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[11:00:31] BECKY ANDERSON, HOST: Far bigger than you'd think and not going anywhere, Russian forces look to be digging deeper into Syria. We're
live in Damascus to explore what that means for the country's relentless civil war.
(BEGIN VIEO CLIP)
RODRIGO DUTERTE, PRESIDENT-ELECT PHILIPPINES (through translator): I was angry she was raped, yes, that was one thing. But she was so
beautiful. I think the mayor should have been first. What a waste.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
ANDERSON: Well, that's the man set to be running The Philippines. We're going to get you reaction to the man nicknamed "The Punisher"
becoming president ahead.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
TREVOR NOAH, HOST, THE DAILY SHOW: So for me, in America, when I go there I go, oh, yeah, I recognize that racism. That reminds me of home.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
ANDERSON: Trevor Noah tells me he finds himself right at home living in
the United States where things are very black and white. That's all ahead this hour.
Just after 7:00 locally, a very warm welcome to Connect the World. I'm Becky Anderson.
Well, even as Russia works with the United States towards peace in Syria, President Vladimir Putin is praising his military for changing the
tide of war through bombs and cruise missiles.
Now, Russia showed off some of its weapons that it's using in Syria A lavish military parade in Moscow on Monday.
President Putin says Russian warplane have flown more than 10,000 combat missions in Syria so far. He ordered a drawdown of forces there two
months ago, but Frederik Pleitgen found out the Russian military is still firmly entrenched in the Syrian war.
FREDERIK PLEITGEN, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: This is the Russian intervention the world has come to know. But Russia's footprint in
Syria seems to be far bigger than just combat jets. There are thousands of troops stationed at its main air base, disciplined and highly motivated.
We caught up with this first lieutenant during his boxing practice. "I'm glad to serve my country here," he says. "And I'm not afraid. What is
there to be afraid of in Syria?"
The west has criticized Syria, saying its air strike target mostly moderate anti-Assad rebels. The Russians is claiming they bomb only ISIS
and other terror groups.
But while Moscow says it's withdrawn most forces from Syria, on an imbed we saw what appeared to be several bases in Western and central Syria
with a variety of attack helicopters. Also, a brand-new base in Palmyra for its demining crews, with dozens of fighting vehicles and even anti-aircraft
On top of its own asset, the military spokesman says his forces closely cooperate with Bashar al-Assad's troops.
"We receive a great deal of information from the Syrian general staff," he says. "They're on the ground and close to the rebels. As for the
military technical corporation, of course, we help them as well."
None of this seems to indicate a full Russian withdrawal from Syria any time soon. And for many in the government-held part of Damascus, that's
The people here in the government-held part of Damascus seem to be very well aware of the extent to which Russia's military has helped Bashar
But they also say that if there is going to be a solution to the Syrian crisis, it has to come from Syrians themselves and not from outside
Violence still rages in most of the country. Reconciliation seems nowhere in sight. And neither is an end to Russia's involvement in the
ANDERSON: Well, Fred, joining me now from Damascus with a slight delay, I believe, a much larger force than many might have expected given
that Russia had said they were withdrawing.
The question is this: why? What's the Russian role in Syria, Fred? And wha's their endgame at this point?
PLEITGEN: Well, that's really the big question. The Russians really didn't give me sort of answers when we were with them. It's unclear why
they have so many assets there on the ground, Becky. Part of it could be quite simply for force protection, but of course the bigger your force i on
the ground, the more assets you need to protect that force.
Now, that base that the Russians have built in Palmyra is very big, it's very state of the art, it's very well maintained, but it also has a
lot of armored vehicles around it for that force protection, for instance. And also those very new anti-aircraft weapons as well.
So, the Russians on the one hand appear to be bringing more assets on the ground and also
they can move around very easily in Syria as well. But again, unclear what exactly their endgame is. It only seemed clear to us that their endgame is
(inaudible) want to leave Syria altogether, Becky.
[11:05:49] ANDERSON: Yeah, Fred Pleitgen is in Damascus for you. Apologies for the slight technical issues that we were having there.
All right, well the Summer Olympics are now just 87 days away, but the political turmoil is only escalating in Brazil. The plan to impeach
President Dilma Rousseff hit a snag on Monday, but now appears to be back on course.
The senate vote is now expected to happen on Wednesday.
Well, Shasta Darlington joins me now live from Rio tonight to talk -- well, quite frankly, the mess that is Brazilian politics, Shasta, and the
political consequences for -- potential consequences for the economy and of course the Olympic games should this mess continue.
Without getting caught up in the weeds here, what is going on?
