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BROOKE BALDWIN, CNN ANCHOR: All right, Wolf, thank you so much. Hi, everyone. I'm Brooke Baldwin. Thank you so much again for being with me on this Monday.

Just as Democrat Hillary Clinton is expected to make history as the first female nominee, Donald Trump seems to be undoing the party unity he has built since becoming the presumptive Republican nominee. Clinton is expected to earn the needed delegates for the Democratic nomination by the time polls close in California. One of six states voting tomorrow. Check the map. See it for yourself.

And as the only man in his race, Trump will, no doubt, win his primaries there, but he is losing ground in his own party after sticking to the belief that the judge overseeing the lawsuit against Trump University is biased because the judge has Mexican parents.

My colleague Jake Tapper pressed Mr. Trump more than 20 times on this very issue on Sunday's "State Of The Union."

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JAKE TAPPER, CNN ANCHOR, "STATE OF THE UNION": You know -

DONALD TRUMP (R), PRESUMPTIVE PRESIDENTIAL NOMINEE: If he were giving me fair rulings, I wouldn't be talking to you this way. He's giving me horrible rulings.

TAPPER: But I don't care if you criticize him. That's fine. You can criticize every decision. What I'm saying is, if you invoke his race as a reason why he can't do his job -

TRUMP: I think that's why he's doing it.

TAPPER: But you think that's -

TRUMP: I think that's why he's doing it. He's proud of his heritage. I - I respect him for that.

TAPPER: But you're saying he can't do his job because of that.

TRUMP: Look, he's proud of his heritage. OK. I'm building a wall. You know, I think I'm going to do very well with the Spanish.

TAPPER: He's a legal citizen.

TRUMP: You know why I'm going to do well with Hispanics? Because I'm going to bring back jobs. And they're going to get jobs right now. They're going to get jobs. I think I'm going to do very well with Hispanics. But we're building a wall. He's a Mexican. We're building a wall between here and Mexico.

TAPPER: If you are saying he can't do his job because of his race, is that not the definition of racism?

TRUMP: I don't think so at all.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

BALDWIN: We'll talk to Tapper about that moment next hour, by the way.

Now, multiple Republican leaders who are backing Trump, they are condemning these comments, which are still continuing despite the fact that Trump no longer has any Republican competition. Newt Gingrich, one of Trump's most vocal supporters, said it was one of Trump's worst mistakes ever.

Plus, Trump took it to a whole new level when he then added another layer here when asked about whether or not a Muslim judge would be biased. And so with all of this happening over the course of this weekend, let's go to senior White House correspondent Jim Acosta live for us in New York there outside of Trump Tower.

Jim Acosta, with all of these prominent Republican leaders repudiating the comments, what about cha-ching, the donors too? How does that impact money coming in?

JIM ACOSTA, CNN SENIOR WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT: Yes, the donors are very uncomfortable with Donald Trump's comments about Judge Gonzalo Curiel. And - and, you know what, Brooke, there is some unity inside the Republican Party right now. They're all basically unified in condemning Donald Trump's remarks about this judge. You not only have Newt Gingrich and Bob Corker who are said to be on Donald Trump's list of potential vice president running mates, you have the Senate minority - excuse me, the Senate majority leader, Mitch McConnell, saying he disagrees with those comments as well.

And I've talked to people inside the Trump campaign. There's - there's a bit of a divide inside the Trump campaign over this, Brooke. I talked to a Trump adviser over the weekend who said that this is no reason to celebrate when it comes to Donald Trump's comments on Judge Curiel, and yet I talked to another adviser earlier this morning who said, you know what, Donald Trump is saying some of the things that people are thinking out there in the Republican Party and so no apologies there. And apparently no apologies at this point from Donald Trump either.

BALDWIN: Well, Jim, you also were able to get in touch with Judge Curiel's brother, asked him his thoughts on all of this and on Donald Trump. What did he say?

ACOSTA: It was a very interesting conversation, Brooke. I talked to Raul Curiel, who grew up, was born and raised in northwest Indiana, outside of Chicago, along with Gonzalo Curiel. Their parents are Mexican immigrants. And, you know, they worked very hard to get to where they are today. Raul Curiel said that his brother, the judge, worked at a BP refinery to help put himself through college. And so, you know, they really had to scrape things together in order to put together the life that they have right now.

