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Sanders Staying in Race Regardless of Clinton Delegate Count; Republican Chaos over Trump's Comments on Judge; France Prepared for Terror Attacks on Euro 2016; Annual U.S./China Talks Tense; Importance of Brexit Vote; Surprising Reason Trump Should Know Better Than Attack Judges; Athlete's Sentence for Sexual Assault Causes Outrage; Non- Verbal Autistic Woman Becomes Talk Show Host. Aired 2-3a ET

Aired June 07, 2016 - 02:00   ET

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[02:00:11] JOHN VAUSE, CNN ANCHOR: This is CNN NEWSROOM, live from Los Angeles.

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VAUSE: Hello, everybody. I'd like to welcome all our viewers around the world. Great to have you with us. I'm John Vause.

ISHA SESAY, CNN ANCHOR: And I'm Isha Sesay. NEWSROOM, L.A. starts right now.

VAUSE: Hillary Clinton has the delegates needed to clinch the Democratic presidential nomination. She has 2,384 putting her just over the top.

SESAY: It's a historic moment, as she would be the first female nominee of a major political party. This comes just before the final round of primary contests and a tough battle here in California Tuesday for hundreds of delegates.

VAUSE: And sources tell CNN that President Barack Obama is ready to endorse Clinton.

Despite all of that, she's still urging voters to head to the polls on Tuesday.

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HILLARY CLINTON, (D), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE & FORMER SECRETARY OF STATE: According to the news, we are on the brink of a historic, historic, unprecedented moment.

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CLINTON: But we still have work to do, don't we?

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CLINTON: We have six elections tomorrow. And we're going to fight hard for every single vote, especially right here in California!

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SESAY: Rival Bernie Sanders remains defiant, criticizing the delegate count process, and he insists he's taking his fight all the way to the convention.

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SEN. BERNIE SANDERS, (I), VERMONT & DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: And if we can win here in California, win in South Dakota, North Dakota, Montana, New Mexico, do well in New Jersey, we're going to go into that convention with enormous momentum.

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VAUSE: And there's campaign chaos on the Republican side. Details of a conference call were leaked where Donald Trump is heard urging supporters to step up attacks against the federal judge overseeing the Trump University case. Trump is refusing to back down on his calls for Judge Gonzalo Curiel to recuse himself because of his Mexican heritage.

SESAY: Trump told staff and supporters to ignore a campaign memo telling to dodge questions on the subject. Now, according to "Bloomberg Politics," he said "That's one of the reasons I want to have this call, because you guys are getting sometimes stupid information from people that aren't that smart."

Joining us now, conservative analyst and radio talk show host on the Salem Radio Network, that's Larry Elder.

VAUSE: And in Sacramento, California, Democratic strategist, Kevin Chavous.

Gentlemen, welcome to you both.

LARRY ELDER, CONSERVATIVE ANALYST & RADIO TALK SHOW HOST, SALEM RADIO NETWORK: Thank you.

KEVIN CHAVOUS, DEMOCRATIC STRATEGIST: Thank you.

VAUSE: In case you missed the point, Hillary Clinton tweeted this out a short time ago in response to the news that she's got the nomination. "We're flattered but we've got primaries to win. California, Montana, New Mexico, North Dakota, New Jersey, South Dakota vote tomorrow!"

Kevin, really? What's the point here? Does she just want to bury Bernie Sanders or is this all about is she worried about something?

CHAVOUS: Well, look, history's repeating itself. Remember, in 2008, Hillary Clinton beat Barack Obama in California when the nomination was virtually locked up at that time. So this is not unusual. A lot of people forget that. And I think she wants to make sure she has a strong showing going into the convention. But she has to pay attention to Bernie Sanders and his supporters. I mean, look, when Bernie Sanders supporters hear super delegates, what they're also hearing is wait for your turn. And they don't want to wait. And I think that what Hillary Clinton has to do is embrace change and work with Bernie Sanders to make sure they bring the party together. And she can't do that if she doesn't have the right momentum going in.

SESAY: And, Larry, to bring you in here, the bottom line is she may have that mind or that eye towards the Bernie Sanders supporters because she doesn't want to initiate a backlash, but even as a Republican, I'm sure you can appreciate this moment of a woman, you know, leading a major party in this country.

ELDER: Well, absolutely. As a person who was born and raised in America, I'm proud of my country. I've always believed that if you are a woman, a black person, Asian, Hispanic, whatever, if you have views that are consistent with the majority of the American people you're going to be elected. This is kind of an anti-climactic thing to me.