SHASTA DARLINGTON, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: It's really hard to
keep track of, Becky, that's for sure. Even the politicians most affected were scrambling yesterday to figure out if an impeachment trial could still
go ahead. And that's because the senate is expected to vote tomorrow on whether or not to launch an impeachment trial. If a majority of Senators
approve it, President Dilma Rousseff could be stepping down to defend herself for up to 180 days.
And yet it's interesting, if you look at Brazilian media, I'm going to show you something here, Becky, these are the covers of the magazines this
week, the weekly news magazines, they've already got the cover of the man who would be interim president right here. That's because they've sort of
taken this already into account. They're assuming vice president Michel Temer will be the interim president of Brazil by tomorrow,Thursday, Friday,
And that means, of course, that they're trying to turn the page, get the economy back on track and really try and unite the country ahead of the
Olympic Games, which will be kicking off in August. Thats' not necessarily going to happen, however, given he's still going to inherit a deep
recession, a deeply divided country, and an ongoing corruption investigation that has engulfed as many politicians i his party as it has
in the president Rousseff's Workers' Party, Becky.
ANDERSON: We are 12 weeks and counting until Rio 2016. That will not surprise you in the least. Look, it's tradition to sound alarm bells,
isn't it, in the months leading up to any of these games, be it the summer or winter games -- Sochi, for example, stories abound of swollen budgets
tied to crime syndicates, there was anti-gay legislation, hate crimes talked
about . Even London in 2012 had its naysayers.
The Olympics never free and clear of whatever the political moment, which was a great line from one of the CNN commentators writing for CNN
digital today. And that is for all intents and purposes, the story in Brazil, isn't it, right now?
Though, we've been talking about whether these Olympics will go on and how they're impacted for it seems months now. What is the story?
DARLINGTON: Becky, I think that's always a sort of journalist's game. It is our job to point out the challenges ahead, but I have to wonder if
any city has faced this many challenges. A year ago we were talking about the polluted water, that's because raw sewage is still flowing in to the
venues where sailors, wind surfers, swimmers, rowers will all be completely -- will all be competing. That hasn't been fixed.
The only difference is there are so many new challenges. There is the Zika virus pandemic, which has caused just a series of birth defects here
in Brazil, more than 1,000 babies have been affected and prompted international organizations to warn pregnant women to stay away from the
games. Add to that the political chaos, which means we may see protests and strikes leading up the Olympics.
It also means the government hasn't had time to really focus on promoting these games. Where's all the advertising? Why aren't we seeing
Rio's beautiful beaches splashed across magazines and newspapers?
And of course an economic crisis, which has meant that Brazilians themselves can't afford tickets. I'd love to find out if any other city
has seen this many problems. In many ways a lot of problems will be overcome, the venues are on schedule but you're not going to see that
Brazilian enthusiasm that is so infectious and that we saw coming out really during the World Cup, at least it's not clear that we'll see it. We
may have to wait for the very last minute, Becky.
[11:10:13] ANDERSON: All right, beginning of August will be when perhaps one hopes
we really see that enthusiasm that we expect. All right, thank you for that.
Well, let's get you some of the other stories on our radar today. And Barack Obama will become the first sitting U.S. president to visit
Hiroshima, the site of the U.S. atomic bomb attacked which killed tens of thousands of Japanese civilians at the end of World War II,
the trip set to take place later this month.
Large tornadoes rip through the U.S. state of Oklahoma, leaving at least two people dead. The video you are seeing is from Elmore City (ph).
It's just one of 18 tornadoes reported in the state on Monday.
The group behind Emirates Airlines says low oil prices boosted its profits to a record level. Dubai's flagship carrier reported an annual net
profit of nearly $2 billion, a jump of almost 60 percent compared to the previous financial year.
Well, he's been a very controversial candidate and a firebrand mayor for seven terms. Well, now Rodrigo Duterte is poised to become the next
president of The Philippines. And our official tally puts him squarely out in front. In fact, his closest rivals are Mar Roxas and Grace Poe have
CNN's Alexandra Field has more on the man expected to become the next president of The Philippines.
ALEXANDRA FIELD, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Rodrigo Duterte vowed he was done after three decades in politics. Then he did an about-face. He was last to
join the field of other candidates for president in the Philippines. He's now at the top of the heap. And a controversial comment has landed him on
the international stage.
RODRIGO DUTERTE, PHILIPPINES PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE (through translator): I was angry she was raped, yes, that was one thing. But she
was so beautiful. I think the mayor should have been first. What a waste.
FIELD (voice-over): A crude joke about the gang rape and murder of an Australian missionary in 1989 in the city of Davao where he is still mayor
Duterte came under fierce criticism, but he refused to apologize. He's also made controversial comments about keeping mistresses in cheap
His remarks didn't phase his diehard supporters.
Duterte has a reputation for tough talk.
