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Aired June 10, 2016 - 01:00 ET
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[01:00:03] ISHA SESAY, CNN ANCHOR: This is CNN NEWSROOM, live from Los Angeles.
JOHN VAUSE, CNN ANCHOR: Ahead this hour the push for party unity is now a whole lot easier for Hillary Clinton. The Democrat heavy hitters coming out and support of their presumptive presidential nominee.
SESAY: Plus, the Euro Championships are start to kick of in France with security fears and labor -- present to overshadow the action on the pitch.
VAUSE: And later this hour, teenager is the victim of crime in Pakistan, we'll tell you about the lie that led to her down.
SESAY: Hello and thank you for joining us. I'm Isha Sesay.
VAUSE: And I'm John Vause. Another hour for NEWSROOM L.A. starts right now.
VAUSE: Say a good week for Hillary Clinton. She's on the roll just days after locking up the Democratic presidential nomination. Now she has three of her biggest endorsements today.
SESAY: U.S. President Barack Obama, Vice President Joe Biden, and key Democratic Senator Elizabeth Warren are endorsing her. Here's our Jeff Zeleny with more.
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BARACK OBAMA, UNITED STATES OF AMERICA PRESIDENT: I want to congratulate Hillary Clinton on making history.
JEFF ZELENY, CNN SENIOR WASHINGTON CORRESPONDENT: On the sidelines no more, President Obama offering a full-throated endorsement of Hillary Clinton.
OBAMA: In fact, I don't think there's even been someone so qualified to hold this office. And I'm with her, I am fired up and I cannot wait to get out there and campaign for Hillary.
ZELENY: Hillary Clinton welcoming the news on Twitter. Writing, "honored to have you with us, POTUS, I'm fired up and ready to go."
Democrats falling in line quickly. United around the idea of stopping Donald Trump. The President's blessing coming just hours after meeting with Bernie Sanders today in the Oval Office. The visit included a walk along the White House Colonnade. A courtesy normally afforded to visiting head of state.
SEN. BERNIE SANDERS, (I-VT) DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: Let me begin by thanking President Obama, and thanking Vice President Biden, for the degree of impartiality they established during the course of this entire process.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Senator, welcome back.
ZELENY: Sanders returned to a place democratic leaders want him, back on Capitol Hill. Meeting with Senate democratic leader, Harry Reid and others.
SEN. HARRY REID (D-NV), DEMOCRATIC LEADER: I don't think Bernie Sanders holding out for anything, he is -- I think he is somebody who is interested in changing the direction of the country.
ZELENY: It was a day long sign of respect and leverage for Sanders, after winning 22 states and aggressively challenging Clinton. Sanders didn't directly address plans to suspend his campaign, but did signaled he's ready to unite democrats against the presumptive republican nominee.
SANDERS: Needless to say, I am going to do everything in my power and I will work as hard as I can to make sure that Donald Trump does not become president of the United States.
ZELENY: Trump also taking it all in. Tweeting "Obama just endorsed crooked Hillary, he wants four more years of Obama, but nobody else does." Clinton firing back, "Delete your account."
Rivals for a year, Sanders and Clinton will soon come together.
SANDERS: I look forward to meeting with her in the near future.
ZELENY: Clinton wants and needs his help. Particularly firing up voters as he did across the country.
HILLARY CLINTON, (D) PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: I'm looking forward to working with him to achieve our common goal, which is to defeat Donald Trump. And Senator Sanders has said that he'll work every day, every week, to see that happen.
ZELENY: Now, Sanders has stopped short of an endorsement, but it's likely he will meet with Clinton soon and will get behind her candidacy. The question is whether all of his supporters who have spent the last year looking for an alternative to Clinton will take their cue from Sanders or go their own way.
Jeff Zeleny, CNN, Washington.
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VAUSE: For more, CNN's senior political analyst and senior editor for "The Atlantic," Ron Brownstein, is with us now.
Ron, let's talk about President Obama's endorsement.
RON BROWNSTEIN, CNN SENIOR POLITICAL ANALYST: Yeah.
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VAUSE: He recorded it two days ago.
BROWNSTEIN: Yup.
VAUSE: Because he want the tie.
BROWNSTEIN: Oh yeah, oh yeah.
