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WORLD RIGHT NOW WITH HALA GORANI
Trump Attacks Media As He Details Veterans Funds; One Veteran's Take On Donald Trump; State Department Guidance Mentions Euro 2016 In France; Syrian Observatory: Russian Airstrikes Kill 23 People; South Korean Official: North Korea Missile Launch Fails; Cincinnati Police Investigate Gorilla Incident; The January Al Shabaab Attack on Kenay's Military; U.S. Presidential Campaign Disrupted by Protesters; ISIS Threatens Fallujah Residents; The Thrilling World of E-Sports; Katy Perry Hacked. Aired 3-4p ET
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HALA GORANI, CNN INTERNATIONAL ANCHOR: Hello, everyone. I'm Hala Gorani. We are coming to you live from CNN London. Thanks for being with us. This
is THE WORLD RIGHT NOW.
Under pressure because of some reporting from journalists to account for millions of dollars, a defensive Donald Trump went on the attack today.
We begin with the blistering assault on the media by the presumed U.S. Republican presidential nominee. Insults flew as Trump addressed reporters
today. He had been dogged for months to reveal how much money he in fact raised for veterans at an event he heavily publicized and where it all
While releasing that information, he said reporters should be ashamed of themselves for asking those questions essentially doing their jobs. He
called the reporters dishonest, disgusting, so unfair, and even sleazy. Listen.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
DONALD TRUMP (R), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: I'm not looking for credit. But what I don't want is what when I raise millions of dollars, have people
say, like this sleazy guy right over here from ABC. He's a sleaze in my book. You're a sleaze because you know the facts and you know the facts
well. Go ahead.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
GORANI: Trump routinely attacks the press at his campaign rallies. But this was a choreographed news conference where he was trying to appear
presidential. Trump says he has no intention of toning things down if he wins the White House.
Let's bring in Dylan Byers, a senior media reporter for CNN Politics. Dylan, let's talk a little bit about what happened today at this news
conference because he really went all out.
DYLAN BYERS, CNN POLITICS SENIOR MEDIA REPORTER: Yes, he absolutely did go out, and of course like you said, anti-media diatribes by Donald Trump are
nothing new. They've been a feature of his stump speeches, his campaign rallies, and his press conferences for the entire ten months that he's been
running for president.
What's different now is we're reaching this level, A, where he's once again attacking specific reporters, calling them names like sleaze, making these
personal attacks, and he's also signaling that he has no intention of backing down or ever stopping this.
We used to think that Donald Trump was going to pivot toward a more presidential tone for the general election. Asked today if this is what we
could expect from even a Trump presidency, let alone a general election campaign, he said, yes, I'm not going to stop attacking the media.
He was very unequivocal about that. You know, one person -- one columnist at "The Washington Post" called this a declaration of war against the
press. I think this -- I think Donald Trump knows that attacking the media is very good for him with his base.
I think he likes driving that wedge between them. It makes him appear more of an outsider despite the fact that he's benefited from media coverage
throughout his career and I think we will see more of this as the week and months go on.
GORANI: Here's what happened when our own Jim Acosta, our senior White House correspondent asked him a question at this same news conference
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
JIM ACOSTA, CNN SENIOR WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT: To follow up on that, you keep calling us the dishonest press, the disgusting press --
TRUMP: Generally speaking, that's 100 percent true.
ACOSTA: I disagree with that, sir. If I can ask you this question, it seems as though you are resistant to scrutiny, kind of scrutiny that comes
with running for the president of the United States. You're saying --
TRUMP: You know what? When I raise money -- excuse me. I've watched you on television. You're a real beauty. When I raise money for the veterans,
and it is a massive amount of money, find out how much Hillary Clinton's given to the veterans. Nothing.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
GORANI: All right, so this is an interesting strategy though at this stage of the race, as you say, because the media -- he's lashing out at the
media. But at the same time, certainly he appears very often on television and is given a platform in order to publicize his views and further his
BYERS: That's absolutely right. He loves the media attention when he can control the narrative. But you see, any sort of level of scrutiny, any
sort of even the most legitimate questions about this -- look, he would like the press to just be laudatory.
He would like the press to say, isn't it so great that you raised all this money for vets. Any money raised for vets is good. That's not in question
[15:05:06]What's in question is the fact that Donald Trump made a very public display of raising this money, and then the whole issue seemed to
disappear and there was no accountability for where that money went until reporters at "The Washington Post" and CNN and elsewhere brought it up and
made it an issue.
I'm not entirely convinced that we would even be having this press conference today if it weren't for the dogged questions of reporters, of
the media. So for him to stand out there and call the media dishonest, disgusting, you know, reporters are used to this now.
They've been dealing with this like I said for ten months. But you have to imagine that they're growing increasingly impatient with it and it is very
hard to cover Donald Trump's campaign objectively when he goes out there and makes these ad hominem attacks against the media with very little basis
to back that up.