DUTERTE (from captions): If I become president, there is no such thing as bloodless cleansing. I propose to get rid of the drugs within 3-6
Criminals, I go after them, as long as I do it in accordance with the rules of law. I will continue to kill criminals.
FIELD (voice-over): Dubbed "The Punisher," one of the Philippines' longest serving mayors is running on hiss record of cleaning up crime in
the city of Davao.
DINDO MAHIT, POLITICAL ANALYST: We have seen the rise of polling numbers as he was able to tap on the voter frustration, voter anger, voter
fear about the rise in crime, the rise in drug issue in the Philippines.
FIELD (voice-over): But human rights groups have called for an investigation, saying that more than 1,000 people have disappeared from the
city during Duterte's tenure. Activists allege vigilante groups have carried out extrajudicial killings of criminals that are tolerated by the
He denies any links to the groups and he hasn't been charged with a crime.
His message resonated well with over a third of voters in The Philippines, a country struggling with issues of corruption, inequality,
and overburdened infrastructure.
MAHIT: He is being seen as the alternative to traditional candidates in the Philippines. His demeanor, the way he speaks, the way he has
answered questions has shown that he is an alternative to the politics as usual candidate.
FIELD: Early on Tuesday, Duterte visited his parents' graves, weeping as he asked for guidance and courage in leading the country.
Duterte has reached out to his opponents saying it's time to heal and move forward, though it's still not official it looks highly likely this is
The Philippines's new leader.
Alexandra Field, CNN, Hong Kong.
LU STOUT: Well, later this hour I'm going to get to speak to the co- founder of the Philippine Business Council here in Abu Dhabi. What the election means for doing
business at home and for the millions of Filipinos around the world. That conversation coming up. Do stay with us for that.
In Canada, a wildfire that forced some 90,000 people from their homes has now moved away
from the city of Fort McMurray, giving us a better look at the destruction that it left behind.
Officials say 10 percent of the buildings there have been reduced to ashes and twisted metal. Our San Simon got a firsthand look at what is the
[11:15:19] DAN SIMON, CNN CORRESPONDENT: I have covered a lot of wildfires, and this ranks up there with some of the worst destruction I
have ever seen. The first neighborhood I went to is called Beacon Hill. Sort of your typical middle class neighborhood with dozens, if not hundreds
I didn't see a single home left standing. The same thing at the second neighborhood I went to, homes burned down to their foundation. A lot of
twisted metal and wreckage, burned out cars, things of that nature. Another thing that sort of stood out as I was driving around town is the burned out
Alberta is a very pretty place, very lush this time of year. And it became clear immediately that it's going to take a long time for those
trees to come back.
Meanwhile, you have a lot of residents, and some 90,000 people who are not at home. And it's not clear when they'll be able to come back because
right now the town lacks essential services. Gas, clean water, and power.
And we spoke to one woman who is having a really difficult time.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: And you don't know when you can go back. And you don't know when you're going to see your kids again. It's tough. You just
try to do the best you can. Just try to stay positive and just tell them that everything is going to be OK. But really, you don't know if everything
is going to be OK. It's emotional for sure.
SIMON: Thirty two-year-old Melissa Glant (ph) is a single mother of two and she is battling cancer. Authorities say they feel for people like
her. They feel for everyone who can't go home. But they say they're not going let anyone back in until they feel that area is safe.
Dan Simon, CNN, near Fort McMurray, Canada.
ANDERSON: Well, still to come tonight, London's new mayor says Donald Trump's views towards Islam are ignorant and could make the U.S. and the UK
less safe. More on that coming up.
ANDERSON: You're watching CNN. This is Connect the World with me, Becky Anderson. Welcome back.
Now Democratic U.S. presidential candidate Bernie Sanders hoping for a strong showing in the West Virginia primary. His message resonating on the
economically depressed state, but the delegate math still isn't adding up in his favor, I'm afraid. Hillary Clinton is expected to win the
nomination by a wide margin.
Nebraska also holding its Republican primary today, but Donald Trump is the only one left in the race there. A new poll then shows Clinton and
Trump running neck and neck in a potential general election matchup in the key swing states of Florida, Pennsylvania, and Ohio.
Well, Trump's controversial campaign hasn't earned him many fans abroad. And now London's new mayor is joining the anti-Trump chorus. Phil
Black joining me from London's city hall to explain. What's been said, Phil?
[11:20:23] BLACK: Well, Becky, Sadiq Khan made a comment to a journalist about if he wants to get to the U.S. to meet with mayors there,
talk policy. He'll have to do it before January just in case Donald Trump does get voted in, because of his controversial policy on banning all
Muslims from entering the country.