VAUSE: (Inaudible) on Tuesday. So it was slickly produced. So clearly, you know, this is in the works and something that Obama has been wanting to do for a while.
BROWNSTEIN: It felt that way, right? It felt like he was waiting to do this and kind of waiting for the final days of major primaries. Hillary Clinton emerges from the primaries with a 3.7 million vote lead in the popular vote among the Democrats in all the primaries and caucuses.
And I was struck in this statement from the president how much he emphasized how tough the job was and how prepared she was. Because Democrats certainly see the contrast in temperament and experience as one of the core assets from Hillary Clinton in this campaign, kind of the offset to the desire for change and the sense that she might represent more of the status quo than Donald Trump, who certain -- if nothing else, he is change.
SESAY: The president eager to get out on the campaign trail.
BROWNSTEIN: Yes.
SESAY: Talk to us what he brings to this race.
BROWNSTEIN: Well, the first thing he brings, you know, whether or not -- however close or far away the nominee runs from the incumbent president, the incumbent president is on the ballot with him. You know, if look, 1988 is Ronald Reagan, 88 percent of the people who disapproved of Ronald Reagan voted Democrat 1988. In 2000, 88 percent of the people who disagreed with Bill Clinton, voted Republican. 2008, about two- thirds of people who disapproved of Bush voted for Obama.
He is on the ballot no matter what. And the most important that you can do for her is something he's already doing. He's approval rating is rising over 50 percent makes a tough. The other thing he can do of course if rally his coalition, particularly young people and African- Americans. And he has, you know, as I was at the White House correspondent than here, when he went after Donald Trump. I don't think you're going to have to twist his arm to get him out in this campaign trail.
VAUSE: OK. We also heard from Elizabeth Warren. This is a very big endorsement for Hillary Clinton. Listen to this.
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SEN. ELIZABETH WARREN (D), MASS.: I am ready to get in this fight and work my heart out for Hillary Clinton to become the next president of the United States and to make sure that Donald Trump never get any place close to the White House.
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VAUSE: OK, Senator Warren, she seen as a leader. I guess the leader.
BROWNSTEIN: Yeah.
VAUSE: Before Bernie Sanders came along those progressive sides of the party. So having the endorsement of Senator Warren now, how does that help and bringing, you know, Bernie Sanders supporters on default.
BROWNSTEIN: You know, we're only couple of blocks from Hollywood Boulevard. I mean, doesn't that feel like an audition.
VAUSE: Exactly, yeah.
BROWNSTEIN: Yeah, I mean, you know. Look, she is someone who is, you know, started off this race held an even higher steamed than Bernie Sanders among the progressive forces in the party. I mean, there is no one better suited to make the case for Hillary Clinton to the left or they act as bridge between Hillary Clinton and rest.
And I was struck by reading the story a couple of days ago that Harry Reid, the Senate Majority Leader has two mission a legal analysis of the succession law in Massachusetts because one of the strikes or one of the impediments to picking Elizabeth Warren for that matter Sharon Brown is also popular unless or Cory Booker who has great personal chemistry with Hillary Clinton when they campaign together the African American Senator from New Jersey.
In each case there's a Republican governor, in those states. So if you pick them and you win, you would lose the Senate seat which obviously could be critical and it becomes 50-50, but with the analysis found as the Massachusetts is a very tight requirement on the governor. To hold the special election or replace the Senator relatively quickly and the analysis gave you the feeling that Elizabeth Warren maybe Harry Reid's choice in this competition.
SESAY: The seat I sign, if you pick her as the V.P, do you lose that vital attack the role that she's been playing as well? Is that go away? BROWNSTEIN: No, I think I know amplify it, right? Because the vice president will get more attention than any individual senator. And she is certainly showing enormous willingness and the ability to get into Donald Trump skin, because as he responded by calling her Pocahontas.
Again, showing the kind of racial insensitivity is a problem, not only with minority voters but with college educated wise. And at the same time we went to get in mind. Mitt Romney won 59 percent of white voters and he lost by 5 million votes.
Donald Trump has to improve among white voters. And he have to do so while losing round among the college educated by voters. That was a lot of burden on that one slice electric those blue collar whites where he run best.
VAUSE: We get to the motive. But also say Bernie Sanders on the Democrat side he meet with President Obama. He came very close. You can see any. But then about I think (inaudible) he was backout the campaign. Listen to this.
