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HALA GORANI, CNN INTERNATIONAL ANCHOR: Hello, everyone. I'm Hala Gorani. We're live at CNN London. Thanks for being with us this hour. This is THE


Well, it's just four short days until Euro 2016 starts and there is a stark reminder of the potential security danger in that country. Police in

Ukraine arrested a French national they say was planning attacks to coincide with the tournament.

You can see the dramatic moment he was arrested here as Special Forces swooped in and dragged him out of that vehicle. Now, this happened in


This is what the authorities there say they found, an arsenal of weapons and explosives including rocket launchers and Kalashnikov rifles. The head

of Ukraine's state security surface laid out the intended targets. Listen.


VASILY GRITSAK, HEAD OF UKRAINE'S STATE SECURITY SERVICE (through translator): The targets of the attack were, though it sounds strange, it

is true and it was documented, a Muslim mosque, a Jewish synagogue, a French tax office, highway patrol points and many other places. As I said,

15 terrorist attacks were planned.


GORANI: Now, there are reports that this was a French nationalist planning on attacking these targets. We'll be live in Paris in a moment.

But first the Euro 2016 championship as I mentioned begins on Friday. France's president says a possible attack during the tournament is indeed a

real threat, but the country must not be intimidated, he says.

France's state of emergency which has been in place since November's terrorist attacks has been extended until the end of July. That in itself

is controversial. Jim Bittermann has more on the worries from Paris.


JIM BITTERMANN, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): For months now with more than 70 realistic mock terrorist attacks and security

drills the security forces here have been training to handle just about any threat to the Euro 2016 soccer championship.

But just in the past two weeks, French confidence in their security for the tournament took two major hits. This was the first one, a football match

at the Stad de France, the same stadium attacked by terrorists last November.

It was supposed to be real-time practice for the Euro Cup, but fans overran the security and smuggle in fireworks and incendiary devices, supposedly

not allowed.

Within hours, the interior minister called together everyone involved with security to see what happened. The head of an association which represents

most of the private security companies involved in Euro Cup safety says it wasn't their fault.

CLAUDE TARLET, FRENCH PRIVATE SECURITY AGENCIES UNION (through translator): The security units were confronted with filtering and frisking people on

the outside of the game premises. We never do that this way. Moreover, out of the 26 stadium doors, only four of them were opened. It was

impossible to properly ensure the security of the event.

BITTERMANN: And this was the second hit. A warning from the U.S. State Department advising Americans to avoid crowds like those during the Euro

Cup. The French response was that all possible security measures are being taken but are they?

The authorities here say 90,000 military police and private security personnel will make sure nothing happens during the tournament here, but

there are stadiums in ten different cities to protect.

And fan zones, which welcome millions of fans and training grounds and team hotels, which have to be protected for a month. The 90,000 number might

not seem so large in view of the task.

(on camera): In fact, more important than the security measures you can see are the ones you can't see. With the state of emergency extended by

two months the government continues to have sweeping powers to tap telephones, monitor internet conversations and put people under house

arrest. Officials here know well how much is riding on having a safe and successful tournament.

PIERRE HENRY BRANDET, FRENCH INTERIOR MINISTRY SPOKESMAN (through translator): This is the image of France, the French product, and if I may

say the French brand that will be in better shape if the Euro Cup is held in peace and tranquility.

[15:05:07]BITTERMANN (voice-over): In the end there won't be a really good answer on how secure the games are until they are over on July 10th.

There's been too much terrorism in France and neighboring Belgium in the past year and a half to say that the games will be totally secure, even

with all the good intentions. It's like the interior minister's spokesman put it, 100 percent precaution does not mean zero risk. Jim Bittermann,

CNN, Paris.


GORANI: All right. Well, as we continue to follow this story, of course, and Regis Le Sommier is the deputy editor-in-chief of "Paris Match" in

Paris. Can you hear me right this second?

Not yet. We are going to try to fix that in the next few seconds perhaps as I update you on what we know about this arrest. Again, this is

something that happened in Ukraine. French authorities are not confirming by any stretch that this is terrorism related.

However, when you see the cache of weapons that we showed in that video, there has to be some cause for concern. This was a French national, where

were those weapons headed, and did those targets that were outlined by authorities in Ukraine include some of these religious sites? We'll be

looking at that.

Meantime, and this is some of the video, by the way, that was released by Ukrainian authorities. It has to be said what happened in November 2015 is

still quite raw in France. These emergency powers are still in place and four days from now you have the Euro 2016 that is starting. We'll try to

reconnect with Regis Le Sommier with the latest on what's going on in France in just a moment.

But now let's take you to Iraq. Thousands of civilians trapped inside ISIS-controlled Falluja are facing a new danger as if that was not enough.

The threat that the militants will kill them simply if they try to escape.

