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Donald Trump Attacks Hillary Clinton Over Husband's Previous Indiscretions; North Carolina and Federal Government Sue Each Other; At Least Two Killed by Oklahoma Tornadic Storm; Ferguson Gets New Chief of Police; Dwayne Wade Shoots Basketball, Gets Stuck On The Rim During Game Aired 10:30-11a

Aired May 10, 2016 - 10:30   ET

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TOM FOREMAN, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): And one day later, First Lady Hillary Clinton blames not the President, but his political foes.

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HILLARY CLINTON, FORMER FIRST LADY: The great story here for anybody willing to find it and write about it, and explain it, is this vast right-wing conspiracy that has been conspiring against my husband since the day he announced for President.

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FOREMAN (voice-over): In private conversations later, notes taken by a long time friend say Hillary Clinton dismissed Lewinsky as a "narcissistic loony toon." And while she called her husband's behavior grossly inappropriate, she said the affair was consensual. And hinted it was spurred by the political pressure he faced. "It was a lapse. To his credit, he tried to break it off. Tried to pull away. But it was beyond his control."

Earlier this year, campaigning at a church, Clinton appeared to talk about forgiving her husband.

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CLINTON: It is human nature to say, "you got wine (ph). We know what you've been doing. We know what you've been up to. You go sleep in the bed you made."

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FOREMAN (voice-over): But she never overtly and publicly addresses the scandal. And in her 2003 book, she says she defended the President because she believed him. Erupting when he finally confessed. "Gulping for air, I started crying and yelling at him, 'what do you mean? What are you saying? Why did you lie to me?'" FOREMAN: Still, her handling of the matter is complicated. For

example, when she says survivors of sexual assault have a right to be believed, her critics summon the names of women who have accused her husband of just that.

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UNIDENTIFIED WOMAN: Would you say that about Juanita Broaddrick, Kathleen Willey, and or Paula Jones? Should we believe them as well?

CLINTON: Well I would say that everybody should be believed at first, until they are disbelieved, based on evidence.

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FOREMAN (voice-over): It is a heroic stand for some voters, and hypocrisy for others. Tom Foreman, CNN, Washington.

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PAMELA BROWN, CNN ANCHOR: I'm going to turn to some breaking news now. Take a look at these images out of New York City where workers, two window washers, are currently being rescued after scaffolding broke. You can see the rescuers right there, there on the collapsed scaffolding, trying to rescue those window washers.

A call came to the fire department around 9:50 this morning, that they were stuck on that broken scaffolding at 33 Maiden Lane in New York. Emergency workers rushed to that scene and it looks like at this point they have been able to -- or they are in the process of helping out those two window washers. Incredible images this -- from these -- the scaffolding from moments ago. Brought to us by WCBS.

Of course we'll continue to watch this developing story. I can't imagine how harrowing that must be for those window washers trapped on the collapsed scaffolding. All right, and we're being told that all the window washers are now in safely. Thank goodness for a peaceful resolution there.

I'm going to turn now back to Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump and the attacks against her. And I want to bring in our political commentators, Angela Rye, and CNN Political Commentator and Daily Beast Columnist Sally Kohn. Thank you so much to both of you for coming on.

SALLY KOHN, CNN POLITICAL COMMENTATOR: Nice to see you.

BROWN: We've heard Hillary Clinton calling Trump's personal attacks "reckless." Pro-Hillary group, "Correct the Record," now is releasing this ad. Let's take a look, and then talk about it on the other end.

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DONALD TRUMP (R), REPUBLICAN PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: She ate like a pig. And, I mean seriously, the wedding cake was -- it was like, missing in action. Well obviously it's great outer beauty. I mean we could say

politically correct that the look doesn't matter. But the look obviously matters. Like you wouldn't have your job if you weren't beautiful.

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BROWN: All right, just Angela, bottom line, you're reaction to that ad.

ANGELA RYE, CNN POLITICAL COMMENTATOR: My bottom line is that this is just the beginning, Pamela. They're just scratching the surface on the kinds of reckless things Donald Trump has said about women for decades. It is so rich that this is the candidate -- also no pun intended to say rich -- but it's so rich that this particular candidate is the one attacking Hillary Clinton. Calling her an enabler for her husband's indiscretions. When we just, it's going to take us more than a whole show, Pamela, to get to all of Donald Trump's indiscretions. So we don't have time today but if you ...