GORANI: We'll see if that has any impact on his favorability, his campaign. As you say it works well with his base, how well will it work in
a general election setting, those are all essential questions as well. Dylan Byers, always appreciate speaking to you on the program. Thanks very
Beyond the vitriol, the substance of Trump's message today was meant to be charitable donations. It all goes back to when Trump skipped that Iowa
debate on Fox News to hold a parallel event to raise money for veterans. This is how Trump describes what happened next.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
TRUMP: I have never received such bad publicity for doing such a good job.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
GORANI: All right, well, CNN and the entire press corps were asking questions about the funds raised because of contradictory statements from
the Trump camp. He originally claimed to have reached the $6 million mark in donations then months later, his campaign manager told "The Washington
Post," it was more $4.5 million.
Last week Trump admitted it's almost $6 million including a million he donated himself. Let's speak to a U.S. veteran now, Jon Soltz is the co-
founder and chair of votevet.org. He served in the Iraq war. He does not support Trump. He is not one of those veterans who came out in support of
the candidate. Thanks for joining us.
Jon Soltz, first of all, is this putting this issue to rest for you, the fact that Donald Trump came out today, he said, look, this fundraiser made
in total $5.6 million. I personally donated $1 million.
He held up a check for a million dollars to the Marine Corps Law Enforcement Foundation and said here you go. It's for a good cause. As
far as you're concerned, does that settle the question?
JON SOLTZ, CO-FOUNDER AND CHAIR OF VOTEVETS.ORG: No. He is a joke and a fraud. This is somebody who for years -- Iraq war in this country weighs
from 2003 until 2011 and Donald Trump was AWOL in regards to supporting our veterans.
He was never involved with donating money despite his, you know, largess of wealth as he likes to tell us about, to the veterans community. So then
when he is in a political problem, he decides to hide behind veterans so he can avoid a political debate.
The only reason now he is giving the money is because CNN and "The Washington Post" did such a good job of exposing him for what he is, which
is someone who used veterans to promote his presidential campaign and now he got shamed into the giving the money. So I think this is --
GORANI: But he's giving the money, though. I'm saying that money essentially, the $6 million he promised to raise, he's pretty much reached
that, gave $1 million of his own money.
What's you're saying is, you know, he wouldn't have given any money had it not been for journalists digging a bit deeper and pressuring him to justify
the numbers and tell us where the money went?
SOLTZ: Absolutely not. I mean, this is somebody, like I said, who had been involved as a large, wealthy individual who is well known all over the
world and he's never been involved in helping veterans.
The only reason he did this was because he hid behind veterans. Why? Because veterans have huge amounts of credibility. Then he became exposed
for not donating the money.
I think that's really important for people to understand. This is not somebody who we have ever felt has supported our issues. To give you an
GORANI: But you have many vets -- go ahead.
SOLTZ: In New York City, in front of Trump Tower, there was individual veterans who were vendors for years. This law has been on the books so if
you were disabled you could be a vendor in front of his hotel.
And he petitioned Mayor Bloomberg to have these people kicked off the street because they are veterans. This is someone who attacked John McCain
and called him not a hero because he is a POW.
He is someone who has (inaudible) from Vietnam and someone who claims that he is qualified to be the president of the United State because he went to
a military academy.
GORANI: But Jon, you have many veterans -- I take your point, but you have many veterans, including those who were up on stage with him today who say,
look, he donated in the end to 40 organizations, including that $1 million check.
Listen to one veteran in particular who's a big supporter of Donald Trump on why he stands behind the candidate.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
AL BALDASARO, DONALD TRUMP'S 2016 VETERAN ADVISER: What I want to clarify here first of all, I would never, ever in a million years put my name on a
candidate that did not, from his heart, look me in the eye and tell me he was concerned about veterans. That's Donald Trump. I met him over a year
I've been involved with many fundraisers. There are many scam artists out there. He did the right thing by vetting these groups there. If you look
at some of the groups giving 20 cents, 40 cents on a dollar and they're spending the rest for their nice lavish trips. He gave 100 percent.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
[15:10:04]GORANI: All right, Al Baldasaro is a former Marine. He is attached to the campaign, but a former Marine at a vet. He is saying when
Trump gives $1, the whole dollar goes to the cause. None of it goes to other things like administrative costs. What do you make of those vets who
are very much in support of Trump?
SOLTZ: So I'm glad that you showed that clip of him. That veteran, I would be ashamed to stand with that veteran. He is an anti-gay, anti-
Islamaphobe. And as the former head of the CIA said, Donald Trump's anti- Islamic rhetoric is endangering our troops in the field and making this country less safe.
So the fact that Donald Trump picks that specific individual veteran who's well on the record for being excited about the fact that a gay veteran who
served this country in combat was booed at the Republican debate and is on the records for making lots of statements against Islam.
The fact that that is the one single veteran that he chose to pick shows that he has not been involved in the veteran space. He does not know a lot
of veterans because I would never stand with that veteran.
And the fact that that's who Donald Trump picked to represent shows you how much interest or knowledge he has on these issues.
GORANI: This isn't something that we've individually checked, some of those things you say are on the record, but this is something that you
believe is the position of that particular veteran.