Those who have managed to make it out say ISIS is targeting families who are trying to flee. CNN's Ben Wedeman has their harrowing stories from a

refugee camp near Baghdad.


BEN WEDEMAN, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): These children made it out of Falluja. What they saw though stays with them.

Around 350 families from villages around the ISIS stronghold have found safety if not much else in this dusty camp on Abu Ghraib on the outskirts

of Baghdad.

They managed to escape from ISIS barely. (Inaudible) knew the militants were rounding up civilians so he and his family hid in their home with the

door open.

When ISIS came, he says, they thought the house was empty. Other families didn't do that. ISIS took them away or killed them in their homes.

As the battle approached his village, (inaudible) recalls ISIS told everyone to move to the center of Falluja to act as human shields.

It was an order, he says. If you refused, they would shoot you on the spot. His family and three others managed to hide in the marshes for four

days until ISIS retreated.

(Inaudible), she's afraid to give her real name escaped the town of (inaudible) until this weekend under ISIS control. But her husband and two

sons, like most men and teenaged boys from the area around Falluja, are being held by Iraqi intelligence for interrogation under suspicion of ISIS


The 10-year-old Mohammed (inaudible) lies awake in a tent almost motionless. His chest and abdomen a mass of festering, bleeding third-

degree burns caused by an accidental kerosene fire before his family fled their home. He couldn't be treated during the fighting.

And here his father doesn't have the money to take him to hospital in Baghdad for the treatment Mohammed so desperately needs. The people here

have lost their homes, their livelihoods, all their worldly possessions, a fate all too common in this desolated land.

(on camera): United Nations high commissioner for refugees estimates that around 12,000 people have Falluja and the area around it, but when you look

at the big picture in Iraq that's just a drop in the bucket. The U.N. estimates that 3.3 million people have been displaced in Iraq.

(voice-over): Stuck in limbo, they wait for the battle to end, to someday go back to their homes or what's left of them.


GORANI: Well, Ben Wedeman joins me now from Baghdad, and more human desperation and misery in Iraq. It's been years of this, depending on what

part of the country you cover, but let's talk about Falluja and this planned assault.

You've spent time with some of these Iraqi Security Forces and their allies in the region. Now the assault proper is not happening yet.

[15:10:10]What's going on? Is there the manpower, the morale to do it?

WEDEMAN: Well, the question is, is there sort of the coordination to do it? Keep in mind, Hala, that this is not a single force that is involved

in this offensive. In theory, it's led by the Iraqi Army with the federal police, with the Anbar Province police forces and special anti-terrorist

squad as well.

But a large part of the fighting so far on the outskirts of Falluja has been done by the so-called (inaudible), which is the Shia-dominated

paramilitary units, the so-called (inaudible). And they also include some local Sunni fighters as well.

But the government is eager to keep them on the outside of the city. They don't want them to go in and do house-to-house fighting. The fear is that

there will be reprisal killings, lootings and otherwise misbehavior by those forces, taking revenge perhaps on the local Sunni population.

But without those forces it appears that they may not have enough in terms of manpower and firepower to do that very difficult house-to-house

fighting, which is inevitable in the case of Falluja -- Hala.

GORANI: All right, Ben Wedeman covering this important story from inside Iraq. Thanks very much. Let's get back to Paris and speak to Regis Le

Sommier, the deputy editor-in-chief. Regis, if you can hear me this time.

REGIS LE SOMMIER, DEPUTY EDITOR-IN-CHIEF, "PARIS MATCH": Yes, I can hear you very well, Hala.

GORANI: Great, good evening. Let me start by asking you this arrest in Ukraine. A French national who was arrested and Ukrainian authorities said

a huge cache of weapons was found, what are French authorities saying about this arrest?

SOMMIER: Well, right now people are a little puzzled by this arrest because we don't know who this guy is really. There's been some search.

We know he comes from a little village east of France.

He has no previous police record or, you know, no mal doing or anything special about him. He know he worked in a farm and then he said to his

neighbor that he was going to Ukraine, possibly to visit a farm.

That he visited a farm actually in the U.S. We know that from a neighbor and what -- what has been amazing is the amount of weaponry that was found

with him by the Ukrainian Security Service.

And, you know, the detail that they gave, you know, especially having him possibly targeting 15 different sites. What's a little puzzling is this

number of details for one man. It doesn't seem at this point that there was a cell behind him, you know.

So we're still waiting for more details to know in it was actually terrorism or arms smuggling. The guy could have gone to Ukraine in order

to get weapons and to sell them to other people.

That's at this point what we know and we're still waiting to know if another possibly an accomplish has been arrested and if he's linked to any

terror network known at this point.

GORANI: But, of course, the question, is as you mentioned, whether it's a terrorist cell, whether this man had plans to target mosques or synagogues

or distribute the weapons or sell the weapons.