Sadiq Khan said that he wouldn't be able to go by virtue of his faith. Donald Trump was asked about it, said taht Sadiq Khan could be an
exception. Sadiq Khan has responded to that, saying that's not really the point, it's not about him, it's about people close to him, in fact, Muslims
Take a listen to Sadiq Khan's comments.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
SADIQ KHAN, MAYOR-ELECT, LONDON, ENGLAND: Well, I think Donald Trump has ignorant views about Islam. It's not just about me. Donald Trump said
I'm the exception to his rule, but if you're a Muslim from any part of the world, you can't go to the USA.
My point is this, there are many Muslims who want to go to America to go to Disneyland, who are business people and want to do business in
America or people who want to be students in America.
We showed last Thursday here in London that it's possible to be mainstream Muslim and to be
western. It is compatible with a western way of life. And my point to Donald Trump is don't make an exception for me, reconsider your views on
(END VIDEO CLIP)
BLACK: So ignorant views on Islam. It's strong stuff, really.
And more than that, Sadiq Khan says that Donald Trump is making both the U.S. and the United Kingdom less safe because he is alienating
mainstream Muslims by talking about this policy of banning them from entering the U.S. and more than that that's playing into the hands of
It's the opposite, really, to what Khan and his supporters say electing him to the top job here in London has done. They say that by
electing him and by such a comfortable margin to be the key political figure in this big international city, it goes a long way to undercutting
that core argument in the extremist narrative, which says that the west hates Muslims.
As I say, difficult to prove, Khan would argue when London has elected a Muslim to be its leader and by such a comfortable margin -- Becky.
ANDERSON: Not often you have to compete with a bridge. But that noise behind you indicating that Tower Bridge is actually opening, which is
a great sight as you were speaking -- great sight out of London.
Listen, is Khan then likely to travel to the States any time soon? He's saying effectively he'll go
before the election in case he can't go at all. Is he likely to go any time soon?
BLACK: Well, I don't know about any time soon. He's just bedding down in the job really. He only took office effectively yesterday morning. He
is now getting used to the job. His first concern interestingly is certainly security, keeping London safe, he says, conducting a full and
total review of all the security planning in the city because he is is very much aware that it remains a big terror target.
But he has also expressed some interest in traveling to the U.S. to talk to the mayors of say New York and Chicago, other big cities that face
similar problems to London, notably a housing crisis, housing shortage. That's something that he is interested, he said, in traveling to the U.S.
and talking to the mayors of those cities about, Becky.
ANDERSON: Phil is just outside City Hall for you this evening in London. Thank you, Phil.
Huge parades in the North Korean capital have camped in a historic congress of the ruling party for the first time in nearly four decades.
In what was a highly choreographed display of affection for their leader, residents of Pyongyang
fill the streets. CNN's Will Ripley was there. He captured it all from inside Pyongyang.
WILL RIPLEY, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Few places put on a super-sized displays of public
adulation better than North Korea. It looks like the entire city of Pyongyang has turned out here, but the government officials here with us
say only about half of Pyongyang is here,which would still be more than 1 million people.
You might ask when do they have time to practice for these things? Well, when we come here, we see people practicing in the evenings after
work. It's workplace groups, it's school groups, it's neighborhood centers, everybody coming together spending hours and hours to prepare for
these displays that North Korea has really become famous for.
This time, it's to mark the end of the Seventh Party Congress and the election of the Supreme Leader Kim Jong-un to a brand new even bigger
title, chairman of the Workers' Party of Korea.
He also was up on stage waving at the crowd and standing beside his new party leadership. And what this means, the unanimous vote promoting
him and the fact that you see all the population out here celebrating the work of the congress, the leader moves forward with his plan, his plan to
aggressively develop North Korea's nuclear weapons, also trying to grow the economy.
Even though the vast majority of these people didn't participate directly in the political process, only the ruling elite who are standing
underneath the supreme leader who were actually at the congress had a vote, a unanimous vote not surprisingly. Still, these people, they were told by
their government what happened and now they are out here celebrating, not asking questions. This is what it means to be a citizen in the North
Will Ripley, CNN, Pyongyang.
ANDERSON: The latest world news headlines are just ahead. Plus, security now at the
forefront of what's known as the Brexit debate. I'm going to get you the very latest on what is an increasingly heated campaign.
ANDERSON: Well, the Brexit referendum is just over a month wait in the UK. And the debate over the controversial proposal is now turning to
Will Britain be safer staying in the European Union or out? Nic Robertson reports.
[11:30:03] NIC ROBERTSON, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: In the shadow of the Paris and Brussels attacks, Brexit talk is turning to
DAVID CAMERON, BRITISH PRIME MINISTER: And we'll only success in overcoming it by working much more closely together.