SOLTZ: Fact check it, please.
GORANI: Yes, absolutely. If indeed it is -- which is quite possible -- Donald Trump becomes the president of the United States. Would you say he
would not be -- what would you -- would you respect him as a commander-in- chief essentially if that happens?
SOLTZ: I think he's presented a lot of issues that make it difficult for our military. He puts our military in the position where they could
potentially have to not listen to unlawful orders.
Donald Trump has talked about, you know, discriminating, killing of civilians, in places like Iraq and Syria. Donald Trump has talked about
things like waterboarding with is against the uniform code of military justice.
Donald Trump has defamed women, which is not allowed in the active part of the military. It shouldn't be allowed in society. Donald Trump has said
negative things about Muslims and Islam.
These are all things that even General David Petraeus wrote an op-ed and said this isn't how our military needs to do business in regards to
protecting our country.
So he puts senior military leadership in a very hard position because there is the potential that he would give a senior military leader an unlawful
order to kill an unarmed civilian.
According to the Constitution of the United States our military leadership could be put in a constitutional crisis to not listen to him.
GORANI: All right, Jon Soltz of votevets.org, a dissenting view here after that Trump event in New York. Thanks very much for joining us here on the
program. We appreciate it.
Well, he can explain impossibly complex matters of theoretical physics and cosmology with ease, but even Stephen Hawking, one of the world's most
brilliant scientists, is stumped by Donald Trump.
Listen to how he answered the question on "Good Morning Britain."
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What about the other big political story of the day in America? You are a man who knows the universe well. How do you explain
the phenomenon of Donald Trump?
STEPHEN HAWKING, THEORITICAL PHYSICIST AND COSMOTOLOGIST: I can't. He is a demagogue who seems to appeal to the lowest common denominator.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
GORANI: Well, Stephen Hawking there.
All right, we'll have more on the U.S. race a little bit later in the program. But for now, let's turn our attention to what the U.S. State
Department is saying. It's issuing a very strong warning to its citizens over the possibility it says of terrorist attacks in Europe this summer.
The guidance mentioned major events on the continent. We know there is Euro 2016. We also know there is the Tour de France among other big events
where large crowds can gather.
Let's go straight to Washington. Our global affairs correspondent, Elise Labott, joins us. Is there anything different about this warning that
would essentially point to the fact that the State Department is more concerned than it normally is?
ELISE LABOTT, GLOBAL AFFAIRS CORRESPONDENT: Not really, Hala. The State Department very clear to say they don't have any specific information about
the Tour de France or the European soccer championships or they're also talking about World Youth Conference coming up at the end of July in
But what they are saying is they know that terrorists are looking at some of these large tourist attractions, these large events where crowds are
gathering as a possible target.
If you remember, the State Department last gave out a warning of this nature, a continent wide warning at the end of March after the Brussels
attacks. This is kind of a renewal of that, saying, look, we know the summer travel season is coming up.
We want to make sure that everyone remains vigilant. They said they don't have any specific information about any credible threats to any of these
But they do want Americans and citizens around the world to take care when they're traveling, especially when they're going to be at these large
GORANI: All right, and we'll get back to that security situation in a moment. According to your reporting, the State Department spokesperson,
John Kirby, has said that the U.S. will start air drops over Syria in areas that are besieged and in need of humanitarian help
[15:15:07]Tell us more about that. I'm just seeing that this second that's why I just like you to expand on that.
LABOTT: That's right. Well, you remember that the International Syria Support Group has been meeting over the months. They gave a deadline of
March -- of May 31st for the regime to allow some of these besieged communities in Syria to allow aid groups in, to start in delivering some of
As you know, the situation catastrophic for these people. They say that the regime has been putting up road blocks, not letting aid groups in. So
there will be planning that will start to take place for air drops.
There won't be any planes that will be landing in Syria. Spokesman John Kirby at the State Department saying this is nobody's preferred option but
these communities need to get food, they need to get critical assistance.
And so the international community will start planning these air drops. They've done things of this nature before and they're telling the regime,
putting them on notice -- you better let these air drops go through.
GORANI: All right. So the plan starts tomorrow. We don't know when --
LABOTT: They don't know exactly when they'll start, but John Kirby making very clear they need to get aid in urgently. And if the regime isn't going
to let these aid groups to allow ground delivery, which is the preferred method, they say they will start planning for the delivery of these air
GORANI: All right, not an easy task. Thanks very much. Elise Labott is at the State Department.
Still to come tonight, civilians come under attack in the Syrian city of Idlib. One human rights group is blaming Russia.
Then later, it is a video that has sparked outrage and many unanswered questions remain. What are police looking into now days after a gorilla is
shot and killed in a zoo?
GORANI: The battle for Falluja is intensifying and the risk to civilians is growing. The United Nations says it has heard of hundreds of families
being held as human shields in the city by ISIS.
Here is where the battle is being fought. Falluja is in Anbar Province not far from the capital of Baghdad. We are talking Sunni heartland here in
Iraq. Fierce clashes have taken place south of the city.