This is all happening at an extremely tense time for France just a few days away from the beginning of Euro 2016 when all across France millions of

football fans are going to be congregating and gathering in large groups. How nervous is the country right now?

SOMMIER: Well, the country is very nervous. Not specially -- I mean, this particular incident, you know, this particular arrest of this guy with

weapons, you know, possibly targeting, aiming to target mosques or synagogues is adding to an already very, very tense situation here.

You know, police in Paris especially very worried about fan zones. There's one not far from where we are here on the (inaudible), the fans dome would

be next to the Eiffel Tower, and these are very, very hard to secure.

Because there will be a lot of people gathering in order to watch the games on big screens, and that's -- that's promised to be very, very difficult to


[15:15:04]And also what makes people nervous is that we know that terror cell that struck on November 13 in Paris and on March 22nd in Brussels had

the intension of targeting the Euro tournament.

We know that from little details that were given by some of the guys that actually -- Abdeslam (ph) and one or two of his accomplices, that there was

some major threat that they wanted to carry on the Euro.

We know that probably the arrests of Abdeslam (ph) triggered the terror attacks in Brussels, but maybe what they had in mind back then was to

target the Euro or something bigger.

They were aiming probably for something bigger. So the country is very nervous and we all know that it's going to be really hard to secure all

these soccer games all over the country.

GORANI: All right, Regis Le Sommier, as always, thanks so much for being with us. Thanks for being patient with our technical issues, the deputy

editor-in-chief of "Paris Match" magazine live in Paris.

A lot more to come this evening, even some Republicans who support Donald Trump say this time, this time, he's gone too far. We'll see why Trump's

attack on a judge has his own party concerned.

And still ahead saying farewell to a sporting legend. We'll have details on the funeral plans for Muhammad Ali. Stay with us.


GORANI: Well, she didn't expect to face this tough of a battle. Not many people did, but after a long, hard slog Hillary Clinton could now be just

hours away from making history.

She's expected to win enough delegates tomorrow to clinch the Democratic presidential nomination. Now, Clinton is on a last-minute campaign blitz

in California. Right now we're expecting her on this stage.

This is one of the stars of the TV show "Scandal." She's expected to come right after this ahead of the final Super Tuesday of the primary season.

She spoke to reporters just minutes ago saying she's not taking anything for granted.


HILLARY CLINTON (D), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: We are moving forward every day, and, you know, by tomorrow night I'll have more to say about it, but I

want everyone in the states that vote tomorrow to come out and vote and bring their families and their friends and everybody else because it's not

over until it's over, and tomorrow is a really important day, particularly right here in California.


GORANI: All right. Now Clinton easily won two contests during the weekend extending her delegate lead over Bernie Sanders, but Sanders is holding out

hope that he can convince so-called superdelegates to change their minds come convention time.

[15:20:06]On the Republican side, Donald Trump is finding himself in deeper hot water as members of his own party, not members of his own party,

members of his own party who have come out in support of him join the criticism of his attacks on a judge with Mexican heritage.

But in typical Trump fashion he's not only refusing to drop down he's also taking the controversy one step further. Phil Mattingly explains.


PHIL MATTINGLY, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Donald Trump now musing that a hypothetical Muslim judge may not remain neutral if presiding over

the case against Trump University.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: If it were a Muslim judge, would you also feel like they wouldn't be able to treat you fairly because of that policy of yours.

DONALD TRUMP (R), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: It's possible, yes. That would be possible.

MATTINGLY: And doubling down on his attacks against the Mexican-American federal judge he said should be disqualified from the trial.

JAKE TAPPER, CNN HOST, "THE LEAD": If you are saying he can't do his job because of his race, is that not the definition of racism?

TRUMP: He's proud of his heritage, OK. I'm building a wall. He's a Mexican.

TAPPER: You're invoking his race when talking about whether or not he can do his job.

TRUMP: I'm building a wall, OK. I'm building a wall.

MATTINGLY: Trump's comments increasingly raising sharp concerns inside the Republican Party.

NEWT GINGRICH, FORMER U.S. HOUSE SPEAKER: This is one of the worst mistakes Trump has made, and I think it's inexcusable. This judge is not

Mexican. This is judge is an American citizen.

MATTINGLY: Interviews with a series of top GOP officials, donors, fundraisers, and congressional aides making clear Trump has crossed a major


REPRESENTATIVE PAUL RYAN (R), HOUSE SPEAKER (via telephone): I completely disagree with the thinking behind that.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I don't condone the comments and we can press on to another topic.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Do you think it is a racist statement?

MITCH MCCONNELL, U.S. SENATE REPUBLICAN LEADER: I don't agree with what he had to say. This is a man who was born in Indiana.