I remember when Obama got elected in 2008. There were front page newspapers, "L.A. Times," "New York Times," where black parents were saying for the first time I can truly say my kid can grow up and be anybody he or she wants. And I said to myself, if Obama had lost, what would you have told them?

VAUSE: Right.

SESAY: And that's a valid point. But you can't turn -- or one would argue turning the negative away from the spotlight --

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[02:05:08] ELDER: It's not insignificant. It's a big deal. There's no question about that. But again, America has long been fair, open- minded, and for a qualified person, female or black, he or she can become president.

VAUSE: Bernie Sanders, he didn't talk about Hillary Clinton clinching the nomination tonight. Again, though, he went after her for her Wall Street ties. This is some of what he said.

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SANDERS: And one of the differences between Secretary Clinton and our campaign is we don't have a super PAC. We don't want a super PAC.

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SANDERS: Our job is to take on Wall Street, not take Wall Street's money.

(END VIDEO CLIP) VAUSE: OK. So, Kevin, at this point in the campaign, especially surely Sanders knows the numbers, he knows what's happened. Isn't it time for him to back off? No one's saying get out of the rates, but maybe turn it down.

CHAVOUS: Well, look, he has a constituency. And this is an historic time, not only because we have a woman who's the leading nominee of a major political party, but it's a historic time because we have a reordering, a rethinking of American politics. The status quo, the party bosses, the so-called super delegate mindset is really fast becoming a thing of the past. That's why you see Trump and Bernie Sanders gaining some traction.

And when Hillary Clinton thinks about bringing the party together and embracing change, she really needs to embrace a new mindset. These younger voters, the voters under 45 who are largely supporting Bernie Sanders, they don't want business as usual. And I think that when people start hammering in on the experience and knowing how to get things done, that is not the message for 2016. And I think that Bernie Sanders knows that. He wants to go in there and affect the Democratic Party platform at the convention. And he wants to be a voice for the voiceless, those people who are behind him. And I think that the Democratic Party leadership, if they really want to win, then they need to respect that as well.

SESAY: So, Kevin, am I right in saying you don't expect the Democratic party leadership to basically go into overdrive effectively from tomorrow or at least after tomorrow to say, you know, not just tone it down but actually fall back, step out, this is it?

CHAVOUS: Well, look, I think Larry understands this, having been around politics for many years.

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CHAVOUS: Let's just say the games are beginning. Yeah. I mean, the games are just beginning. After tomorrow, there's going to be a lot of conversations. It's been reported the president's already spoken to Bernie Sanders. At some point in time, Bernie Sanders will speak with Secretary Clinton, but their substantive conversations won't take place until a lot of these other conversations are at hand.

And it's clear that Bernie Sanders is not going to go away quietly. He's not going to want to turn over his supporters without a real appreciation and understanding for the support he has and what they stand for. They've got to address this Wall Street issue because that is something that's tapped into the core of the Democratic Party mindset of young voters. They've got to come to grips with this idea of college education that makes a lot of sense. And I'm going to tell you, even Donald Trump and Bernie Sanders have some agreement on this trade issue. And from my point of view, real quickly, I've said this several times

before, Isha and John, you know this. I think she should step out there on issues like education and school choice and Larry supports that stuff. Why can't we build this new form of nationalism --

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VAUSE: OK, Larry, we have to move on. We've got to get to Donald Trump very quickly.

CHAVOUS: Maybe Larry could say something.

VAUSE: Exactly.

CHAVOUS: Sorry, Larry. Sorry.

ELDER: No problem.

VAUSE: Not one elected Republican official or Republican Party leader has come forward to defend Donald Trump and this dispute with the judge overseeing his lawsuit. In fact, Michael Reagan, son of Ronald Reagan, tweeted this out today. "This most likely would be the first time, if my father was alive, that he would not support the nominee of the GOP."

Larry, why does Trump keep digging in on this? Why does he make this hole deeper?

ELDER: I think because he comes from this as a perspective as a businessman. He has gone after judges, gone after other litigants. The worst that can happen, if he were in business, is he'd have a judge mad at him and a bunch of lawyers that made a lot of money. He's in politics right now. He ought to simply say, I'm sorry about referring to him as a Mexican.

The other part about whether or not he might belong to an organization that's taken a position about immigration, those are legitimate reasons. However, his lawyers have not filed a motion for recusal.

VAUSE: Yeah.

ELDER: He's the one making all these arguments because they know it wouldn't work.

SESAY: And, Larry, we want to put up a tweet from the former California governor, Arnold Schwarzenegger. He tweeted a short time ago his support for Judge Curiel and said this, "Judge Curiel is an American hero who stood up to the Mexican cartels. I was proud to appoint him when I was governor."