BROWN: You said it, not me.

RYE: I did. And I will say to you, one of the things that I just came across that's absolutely fascinating to me. Is in his book, "Think Big and Kick Ass," he said that he's been with married women. The quote is, "beautiful, famous, successful, married, I've had them all. Secretly the world's biggest names." This is the GOP's clear Republican nominee here, we're talking about. For the President of the United States. That same guy that's getting ready to get security briefings. Like, I'm completely over it ...

BROWN: OK, so ...

RYE: And it's so hard to believe that this is the same person who's attacking Hillary Clinton who was the victim of these indiscretions.

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BROWN: So then, Sally, should Hillary Clinton be saying what Angela is saying here? And really call him out more than she already is?

SALLY KOHN, CNN POLITICAL COMMENTATOR: I think .. this is the problem with this mess -- I'd like to use more graphic words than Angela did -- but with the messed up society environment in which we live, right? Let's just all stop. I know people are -- want to be careful in sort of throwing around the sexism double standard concept, here. But come on, America. You've got a woman being called an "enabler" for the indiscretions of her husband. Who by all accounts is a cad.

But come on -- but, whereas Trump, for his own affairs, known affairs, he's bragged about his affairs with married women, and his cheating on his wife. Is let off the hook. That is the definition of a double standard. I also want to say here the bigger problem is that Trump knows that when we're all talking about these personal attacks, and these snipes, that he's under -- this is his terrain. This is ground he knows well. And he doesn't want to talk about policies. He doesn't also want to talk about how the fact of the matter is that Hillary Clinton will be a better President for men and women in this country.

And if you really care about sexism, if you really care about treating women well, then let's talk about policies. Let's talk about the minimum wage, let's talk about paid family leave. Let's talk about healthcare for all, and childcare, and public education. And not just talk about this, this is, this -- we should be done with this conversation.

BROWN: You make an interesting point. You say look, this is his terrain -- and we have seen the past GOP candidates have gone to the wayside after trying to play that game with Trump. They haven't successfully been able to do it. What does Hillary Clinton do? On one hand she's really gone after him from the woman's card comment, but not really with the enabler comment. All she said was, look, those comments are reckless. What does she need to do here, Angela?

RYE: So a couple things. Pamela, I have to be honest with you in saying Hillary Clinton consistently has steered clear from this topic. And I think that there are some people out here who would say, "oh, it's because she's so secretive, what does she really think?" I think the reality of it is, is this is someone who was desperately harmed, hurt, humiliated, and embarrassed, by the leader of the free world, when these things happened.

She does not want to talk about it. That is her personal right. That is something that she resolved in her marriage, she should not have to be forced to discuss what her husband did, when he's not running for President. She is. It is ridiculous that Donald Trump would put this at her feet and make her limp through this pain all over again. It is just unreasonable.

I know that Trump serrogates (ph) are saying, "well it's because she came back at the women who accused Bill Clinton of sexual assault." What woman who loves their husband, or what partner who loves their partner, is not going to come to the defense of their partner when they truly believe them? That is the issue. And mind you, some of these things that have come out have not been proven still, decades later.

So we have a real issue here, and I don't think that Hillary Clinton, as knowledgeable and intelligent as she is, should wave through this mud. It is crazy B.S. at this point and I think it's completely a waste of her time. Mickey Mouse would be a better President than Donald Trump, point blank, period. And I think that she doesn't need to go there with him.

KOHN: And Mickey Mouse treats women better.

BROWN: Oh, go ahead?

KOHN: No, I said Mickey Mouse treats women better, too.

RYE: Hey, Minnie, you and me (ph). BROWN: But Donald Trump says no one takes care of women more than himself. And he says those comments against Hillary Clinton were retribution. But I have a feeling that this is just really a preview of what's to come in the general election if Hillary is the Democratic nominee. Angela Rye, Sally Kohn, thank you very much, appreciate it.

RYE: Thank you, Pamela.

KOHN: Nice to see you both.

BROWN: And still ahead, the legal battle over North Carolina's so called "bathroom law" getting uglier. The government and the state both standing their ground. Now suing each other over the controversial legislation. That's next.