MATTINGLY: It's a line of attack the Republicans fear could endanger their majority in the Senate and the GOP is defending 24 seats this cycle and

threaten the future of the party, something Senator McConnell hinted at in an interview with CNN's Jake Tapper last week.

TAPPER: Do you worry at all that your nominee now, Donald Trump, will do to Latino voters what Barry Goldwater did to African-Americans voters?

MCCONNELL: I do, I do.


GORANI: Of course, Donald Trump has emerged unscathed from other controversies time and time again, so will this blow over as well? Let's

bring in Republican strategist, Lisa Boothe. She is a contributor at "The Washington Examiner." Thanks for being with us on CNN. We appreciate it.


GORANI: So that is my first question. He's basically Teflon Donald, right, because he said some of the most outrageous things. Things that

people have seen as very extremely racist and unacceptable statements on Muslims, on Mexicans before. Is this time different?

BOOTHE: Well, we don't know, but I mean, he shouldn't have said this. It's a misstep on his behalf and I think that's why you're seeing people

like former Speaker Newt Gingrich, who has been a huge supporter of Donald Trump condemn the statements and say it was wrong of Donald Trump to say

such a thing.

You also have someone like Speaker Paul Ryan who just endorsed Donald Trump, reiterating what Speaker Gingrich said in saying that it was wrong.

Look, I think it's Donald Trump -- it's fair to question the impartiality of the judge but not based on ethnicity.

Based on the fact that it's an Obama appointee and the fact that the judge released documents that Hillary Clinton is now using as a line of attack

against Donald Trump.

You know, I think (inaudible) the law firm that he appointed to the plaintiffs is also a big donor of Hillary Clinton, I think those are

legitimate concerns for Donald Trump --

GORANI: Before she was a candidate for the presidency, though, that's important to note because that's something Republicans have been saying as

well about this judge. They couldn't have known she was running for president at the time.

BOOTHE: But the point I'm making, Hala, is that those are some legitimate concerns for him to bring up, but I disagree with him bringing up the

ethnicity and I think that's why you're seeing a lot of people step forward and say this was wrong.

GORANI: But let me ask you, you call it a misstep, but he's really doubling down because he repeated it several times. He was asked by our

own Jake Tapper -- I think Jake Tapper had something like 20 or 23 follow- up questions regarding his statement asking if it's racist.

And then he was asked if hypothetically a Muslim judge could be impartial and he said probably not. This sounds like a well thought out position on

his part and not a misstep as you call it.

BOOTHE: I don't think he should have said it. I don't think he should double down as well and I don't think he should continue to say it. Look,

Donald Trump has done well in the polls when it comes to issues like the economy, when it comes to dealing with ISIS. Those are strengths of Donald


He needs to talk about his business experience, being a CEO, creating jobs, and I think any time he is talking about something that is misguided in the

way that he has is not doing himself any favors and not doing his campaign any favors.

And those aren't the things he should be talking about. He should be talking about his strength. He should be talking about the things that

Americans care about which are jobs and the economy.

GORANI: But there has to be some concern now in the Republican Party, right, if very, very senior members including the speaker of the House,

Paul Ryan, are coming out and unequivocally saying we basically don't agree with what Donald Trump has said regarding this particular judge. They must

be worried, right?

BOOTHE: Yes, I think that's why they are stepping forward saying this is wrong. This is not a reflection of the Republican Party as a whole. I

mean, I think there are a lot of Democrats that look at Hillary Clinton and the fact she's facing a federal FBI investigation.

Saying, look, I support Hillary Clinton, but I don't necessarily support the way that she handled the e-mails and the private server or her private

e-mails as well.

So, yes, absolutely. This is why you have Republicans stepping forward because they don't understand why Donald Trump is making these comments and

it's out of line with the way they think.

It's out of line with the way that the majority of Republicans are thinking based off the fact that so many people have stepped forward and basically

said what are you doing? Why are you making these comments?

GORANI: Sure, but let's step away from these comments hand look at the overall strategy here. I mean, Donald Trump is spending a whole lot of

time in very blue Democratic states like California, for instance.

And some Republicans -- and as a Republican strategist maybe you can give me your opinion on this. What's behind it? Is there concern there as well

that he's spending time, capital and effort in a state that won't be a state won by the Republican Party and, therefore, is a waste of energy?

BOOTHE: Yes, I mean, I question his efforts in a state like California. I do, however, think that there is some evidence or at least the possibility

based on his stance on issues like trade to potentially put states like Michigan in play, Wisconsin if you look at the industrial Midwest. I think

there are opportunities there.

However, you look at a state like California which is just so Democratic, I just don't think that there's a strong possibility that he could

potentially put that in the Republican column.

So, yes, I do think it's a question of why he's spending so much time there when he should be looking at some of the states that he could potentially

turn and could potentially put in the Republican column.