Where on earth does this leave GOP unity?

[02:10:10] ELDER: I think that Donald Trump needs to start paying attention to what some of the other leaders are saying. I mean, you pointed out he's not gotten backing from anybody. Paul Ryan has criticized the statement. Mitch McConnell's criticized the statement. Marco Rubio, who reluctantly came to his side, has criticized the statement. He needs, Donald Trump, to say I'm sorry and show people he can be humble. This is a whole different ball game now. This is politics not business.

VAUSE: And there's a lost anger out there. There's a Democratic congressman in Texas who wrote an open letter to Donald Trump, and said in part, "Mr. Trump, you're a racist. You can take your border wall and shove it up your" -- you can read the rest. And then that congressman explained why he used such explicit language. Listen to this.

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REP. FILEMON VELA, (D), TEXAS: Well, I would have liked to have spoken in a much more diplomatic fashion but I felt like I had to speak to Donald Trump in language that he understands.

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VAUSE: Now, Kevin, very quickly, if Donald Trump needs to reach out to Latinos and Hispanics right now, it ain't working.

CHAVOUS: Well, temperance is the order of the day. I think Larry understands that as well.

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Look, I'm a practicing lawyer, been practicing for many years. I can tell you this, that Larry made an excellent point, the mere fact that Trump's lawyers in this lawsuit didn't file for a recusal speaks volumes because they know they can't file a frivolous claim because they could face sanctions. I think all people of reasonable minds need to persuade Mr. Trump to back away. And he has to exercise temperance if he wants to be the leader of the free world.

SESAY: No sign of temperance on the horizon, though.

ELDER: The question is does he want to win? I remember when Donald Trump criticized Bernie Sanders for taking the e-mail issue off the table. He said Bernie doesn't really want to win. The question is, Donald, do you really want to win?

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ELDER: If you really want to win, you can't keep these self-inflicted wounds. It doesn't make any sense.

VAUSE: Larry, thank you. Good to have you with us.

And, Kevin, thank you for joining us.

Great to have you guys with us.

ELDER: Thank you.

SESAY: Pleasure. Some breaking news out of Turkey now to bring you. An explosion near a bus stop in central Istanbul has left several people wounded.

VAUSE: CNN Turk reports a Turkish police bus was targeted during the morning rush hour. It's not yet clear if anyone was killed in the attack or who may have carried it out.

SESAY: We'll continue to follow that situation for and you bring you details as they come in to us.

Moving on to France now, and France is holding a security exercise in Lyon Tuesday to prepare for potential terrorist threats at the Euro 2016 football championship. ISIS has said it intends to attack the tournament, which kicks off Friday.

VAUSE: France will deploy nearly 100,000 security forces to guard the event at match venues and fan zones. Millions of football fans are expected at the tournament.

And Ukraine says it's detained a Frenchman who planned at least a dozen attacks on the Euro 2016 championship. Authorities say he reached out to armed groups in eastern Ukraine and built up an arsenal of weapons and explosives.

SESAY: He was arrested late last month on the Polish border with Ukraine as he tried to smuggle the weapons across. French authorities say they have not yet opened an investigation into the alleged terror plot.

VAUSE: CNN intelligence security analyst, Bob Baer, is with us in Telluride, Colorado. And also here on the set we have former FBI special agent, Steve Moore, and CNN contributor.

Guys, thank you for being with us.

Steve, first to you.

71 million fans, 51 games, 10 venues. ISIS wants to hit it. Police are exhausted because of a state of emergency. They've dealt with two terror tacks in the last year. On paper, this looks like a disaster waiting to happen, doesn't it?

STEVE MOORE, CNN LAW ENFORCEMENT CONTRIBUTOR: It does. But I don't think ISIS is this bold. They're somewhat risk averse. And I think the fact that they telegraphed they're going to hit this target really means that they don't -- you know, barking dogs don't bite. So I think what they've got here is they're trying to get as much mileage as they can out of the fear. So I don't really think they have it in them to hit.

SESAY: Bob, to bring you in here.

Security for this tournament is effectively a co-production involving numerous departments, private security companies and European police forces. Is that reassuring to you or a source of concern, the fact there are so many different parties involved? BOB BAER, CNN INTELLIGENCE & SECURITY ANALYST: Well, I think the

French are really expecting something to happen. This guy in the Ukraine, it was a right-wing fanatic apparently, what we heard so far. I mean, he has nothing to do with Islam. In fact, he was claiming to launch these attacks against immigrants.

But what President Hollande has said is you cannot completely guard France 100 percent. All it takes is one person with a suicide vest to wreak havoc in France. And I think that's, at the end of the day, what they're scared about as opposed to a Paris-like attack right now.