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SANDERS: And what the punditry thought is that this campaign would not go very far. Well, here we are in mid-June, and we are still standing. And we are standing after having won 22 states, and the results have not yet come in from California.
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VAUSE: Bit a disappointment. Can you almost see the collective side ...
BROWNSTEIN: Yeah.
VAUSE: ... of the Democratic establishment.
BROWNSTEIN: Sure. I mean, he like attainable position because on the one hand he already from the beginning that super delegates are inherently on Democratic. But now, if he does somehow want to continue, the only way he can continue is to have the super delegates overturn a very clear verdict on part of the voters worth nothing in the end after California and the final days of primaries. She beat him by 3.7 million votes in the popular vote and all the primaries and caucuses.
There were 15 states in which she beat him by a larger margin than he beat her in any states. So for him now to kind of innovation say look, super delegates should come in and somehow overturn this. I don't think Bernie Sanders an sustain it argument for a month, or is going to one to sustain that argument for a month.
SESAY: In this way quickly just to reflect on his day today in D.C. it was quick a victory lap.
BROWNSTEIN: Yes. I mean look, it was extraordinary what he did, right? I mean, he went for. I mean even though she beat him pretty soundly in the end. He got further than anyone expected. He won a higher share of young people than Barack Obama did in 2008. He revolutionized small dollar fundraising. He change the ideological trajectory the Democratic Party without question kind of consolidating this increasingly liberal core coalition. He has a big impact, but he lost.
VAUSE: OK. When it gets to Donald Trump now because he did mention the fact that Donald Trump is don't look down in the strategy upon mobilized white voters.
BROWNSTEIN: Yeah.
VAUSE: So there some polling which been done by the Washington Post. And I compared Mitt Romney in 2012 in the states that he lost and with Donald Trump and because of demographic changes.
[01:10:07] So let's look at Ohio -- to start here. In 2012 Romney got 55 percent of the white working class vote. Trump will need 58 percent to win that state. That's demographic changes.
But, if he loses the vote among Hispanics and college whites, that then goes up to 61 percent. If we don't move on to Florida, for Romney back in 2012, it was 64 percent, Trump on a 67, but if he losses the poll, it's up to 72 percent. And then Pennsylvania, again, Romney lost that state with 56 percent of the working class white votes. Trump needs 61 percent of the white working class vote if he is to win that, and of course, if he losses the 40, that then goes up to 64 ...
BROWNSTEIN: Right.
VAUSE: ... percent. They seem to be -- and these numbers are across the (inaudible) a lot of sites, they go way up.
BROWNSTEIN: Well, it does, right.
So, basically, you know, as I said before, Mitt Romney won a higher share of white voters and Ronald Reagan did in 1980 and he lost by 5 million votes. If you just kind of -- if you hold everything else constant, the minority shares of vote has increased on average two points every four years.
So, if Donald Trump doesn't lose any ground with minority voters, he's going to have to do better with whites even than Romney did, first of all, Romney to catch up and then to account for the demographic change. But as the post analysis points out, he may have to do that in effect that one hand tie behind his back because he got the risk that the same racially polarizing rhetoric that drives away minority voters and could lead to a deterioration of the support among minority votes also makes it tougher for him with a lot of college educated whites, who simply view that as kind of an unacceptable kind of discourse from a potential president and who basically do accept the idea that American -- America is becoming a more diverse tolerant and inclusive country. So, if Donald Trump may be in a situation and polling suggesting is in
a situation where he has to improve his overall vote among whites while potentially losing ground relative to Romney among the upscale white collar whites, that requires you to have truly heroic games as the post analysis shows among that last third of the electorate from college voters, but what's a noting, blue collar whites, white collar whites and non-whites minorities will probably be something like one third, one third, one third of the voters.
SESAY: It also requires you to have some poll campaign organizations and ...
BROWNSTEIN: Yes. To find them and mobilize them and none of that, none of that is happening. He does not have that. I mean, they have built, you know, kind of the campaign of celebrity and media and he has dominated the media in a way that, you know, we haven't seen anyone do.
But, you know, that's already changed, right? I mean, the general election feels different in the primary. In the primary, he was in control of the story all of the time and in general election, he has been kind of on the back foot, right? I mean, quite a bit.