GORANI: All right, we'll see many questions out there and see how this story develops and how the Republican leadership as well reacts going

forward. Lisa Boothe, a Republican strategist, joining us from New York.

BOOTHE: Thank you for having me.

GORANI: Appreciate it. Now if you're anything like me your social media were flooded this weekend with tributes to boxing legend, Muhammad Ali. I

have to say myself always been a fan absolutely loved him as an iconic figure.

There was nothing I could say so didn't tweet about it, but I so enjoyed what everyone else posted. Now of course, he died at age 74 after battling

Parkinson's disease for decades.

The world is now preparing to mourn. Two services are scheduled in Ali's hometown of Louisville, Kentucky, later this week. Both events will be

open to the public.

Let's get the latest details from CNN's Martin Savidge. He is live at the Muhammad Ali Center in Louisville. Let's talk first about what's expected

on Friday.

MARTIN SAVIDGE, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Hala, well, first, let me echo what you said. I was loving all those many tweets people put out, but I couldn't

find the words myself for such a remarkable life.

By the way, this is the public memorial that continues to grow. People come here. This center is really a touchstone for them at least in

Louisville and beyond. People are traveling from across the country to be here for this moment.

Let's talk about what is being planned for all of them. Louisville has essentially put out the welcome mat to the world because as the mayor says,

sure, Muhammad Ali is their hometown hero, son.

But they share him with the rest world and the rest of the world is a pretty big fan as well so they are trying to make arrangements that will

satisfy the huge crowds that are expected.

There is a new event that's been added Thursday. Friday is going to be the primary day. It will begin with a motorcade procession. Muhammad Ali's

body as it will wind through the streets of Louisville.

It will go on highways and side streets and even his old neighborhood where he grew up on the west side. And then there's going to be a 2:00

interfaith memorial service and that will have all sorts of notables taking part as well.

I should point out, about 15,000 can fit inside of the arena where that service is going to be held. The concern is there could be a lot more

people which is why that procession is so important.

It will allow many thousands of other people to line the route and pay their final respects to the hero, to the man, that so many people around

the world love -- Hala.

GORANI: Absolutely. Martin Savidge in Louisville, Kentucky, thanks so much and we'll continue to follow, of course, your reporting and coverage

from Kentucky as we approach this tribute on Friday.

Now, coming up, we go to ground zero of the Zika virus and take a closer look at the toll the disease is having on its very young victims. Stay

with us.




GORANI (voice-over): A look at our top stories.


GORANI: The Olympic games are just two months away and there are many concerns about the host city, Rio, still, especially about the mosquito-

borne virus, Zika, which has been linked to some severe birth defects.

So what happens when babies born with this problem grow up?

And how are the babies and their families affected?

CNN's Nick Paton Walsh shows us the distressing reality of growing up with the problem. He is in Rio.


NICK PATON WALSH, CNN SR. INTL. CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Born into a struggle that grows as they age.

This clinic is in Recife, where the disease of Zika has been cruelest in Brazil, leaving with what happens when babies with microcephaly grow and so

do their problems, unable to tell us the pains, agonies they may or may not be feeling or what we can do to help.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE (through translator): It was when he was born and we faced the other people in the hospital, their expressions. Seeing and

accepting the difference, for me, that was the hardest phase.

WALSH: So what works out, exactly how quickly Zika could even spread here at ground zero, there's a whole different set of problems. That's working

out, really, as these babies grow older, quite what the disease means for their development.

WALSH (voice-over): Artur (ph) cannot eat. Doctors say his brain can't switch between swallowing and breathing properly. So he's fed by a drip

and stunted in growth the size of a 3-month old, when he is now 8 months.


WALSH (voice-over): Born into a struggle that grows as they age.

This clinic is in Recife, where the disease of Zika has been cruelest in Brazil, leaving with what happens when babies with microcephaly grow and so

do their problems, unable to tell us the pains, agonies they may or may not be feeling or what we can do to help.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE (through translator): It was when he was born and we faced the other people in the hospital, their expressions. Seeing and

accepting the difference, for me, that was the hardest phase.

WALSH: So what works out, exactly how quickly Zika could even spread here at ground zero, there's a whole different set of problems. That's working

out, really, as these babies grow older, quite what the disease means for their development.

WALSH (voice-over): Artur (ph) cannot eat. Doctors say his brain can't switch between swallowing and breathing properly. So he's fed by a drip

and stunted in growth the size of a 3-month old, when he is now 8 months.


WALSH (voice-over): They're testing his hearing, seeing if he turns his head to look. A little to the right, to the left -- nothing. This is how

it goes here, every minute discoveries that alter a child's future.

Victoria (ph) was abandoned by her natural mother at birth, adopted by Kelly (ph) a month ago.