VAUSE: But, Bob, there is the intelligence that came out I think back in April that the same terror group which carried out the Paris attack, the Brussels attack, had in fact considered an attack on Euro 2016. So when Hollande says there's a threat out there, ISIS and others, it has to be taken seriously, right?

[02:15:15] BAER: Oh, I think you absolutely have to. I think it would be a miracle if the French get through this without some sort of incident occurring simply because Euro 2016 is so important to France. And France is under threat right now. And the Islamic State, by the way, is losing ground. And when the Islamic State loses ground, it strikes out externally.

SESAY: Steve, you worked in operations many a time. When you look at the situation here with the Euro 2016 tournament about to start, are there lessons to be learned from, say, the London Olympics in 2012? Talk to me about what's going on behind the scenes.

MOORE: Certainly. From the L.A. Olympics in '84, all the way to the last Olympics in London, we have learned as we went. There have been things that have been stopped before the Olympics started. And that is what we're pulling in or what they're pulling in through all of this. Bob is right. We can't rule out that somebody's going to try something. And frankly, having this event in France right now is like having a Christmas party in Raqqa. It is not ideal. Obviously, it was planned five years ago. But you are in an area where there is proven terrorist infrastructure. Whether ISIS is bold enough to go against their risk aversion is what this -- which is why we have to plan so well against it.

VAUSE: Bob, if it's not ISIS which is the threat, which clearly they are. But who else? What other groups could be planning something here?

BAER: Well, I think, as Steve said, you've got to plan for anything. You have al Qaeda. You have various groups. In Mali, for instance, it would like to strike the French. The whole Sub-Saharan African terrorist group, it goes by various names, is capable of striking in France. Remember, just the kind of crowds there, it doesn't take anything too sophisticated to cause a lot of casualties. And you know, filtering every single suspect in France, the immigrant population is very large, the converts, there's a lot of them. And when the French say they're worried, I believe them.

SESAY: And, Steve, quickly, last word to you. As Bob just said, it doesn't take a lot to cause a lot of chaos.

MOORE: Exactly.

SESAY: For authorities this is not merely just a case of preparing for an explosive attack. This is being prepared for anything and everything.

MOORE: You could have one person with a pistol come in at the wrong place at the wrong time and it would command headlines for days. So this is kind of a no-lose situation. And those lone-wolf terrorists are the ones that are the wild card in this.

VAUSE: Obviously, we're following this story all week because everything kicks off on Friday, as we said.

Steve, thanks for being with us, and also Bob Baer in Telluride.

SESAY: Bob, thank you.

Steve, always a pleasure.

BAER: Thanks.

Now, the Islamic holy month of fasting is under way against the backdrop of an ISIS call for lone-wolf attacks.

VAUSE: Ramadan is observed by Muslims around the world but the holiday is especially difficult right now in the besieged Syrian city of Aleppo. Thousands of residents are trapped there as fighting rages between Syrian government forces as well as rebels. And still in Syria, and again another heavy civilian toll in this conflict, the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights says an air strike killed at least 17 civilians at a busy market near Deir Ezzor (ph).

SESAY: Eight children and three women are among the dead.

Russia's defense ministry is denying claims that Russian war planes helped carry out the strikes.

VAUSE: It's the last day of talks between the United States and China in Beijing. When we come back, why this year has been especially tense.

[02:19:00] SESAY: And the Japanese boy who was lost in the woods for nearly a week has just been released from the hospital. But will his parents face charges? Details, next.

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VAUSE: Welcome back, everybody. A Japanese boy who was lost for nearly a week in the woods was just released from hospital last hour. As he left the building he told reporters he's OK, said he's looking forward to going back to school. Police in Hokkaido say they will not charge the boy's parents, but a police spokesman says they may follow up on suspicions of emotional abuse.

SESAY: The boy's father said he left him on a roadside as punishment for misbehaving during a family trip. The boy spent six nights in an empty military building before he was found Friday.

VAUSE: Tuesday is the final day of annual talks between the United States and China in Beijing. Officials from the world's two largest economies usually discuss issues like trade and currency.

SESAY: But this year's talks have been especially tense thanks to a slowing Chinese economy and a contentious presidential race here in the U.S.

VAUSE: CNN's Asia-Pacific editor, Andrew Stevens, joins us now live from Hong Kong.

So, Andrew, a lot of tough talk from both sides about the South China Sea and China's territorial claims before this meeting began. So how did it all end up?