ROBERTSON: PM Cameron ramping up his case to remain.
CAMERON: Having a border isn't enough, you also need information. You need data. You need intelligence.
ROBERTSON: An estimated 1,500 ISIS acolytes back from Syria's front lines in Europe already. Is Britain safer in or out of the EU? In says
this former justice minister.
PAULINE NEVILLE-JONES, FORMER UK JUSTICE MINISTER: It is our security buffer in a sense. And we ought to keep it that way .
ROBERTSON: Europe, a buffer, intelligence sharing let's Britain see terror threats coming.
NEVILLE-JONES: Police cooperation is very important. And there, the law is EU law, that is how, for instance, the French police were able to
help the Belgian police on Belgian soil actually catch the terrorists.
ROBERTSON: But not all EU counterterrorism law pleasing all.
The MEP wants the UK out of the EU, the fault he says, new powerful EU extradition laws.
DANIEL HANNAN, MEMBER OF EUROPEAN PARLIAMENT: We were told when was introduced that it would only be used as an anti-terrorist measure. In
fact, it's now used routinely. And people often find themselves imprisoned without their case coming to trial
with the loss of liberty that would be intolerable.
ROBERTSON: A reality check for both in and out camps. Most recent UK terror plots like the brutal beheading of a British soldier in London were
And what of Britain's more traditional security challenge: Russia. America wants Britain in.
BARACK OBAMA, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: If you start seeing divisions in Europe, that weakens NATO, that will have an impact on our
ROBERTSON: The outcamp's most persuasive orator, London's flamboyant former mayor disagrees.
BORIS JOHNSON, FRM. MAYOR OF LONDON: What worries me now is it's the European Union's pretentions to run a foreign policy and a defense policy
that risk undermining NATO.
ROBERTSON: Johnson is outgunned massively on this. Five former NATO chiefs and 13 U.S. secretaries of defense, state and national security just
weighed in -- Brexit is bad for Britain, bad for the world.
But none of this careful calculus may count, not if ISIS attacks again just before the vote.
AIMEN DEAN, FORMER SPY INSIDE AL QAEDA: They believe that in the long run, the strategic goal is to break up the body of the European Union,
which they perceive to be a formidable enemy.
ROBERTSON: If there is another Paris, another Brussels, an attack in London, even, then
hearts may win over heads whatever the cost. The outcome of the referendum may be pull the drawbridge up.
Nic Robertson, CNN, London.
ANDERSON: That's Brexit for you.
Now, earlier in the program, we introduced you to the presumptive new president of the Philippines, Rodrigo Duterte. Now, the election has been
watched closely around the world, including here in the UAE. There are upwards of 600,000 Filipinos living hearing at any one time. And I'm
joined now by one of them. My guest this evening is Jovy Tuano He is the the co-founder of the Abu Dhabi Philippine Business Council. And he is the
CEO of the Asia Gulf Companies.
We're talking about a man who is a populist here, Rodrigo Duterte, whose supporters laud him for his tough talk and what they see as his
principled lifestyle. And his detractors say he is dangerous. Which one is he?
JOVY TUANO, FOUNDER, ABU DHABI PHILIPPINE BUSINESS COUNCIL: Well, he's somebody who people -- a lot of people fear and he's somebody -- I
mean, I look at him as a warrior. I mean, time has come that the Filipino people are looking for somebody who can fight for them, and being -- having
a president as also a commander-in-chief. This is what most people forget that when you are a president, you are commander-in-chief and you have to
be in control of the country from external forces or also internal threats.
ANDERSON: Let me ask you, this straight talking, you, I think, come from a region quite close to where...
TUANO: I was born in Manila, but I grew up in Cebu and my parents are from Mendanau where he comes from.
ANDERSON: So you're telling me that tough talk is straight talk, no nonsense talk, right?
ANDERSON; And you believe that this guy has what it takes to be commander-in-chief and president?
TUANO: Yeah, I believe so. I mean, he has the trust of the majority of the Filipinos, especially in this part of the world, and his no nonsense
talk, straight forward. And the language that they use is very -- it's not him -- it's very ordinary in many Filipinos. I mean, I've been to Mendanau
several times. I've traveled around the country more than 50 cities and towns around the country. It is -- in Mendanau where you have to be very,
very tough when you talk to people, otherwise you -- they wouldn't take you seriously.
ANDERSON: I want to talk about Filipinos employed here because you live here, you work here and you do a lot of business with those back home.
Many of those employed here of course take their salaries -- or send their salaries back home. And the Philippines is one of the largest recipients of
Take a look at this number, viewers. In 2013, according to the latest available data, more than $1.2 billion was sent from the UAE to the
Philippines. Now, that statistic speaks to the scale, doesn't it, of the expatriate community. And while they are abroad, they are very much
invested in what is going on back home and the future of the country.