KELLY (PH), VICTORIA'S ADOPTED MOM (through translator): When we saw her we fell in love with her. I didn't want to know what she had. That didn't

matter. She's my daughter.

WALSH (voice-over): And today may change her life. She's having her eyes stimulated, being fitted for glasses to find out if she can see at all.

It's hard to tell what she sees, if the bright lights became real shapes.

With Lohandra (ph), it's a little more palpable.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: (Speaking foreign language).

WALSH (voice-over): Her first sight.

But still, her arms stiffen straight, her underdeveloped brain telling them to do so.

We talk here of prejudice, of days spent ferrying children between specialist doctors, for being fired from work because of that, of a lack of

state money to pull them through. This is the world that Zika brings. And here and globally, it is only beginning.


GORANI: Well, Nick Paton Walsh joins me now from Rio de Janeiro with more on this epidemic.

Nick, what is the reaction of doctors when they hear experts and other medical professionals outside of Brazil saying this is such a risk that

even the Olympic Games should be delayed?

How do they react to that?

WALSH: Well, and that clearly, the problems are so much more immediate and close to home. And the day-to-day reality is that Zika is potentially an

infection you can get to any stage here.

So the notion of bringing tourists into the country is I think to some people a distraction to what they're having to confront on a daily basis.

The major issue in that clinic most doctors and parents talked about was the level of care that these children now require the older they get.

Now, as you're seeing there, it is quite clear that Zika is transmitted easily through mosquitoes. There's increasing evidence. People are

hearing potentially of human-to-human transmission. (INAUDIBLE) recently adjusting its guidance there suggests that in fact you need to think about

not having unprotected sex for eight weeks after potentially being in contact with Zika.

But down on the ground level in that clinic there, the fear is, how do you get your child between the many different doctors you need perhaps need to

go and see, the specialists to deal with the increasing number of symptoms that microcephaly from Zika, can in fact bring.

One father we spoke to said his major issue was finding enough money to pay for the petrol, for the gas to get between these different doctors in one

day, one mother saying she lost her job simply because of the amount of time she had to spend ferrying her child around.

GORANI: And what happens to these children when they grow up?

We're seeing them as babies now.

What do doctors say will happen down the road?

WALSH: Well, that's a very difficult question to answer, and I have to say it's not one that really you hear spoken of. It's still early, frankly, in

their lives, in the development and studying of what microcephaly borne of Zika can in fact mean for a child's development.

As you saw there, a lot of the potential problems they're facing may not resolve themselves as they get older. They may find their development is

permanently stunted and there are questions as to exactly how long they might in fact expect to live.

It's a difficult and delicate topic and one that you don't really hear spoken of in those clinics, where the issues are more immediate and the

mothers and fathers wish to show as much love as they possibly can do in those very difficult circumstances.

But, yes, down the line, the problems they face, it seems, increase as will the level of care that they require to be given -- Hala.

GORANI: All right. One really feels terrible for these innocent little babies. Thanks very much, Nick Paton Walsh, reporting from Rio.

Now tributes have been paid and are still pouring in to two crew members of NPR, who were killed in Afghanistan.

David Gilkey, seen here on the right, was a veteran photographer for the U.S-based radio network. The other man, Zabihullah Tamanna, was an Afghan

freelancer also working for NPR. There they both are.

They were with an Afghan army unit near Marja in Helmand Province when their convoy came under fire on Sunday. The Afghan president, Ashraf

Ghani, said that the two were killed by, quote, "Taliban brutality."

The Taliban has not claimed responsibility for the attack.

This is THE WORLD RIGHT NOW. We'll be right back.





GORANI: The American president, Barack Obama, has been careful not to play favorites. But Hillary Clinton is apparently on the verge of clinching the

Democratic presidential nomination. So it appears as though he's finally ready to weigh in.

CNN has learned that Mr. Obama will formally endorse Clinton for the presidency as soon as this week. The Clinton campaign hopes his star power

among Democrats can help unify the party even as Bernie Sanders keeps up the fight.

Now she is still fighting for California. She took the stage in Lynnwood just a few minutes ago.

There she is, those are live images, coming to us from California.

Let's get some perspective now from David Brock, he's the founder of Correct the Record, a pro-Clinton super PAC.

So let's start by talking about California and really the expectation is that Hillary Clinton will reach that magic delegate number after the

primary contests tomorrow.

Do you think Bernie Sanders at that stage should drop out?

DAVID BROCK, FOUNDER, CORRECT THE RECORD, Well, I think that, first of all, the combination of 3 million more Americans having gone out and voted for

Secretary Clinton and then the majority of super delegates, the majority of pledged delegates, will make her the presumptive nominee tomorrow night.

