOR LATIN AMERICA AFFAIRS EDITOR: That's exactly right. What about the other way around. That's just hilarious. It is very typical of Vicente FOX. And the interesting thing about this feud between FOX and Donald Trump is that in terms of strategy, FOX used to be what Trump is now, meaning, he was -- he would portray himself as the ultimate outsider. That's what helped him win the Mexican elections in the year 2000. Now, that's where the similarities end. His strategy in terms of connecting with the people was uniter, not as a divider. And if you told him that there's anything similar between him and Trump, I'm sure Vicente FOX would not be very happy, Brooke.
BALDWIN: So there's Vicente FOX, there is also what we have been seeing with Argentina's leaning over into the world of sports. Tell me about the Argentine soccer team.
ROMO: Yes. It's a very, very clever and creative ad. But let me give you a little bit of background on this story. The United States is hosting the America cup, Regional soccer tournament that will bring 16 teams from central and South America to cities like Chicago, Seattle, Houston and Los Angeles.
Now, the ad from Argentina is very cleaver because it takes Donald Trump's words and turns them around to make a very simple point. That is, if the United States lets us in, we're going to be unstoppable. Of course, Brooke, the ad isn't talking about the people from Argentina, from Mexico, Latin America in general but the Argentine soccer team which as you know is considered one of the best in the world. So when Donald Trump says, they're killers, the ad shows their top players scoring amazing goals. When Donald Trump says, we need to build a wall, the way the ad is edited seems to suggest, yes, building a wall around the goal line is t only way you're going to stop us. Let's take a look at the ad.
[15:40:12] BALDWIN: Sure.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The United States. We don't even know where these people are all coming from. They're coming from all over. They're coming from South America. These are total killers. These are not the nice, sweet little people you think. OK? We have no protection. Anybody can come in. It's very easy. And it shouldn't be that way. We need to build a wall.
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ROMO: We need to build a wall says Donald Trump. And then you see somebody scoring an amazing goal, Brooke.
BALDWIN: Never a dull moment.
Rafael Romo, thank you so much.
And just quickly here, we just wanted to pop this up on the screen and want you to be the judge on this Cinco de Mayo, speaking of, you know, Latin American community. This is what Donald Trump has just tweeted out. This picture of him eating out of sort of taco bowl and he tweeted happy Cinco de Mayo taco bowls made in Trump tower grill. I love Hispanics. Apparently this is catching fire on line. You be the judge. Tell me
what you think. Send me a tweet @brookebcnn.
Next, CNN gets exclusive access to the world's most advanced submarine.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: So I'm standing on the bridge of the "USS Missouri." It's a nuclear attack submarine so rare visit, really, one of the most incredible things I have done as a reporter. And if you ever wonder what it's like inside underwater, come inside. We'll give you a view.
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[15:45:32] BALDWIN: Flashback to the cold war. U.S. and Russian submarine activity reaching levels not seen in decades. And in response, the Pentagon upping the game to try to maintain supremacy on the seas. It has seen in exclusive. Our chief national security correspondent Jim Sciutto went aboard the "USS Missouri," a U.S. nuclear tax sub. And the first line of defense against Russian submarine movement. Watch this.
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JIM SCIUTTO, CNN CHIEF NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT (voice-over: The "USS Missouri" nuclear attack submarine sailing to exercises in a deep dive off Florida. The Atlantic is on the frontline of a new cold war. We joined for an exclusive embark.
The "USS Missouri" is an attack submarine. It can launch torpedoes as other submarines and surface vessels. It can launch missiles at ground targets. It gathers intelligence. It can also deploy Navy SEAL units for special operations. It is the most advanced submarine in the world.
And it is facing the most advanced threats to U.S. submarine forces in decades. Russia is deploying attack submarine, in numbers and with aggressiveness and advances in technology not seen since the cold war. And now China, North Korea, Vietnam, India and others are joining a new arms race under the sea. Commodore Ollie Lewis commands ten Atlanta-based subs including the "Missouri."