Time and again, I hear Filipino expats telling me here that they want peace and development back home. Is this the man to give it to them?
TUANO: Yes. I mean, what -- for me peace and development follows after order. And we need a leader who can put things in order.
There are so many out of order things. So if you put order in the house, respecting the
government, respecting the policeman, respecting everybody down the streets, then you have peace and there will be development.
ANDERSON: All right, well this sounds like a man who can pull that off, then, because during his campaign, he made a promise to wipe out
criminality within six months.
At the core of this policy, by the way, is the use of extra judicial killings. That's going to scare quite a lot of our viewers when they hear
that. Do you think his presidency will be a period of stability or greater uncertainty? That's the question, isn't it?
He's talking crime. He's talking cutting down on corruption. The economy is in quite good
shape at the moment. FDI, foreign direct investment, not bad at all.
TUANO: Yes, that's true.
ANDERSON: Is this a man who is going to bring stability or not?
TUANO: Certainly, because he's addressing what most investors and overseas Filipinos are concerned about, is usually the corruption and
And to solve that in three to six months I think is not impossible, you know why, because most of -- the majority of the Filipinos voted for
him, and even probably the criminals, the underground economy, the people in the public markets in the streets are probably in red districts probably
voted for him as well.
ANDERSON: Because they want to cut down on crime, right?
TUANO: And those who are changing the crime have voted for him and they have to -- they have to walk the talk. So, change is going to happen.
It doesn't depend on the leader now. It's about a bottom-up approach.
ANDERSON: Will he soften his tone? That's an interesting line, a bottom-up approach rather than a top-down -- will he soften his tone,
though, do you think? Will he soften his tone?
TUANO: He already did. I mean, I've been watching his interviews for the past two days. I mean, after seeing the results, I mean, he's very
soft spoken and you have seen -- the world has seen him pray in front of his mother.
And there seems to be a call for healing. And I think it's time for us to move on and put the propagandas and the tough talk, the insults and
all this innuendos behind us and move forward.
ANDERSON: A lot of people might see some Donald Trump in him.
Let's see what is not the presumptive president of the U.S. yet.
TUANO: Yes, change and corruption has to start from each and every Filipino -- I mean, from me, from others, from my friends, from my family
and children. I mean, if you want to change something, it has to come from us. I mean, no amount -- no leader can -- we have to stop throwing waste
that caused flooding, we have to start following the traffic rules to avoid the big traffic jams. So it's on us, it's not on -- regardless of who is
ANDERSON: Have a new era. Thank you, sir.
TUANO: All right, thank you.
ANDERSON: Live from Abu Dhabi, this is Connect the World with me, Becky Anderson.
Coming up this evening for you, Trevor Noah speaks to me about matters of race hosting The Daily Show and on the race for the White House.
And accusations of political bias against Facebook. We will tell you where they came from and the company's response.
Stay with us.
[11:41:55] ANDERSON: You're with CNN and Connect the World. I'm Becky Anderson. 41 minutes past 7 from the UAE where we are broadcasting
Imagine being ousted at the head of one of the world's leading tech companies and then being totally cool with it. Well, that is how Twitter
co-founder and former CEO Ed Williams is handling it. He sat down with CNN Money's senior technology correspondent Laurie Segall to talk
entrepneurship and how to deal with the career's darkets moments.
LAURIE SEGALL, CNN MONEY: When people look at you they think success. I think like the phrase is like killing it, whatever they say.
ED WILLIAMS, CO-FOUNDER, TWITTER: Crushing it.
SEGALL: That's it. I'm clearly not an entrepreneur, not crushing it. But it's so much more than that. And entrepreneurship is really, really
hard. And you like take us to one of your darkest moments just like make everyone feel better and say even Ed Williams has dark moments.
[11:40:01] WILLIAMS: Well, early dark moments before I had any success included, I remember in my, my first internet company we just
called it an internet company in Nebraska in the 90s. I remember searching, literally searching in the couch for change, because I had
stayed up all night working by myself, and I needed some coffee and I had no money at all. And so I was looking around the office, and searching the
couch for change to buy some coffee.
That was many years ago, but as recently as a few years ago I got fired from being the CEO of
Twitter, which was incredibly hard and devastating, and, you know, it's a roller coaster.
SEGALL: When you're in the public eye and this is all happening what is that like?
WILLIAMS: Oh, it was excruciating. It was definitely the hardest thing that's ever happened to me. And it was confusing, and emotionally,
just, the hardest thing I've ever been through, by far.
SEGALL: How are you different now?