And Senator Sanders is going to face a choice. I happen to agree with Senator Jeff Merkley, who is Senator Sanders' only Senate supporter, who

said that, after tomorrow, there's really no point to fighting and we ought to unify the party behind Secretary Clinton in her cause, in the Democratic

cause to defeat Donald Trump.

GORANI: All right. But now the Sanders campaign has said, look, in terms of super delegates, they don't vote. They don't throw their support behind

Hillary Clinton; until they do, there's still a very narrow path to the nomination for Bernie Sanders.

What's your reaction to that as a supporter of Hillary Clinton?

BROCK: Well, let's go back to 2008. It was eight years ago tomorrow that Hillary Clinton conceded her race against Barack Obama. And the reason she

did that was because the combination of pledged and super delegates mathematically put Barack Obama over the top.

And so she realized rather than fight it out to the convention that the imperative was to elect Barack Obama against the Republicans and to begin

to unify her supporters. And so I think the same logic applies now. It's always a combination of these pledged and super delegates that give you a

presumptive nominee.

And so to argue otherwise for Hillary Clinton to me is to argue for a double standard against everything she's achieved. And including making


GORANI: Now let's talk a little bit about her issues here because, even though she will reach that number of pledged and super delegates tomorrow,

that's the expectation, Hillary Clinton's unfavorability rating is going to be an issue because if you look --


GORANI: -- at the latest CBS "New York Times" poll, 52 percent of people polled, registered voters, have an unfavorable view of Hillary Clinton; 55

percent of Donald Trump, who is a very controversial candidate for many reasons.

How is she going to overcome that?

BROCK: Well, I think there are a couple of different things to be said about that.

One is, once the Democratic Party stops the primary fight and starts to unify behind Secretary Clinton, I think by the same political laws that

those numbers go up, they can come down some.

I think, two, the reality is Hillary Clinton has been in the sights of the right wing for more than 30 years. She's been fully vetted. A lot of

people have their minds made up about her. They may not like her for one reason or another.

But there's not much room for that number to grow; whereas, with Donald Trump, whose negatives are already higher than Hillary Clinton's, his media

exposure has been very wide but I think it's very shallow.

There's a lot still to be known about Donald Trump and so I think there's plenty of room for his negatives to actually grow.

GORANI: But it doesn't concern that you, if you look at matchups, national matchups, for instance, there was a Quinnipiac poll that Trump-Clinton and

Trump-Sanders, that Sanders performs better against Trump nationally than Hillary Clinton in many surveys.

First of all, why do you think that is?

And, secondly, is that not a cause for real worry here?

BROCK: I don't think it's a cause for real worry because the reason I think it is is that Senator Sanders has not been subject to the kind of

negative campaigning that Hillary Clinton has faced, literally since she came on the scene in 1992, at all.

The Republicans haven't touched Senator Sanders. In fact, they spent a lot of money advertising on his behalf to help him beat Hillary, because they

know Hillary is the one they don't want to run against.

And I also think the press didn't take the Sanders candidacy as seriously as it might have and so he was not thoroughly vetted. And so I don't think

that that number is real. I think it would come down. I think Sanders' number would come down if there was real vetting and once the Republican

attack machine started up.

GORANI: Well, it is a poll. Polls have been unreliable certainly in the past but it gives us some indication.

By the way, Hillary Clinton has a new campaign ad and it seems as though this is a strategy here from the Clinton campaign, which is to take the

words of Donald Trump and take the words of Republicans themselves and use them in ads in support of Hillary Clinton. I want our viewers to watch


And I'm afraid we don't have it but, either way, it features angry Republicans, angry at Donald Trump for some of the things he's said, in

particular about that judge of Mexican descent, who is presiding over the Trump University case.

Is that now the way that Hillary Clinton is going to be going, taking some of those words and using -- trying to use them against Trump?

BROCK: Well, sure, I think that's going to be very effective. I think you've seen that in Clinton advertising already, the ad today and an ad

about women.

And then I think also, you know, the speech that the secretary gave last week was largely hanging Trump by his own words. And I think that that was

extremely effective as well because the statements themselves are self- discrediting. And when you line them up, it's just devastating and you really don't need to say much more.

GORANI: All right. We'll see if it works. We'll see how that's reflected going forward. Thanks very much.

David Brock, the founder of Correct the Record, a pro-Clinton super PAC thanks for being on CNN.

BROCK: Thank you.


GORANI: Here in the United Kingdom, the debate is certainly heating up ahead of the upcoming referendum.

The question: do you want to stay or do you want to leave the European Union?

Both sides are trading insults now and accusations and some very strong language is being -- floating around. Prime Minister David Cameron is

firmly on the side of staying inside the European Union. He says leaving would put jobs at risk and be a self-inflicted blow to the country.


DAVID CAMERON, PRIME MINISTER, GREAT BRITAIN: Add those things together, the shock impact, the uncertainty impact, the trade impact, and you put a

bomb under our economy. And the worst thing is, we would have lit the fuse ourselves.