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BROWN: A new legal drama is brewing over North Carolina's controversial, so-called "bathroom law." The Department of Justice and the Tarheel state pointing the finger at each other. And they want their arguments heard in court. CNN's Martin Savidge is following the latest for us. Martin?

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MARTIN SAVIDGE, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Pamela, you know there was some talk that perhaps North Carolina might back down on its bathroom bill. Clearly we've learned no, that is not the case. It is actually escalating, doubling down. It's filing a suit against the U.S. government and the U.S. government now filing a suit against it. It just continues to grow in this controversy.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE) SAVIDGE (voice-over): An escalating legal battle in North Carolina over the state's controversial, so-called "bathroom law." North Carolina and the Justice Department filing dueling lawsuits within hours of each other. Trading accusations of civil rights violations, and government overreach.

LORETTA LYNCH, UNITED STATES ATTORNEY GENERAL: The legislature and the Governor placed North Carolina in direct opposition to federal laws prohibiting discrimination on the basis of sex and gender identity. They created state-sponsored discrimination against transgender individuals.

SAVIDGE (voice-over): The state's Governor, responding to a Justice Department demand -- to drop the law, or amend it -- with a lawsuit of his own.

PAT MCCRORY (R), NORTH CAROLINA GOVERNOR: We believe a core, rather than a federal agency should tell our state, our nation, and employers across the country, what the law requires.

SAVIDGE (voice-over): The most controversial provision bans transgender people from using public bathrooms that do not correspond with the sex listed on their birth certificate. Attorney General, Loretta Lynch, a North Carolina native, comparing the law to segregation.

LYNCH: It was not so very long ago that states, including North Carolina, had other signs above restrooms, water fountains, and on public accommodations, keeping people out based on a distinction without a difference.

SAVIDGE (voice-over): North Carolina countering, saying the Obama administration is attempting to rewrite the law for public and private employers across the country.

SAVIDGE: This is not just a North Carolina issue. This is now a national issue. I think it's time for the U.S. Congress to bring clarity to our national anti-discrimination provisions under Title VII, and Title IX.

SAVIDGE: You know there's all sorts of ramifications potentially here, Pamela. The University of North Carolina -- very storied, very famous school in that state -- says that it's willing to comply with the federal law. But the Governor of that state is challenging well, just what exactly is the federal law? The Board of Governance for the University has a special meeting that's taking place today. So much debate now being sparked by a bathroom and whether or not people are being denied their rights. Pamela?

BROWN: Martin Savidge, thank you for bringing us the latest with that story.

SAVIDGE: M-hm.

BROWN: And still ahead right here in the Newsroom, a tornado outbreak hits five states, killing two. And the threat isn't over yet.

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BROWN: Tornadoes tear through five states. The worst storms hitting Oklahoma. That's where at least two people were killed. With the tornadoes there came dangerously high winds and grapefruit size hail. Left behind, destroyed homes with roofs and walls gone. The storm threat continues today. Meteorologist Chad Myers joins us with more. Chad?

CHAD MYERS, CNN METEOROLOGIST: Pamela, it does. It moves a little bit farther to the East, but that threat is anywhere from about Paducah, Evansville, to Cincinnati, and then along the Ohio River. And then North or South of that line by a couple hundred miles or so. But yesterday 21 tornadoes on the ground. Many of them quite large, especially the ones in Oklahoma. Likely over 140 miles per hour, which would get up there to that EF4. I didn't see any EF5 kind of category storms. But I did see some pretty large wedge tornadoes.

A lot of times you look at those tornadoes whether they're streaming on Periscope, or whether you're watching them later on on YouTube or whatever that might be, you don't know how far away the camera is from there. So it looks like it's all the way down to the ground, but it could be over a hill and that funnel -- or the bottom of the funnel -- not really even making contact. So you have to be careful, you have to wait for the weather service to go out and see what they see. Because they are the experts at figuring out how big they were.

Doesn't matter really, how big it is if it hits your house. Whether it's an E1, 2, 3, or 4, it's going to do damage. And the farther you get up the line, the more damage it's going to do. There is our bullseye for today. In Louisville, back down to Evansville, and into Paducah. And I'm even seeing already, some weather there. There's already weather moving into Cincinnati right now, but that's not what we're worried about. There'll be sunshine in here for a while, and then the next batch of weather will roll back along the Ohio River. And there could be storms all the way from Indianapolis all the way down to Bowling Green.