ANDREW STEVENS, CNN ASIA-PACIFIC EDITOR: Well, we're still going. The tough talk has been since then, John, the open sessions and the tough talk on south China say the tough talk has gone on to trade issues. But on the South China Sea both sides at the beginning of this summit making it clear where they stand. President Xi Jinping in China saying that he wants more mutual understanding between the U.S. and China on the South China Sea to avoid what he calls a "strategic misjudgment" between these two very, very strong nuclear powers.

John Kerry, the secretary of state, for his side, was saying there has to be a diplomatic solution to China's issues about encroaching about its unilateral declaration of territory in the South China Sea. It's unilateral. It's being fought by many of China neighbors. John Kerry says the only way to resolve this is through diplomacy. And he says the U.S. will continue and will always seek freedom of navigation, freedom of over-flights in that area, basically not recognizing what China is doing.

So it remains tense. Certainly, the words on either side have not sort of ratcheted tensions down at all. Add to that there's going to be a United Nations ruling on the legality of China's claim to this area. That's expected in the next few weeks. China's already said it won't recognize that decision. The U.S. is saying that it needs to abide by these international laws. So certainly, tensions remain there and will continue -- John?

[2:25:41] VAUSE: OK. Andrew, there's also been a lot of tough talk about the issue of steel between the United States and China. Again, they're still trying to resolve that issue. We'll see what happens there.

Andrew, thank you.

Andrew Stevens live for us in Hong Kong. SESAY: All right now. Just 16 days until Britons decides whether to

stay in the European Union or get out. Why the markets could be growing nervous.

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SESAY: You're watching CNN NEWSROOM, live from Los Angeles. I'm Isha Sesay.

VAUSE: And I'm John Vause. Thanks for staying with us.

The headlines this hour --

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[02:30:45] VAUSE: U.K. Independence Party leader, Nigel Farage, and British Prime Minister David Cameron will take questions from a live studio audience later today on the so-called Brexit vote. Mr. Cameron is warning that Britain leaving the E.U. will put the economy at risk.

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DAVID CAMERON, BRITISH PRIME MINISTER: Add those things together, the shock impact, the uncertainly impact, the trade impact, and you put a bomb under our economy. And the worst thing is we would have lit the fuse ourselves.

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SESAY: But former London mayor, Boris Johnson, said Mr. Cameron is just trying to scare the voters.

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BORIS JOHNSON, FORMER MAYOR OF LONDON: So I think they can see that on the Democratic side of the argument they are losing. But what they say, what they say is that that sacrifice of democracy is worth it for the economic gain. And what I want to say to you today is that that argument is morally and practically completely wrong.

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SESAY: Joining us now is Sandro Monetti, the managing editor of the "L.A. Business Journal."

Looking super smart. Sandro Monetti in a suit.

VAUSE: It's great to have you here.

SANDRO MONETTI, MANAGING EDITOR, L.A. BUSINESS JOURNAL: You're look great, too, both of you.

VAUSE: Thank you very much.

SESAY: Thank you.

VAUSE: Let's talk Brexit. This is going to be a very, very important decision for British voters. And right now all the polls have the numbers surging toward leaving the E.U. This has been a bit of a turnaround. So what's driving those numbers? What has actually -- has something happened in the last few weeks?

MONETTI: The vote has been talked about for many months. Now it's almost upon us, June 23. So people have put it to the back of their minds and now they're really starting to pay attention to it. And there is a lot of uncertainty in the financial markets caused by the fact that the polls have changed. Suddenly, it's gone by about 3 percent to 4 percent in favor of leave. And, yes, it seems to me that the more David Cameron makes the stay argument, the more the polls go in the wrong direction.

VAUSE: There's not one thing you can point to. It's just that people are seriously contemplating.

MONETTI: It's a matter of timing. This debate about Europe is taking place in British politics for many years, but at the last election, David Cameron made a pledge there would be a public referendum to stay or to go. And now the vote is almost upon us and people are seriously thinking about their vote.

SESAY: The prime minister has accused the "leave camp" of pulling as he says an economic con trick on the public. Let me ask you this. As a Brit, does the British public fully understand the issues at play here? How well is the media doing at explaining all of this as you kind of followed it from afar?

MONETTI: Yes, it hasn't been explained well at all. There's been lots of spin on both sides. And it's been a tricky one for the media to sort out the truth from the spinning that is going on here. And now everyone is sort of making their own decisions. And it's incredibly close. And because of this uncertainty, as I was referring to, the pound is at a three-week low against the dollar. And those who are making the argument, like David Cameron, that this is going to put an economic time bomb under Britain if we leave are, you know, starting to see some sense in that argument. But Boris Johnson, who you saw there, who is very much in favor of leave, is taking the argument, short-term pain for long-term gain, don't worry because this will be so fantastic the pound will be stronger than ever if we go on our own.