GORANI: Now on the Leave side is Boris Johnson from the same party as David Cameron. He accuses the prime minister of scaremongering. He also

didn't mince his words. Listen.


BORIS JOHNSON, FORMER MAYOR OF LONDON: So I think they can see that, on the democratic side of the argument, they are losing. But what they say,

what they say is that that sacrifice of democracy is worth it for the economic gain. And what I want to say to you today is that that argument

is morally and practically completely wrong.



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Coming up, well, you just saw the former mayor of London, Boris Johnson. Well, London's mayor now, who is the first Muslim mayor, is speaking out

about the holy month of Ramadan. We'll tell you what he's most worried about giving up during the fast. That's still ahead.




GORANI: Well, London's mayor, Sadiq Khan, says he's facing what going to be his biggest challenge in office so far. Well, it's only been a few

weeks but he says it might just be the holy month of Ramadan.

Khan has written in Britain's "The Guardian" newspaper about the upcoming month of fasting and observance. Now he's of course the city's first

Muslim mayor. Khan says he's most worried about going without coffee.

But he also sees the month as an opportunity.

Khan wrote, "If your only experience of Islam is what you see on the news, the angry man with the beard doing or saying something terrible, then you

may inadvertently associate that with Islam and think that is what it's all about.

"So I'm making it a priority this month to get out there and build bridges."

Khan says this year will be especially tough because, for all of our viewers who may be fasting during this month of Ramadan, it will be quite a

long one, especially if you live in Western Europe -- 19 hours long as it starts very close to the longest day of the year and includes the longest

day of the year, June 21st.

Now what happens when high fashion teams up with Hollywood and goes to the opera. A new take on the 1853 classic, "La Traviata." CNN Style went

behind the scenes in Rome with director Sophia Coppola.



UNIDENTIFIED MALE (voice-over): Mr. Valentino was putting on a show. He's staging a quintessential Italian opera, the Teatro dell'Opera in Rome. In

addition to Verdi's "La Traviata," which might just be its most fashionable performance to date.

VALENTINO GARAVANI, DESIGNER: We tried to put a little -- no, quite a bit of haute couture in this show.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE (voice-over): Mr. Valentino and his long-standing business partner, Giancarlo Giammetti, have always strived for nothing

less than perfection. And so for his adaptation of "La Traviata," he enlisted Hollywood royalty to direct, daughter of Francis Ford Coppola and

an Oscar-nominated director in her own right, Sofia Coppola.

GIANCARLO GIAMMETTI, CO-FOUNDER, VALENTINO: The first thing, of course, it was to find somebody to bring new life and new freshness and we were all

under the great impression that "Marie Antoinette" did (INAUDIBLE) movies of Sofia, of course, but visually that it was amazing and that's why we

discussed about getting Sofia's (INAUDIBLE).


SOFIA COPPOLA, DIRECTOR (voice-over): I watched the first performance tonight and just the set or the background, the lighting, all those

elements are really important to me.

I actually like two days ago it felt like a mess and they still weren't (INAUDIBLE) at the last minute it all comes together and it's really

touching to see the dancers and choreography and the lighting and everything come together. But it happens very last-minute in theater,

which is different than film.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE (voice-over): It was beautiful.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE (voice-over): This is a classic opera --


UNIDENTIFIED MALE (voice-over): -- with some modern twists.

Would you --


Ooh, that red dress.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Everything is good in a red dress.

KNIGHTLEY: Oh, everything is good in a red dress.

Yes, no. I just thought it was beautiful and so moving and, yes, I was blown away.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE (voice-over): He's used to dressing traditional fashion models and here you had sopranos who needed to be able to breathe.

MONICA BELLUCCI, ACTOR: He loves women because his fashion is so respectful for women. A woman is a woman, doesn't matter the shape.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE (voice-over): It was very new for me and I really enjoyed it.

COPPOLA: I just wanted to be able to make a version of "La Traviata" that I hope was enjoyable.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE (voice-over): I was very happy because I was proud not just to show the haute clothes that I make for the soprano, for

(INAUDIBLE), but to see, to show to my friends the beauty of the stage, of the beauty of the new "Traviata."



GORANI (voice-over): All right. You can check out the CNN Style show on Saturday at 1:30 p.m.,

Before we leave tonight, we want to show you some video that caught our eye of a brazen heist in India.


GORANI (voice-over): The culprit is a small monkey. You see him there, pushing his way into a jewelry store after being offered some fruit. The

primate headed straight for the register, grabbed a handful of cash and then bolted.


GORANI: On that note, this has been THE WORLD RIGHT NOW. Thanks for watching. I'm Hala Gorani. "QUEST MEANS BUSINESS" is next.