WILLIAMS: Well, when I was running Twitter, certainly I was in over my head. By the end I had never really seen a company run that was even
hundreds of people at that level. I'd worked at Google for a little while, but not near the top.
So -- I've also become a more -- a calmer and more confident leader, I think, in that, and more able to take the long view.
SEGALL: But it's easy to tell the narrative now, right? And then went on to create
Medium. Now, we're sitting on CNN talking about it. So, I guess everything has some kind of
WILLIAMS: Yeah. Yeah. I had a mentor tell me after that experience, when people have crises, then one of two things happen. They -- they don't
recover, or they do recover, and they get better. So they don't stay the same. It effects them. And he told me probably just to make me feel
better at the time, that you'll definitely be better because of this, even if don't feel it now. I'm finally feeling like that might be true.
[11:45:03] ANDERSON: Well, a lot of this year's U.S. election campaign has played out
across social media, like Twitter. But now one of its biggest competitors, Facebook, is facing an accusation of political bias.
An anonymous former contractor said he witnessed colleagues suppress conservative news from its trending section. A Facebook executive says he
has found no evidence that the allegations are true.
Let's go to New York and speak to CNN Money's senior media correspondent Brian Stelter.
Even if it were true, isn't that only what the traditional media have been doing for ions? It's called gatekeeping, right?
BRIAN STELTER, CNN MEDIA CORRESPONDENT: That is a form of what Facebook is doing here. And I think it's come as a surprise to a lot of
people that Facebook is involved in choosing or determining what's going to be showing up in the trending topics list.
You hear the term trending topics, you think it means what people are automatically talking about, that an algorithm alone is telling you what's
trending. But in fact, Facebook is weeding out some of the spam, some of the hoax news stories, some of the junk, frankly, that shows up on people's
Facebook news feeds.
So, you might say Facebook is coming at this with good intentions, trying to do the right thing.
But, if the company, if some staffers were trying to suppress conservative news or news of interest to conservative readers, that's a
perception problem for Facebook and it creates a lot of concern about how the company decides exactly what is rending.
So, as you mention, Facebook is denying this. It has no evidence this actually happened.
But you can understand how human editors always bring even subconscious biases to the work they do. And that might be the issue here,
that Facebook needs to make sure it has the kind of diversity that newsrooms strive to have, a diverse range of people with a lot of different
perspectives in order to ensure that it's being as responsible as possible.
ANDERSON: Will this storm, as it were, be in a tea cup as far as Facebook a concern.
Is it going to bother them at the end of the day?
STELTER: I do think it does, at least in the short-term, create a perception problem for Facebook, because there's been a long running
narrative that Silicon Valley giants like Facebook and Twitter are hostile, or at least not very friendly to conservative viewpoint in the conservative
Now, you can say that's true or that's false, it's a made-up narrative or there's some merit to it, but there is that perception out there and it
could create issues for Facebook down the road.
I think larger picture here, the bigger story here is about the mysteries of Facebook. Almost all of us use Facebook. We click on the
links we see on Facebook, but we know very little about how the algorithm chooses what we see and what we don't see, or how they assume an editor
choose what we see and what we don't see.
With great power, as Facebook has, comes a lot of quasi-journalistic responsibility. And I think that's the conversation I'm hearing a lot
today. People suggesting that we need to understand more about how Facebook constructs the newsfeed, how it determines what you see and what
you don't see because after all they're acting a lot like a media company, even though they say they're not one.
ANDERSON: Yeah. And that's a very good point, isn't it? What should we be allowed as consumers to know about how an organization like Facebook
works effectively, because 600 million people getting their news at some point during the week or month is it from Facebook at any one time.
I'm not sure that everybody really cares about how the actual system works, but those who do, do they have the right to know more?
STELTER: That's right. That's why we're hearing journalists and academics and other industry observers speak up and say Facebook needs to
be more transparent about how it works, about how the system works.
I've seen some calls for an ombudsman or for a public editor, the way a newspaper like The New York Times has, in order to invite people into the
process to understand the company's intentions.
You know, it's been proven from studies in the past that Facebook is able encourage you to vote, to cause more people to go vote, based on what
it does to the algorithm, based on what stories it shows you, and what messages it shows you.
If it has the ability to do that, it also has the ability to change you in lots of other ways, maybe
to encourage you not to vote, maybe make you forget it's the voting day. So, there's a lot of power that comes from the Facebook news feed. And
there's increasing pressure on the company to explain how it does what it does.
ANDERSON; Always a pleasure, sir, thank you very much indeed. Out of New York, Brian, with your analysis. Thank you, sir.
Still to come tonight, the U.S. presidential election is no laughing matter, or is it? We caught up with the host of The Daily Show when he
visited Dubai and got his thoughts on Donald Trump and a whole lot more. That is coming up for you after this short break.