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VAUSE: Trust me, he says.

MONETTI: Trust me, he says. And this, to me, is pretty much a personality battle now. It has become Cameron against Johnson, the two most prominent figures in the Conservative Party.

SESAY: Old school friends, right?

MONETTI: Old school friends turned enemies. When this is all over in a few months' time, we'll see who's in 10 Downing Street.

SESAY: Yeah, absolutely.

MONETTI: Because if Cameron loses this, he might be losing his future at Number 10.

VAUSE: The chair of the U.S. Federal Reserve, Janet Yellen, she put in a toe and just waded a little bit into the Brexit debate, issuing this morning.

MONETTI: Yeah.

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JANET YELLEN, CHAIRWOMAN, U.S. FEDERAL RESERVE: One development that could shift investors' sentiment is the upcoming referendum in the United Kingdom. The U.K. vote to exit the European Union could have significant economic repercussions.

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VAUSE: OK. So when she talks about significant economic repercussions, this is what people want to get sort of pinned down, nailed down, what specifically are they talking about.

[02:35:04] MONETTI: Exactly. Well, investors were looking to Ms. Yellen to really clarify this position. She didn't. She took a very cautious approach, which you can understand because there is so much uncertainty in the markets. I mean, the Federal Reserve will meet next week. There is an opportunity there to raise interest rates. It has been rumored that they would raise this month in the United States. But it's more likely that if there is going to be any raise they'll wait till the July meeting, which will take place after the June 23rd vote, so they can see what the impact of the Brexit vote has had on international markets. And all international financial markets are linked. That's why this decision will have ramifications far beyond Britain.

SESAY: So final question. OK. So obviously, there are the economic implications here but there are also political implications here. Are Brits really ready for Germany to dominate not just economically but politically also in Europe?

MONETTI: You see, that is such a slanted question.

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That is not actually the wording of the question on the vote.

VAUSE: Maybe they should put it that way.

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SESAY: Well, I'm talking about historical context here. And again, this comes to, do people understand -- MONETTI: People -- look, there are so many details to this because

basically the E.U. is made up of 28 countries and they rule so many little things, including cell phone prices, you know, across Europe. People are making their own decisions, how it affects them. And that's what a lot of people vote from. And it's going to be a fascinating vote to watch.

SESAY: It is.

VAUSE: You're our Brexit expert. Please come back.

MONETTI: Well, I'm half English, half Italian. I've got a foot in both camps.

VAUSE: Perfect.

Stay with us.

SESAY: Sandro Monetti, thank you.

VAUSE: Thank you.

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VAUSE: We'll take a short break. When we come back, one woman's letter to the man convicted of raping her is giving a voice to victims everywhere. But her attacker's sentence is also sparking outrage.

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[02:40:15] SESAY: Welcome back, everyone. Donald Trump is taking heat for his personal attacks on a federal judge. But the presumptive Republican presidential nominee is not backing down.

VAUSE: Kyung Lah tells us why some say he should know better.

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KYUNG LAH, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, John and Isha, by now many of us have heard Donald Trump attacking federal judges. But here's the irony. His sister is a federal judge.

(voice-over): You know this Trump. But you may not know this Trump, Donald's big sister, with an entirely much more private career.

MARYANNE TRUMP BARRY, JUNIOR JUDGE, U.S. CIRCUIT COURT OF APPEALS: It is critically important in a criminal case that there is discipline.

LAH: Meet federal judge, Maryanne Trump Barry, senior judge on the U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals, a distinguished decades-long legal career, who Donald Trump publicly admires, saying he called for advice during his campaign, even jokingly saying this last summer to Bloomberg television.

UNIDENTIFIED BLOOMBERG REPORTER: Might be a good Supreme Court -- DONALD TRUMP, (R), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE & CEO, TRUMP ORGANIZATION:

I think she would be phenomenal. I think she would be one of the best.

LAH: Which makes legal experts curious about Donald Trump's recent attacks on Judge Gonzalo Curiel, who is presiding over the Trump University case, to judges in general.

TRUMP: We're building a wall. He's a Mexican.

JAKE TAPPER, CNN CHIEF WASHINGTON CORRESPONDENT & CNN ANCHOR, THE LEAD: He's not from Mexico.

TRUMP: In my opinion --

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TAPPER: He's from Indiana. If it were a Muslim judge, would you also feel like they wouldn't treat you fairly?

TRUMP: It's possible, yes. Yeah, that would be possible. Absolutely.

LAH: Judicial independence, important to Trump's sister, Judge Trump Barry, known as smart, pragmatic and no nonsense, evident in this educational video for the Federal Judicial Center.