Iraqi forces are trying to do what they couldn't do a couple of years ago, and that was really confront ISIS militants. A senior Iraqi security
official says ISIS used suicide attacks and snipers to block an advance into Falluja.
Now nearly 4,000 people have fled the city in the last week, according to the U.N. but here's the problem with civilians. They're really caught
between a rock and a hard place and really in the crossfire of this battle between ISIS and these security forces.
Look at this video here -- I should say, this is happening in Syria. This video in the rebel-held city of Idlib.
[15:20:04]You see rescue workers pull a tiny child from the rubble after a series of air strikes overnight. The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights
is pointing the finger at Russia.
It says one of the air strikes made impact near a hospital. A civilian target clearly. In all 23 people were killed. Fred Pleitgen breaks down
FREDERIK PLEITGEN, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Hala, people from that area say those air strikes in Idlib were some of the most intense
that they've seen in that area over the past couple of months.
Among those 23 people who were killed according to the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights, there are at least seven women and children among them.
And again, one of the places that was hit appears to be the vicinity of a hospital in that area.
So it is unclear whether or not the hospital may have been a target of -- but certainly it seems as though at least close to that hospital there were
some impacts in that area.
Now Idlib itself is an area that has a strong presence of Al Nusra, which is, of course, al Qaeda's wing in Syria. One of the things that the
Russians have said is that they will start an intense aerial campaign against Al Nusra in the coming days, weeks and months.
They say that that would begin starting May 25th. There are some who believe that maybe this could be part of that. Now, of course, it is still
unclear who exactly conducted these air strikes that happened.
The Russians, for their part, say it was not them, that they didn't even have any planes in that immediate area flying any sort of sorties.
It is unclear, however, who might have actually been behind it, whether it was the Syrian government, for instance, government air force who might
have been behind it. Again, at this point in time completely unclear.
Now despite the fact that Al Nusra, al Qaeda's wing in Syria, was not part of the current cessation of hostility, which is still in place -- however,
of course, it has a lot of issues in many parts of the country.
The area around Idlib has been very quiet over the past couple of weeks and past couple of months. So certainly for population in that area, this is
really a spike in violence they are seeing as this aerial campaign seems to be ramping up once again.
GORANI: All right, thanks very much, Fred Pleitgen.
Now there's been a setback in the search for a missing boy in Japan. We told you about this story yesterday. Thunderstorms are now hampering
efforts to find a 7-year-old who was left in the woods by his parents intentionally as punishment over the weekend.
Here's a picture of him. More than 100 people are searching the forest near the road and officials are doubtful the boy would have wandered deep
into the forest. While searchers try to stay hopeful, they are now, unfortunately, past the critical 72-hour time limit for survival.
Staying in Asia, the U.S. is condemning what appears to be another failed attempt by North Korea to test launch an intermediate range ballistic
missile. U.S. defense officials tell CNN the missile apparently flew for only a few seconds before it exploded. Paula Hancocks is in Seoul.
PAULA HANCOCKS, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): The (inaudible), an intermediate range ballistic missile North Korea is believed to have
unveiled at a military parade in 2010. Its lower range missile puts Japan and South Korea in its sights, a longer range could put the U.S. military
bases in Guam a target.
But so far it doesn't work. Not through lack of trying, North Korea launched three (inaudible) in April. Tuesday's may have been the fourth.
At a G7 meeting last week, U.S. President Barack Obama pointed out even failures are dangerous.
BARACK OBAMA, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA: North Korea is a big worry for all of us. They're not at the point right now where they can
effectively hit U.S. targets. But each time that they test, even if those tests fail, they learn something.
HANCOCKS: Another missile test in tandem with North Korea offering military talks with the south, an offer made more than once in recent weeks
but rejected. Seoul says without denuclearization on the table, there is no point in just talking.
JOHN DELURY, YONSEI UNIVERSITY: North Korea typically has sort of doves and hawks flying at the same time. So, even when they are doing things
like testing weapons, they are also testing the waters to see who will talk.
HANCOCKS: But Seoul is in no mood to talk. Japan also increasingly concerned by Pyongyang's testing. The military moving patriot missiles to
its Defense Ministry Monday night in anticipation of Tuesday's launch.
HANCOCKS: China fell short of condemning its ally, North Korea, calling simply for all relevant parties to refrain from taking any actions that
could escalate tensions. Paula Hancocks, CNN, Seoul.
GORANI: Well, there is certainly a lot to talk about around the world in terms of news stories that affect humans. But in this case, it is a story
that affected a gorilla that seems to be captivating the world. Everyone has an opinion.
[15:25:01]So has this video showing that rare gorilla dragging a young boy around after he fell into his enclosure. Now as you all know by now, the
gorilla was later shot and killed and necropsy has been performed on the gorilla and doctors were able to freeze his genetic material.
Now the Cincinnati Police Department is investigating the incident to see if there were possible criminal charges that could be brought. Believe it
or not, even Donald Trump has weighed in on this one.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
TRUMP: I think it is a very tough call. It was amazing because there were moments with the gorilla the way he held that child, it was almost like a
mother holding a baby. Looked so beautiful and calm. And there were moments where it looked pretty dangerous. I don't think they had a choice.