But he said, you know what, Donald Trump is not a racist. He believes he - he just believes that Donald Trump is ignorant. And we can put this quote up on screen. This is from Raul Curiel, the brother of this judge. "I don't think he is strictly an outright racist like some of your Ku Klux Klan. Those kinds of people really are racist. They have no redeeming qualities. Trump, I don't believe, is that caliber of person, but he is very, very uninformed."

[14:05:01] And that was basically the take from the judge's brother who throughout this conversation, Brooke, he said that he's talked to his brother since all of this blew up. That his brother really didn't have a whole lot to say except that he wanted to thank his brother for sticking up for him. And Raul Curiel said this judge is not going to be making any comments on this because of his position as a judge -

BALDWIN: Right.

ACOSTA: But that they don't take really any of this seriously. What they worry about, Brooke, is how this is affecting other Hispanics around the country, Brooke.

BALDWIN: Absolutely. Jim Acosta, thank you so much. Have to think about the Latino vote come this fall.

ACOSTA: You're welcome.

BALDWIN: Listen, not all Republicans are condemning Trump. And the first Latino Attorney General, Alberto Gonzalez, served under George W. Bush, he was on CNN not too long ago, says he does not support Trump's assertion that the judge should recuse himself, as what Trump is pushing for lately, but Gonzalez does say Trump does have a right to question the judge's impartiality. Here he was.

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ALBERTO GONZALEZ, FORMER ATTORNEY GENERAL: I didn't write what I wrote in support of his comments. I didn't write what I wrote in support of the notion that the judge to be recused solely on his race. What - I wrote to say that Donald Trump, like every litigant in the United States, has a right to a fair trial before an impartial judge. And if there are any questions relating to that impartiality, even the appearance of impropriety is enough to cause a judge to recuse himself, then there should be a recusal, because this is not about the judge.

The fact that Donald Trump has attacked the Hispanic judge to me makes me angry because I've worked very hard with the Hispanic organizations to get good, qualified Hispanics on our courts. And so it makes me angry, some of these comments, which are - I think are wrong and inappropriate. But again, this is not about the judge. This is about the - our judicial system and the right of every American citizen to get a fair trial before an impartial judge.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

BALDWIN: Donald Trump responded this morning to Newt Gingrich's comments regarding the Trump University judge, saying it was one, quote, "inexcusable and one of the worst mistakes Trump has made." Here is Mr. Trump calling in to Fox this morning, responding.

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DONALD TRUMP (R), PRESUMPTIVE PRESIDENTIAL NOMINEE: I saw Newt. I was surprised at Newt. I thought it was inappropriate what he said. All I'm trying to do is figure out why I'm being treated so unfairly by a judge.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

BALDWIN: All right. Let's bring in Republican strategist Lisa Boothe, who is also a contributor to "The Washington Examiner," CNN's senior legal analyst Jeffrey Toobin, and New York city Councilman Joe Borelli, who co-chairs Trump's campaign here in New York.

Welcome, welcome, to all of you.

Joe Borelli, I have my sights set on you just out of the gate.

JOSEPH BORELLI, CO-CHAIRMAN, DONALD TRUMP NY CAMPAIGN: Of course.

BALDWIN: Good to see you again.

BORELLI: You, too.

BALDWIN: Just - I'm going to steal Jim Acosta's line that, yes, there is now in the Republican Party, party unity. Party unity against your guy, against Donald Trump, condemning what he's been saying over and over again about Judge Curiel. I mean Trump is on an island.

BORELLI: Right. Look, and you have to lump me into the category of people who want to disavow what Trump said and fundamentally I think it's wrong.

BALDWIN: You do?

BORELLI: Yes. No, I fundamentally think it's wrong. I really do.

That said, if Donald Trump believes the judge is impartial, he has the right to do it. A more appropriate venue might have been through the court system or a more appropriate, you know, issues might have been raised about who the judge appointed to serve the plaintiffs. Someone tied to the Clintons involving the whole Clinton speaking scandal. Here in New York we have an attorney general bringing an action who's part of the Hillary Clinton leadership team. Those are fair things to criticize the impartiality of the judge on and other judges.

Blaming it on his heritage was probably not the right way to go.