BARRY TRUMP: What you cannot do is stop the trial every time some bit of creative nonsense is presented to you. Your concern must be your court and doing the best job you can.

LAH: Given his sister's credentials, former federal judge, Vaughn Walker, says candidate Trump should know better than to attack a presiding judge.

VAUGHN WALKER, FORMER FEDERAL JUDGE: You would think that in the counsels of the family a little bit of what she does and how she conducts herself would have rubbed off on Mr. Trump, but apparently it hasn't done so.

LAH: Judge Walker knows all too well about personal attacks. In 2010, Walker ruled California's gay marriage ban was unconstitutional. Gay marriage opponents accused Walker of bias because he's gay. A higher court found that accusation unwarranted.

Judge Walker fears a President Trump would hurt the legal profession and the judicial system.

WALKER: Well, he certainly is proving himself to be ill-informed on the constitutional system, the separation of powers between the executive and the legislative and the judiciary. It's going to be hard, it seems to me, to bring him up to a basic understanding of these issues.

LAH (on camera): Judge Trump Barry was first nominated by President Reagan, then elevated on the bench by President Clinton. Bipartisan support. We did reach out to her for comment. She did not respond to our requests.

Kyung Lah, CNN, New York.

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VAUSE: Well, in the United States there's outrage over a rape case involving a former star athlete at Stanford University convicted of sexually assaulting an unconscious woman on campus.

SESAY: But it's the length of his sentence and the reaction to it that are now making the headlines.

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SESAY (voice-over): A terrible crime compounded by its aftermath. Outrage over a sentence some feel is too lenient.

The case highlighting questions of liability, punishment and American society's attitude toward sexual assault.

On Thursday, former Stanford student, Brock Turner, was sentenced to six months imprisonment after being convicted on three felony assault charges. The prosecution had sought a sentence of six years. The woman was unconscious at the time she was assaulted on the university campus. The incident occurred after a party during which both had consumed excessive amounts of alcohol. Turner will also be placed on the sex offenders register for life. His victim spoke out in a statement read at sentencing.

Earlier, CNN's Ashleigh Banfield read part of that statement on the "Legal View."

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ASHLEIGH BANFIELD, CNN ANCHOR, LEGAL VIEW: One day I was at work scrolling through the news on my phone and I came across an article. In it, I read and learned for the first time about how I was found unconscious with my hair disheveled, long necklace wrapped around my neck, bra pulled out of my dress, dress pulled off over my shoulders and pulled up above my waist, that I was butt naked all the way down to my boots, legs spread apart, and had been penetrated by a foreign object by someone I did not recognize. I learned what happened to me the same time everyone else in the world learned what happened to me.

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[02:45:09] SESAY: Brock Turner's father has further fueled anger surrounding the case, penning a letter to the judge in which he states, "His life will never be the one he dreamed about and worked so hard to achieve. That is a steep price to pay for 20 minutes of action out of his 20-plus years of life."

Social media reaction has been vitriolic, with many questioning why Turner's father would depict his son as a victim of the incident.

And the prosecution has also condemned the apparent leniency of the sentence. District attorney, Jeff Rosen, said, "The sentence does not factor in the true seriousness of the sexual assault or the victim's ongoing trauma. Campus rape is no different than off-campus rape. Rape is rape."

While Brock Turner denies he committed rape, his victim only became aware of the assault when she woke up in the hospital and was asked to sign papers marked "rape victim" before being allowed to shower.

(on camera): Stanford University has expressed regret over what happened, but in a statement claimed it had done everything in its power to ensure justice in the case.

(voice-over): "This was a horrible incident, and we understand the anger and deep emotion it has generated. There is still much work to be done not just here but everywhere to create a culture that does not tolerate sexual violence in any form and a judicial system that deals appropriately with sexual assault cases."

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SESAY: Truly shocking.

VAUSE: Everything about that story is pretty awful.

OK. A short break. We have an uplifting story when we come back. She's funny, talented and smart, but there is so much more to her story, and this talk show host has left millions of viewers speechless.

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[02:50:48] VAUSE: Hello, everyone. Now to an extraordinary story of smashing through barriers and confounding the experts. Carly Fleishman is a young woman with severe autism. The doctors call it non-verbal autism, which means she cannot speak in the traditional sense. But she has learned to communicate.

SESAY: And here comes the part which many will find astounding. Carly wants to be a talk show host. This woman with no voice has found hers. She interviewed one of Hollywood's biggest stars, Channing Tatum. The clip on YouTube has been watched now more than three million times.