I mean, probably they didn't have a choice.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
GORANI: There you have it. Now families in Kenya are demanding answers. What the Kenyan government is not saying about a terrorist attack on its
forces in January. It is a CNN exclusive just ahead.
Also, sun, sand and that spectacular skyline. Rio should be the perfect city to host the Olympic Games. But the clock is ticking and the problems
keep cropping up. Could this year's games be cursed? We'll be right back.
GORANI: A look at our top stories. The U.S. State Department has issued a strong warning to its citizens over the possibility of terrorist attacks in
Europe this summer.
The guidance mentions major events on the continent saying targets could include tourist sites, restaurants and commercial centers, but without any
precise mention of any one event.
Thousands of civilians have fled a growing battle in Iraq, but those trapped inside the city of Falluja could be facing a huge humanitarian
Iraqi forces are working to drive ISIS from the city and the U.N. says there are reports that ISIS is using families as human shields.
Civilians became the target in overnight air strikes in Syria, in Idlib. The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights says Russia carried out the
strikes, one made impact near a hospital, 23 people were killed. Seven of the people who were killed were women and children.
Also, if you travel around, especially to this part of the world, you should know the British pound is taking a hit today because two polls are
suggesting that the "leave" campaign is edging in front ahead of next month's E.U. referendum.
Both telephone and internet polls from the ICM for the "Guardian" newspaper showed that the "leave" campaign is slightly ahead. Britain as I mentioned
goes to the polls on June 23rd.
[15:30:08] Well, after month of (inaudible) we are now learning more about an al-Shabaab attack on Kenya's military that happened in January. Kenya's
government, wasn't too enough about the whole thing, they said, very little about the assault that took place in Somalia. But the heavy tool it took
is now becoming a whole lot clearer. Robyn Kriel has this exclusive report.
(BEGIN VIDEO TAPE)
ROBYN KRIEL, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: The (photos sees at home) told his family, he was brave. But in his personal life, James Saitoti
Kuronoi didn't like conflict.
JACKQUELINE NASIEKO KURONOI, SOLDIER'S SISTER: He was always duty. He had a permanent mild (ph).
KRIEL: His job was to drive tank south of the El Adde Base in Southern Somalia. His picture showed what he called his new home.
KURONOI: I don't know. Even the family, whoever, will feel that he's gone.
KRIEL: On January 15th, Kuronoi camp was attacked by al-Shabaab militants. His family didn't hear from him again.
Kenya's Defense Force brought more caskets home with full military honors but Kuronoi was not among them. The Somali government says, there were an
estimated 200 Kenyan soldiers at the base the day of the attack. But the Kenyan government has released no details of what happened. No official
But four months after the attack, a picture is emerging of heavy losses as body after body is quietly released for burials across the country. Kenyan
media has documented at least 30 funerals.
The terror group al-Shabaab posted this propaganda video showing the attack, and the brutal way wounded and surrendering Kenyan soldiers were
simply shot dead. Al-Shabaab claims more than 100 Kenyan soldiers were killed, at least 50 Kenyan casualties can be counted in the video.
But the death toll maybe even higher than that claim by al-Shabaab. Two officials familiar with the recovery operation has told CNN that the Kenyan
death toll from that day is at least 141, making this attack the bloodiest defeat for the Kenyan military state independence.
The Kenya Defense Force would not respond to repeated CNN request for comment. One blogger who posted photos and information about the El Adde
attack was arrested under a rarely enforce national security law. But was later release by the Kenyan government without charge.
PETER PHAM, DIRECTOR, ATLANTIC COUNCIL'S AFRICA CENTER: Although they cite national security reasons, in fact what they end up doing is creating an
opportunity for Shabaab, in many cases too propagandized their victories, perhaps exaggerate them, so there's no way of countering that narrative
because there is no real narrative coming from the government.
KRIEL: After seven DNA test, James Saitoti Kuronoi was finally identified. A tree like this one will be planted near his grave site. But James'
sister still has many questions.
KURONOI: We would like to know who are these people, be dead together or how many (inaudible). These are questions, it will live in the mind
forever because even if you go (inaudible) there is how many are they rescued, how many are being charged. You know, you don't know.
KRIEL: For now, the story of the Kenyan soldiers who fought and lead that day is being told not by the country they died serving, but only by the
families of the dead, and the terrorist group they just want to fight.
Robyn Kriel, CNN, Narok, Kenya.
(END VIDEO TAPE)
GORANI: Back to U.S. politics now. Bernie Sanders is hard at work in California. He has 475 pledged delegates to try to woo in that state.
It's a rich prize in the Democratic primary. Even though Hillary Clinton's lead is technical insurmountable, a win by Sander here would be a step back
for her campaign. But the campaign trail had a bump in it. Secret service agents have to rush into action when animal rights activist tried to storm
the stage at a Bernie Sanders' event.
As Joe Johns reports, it's not the first disruption of this election season.