BALDWIN: Just in - let me just stay with you for a second. To read the quote of Jim Acosta's chat with Curiel's brother saying, he's not an outright racist, not quite like KKK level racist. Still, to hear that coming from a prominent Latino judge's brother is something that voters are listening to.

BORELLI: Sure. You know, look, I don't think Donald Trump is a racist by any standards. I think he's got a lifetime of, you know, relatives, friends, business associates, employers - or, rather, employees that he's dealt with over the years that could attest to the fact that he is not racist. I think he made a stupid comment.

BALDWIN: OK.

BORELLI: I think he would have been better served by kind of abandoning it and moving on. This would have been a great week for Trump. Paul Ryan's endorsement. The damning IG inspector report. These are the things that we want to talk about on the Sunday morning talk shows, not -

BALDWIN: That aren't being talked about because of this.

BORELLI: Not defending these comments, right.

BALDWIN: That's an excellent point. I want to loop back to you.

But, Lisa, to you on - I mean it was huge, Paul Ryan's endorsement, but then you hear all of these potential VP contenders, Bob Corker, Newt Gingrich, Mitch McConnell over the weekend too repudiating all of this. Is there such a thing as an un-endorsement?

LISA BOOTHE, REPUBLICAN STRATEGIST: Well, no, I think just because they support Donald Trump doesn't mean they can't point out when he makes a dumb move or he makes a misstep, and that's exactly what this is. And I think a lot of people agree - a lot of Republicans agree with what Speaker Gingrich and Speaker Paul Ryan said, but they also agree with the attorney general - former Attorney General Gonzalez said in mentioning the impartiality. And, look, there are things to point to, to draw some concerns about the judge. And you look at just the fact of what Gonzalez pointed out in his column about the - the law firm that the judge appointed to the plaintiff that is a big campaign donor to Hillary Clinton.

[14:10:03] You're also looking at the fact that the judge released documents and then redacted the information, as well. And those documents and the information that he put out there, Hillary Clinton has been using as a line of attack against Donald Trump. So I think those are fair things - or the fact that he's an Obama appointee. So I think those things are fair to point out, that he made the mistake of taking it to a level he should not have.

BALDWIN: All things, though - sure, (INAUDIBLE) we haven't heard him pointing those out.

Looking to you now -

JEFFREY TOOBIN, CNN SENIOR LEGAL ANALYST: Yes, ma'am.

BALDWIN: Just also hearing the former AG's comments and saying essentially that it's not about the judge, it's about the judicial system. He has a right to question the judge. Do you agree with Mr. Gonzalez?

TOOBIN: No, I think it's absolutely ridiculous what he said.

BALDWIN: You do?

TOOBIN: I mean the - of course everyone has the right to an opinion, but the key point here is that Donald Trump said he - Judge Curiel is biased because he is of Mexican descent. All these other issues, these are people are bringing in to try to justify after the fact what Donald Trump said. But the question is, what does it say about Donald Trump that he thinks the mere fact that the judge is of Mexican ancestry means he is biased and shouldn't sit on the case? It is completely without precedent in American legal history as far as I'm aware that anyone would be disqualified from being a judge in a case because of their ethnic background or gender or race and I think you can tell by the fact that there is universal condemnation of his position that it's indefensible.

BALDWIN: How long had he been presiding over this case before Donald Trump decided to talk about this?

TOOBIN: I believe it's well over a year.

BALDWIN: It was - yes, it's months and months and months.

TOOBIN: Yes, I mean - yes. And, remember, you know, this is a country where women judges silt on cases involving gender discrimination.

BALDWIN: Sure.

TOOBIN: African-American judges hear cases about racial discrimination. It is a bedrock principle that the mere membership in a group does not make you a biased judge. I mean that's just been true for hundreds of years.

BALDWIN: So then, Joe, to your point and to Lisa's point, why stick to this? And then he took it a step further yesterday on CBS when asked about, would a Muslim judge be OK? And he said absolutely not as well, just throwing more fuel onto the fire and alienating a whole other group of - of voters come November. Why not bring up - there is plenty - I mean Hillary Clinton -

BORELLI: But - but -

BALDWIN: The jobs report wasn't great on Friday. The IG. I mean there's so much that he could point to and yet this is what we're talking about.

BORELLI: I wish I had an answer to go back to this law firm. This law firm that the judge appointed is part and parcel to one of the bigger Hillary Clinton scandals. You could have used the (INAUDIBLE).