COMMODORE OLLIE LEWIS, COMMANDER, SUBMARINE SQUADRON 12: We're operating places we didn't have to rely on an adversary being there to challenge us. That's changing. We have to now consider that there's an adversary ready to challenge us and the undersea superiority is not guaranteed.
SCIUTTO: New threats require a new state of readiness which we witnessed at every turn.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: 2-5 and 8. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Commence launch.
SCIUTTO: "Missouri's" 135 crew repeatedly train for anti-submarine warfare.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Fire!
SCIUTTO: They simulate firing torpedoes and cruise missiles from depth towards targets on sea and land.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Torpedo course 337, unite running. Wire good.
SCIUTTO: And they're constantly testing the sub's enormous speed and maneuverability.
We're in the midst of another steep ascent. You hear now alarm as we approach 20 degrees. We're going to get to 25-degree angle. Keep in mind, I'm standing up straight now. But as I'm leaning forward, that's keeping me vertical in relation to the ground as the angle gets sharper.
These are exercises but the "Missouri," the mightily mode to its crew, has come nose to nose with real world threats. Russia annexed Crimea and launched military action in Syria, the "Missouri" was deployed nearby. And when a Russian sub turned up off the coast of Florida in 2012, it is the "USS Missouri" called into action to track it.
That's showing, hey, where they can go.
COMMANDER FRASEN HUDSON, USS MISSOURI: See, I think it is operational experience. If anything were to ever happen they have experience. They know those waters. I don't think it's a political statement on their part at all.
SCIUTTO: The "Missouri's" greatest asset may be the silence. Invisible to satellites, virtually inaudible to other ships and subs.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Dive, dive.
SCIUTTO: Giving the U.S. the element of surprise.
HUDSON: Whether there is a submarine there or not they don't know. A potential adversary has to take that into the calculus when they make decisions to do bad things.
SCIUTTO: And so underwater is where the boats and their crews spend 90 percent of their time deployed.
So "USS Missouri" is coming into port now, May Port, naval station in Jacksonville, Florida, and that's not something if you're a submariner you do very often. Their most recent deployment, they out for 181 days, 163 days were at sea. That is the life of a submariner. And that is a call to action the U.S. Navy's 70 submarines are getting more and more often.
(END VIDEOTAPE) BALDWIN: Wow. He's back. He's off the sub.
SCIUTTO: Survived.
BALDWIN: Jim Sciutto, good for you.
You know, listen. I'm claustrophobic and I don't know how I would be on a submarine for 36 hours, let alone six months like these mazing men and women do. What was the thing that surprised you the most being there?
SCIUTTO: I think that when you are underwater you don't realize you're underwater. Once you get below 200 feet, because higher up you feel the roll of the waves but underneath that, it's just like this kind of a steady state. It's quiet. There is a bit of a hum. The temperature's always 70 degrees. The light's same. You don't really feel it. Now, of course, when we were showing off stuff like the angles and firing off missiles or, you know, practicing for that, of course, I mean, you get a sense very quickly that this is a, this is a weapon of war.
[15:50:12] BALDWIN: Did you get the sense that, you know, obviously, we want to stay at the top of our game Russia and Russian subs on our heels as far as technology is concerned?
SCIUTTO: I think the fact is, yes, we heard the commodore acknowledged that. I have heard that from others. Listen. The U.S. is confident they have an advantage. But they know that Russia is doing their best to try to break that advantage and try to catch up. And they just introduced a whole new class of submarines, the Russian have that is more difficult for the U.S. to track. And do we sometimes lose track of them? That's classified. They won't tell us that. That certainly seems plausible. And that that's Russia's intentions because these things operate independently. They give enormous amount of capability. If you pop up someone close and they have no idea that you are coming.
BALDWIN: Incredible. Incredible that you had that access. Thank you for sharing.
SCIUTTO: Thanks very much.
BALDWIN: Still ahead here, House speaker Paul Ryan, he is adjusting to Donald Trump at the top of his party's ticket. Will he endorse him? He sits down with Jake Tapper for an exclusive interview minutes from now.