(BEGIN VIDEO TAPE)
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You step away right there, right there.
JOE JOHNS, CNN SENIOR WASHINGTON CORRESPONDENT: Dramatic moments at a Bernie Sanders rally in down town Oakland, California. Secret service
agents jumping on stage pulling the presidential candidate away from the microphone.
[15:35:00] At least four protesters lift over barricade, yelling and attempting to rush to podium, secret service detail quickly apprehending
the individuals. One of the protesters appeared to be hit by a security member with baton, while another was carried out of the venue by his arms
Grassroots group and animal activist direct action everywhere taking responsibility for disrupting the event. This latest skirmish on the 2016
campaign trail only one of several incidents this year causing the secret service to jump on stage.
Commotion breaking out at the Trump rally in Ohio in March when a protester tried to rush at the stage.
DONALD TRUMP, (R) PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: I was ready. I don't know if I would have done well, but I wouldn't have been out there fighting folks.
JOHNS: And in April, Trump's motorcade stopping along a highway in California after protesters block the hotel entrance where a GOP convention
was being held, forcing the Republican candidate to exit his vehicle and cross the freeway on foot.
UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKERS: Bernie, Bernie, Bernie, Bernie.
JOHNS: Sanders uninjured and seemingly on pace by this incident.
BERNIE SANDERS, (D) PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: We don't get intimated easily.
JOHNS: The Senator cheering on the Golden State Warriors later in the night, continuing the Barn Storm California.
SANDERS: Does this guaranty me the California primary?
JOHNS: Before June 7th, delegate-rich primary in the state, his attempt to rest the Democratic nomination from Hillary Clinton.
(END VIDEO TAPE)
GORANI: All right. Well, you can get a look at the State of the Race with Kate Bolduan, week nights at 7:30 in London, right before this program, and
Tuesday to -- as I mentioned, Tuesday to Friday at 2:30 p.m. in Hong Kong, right here on CNN giving you a few options on the time zones front.
This is the World Right Now as battle for Fallujah intensifies concern for civilians in that city gross. I'll be speaking to an expert about the
situation in Fallujah in just a few minutes. And the world of eSports is huge in South Korea, turning its best players into celebrity. We'll be
GORANI: Well, for people living in Fallujah, certainly, the individuals there are no stranger to fighting. It's been going on for years, the
misery that they've endured.
During the beginning of the Iraq War, U.S. forces swept Fallujah hunting jihadist, insurgence at that time, door to door in this cities first major
battle. The second battle is considered the bloodiest of the entire Iraq War. U.S., Iraqi and British forces suffered about a hundred casualties
and they killed roughly 2,000 they say insurgence at that time. The U.S. declared Fallujah liberated after the fighting but the city was left in
10 years later in 2014, the city fell again, this time to ISIS. It was the first Iraqi city to fall to the terrorist group. Now, we know they hold
Mosul in Iraq as well as other parts, Raqqa and Syria.
[15:40:04] Now, Iraqi forces are closing in to recapture. Fallujah activist say, ISIS is threatening residents to stay in Fallujah by using
them as human shields, going door to door terrorizing inhabitant there.
I'm joined in the studio now by Jill Sargent Russell, a Military Historian from King's College in London. And she's here in the studio with us.
So Fallujah has been as we've heard there in that timeline, really a battle ground for years, and years, and years. Is there the sense now that Iraqi
Security Forces are going to be able to rude out ISIS terrorist from that part of Iraq.
JILL SARGENT RUSSELL, KING'S COLLEGE, LONDON: Well, if I may, you've mentioned the first two battles for Fallujah, there was another one in 2007
and that one maybe instructive here, al-Qaeda in Iraq had become very popular there. The insurgency was going.
Al-Qaeda in Iraq went too far, the locals turned against them and the tag was turn very rapidly and very quickly.
GORANI: It was called the "Awakening" with General David Petraeus.
RUSSELL: It's a part of the "Awakening" and -- but it was very specific in Fallujah and the sort of information they started giving on al-Qaeda in
Iraq was remarkable.
And I think here, again, in this battle, the Iraqi security forces can certainly take on ISIS militarily. They have the capabilities and with the
task force in support in delivering air coverage. They certainly have the capabilities. And what it'll be, you know, the defining point is where the
GORANI: Right. But as the American are helping as well with air strike. So the question is, once you do liberate or once you do defeat ISIS
militant inside the city. What do you then because this is highly sectarian of course? It's laced with all this tension from going years
RUSSELL: Well, that's the important second battle, let's call it, for Fallujah, which is making it sort of the deliberation that people like to
think of getting on with issues of reconstruction, redevelopment. The more that it scene that the locals and the civilians in Fallujah are being held,
the more that that will come to play in the campaigns down the line.
GORANI: Yeah. But for that, you need a transparent government and accountable government, and government that includes all of its citizens,
not just Shiite. And in this particular, case there are Shiite Militia backed by Iran, that cannot be something that the residents of Fallujah
will welcome with open arms.