TOOBIN: I mean that - first of all, that is not even true.

BORELLI: They didn't pay her to have speak - they didn't pay her speaking fees?

TOOBIN: (INAUDIBLE) -

BORELLI: You're saying they didn't pay her any speaking fees?

TOOBIN: They paid her when she wasn't a presidential candidate and - well -

BORELLI: But what I'm saying is Donald Trump could have - could have spoken about that (INAUDIBLE).

TOOBIN: He - and the judge had no way of knowing that.

BORELLI: But Donald Trump could have been speaking about that, right, and tying it to a Hillary Clinton scandal, rather than what he did - rather than what he did with the judge.

TOOBIN: Yes, and he could have talked about - he could have talked about all sorts of things. But the idea that the judge - the judge had no way of knowing that this law firm, which, by the way, is expert in what they were hired in. So it wasn't like he plucked them out of absurdity. They are very commonly picked for these lead council class actions. The fact that what they may have done in the past -

BORELLI: (INAUDIBLE).

BOOTHE: But I do think there are - there are - but there are particular sensitivities given this election cycle. I mean the judge himself has moved the hearing to after the election because of he said the circus of the political arena, as well. So I think it's fair to draw some assumptions or at least to draw some concerns politically based such as the fact that the campaign has donated -

TOOBIN: He's did Donald Trump a favor.

BOOTHE: Well, Donald Trump has at least asserted -

TOOBIN: Donald Trump wanted it after the election.

BOOTHE: Well, he - well, he at least asserted that he wanted it to actually be conducted prior to get it out of the way to focus on the election. If that's true or not, you know, to be determined, but that's at least something he's put out there.

BALDWIN: Do you think this - do you think this judge moves at all or sticks with it and continues on?

TOOBIN: I think he sticks with it. I mean this judge has done nothing wrong.

BALDWIN: Yes. Yes.

TOOBIN: This judge has handled this case completely by the book. And the idea that there's any - I mean, sure, Donald Trump is unhappy that he didn't throw the case out. Guess what, as any lawyer in America has lost case - has lost motions, has lost cases, they're upset, but you don't say the judge shouldn't sit on the case.

BALDWIN: OK. OK. OK.

BOOTHE: And there's also proper recourse that he should follow legally if he does believe that the judge is biased.

BALDWIN: Could have done it. Didn't do it. Hasn't done it. Lisa, and Joe, and Jeff, thank you so much.

BOOTHE: Thank you.

BALDWIN: To all of you.

Just a quick heads up to all of you here. Any moment now, Bernie Sanders is set to hold a news conference as we have some new CNN reporting that President Obama is expected to formally endorse Hillary Clinton as early as this week. But Sanders is vowing to battle it out all the way through the convention next month. We'll listen in for Senator Sanders coming up next from California ahead of the big primary there.

Also breaking moments ago, prosecutors announcing whether or not they will charge the mother whose three-year-old little boy fell into the zoo's enclosure, into this gorilla enclosure, where they had to shoot and kill the gorilla. That update coming up. You're watching CNN. I'm Brooke Baldwin.

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[14:17:22] BALDWIN: Here we go, Bernie Sanders speaking now in California. Let's listen in.

SEN. BERNIE SANDERS (D), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: Throughout the state of California. One of the things that I enjoyed very much is getting out to communities where other candidates often do not go. And those include some pretty small towns. And we have been just amazed at the kind of turnout that we have seen at these rallies, which have been attended in the last several weeks by over 215,000 Californians. And tonight, we're going to be holding the last rally of our California campaign here in San Francisco. We hope to have a -a good turnout there, as well. And let me repeat what I have said from day one here in California,

which I think most people agree with. If the turnout is high tomorrow, we will win. If the turnout is very high, I think we will win by big numbers. If the turnout is low, we will probably lose. So my - my request, obviously, to the people of California, to those people who are prepared to stand up and fight for real change in this country, is please come out and vote tomorrow. Let us see California have the highest voter turnout in the history of this state in terms of the Democratic primary.

The message of our campaign throughout California, in fact throughout the country, has been, I think, very consistent. It has been straightforward and I think it is the message that working people and the middle class want to hear. And that it is, just too late for establishment politics and establishment economics. We need real change in this country, not superficial change, but real change, which will end the trend in our country of moving toward an oligarchic form of society in which a handful of extraordinarily wealthy people control both the political and economic life of our nation.