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[15:55:38] BALDWIN: CNN's original series, "the Eighties" returns tonight with look back of the era's high-tech revolution. High-the, you like that? From the Walkman and the home computers to cell phones, the 80s was the decade when technology got personal.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: When these things started to pop up in the mid of the 1980s, the customers were people that had a business reason for having these things or some super rich dude who just, you know, wanted to show-off.
The big breakthrough idea was this idea of his cellular system.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It is called cellular because your car phone is tied in to different radio transmitter, each one called a cell. And as you travel the signal from the phone travels from cell to cell.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: This was something that never have done before. If you have not had one before.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: If you don't have now, you probably will have one in a decade say the phone makers as the price comes down into the range of other high-tech toys.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: There were people that understood in the early days that being trapped in a car was not freedom. People are fundamentally naturally mobile.
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BALDWIN: Joining me now is Yahoo tech founder David Pogue. We are talking and it's nice to meet you.
DAVID POGUE, FOUNDER, YAHOO TECH: Nice to meet you.
BALDWIN: You know, my producer called me and said that we're doing a segment of cell phones in the 80s. And I was like no we're not. There were no cell phones in the '80s. They were so like 90s.
POGUE: Yes, they were. You know like a Soviet army field telephone, this huge thing. And the funny thing is today phones are not even phones. I mean, phone is the wrong word for this.
BALDWIN: It's everything.
POGUE: You talk to someone under 20, the last thing that they're going to do is hold it to the head and talk to it, right. It's internet, it is app, it is not talking.
BALDWIN: Don't you remember when it was like, yes, they want to put cameras in phones, and you were thinking, no, I never going take a picture with my phone. Here we are.
POGUE: That's right.
BALDWIN: You wrote, you know, we all know, in love for dummy's book and you wrote the "Mac for Dummies."
POGUE: Yes, years ago. So, I mean, the mac was another big 80s phenomenon and that book was in the 80s phenomenon. And the funny thing about it is people say you wrote macs for dummies, isn't that redundant like it's supposed to be easy. But I think that Apple took something complex like the computer limited it to nerds and said that anyone can use this. But that sort of backfired in a way because now the masses were presented with the steel technology and a lot of them are frustrated by it. It's not as easy as pushing the buttons on an elevator. So there's a clash that begun and echoes on to this today and the high-tech and high featured count and those that are not prepared for it and don't get a manual.
BALDWIN: People don't read their manuals? I don't know what are you talking about?
POGUE: Imagine that.
BALDWIN: So from the huge Soviet army cell phone, the mac and the video games, I remember my era was sort of Atari and yours was Pong (ph).
POGUE: Yes. Well, the 80s was the birth of videogames, Pong was this $300 kit. You could connect to your TV. It was the first time that we had seen anything on our TVs that was not broadcast, right. It was our own doing. I had a friend Bryan Weir.
BALDWIN: Bryan Weir has Pong (ph)?
POGUE: Bryan Weir, he was the first in our block who had Pong (ph). He had Pong (ph). He had sit there, black and white, really crude graphics and it was like --
BALDWIN: You sat there and blew your --.
POGUE: Yes, exactly. Of course, we could not guess what videogames would look like today. But at the time it was like way this is like you're controlling what is on the TV. Mind blowing.
BALDWIN: What, if you could have brought one thing in 60 seconds I have, one thing from the 80s that we could still be using today? I love that - I have that bright yellow like sports Walkman and I would, you know, run around with my cool yellow headphones. What was your favorite thing?
POGUE: The walk man too - I mean, you know what? The truth is all of those things, the videogame, the first videogame, the first Walkman, the first phone, the first personal computer, all of that stuff in the 80s is still with us and it is modified in a slimmer form, it is all still with us. But the seeds were all planted then as people like me were getting out of college.
BALDWIN: Still with us. My mom has actually held on to my bright pink neon phone from the 90s which feel like this, you know, precious piece of history now. You hold on to it.
POGUE: Well, that's the answer to your question, innocence. I wish that we had the 80s innocence.
BALDWIN: David Pogue, thank you. Do not miss the episode tonight on "the Eighties" 9:00 eastern and pacific only here on CNN.
Coming up next, Jake Tapper. He has house speaker Paul Ryan. Stay right here. He is next.