RUSSELL: It depends on how they behave, I think. I think there is the opportunity say for these Militias to extend an open hand and I think it
would be accepted. It will depend as well on how much everybody around Fallujah allows that to happen. We're not going to fix -- were the
problems in Baghdad aren't going to be fixed overnight, but there is assistance that can be given in the short term to help Fallujah get back on
its feet, and the more that that happens, the better.
GORANI: Because when you say, I mean, you are saying in the beginning that it's -- infuses (ph) though there's not much question that the Iraqi
Security Forces would have the ability at least to defeat ISIS inside of Fallujah.
But we saw how they acted in 2014, it was a humiliation for the Iraqi aren't at that time in Mosul and now they applied this. What has changed,
do you think?
RUSSELL: Well, I mean, in those cases ISIS had the distinct advantage of surprise. They were working exactly to their tactics. There are form of
sort of jihadist blitzkrieg. In this case, the Iraqi Security Forces are the ones on the attack. They are the ones driving the action, and they are
the ones with I think the greater capabilities. And ISIS is having to respond and/or in many cases, in the things that are happening around them,
the way that they are treating their own fighters, the use of human shields. All of these things suggest that they are the ones ...
GORANI: Let's not forget the civilians, exactly, because the civilians are desperate civilian who for years have suffered so much and are now on top
of everything else being targeted door to door. We're hearing death squads going in Fallujah, forcing people to fight of be killed. I mean, it's just
a nightmare situation there.
RUSSELL: Of course, it is and I think those are the kind of things we have to talk about a lot more. Whenever anybody says that ISIS has some sort of
a force for Islamic world for the Muslim community, that lie has to be proven with these things everyday.
It is also a measure of their desperation. It is -- finally, the difficult thing in war that civilians are often caught in the middle. Probably the
best way to fix that is to end things as quickly as possible.
GORANI: Well, we hope so for the sake of the people there. But we've been saying that for years. It's hard to be optimistic unfortunately.
Jill Sergeant Russell, a military historian at King's College, London. Thanks very much for joining us here, we appreciate it.
RUSSELL: Thank you.
[15:45:00] GORANI: One of Spain's most famous athletes says he's thinking about not participating in the Summer Olympics because he's afraid of the
Basketball player Paul Gasol has won the NBA Title twice and now plays for the Chicago Bulls. Of course, Zika is not the only issue making headlines
before the games. Ivan Watson is in Rio de Janeiro and has this report.
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IVAN WATSON, CNN CORRESPONDENT: It's hard not to be seduced by Rio de Janeiro, this spectacular city soon to be the host of the 2016 Summer
Olympics. Two months before the start of the games, construction crews are putting in the final touches at the Olympic venues.
GUSTAVO NASCIMENTO, HEAD OF THE OLYMPIC VENUE MANAGEMENT: Everything is going to be ready on time. We're going to deliver the park, fully
commissioned on the 24th of July.
WATSON: But despite Rio's beauty, the city and Brazil as a whole are facing some pretty daunting challenges, a whole series of unexpected set
backs leading some to wonder, are Rio's Olympics somehow cursed.
Just days ago, a warning from more than 100 international doctors, calling for the games to be postponed or move because the mosquito-born Zika virus
could threatened and expected half a million foreign visitors. That hue rejected by the World Health Organization which does advice pregnant women
to avoid the Olympics entirely, because of the risk of severe deformities to unborn children.
And then, there's the political and economic crisis. Turmoil after Congress suspended Brazil's elected president in an impeachment process
last month, and high level corruption scandals. During the worst economic recession in generations which has left more than 10 million Brazilians
The economic hardship aggravating Rio's endemic problems with violent crime, daily gun battles between police and drug gangs in the cities
impoverished favelas as well as a surge in robberies. This month, members of the Spanish Olympic sailing team mugged at gun point.
FERNANDO ECHAVANI, SPANISH OLYMPIC SAILOR: We've just turn wrong to see what was happening. I was still at distance at least.
WATSON: Olympic sailors also worried about Rio's notoriously polluted bay, a dumping ground for much of the city's raw sewage.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We don't want to swim in it.
WATSON: Rio's mayor warns, this isn't a first world city.
EDUARDO PAES, RIO DE JANEIRO MAYOR: Don't come here expecting that everything will be, you know, perfect. We live in a country that has
economic crisis, a country with lots of inequality, with all the problems that we've seen concerning corruption, bribes. But the city will be much
better than it was, then we got the games.
WATSON: But even one of the mayors' new infrastructure projects is not a deadly failure. This brand new spectacular cliff side bike path was
supposed to be a showcase project for the Olympics. Instead, it became a tragic setback when the waves took out part of the trail killing two people
In the turbulent run up to the Olympics, a virtual storm of bad news that leaves you wondering, what could possibly happen next. Ivan Watson , CNN,
Rio de Janeiro.
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GORANI: Coming up, she has the largest Twitter following in the world but megastar status fill does not protect Katy Perry from hackers.
[15:50:24] GORANI: Well, at filled stadium with thousands of fans, the players can become millionaires but this is not football, this is eSports,
where instead of your feet and your hands, you use a computer and a mouse, how exciting.