Today, we have a corrupt campaign finance system in which billionaires and super PACs and large corporations are able to buy elections. We have a rigged economy in which study after study shows that almost all new income and wealth is going to the top 1 percent at a time when the middle class continues to shrink and shrink and shrink and when millions of our people are working longer hours for lower wages.

[14:20:16] We will not, in my view, be able to move forward as a nation and address these crisis unless, in fact, there is a political solution in which millions of people stand up, fight back, and demand - demand a government which represents all of us and not just wealthy campaign contributors.

We need a president and we need a government which will lead us into comprehensive immigration reform, where today we have 11 million people living in the shadows, living in fear because they are undocumented. We need real criminal justice reform so that we end the international embarrassment of having more people in jail than any other country on earth. We need to pass a Medicare for all health care system so that we do not remain the only major country on earth not to guarantee health care to all people.

If we do not address the planetary crisis of climate change, this world and our children and our grandchildren will pay the price which is why I believe we need bold action and why we need a tax on carbon. I've gone around California and I've learned something that I did not know, in that there were tens of thousands of families in this state living in homes where when they turn on the tap they cannot get drinkable water. That is a growing crisis in America and throughout the world, which is why in my view we have got to ban fracking today.

Lastly, it is clear to me that we have got to do everything that we can as a nation to make certain that Donald Trump does not become president of the United States. It is incomprehensible to me that in the year 2016, in the year 2016, given all that we have gone through as a nation for hundreds of years in trying to end racism, trying to end bigotry, trying to end discrimination, that we have a candidate of a major political party today who's essentially running his campaign on bigotry, on insulting Mexicans and Latinos, on insulting Muslims, on insulting African-Americans, on insulting women. And that is really quite mind boggling that this is taking place in the year 2016. And, clearly, it is imperative that we do everything that we can to see that that type of bigotry does not end up in the White House.

I am very proud that in virtually every national poll and every statewide poll done, including the recent polls here in California, we are defeating Trump and we are defeating him badly, just here in California, not to mention every other state. The last three polls had us beating Trump by 34 points, by 29 points, and by 23 points.

And the last point that I would make is that in all of these polls, and in virtually every poll done, nationally and in various states, we defeat Trump by larger numbers than does Secretary Clinton and, in some cases, she is actually losing to Trump when we are defeating him.

And the last point is, the - the recent insults to Judge Gonzalo Curiel are again beyond comprehension. This is the year 2016. To attack a judge because he is of Mexican heritage, a man born in the state of Indiana, this is a candidate of one of the large political, major political parties in this country. It is really quite incomprehensible. And I think the American people understand that.

In terms of where we are politically, I think I've said pretty much everything that I have to say a few days ago, but if there are any questions on any of the issues -

QUESTION: What do you say to women -

SANDERS: Excuse me.

QUESTION: What do you say to women -

SANDERS: Excuse me. Yes.

QUESTION: What do you say to women (INAUDIBLE) staying in the race?

SANDERS: Excuse me. Excuse me.

QUESTION: What do you say to women (INAUDIBLE) in the race.

SANDERS: Excuse me. Excuse me, ma'am.

QUESTION: I'm asking a question.

SANDERS: Well, other hands are up, as well.

QUESTION: (INAUDIBLE) -

SANDERS: Jeffrey, do you have a question?

QUESTION: I can go after you (ph).

QUESTION: What do you say to women who say that you stay in the race - what do you say to women who say that you staying in the race is sexist because you're just standing in the way of what could be the first female president?

SANDERS: Is that a serious question?

QUESTION: (INAUDIBLE) - yes, it is a serious question.

SANDERS: Any woman who is running for president, anyone who opposes your - your question implies that any woman, that any person, any woman who is running for president is by definition the best candidate. So any woman who runs. But to say that it is sexist -

[14:25:11] QUESTION: But (INAUDIBLE) also happens -

SANDERS: That any - so if Hillary Clinton runs for president, is your point that it is sexist for any man to oppose her?

QUESTION: No, my point is that if she has more delegates than you tomorrow, will you stay in the race -

SANDERS: Well, that's another point. And that is -

QUESTION: Will you stay in the race, is it sexist?