Stay with us.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
JON STEWART, COMEDIAN: Are you eligible to run if you are a man baby? Or a baby man?
He is a man baby. He has the physical countenance of a man and a baby's temperament and hands.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
Former Daily Show host Jon Stewart's scathing critique of Donald Trump there, or the part
we could air anyway. Well, the part we could air, anyway, some of it had to be bleeped out.
Stewart is obviously no fan of the U.S. presumptive Republican presidential nominee, is he? But what about Trevor Noah, Stewart's
replacement on Comedy Central?
We got a chance to catch up to Noah. And he visited Dubai to launch Comedy Central in the Middle EAst. He shared his thoughts on the U.S.
presidential race, calling one of the candidates a comedian. He also says he's learned to expect the unexpected.
NOAH: I think the moment where everyone realized they don't know what's going on, that's probably the best, right? Because everyone
predicted everything. Everyone goes I know what's happening. I know -- nobody has a clue.
ANDERSON: Who do you think is going to win?
NOAH: I don't know. I genuinely don't -- it all depends on what happens, because I mean, if god forbid if there's a bad mass event in
America, Donald Trump shoots up because he is the reactive candidate. We don't even know what's going to happen between Hillary and Bernie right
ANDERSON: It's going to be tough for Donald Trump going forward, this will be a different phase of the campaign. If you had to give him one
joke, then, which could help him cope, what would it be?
NOAH: How do you give one of the greatest comedians joke? How do I give Donald Trump -- I feel like Donald Trump should give me jokes at this
TRUMP: By the way look, it really is mine, right? Look. Right? Give me a mirror.
ANDERSON: It's been rich for comedy fodder. The show to a certain extent some people might say is a bit disconnected from it. Is it because
you haven't got a dog in the fight as it were? You're South African.
NOAH: I don't think it's that. I think what people take for granted is when you're starting a new show, you are doing exactly that, you're
starting a new show. And so any late night legacy, any legacy has to begin somewhere. You can't manufacture outrage. You can't -- that would be
artificial. People will feel that.
What a lot of people thought was you would just get someone in the chair after Jon Stewart and
they would continue his anger, whereas he always said you don't do that. He he said to me, don't be angry, because I wasn't angry when I started.
ANDERSON: You have often joked about being...
NOAH: Born a crime.
ANDERSON: ...having a black mom and a white mom during apartheid.
NOAH: My mom was arrested for being with my dad. She would get fined. She would get thrown into prison for the weekend, but still she'd
come back. And she was like, whoo, I don't care. I don't care. Come tell me what you love. I want the white man! Whoo.
ANDERSON: Race, of course is a hot topic in America. And you've said that makes you feel
right at home. Explain.
NOAH: I've always been fascinated by race, because I believe it's one of the core disparities that we have in the world, is just all around race,
how we look. And I'm fascinated by that.
And America is not that dissimilar to South Africa in its history, you know, a group of people oppressed, a group of people trying to maintain the
status quo. So for me in America when I go there, I go, oh, yeah, I recognize that racism, that reminds me of home. I
recognize that challenge. It reminds me of home.
[11:55:02] ANDERSON: You've recently hosted your 100th episode of The Daily Show. And you have conceded that it's been tough. Do you still find
NOAH: That's a good question. That's actually a really good question, do I find humor funny? I really do. I really do. I believe in
the power of a joke. I just -- I -- you know, I've laughed my whole life. I've come from a world where no matter how poor we were, no matter
how much suffering there was, we always found a way to laugh.
ANDERSON: That was Trevor Noah.
Now, many of us walk past homeless people every day. Our minds, perhaps, a little preoccupied with our own lives; or we might see them
sleeping on the streets or asking for spare change. Each has a unique story to tell.
Our Parting Shots, then, for you this evening, one photographer went to document what is a
LEE JEFFRIES, PHOTOGRAPHER: I think my own sense of loneliness is what drives me out on to the street. What I do is photograph emotion, but
what interests me most is developing a personal relationship.
I often tell people that in a strange kind of way, I fall in love with the people I meet. They desensitized my own pain.
I feel like I'm photographing the initial moment when I laid eyes on that person, although
it's taken me the building of a relationship with the individual to get back to that starting point.
The deep personal connections I make with the people I'm meeting have a lasting impression on me. You'll find that I use light and shadow if a
metaphysical way to enforce emotion, faith, spirit, hope even.
The photographs I take are in fact the end piece of a long, emotional journey. They are my way or the act of saying good-bye to the person I've
My name is Lee Jefferies, and these are my parting shots.
ANDERSON: And aren't they absolutely amazing? I'm Becky Anderson. That was Connect the World. Thank you for watching.