Paula Hancocks has more.
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PAULA HANCOCKS, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Mobs (ph) at the airport, a sporting legend meets his fans.
This is Faker, a 20-year-old world champion known as the God of League of Legends, one of the most popular video games around the world.
"I've never dreamed of becoming a pro gamer", he tells me, "So I never imagine becoming world's champion but I do like the attention and respect I
get from so many people."
And he certainly does get attention. In South Korea, he is a super star. Tickets to watch him play live (inaudible) fans excited just to get close
to the legend himself.
"I like Faker because he makes so many surprising moves", said this man.
This woman says, "I like it sometimes tough and reckless behavior during the game."
You know, one of the things that strikes me as soon as I walk in here was, there's awful a lot of women in the audience. Video gaming here in South
Korea was not just for the men, but these people here in the audience said they are lucky ones. They are able to see this in person. I'm told that
as soon as they take it slow online, on sale, they slide (ph) within a matter of units.
For those not lucky enough to be here in person, full coverage plus commentary, Korean or English is available at the touch of a button.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He really wants to kill Bang (ph), he's going for it.
HANCOCKS: Two cable channels are dedicated entirely to eSports. One of them available in 17 countries and that's not even taken into account, the
live stream channels online. One place you would not expect the video game champions to be throwing the first pitch to the baseball game. Not his
natural habitat but it does show how big a celebrity (inaudible), but what about question as to whether eSports is a real sport.
"I think online games are very similar to sports", said Faker, "In the way that people enjoy it together. I know a competitions, winning is similar
to winning a sport game here, except as the feeling in the brain instead of something of physical like soccer."
In his debut just three years ago, Faker has played with SK Telecom rejecting lucrative offers from Chinese teams and enjoying many nicknames,
not only God, Lionel Messi or Michael Jordan of his game.
Paul Handcocks, CNN, Seoul.
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GORANI: Well, talk about the e-world, top singer Katy Petty has the largest Twitter following on the planet, more than -- and this is just a
mind-boggling number, I'll be honest with you. Every time I see something like this and I say to myself, this many people are following women, but
they just can't get over it.
It's more than a population of France or the United Kingdom. More than 89 million people follow Katy Perry on social media. But apparently, a hacker
was tracking the star as well, and her account was hijacked on Monday.
Our CNNMoney Business Correspondent Samuel Burke joins me now from New York to explain.
First, let's talk a little bit about how this happened, how could Katy Perry, I'm sure she changes her password everyday or whatever, how did this
happen to her?
SAMUEL BURKE, CNNMONEY BUSINESS CORRESPONDENT: Yeah. It's just amazing that she has more followers than you and I combined, Hala, and the tweets
that were sent out were race ...
GORANI: Times 10,000.
BURKE: There we go, racist, homophobic, bizarre, some of this tweet. And it just answer to a long list of people who've been act including President
Obama, Justin Bieber, their Twitter accounts, Britney Spears, Taylor Swift, U.S. Central Command. And it's hard to imagine that it was just somehow
someone entering passwords over and over again because Twitter will block somebody from doing that and lock an account after a few a attempts.
Twitter has the following to say about security on their website saying, "We're working to improve our response to security threats, but user
account and computers can sometimes become compromise by fishing, hacks or viruses. So, Hala, I guess you'll be adding a lower case and upper case, a
symbol and a number to her password.
GORANI: And what about Twitter? I mean, is this an embarrassment? Is it fair to say this is an embarrassment for Twitter that if they can't protect
the account of Katy Perry, whose account can they protect?
[15:54:59] BURKE: Well, here's what I imagine. I talk to a couple of tech experts today and they've say undoubtedly what happened is that another
account of hers was compromised, probably not Twitter which actually has some pretty good security measures in place. And then they use that
password to get into her Twitter account which is why you should not use the same password for every account.
I know people hate it when people like me get on television and say that but that's the truth. Because one get tapped and then it's your bank
account, then it's your Twitter account with 89 million followers. You should do what I do. You should have two-factor authentication on
something like this. That means I have to enter my password and then Twitter sent a code to my phone.
So even if I said my password right now, on CNN, worldwide, you would not be able to get into my account because of the two-factor authentication. I
also have at my cellphone, get that text message code to sign on, do use two-factor authentication.
GORANI: I do. Yes, yes, absolutely. Now, how many times do you think Katy Perry's tweet which read, "Ready to (inaudible) the day was favorited
and retwitted. Just give me a wild guess."
BURKE: Well, 89 million followers I'll say 10,000 times.
GORANI: Not watching more than 20,000. It doesn't matter what she tweets. It's an automatic 20,000.
All right, Samuel Burke thanks ...
BURKE: And then that say that human affairs ...
GORANI: All right, various social media, the very definition of it. Thanks very much, Samuel we'll see you soon. And by the way, you can check
me out on Facebook with my 89 million followers there, facebook.com/halagoraniCNN.
That's going to do it for me, I'm Hala Gorani, Tuesday with u. Quest Means Business is next.