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CARLY FLEISHMAN, TALK SHOW HOST DIAGNOSED WITH NON-VERBAL AUTISM (through translation): Which one of your actor friends would you forbid her from dating and why?

CHANNING TATUM, ACTOR: Oh, forbid.

FLEISHMAN (through translation): I'm asking because I want to know who to stay away from in Hollywood or who I should be running toward. Laugh out loud.

(LAUGHTER)

TATUM: This is so complicated to answer. It's so hard. Oh, man. I don't know. None of them. I wouldn't let her date any of them is the real answer.

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VAUSE: And Carly Fleishman is with us now from Toronto.

Carly, thank you for being with us.

First up, congratulations on that interview with Channing Tatum. Most people would think having non-verbal autism would be a problem if you want to do a talk show, but it wasn't for you.

FLEISHMAN (through translation): Thank you. I'm glad to be auditioning for your job. Laugh out loud.

(LAUGHTER)

VAUSE: I'd like to talk about your interview, though. I thought it was great. One of the really, really good things about it, you just went there with a lot of those questions like when you asked Channing about his days as a stripper. I want to play this sound bite from the interview.

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FLEISHMAN (through translation): I know you were a stripper growing up.

TATUM: Yes.

FLEISHMAN (through translation): How many girls at the end of your night would take you home?

(LAUGHTER)

TATUM: How many? At the end of one night? Some nights was more than others.

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VAUSE: Throughout this interview, you just really seemed to get him to open up. How did you do it?

FLEISHMAN (through translation): I had lots of fun doing it, and I hope Channing did as well. My whole life all I knew is challenges. People always used one word to define it. However, I have been diagnosed with auto motor apraxism, autism, and worst of all a chronic suffer of good-looking syndrome. Laugh out loud. My point being is like everyone else in the world, I have my own challenges I need to overcome. Having Channing watch me overcome my challenges also allowed me to let me into his world. VAUSE: Now, millions of people have watched this interview, and most

of the feedback has been essentially about your skills as an interviewer, what a great interview it was. Is that what you expected?

FLEISHMAN (through translation): Biggest shock to me was watching and reading articles about me. They all started off the same young lady with autism interviews Channing. But as I read more into the articles the label autism seems to be replaced with funny, talented, intellectual, smart, and even great reporter, Carly Fleischman. This made me realize for the first time that people didn't see me as a label. They saw me as a person.

VAUSE: Now, Channing Tatum, he's a pretty big get. He's a huge celebrity. Any talk show host would be pretty happy to have him. How did you land him for your show?

FLEISHMAN (through translation): I was told a good reporter never reveals her secrets, especially when it comes to how he or she has landed a great guest. So all I can say, unfortunately, I am going to have to remain speechless.

VAUSE: Fair enough. If you could interview anyone in the world right now, who would it be and why?

FLEISHMAN (through translation): It would be my dream to have an interview with singers like lady gaga or Billy Joel at a piano. But top three on my list would have to be Oprah and Ellen and at the same time talking about what makes a great talk show host. Taylor Swift, because I would love to know what's going on with her and boys. I can give her some tips. Laugh out loud. And finally, Barack Obama because who doesn't want to interview a president.

VAUSE: Exactly. Everyone would love to sit down with Barack Obama, especially given this election campaign.

FLEISHMAN (through translation): My dream is a big Internet industry leader such as Hulu, Netflix, Crave TV, Crackle or even Apple TV realize that a show like mine could be a game changer. Who knows? Maybe an Oprah or an Ellen DeGeneres would want to sign me like Usher did Justin Bieber. One can only hope. One piece of advice do you have for me about being a journalist?

[02:55:31] VAUSE: I think just be honest. Just be yourself. Be open and have fun.

FLEISHMAN (through translation): Thank you for your time.

VAUSE: Hey, and thank you. It's been wonderful speaking with you. And I wish you the very, very best of luck.

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SESAY: I think she's awesome.

VAUSE: She's fantastic. And we should explain to people, we gave her the questions ahead of

time because she has to type everything up. And then we managed to put together a really good interview. And she was fantastic.

SESAY: She's an inspiration to us all.

VAUSE: Yeah. Hasn't been able to say a word or communicate, rather, since she was 11. It's a great story.

And maybe it's not beyond the possibility --

SESAY: Absolutely.

VAUSE: -- that a Hulu or Apple TV or someone could bring it up.

SESAY: Keep dreaming, girl.

Thank you for watching CNN NEWSROOM, live from Los Angeles. I'm Isha Sesay.

VAUSE: I'm John Vause.

Stay with us. Amara Walker is up next in Atlanta for another hour of news on CNN NEWSROOM, after a quick break.

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