SANDERS: That is not - I don't think it is sexist. I think the issue is, first of all, our focus right now is running and winning right here in California. And the second point that I have made is that it is absolutely imperative that we defeat Donald Trump as president of the united - as a candidate for president of the United States. I believe I'm the stronger candidate.

Yes, Jeffrey.

QUESTION: Sir, you said that you must do everything you can to keep Donald Trump from winning the White House. Do you believe that include trying to thwart Hillary Clinton from becoming the party's nominee?

SANDERS: Try to thwart Hillary Clinton from becoming president? The issue is who is the better candidate to become president of the United States and to defeat Trump. Right now our focus is on winning the largest state in this country. Winning South Dakota, North Dakota, Montana and New Mexico and doing the best we can in New Jersey. New Jersey is going to be a difficult state for us. But our goal is to get as many delegates as we possibly can and to make the case to the super delegates that I believe the evidence is very strong that I am the strongest candidate.

QUESTION: At what point do you become a spoiler, though, senator?

SANDERS: Well, first of all, let us focus - I - I really hesitate, as - as you well know, Jeff, to be engaged in speculation. If I win tomorrow in California, and if we do very well, and I don't know that we will, we may, if we do well in the other states, if there are super delegates out there who say, you know what, looking at the objective evidence of polling, looking at the objective evidence of who has the strongest grassroots campaign and can bring out the larger voter turnout, which I think is crucial for November, if some of those super delegates begin to think that it is Bernie Sanders, I think that that is not an insignificant thing.

Yes.

QUESTION: (INAUDIBLE) the voters?

SANDERS: Yes. Chris. Chris.

QUESTION: Thank you, senator.

Back in 2008 you endorsed Barack Obama two days after he crossed the magic number with pledged and super delegates, before Hillary Clinton exited the race. Well before the convention. In fact, "The Burlington Free Press" quotes you as saying, again, two days after he crossed that threshold, "I will do everything I can to get him elected" and referred to him as the nominee. Why is it different in your case now?

SANDERS: Well, look, all we are saying - again, I think I made the point that I wanted to make just the other day. The issue right now is, we have an important primary tomorrow. We are working as hard as we can. As soon as I leave here and get some food in my stomach, I'm going to go out talking to a lot of people and doing everything that I can. We've got a good rally here in San Francisco.

So right now my focus is on winning the largest state in our country, which has 475 delegates, and in winning the South and North Dakota elections, in winning Montana, and in winning New Mexico, and doing the best we can in a tough race in New Jersey. So that is where I hope - yes, (INAUDIBLE)?

QUESTION: So based on what you just said to Jeff, though, I just want to clarify if I can, senator, you said, you know, you're going to look at how you do tomorrow and you're going to look at whether or not it looks like some super delegates are turning. If the numbers aren't with you tomorrow and if you don't get an indication, would you consider endorsing Hillary Clinton before the convention?

SANDERS: Well, that's something - first of all, you're asking me to speculate. So me - let me just talk to you after the primary here in California where we hope to win. Let's assess where we are after tomorrow before we make statements based on speculation.

Yes, Jason.

QUESTION: Senator, when you talk about that assessment period, regardless of what happens tomorrow, how do you - can you give us some insight into how you would like to spend the rest of the week, whether it's in Washington campaigning ahead of that contest, in Burlington, Vermont, thinking through your super delegate strategy? What are you planning for the rest of the week?

SANDERS: Right. We're going back. We'll be in L.A. tonight. We will - tomorrow night, I'm sorry, we'll be in L.A. tomorrow night. We'll be taking a plane back to Burlington and certainly we'll be campaigning in D.C. Yes, sir. Yes.

QUESTION: Senator, have you gotten any super delegates either to commit to switching to you or are you in private conversations with any? (INAUDIBLE) -

SANDERS: Yes, we are in private -

QUESTION: Seeing how you do in California -

SANDERS: We are in private conversations and we have seen a little bit of momentum. I think there are four super delegates in three or four states who have come over to us.

[14:30:03] QUESTION: Four who already have?

SANDERS: Four who are uncommitted.

QUESTION: And are there more who are talking (INAUDIBLE) -

SANDERS: Yes, I think - I think there's no question that we're going to get more. No question.

QUESTION: Senator -

SANDERS: Yes.