And your home town, Lexington, Kentucky -- and I just got back from Keeneland a couple days ago. So that's where -- Central Kentucky, a happy place to be and it's all green again. Winter's over, and everything in your home state has greened up for sure.

BROWN: I'm glad to hear that, actually going there next weekend. But I hope everyone stays safe with the threat of tornadoes. Chad Myers, thank you for bringing us the latest there.

MYERS: You're welcome, Pamela.

BROWN: Well folks in Missouri have a new Police Chief. Delrish Moss is the first African-American leader of the department. He was sworn in after a nationwide search. Moss says his background prepared him for the job long before he ever applied for it.

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CHIEF DELRISH MOSS, FERGUSON POLICE: I was one of those kids who lived in a neighborhood where the corner store doesn't exist anymore. Where places I'd come to -- go to that were convenient, have burned down. But I also got to experience what it was like to be a police officer, having to respond to that. And I think those things all were pivotal to my taking the job in Ferguson.

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BROWN: Well Moss takes over a department slammed by a Justice Department report, released of the shootings of Michael Brown. It found Ferguson Police were using arrest warrants as a revenue tool, among other findings.

And still ahead right here in the Newsroom, a fast break, and then it's nothing, but nothing for the Miami Heat's going wave. Will Wire is straight ahead. Coy Wire is straight ahead.

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BROWN: A big night in the NBA playoffs. The game with Dwyane Wade. He has a shot but you absolutely have to see to believe. I want to bring in Coy Wire, who has all the details on it. Coy?

COY WIRE, CNN SPORTS CORRESPONDENT: Pamela, let's talk about Steph Curry. Contrary to popular belief, he is not an NBA superstar. He is an NBA superhero. Put an 'S' on Steph's chest. Curry, playing for the first time since spraining his knee in round one against the Houston Rockets. A little rusty coming off the bench. His first three-pointer would be no bueno -- air ball. His first nine three- pointers, no bueno but Curry does what great shooters do. Keep on shooting until you find your groove. Curry knocks down the 3 and 0 and then proclaims, "I am back, hear me roar.

Seventeen points in overtime. That's an NBA record, 40 points in all, Laser (ph) zoner Paul Allen is like, "what the... what just happened?" Steph Curry happened, he's back. 132-125 Warriors win taking a 3 to 1 series lead. After the game, Steph Curry talked about how happy he is to be back at it.

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STEPHEN CURRY, WARRIORS GUARD: You know I love this game and love playing, and love competing. And really, really miss being out there with my teammates. And to help our team get a win tonight in that kind of fashion, and whatnot, that's -- that was a good feeling, you know, in that moment. To be back on the floor and playing.

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WIRE: Good to see that guy back. Now one guy who's playing at a high level right now, Dwyane Wade. And it was one of his shots that has everybody talking this morning. Trending online, check this out. Raptors-Heat, game four, overtime, as well. Dwyane Wade takes it to the rack, and it drops it in the bucket. It's going to drop in the bucket. Surely that thing's going to fall, right? No, it doesn't. When was the last time you've seen this happen? I mean the thing just gets stuck there, suspended, adding suspense to the situation. The players can't believe it, fans can't believe it. Wade would go on with his Heat, to win in overtime, 94-87. Now series tied at two games a piece, Pamela.

BROWN: That was so painful to watch. Oh my God, could we just watch it one more time? I can't get over it.

WIRE: Oh, let's do it.

BROWN: I think like, like how often does something like this happen, where it --

WIRE: You can't make that up. I mean I, maybe I've seen it once or twice before. I don't know about an NBA game. I mean, look at that thing, just nestled there. Nestled there, so --

BROWN: I don't know, I think they should give him the point. Little late now.

WIRE: That's right.

BROWN: Well, incredible. Thank you so much Coy Wire, appreciate it.

WIRE: You're welcome.

BROWN: And thank you for spending a part of your Tuesday morning with us. I'm Pamela Brown in for Carol Costello. "AT THIS HOUR" with Berman and Bolduan starts right now.

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