VAUSE: Yeah, including lits (ph) from his campaign, which is -- and seen in the primary as well.
SESAY: On fundraising questions ...
VAUSE: Yeah.
SESAY: ... somebody coming in, you know. Ron Brownstein, always a pleasure.
BROWNSTEIN: Thank you.
VAUSE: And we have much more ahead of us. Ron, thank you.
SESAY: All right. Now, the UEFA 2016 Football Championship kicks off in the coming hours and security feds and labor unrest in France, demonstrates this face-off with police in the western part of the country on Thursday. The protester are among thousands who oppose new labor laws that make it easier to fire employees and reduce overtime pay.
VAUSE: The strikes also involve garbage workers in Paris where trash is piling up, walkouts have also hit public transportation closing up the roads.
SESAY: Well, if all that one is enough, suspected terrorism times of the year in 2016, France says, it's deployed many, a hundred thousand security forces for the championship and declared no-fly zone over stadium.
VAUSE: Cafe owners have also been told not to host large outdoor gatherings or TV broadcasts, this after a suspect in the Brussels terror attacks claimed himself wanted to target this tournament, (inaudible) were killed in last year's terror attacks in Paris.
SESAY: Well, for more, we're joined by CNN Law Enforcement Contributor, Steve Moore, was also a former special agent for the FBI.
Steve, good to have you with us once again. I mean, looking at this, in the undertaking that the French authorities face, this is a month- long tournament across multiple cities, multiple venues. When you look at the security plan as we know it, we're talking about a hundred thousand officers on the street, had they got it right, is it structured the right way in your view, the security arrangements?
STEVE MOORE, CNN LAW ENFORCEMENT CONTRIBUTOR: Well, I don't know all of the arrangements they have, so I can't give you a critique on everything. But if they have followed the standard plan that's been in effect for the past four or five years, then they're doing what they can and that's the important thing. We won't know if it's enough until after the events.
VAUSE: Steve, one of the issues going on in Paris right now, talking more of a, you know, the terror threat, is this industrialized action police being deployed because of these protests on the streets, is that just another layer of complication in all of these?
MOORE: Absolutely. This is going to draw away resources. This is going to cause complications in the security plan and actually give the terrorist or potential terrorist just a little bit more options in how to disrupt or plan an attack.
[01:15:01] SESAY: Obviously, at a time like this, when multiple agencies involve multiple departments, getting that intelligence, analyzing it quickly, sharing it quickly is going to be a key.
MOORE: It is. And, they'll have the equivalent of our regional intelligence centers. They're going to have large center square, people from all different agencies are going to be participating, and the amount of electronic surveillance it's going to go on from cellphones to facial recognition, to cameras everywhere, is going to be monumental and they will be picking up that information in real- time basis and be able to deploy forces in those areas where there's some suspicion.
VAUSE: And so what you just tell our viewers, while you're talking, we showed some images of a security drill which was held in Lyon on Tuesday. So, in case anybody was wondering.
You know, one of the biggest concerns for the security officials there in France are these fan zones, with one French security source told The Independent newspaper this, "It as if we have created 10 open-air Bataclans and invited the jihadists to their worst." That's a reference to the concert hall where 90 people were killed last November during the Paris terrorist attacks.
But the officials are saying, "Look, you know, it's a better arrangement to try and get everybody into the one place where it's relatively safe as opposed to having a whole lot of people running the streets on Paris. So, where do you stand on this? MOORE: Well, I agree with the philosophy. Yes, it would be better to
have everybody all in one place and, you know, build a castle around it and things like that but that is not how the world works, especially when you're talking venues in so many different cities, this is something where you just can't do that. It's untenable. We are -- and France is a western society, a free society and they don't have the options that countries like China, as we discussed earlier, have in securing the events and the venues.
VAUSE: OK. Well, 30 days, it will be on edge and we'll know if it's a success at the end of the 30 days.
Steve, thank you.
SESAY: Steve, appreciate it. Thank you.
MOORE: Thanks a lot.
SESAY: Time for a quick break now. Next on NEWSROOM L.A., Israel forces have closed off West Bank City as they search for answers in a deadly mass shooting.
VAUSE: Also ahead, a young woman who police say was murdered by her own family is laid to rest. You'll hear from the victim's husband, after this.
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VAUSE: Welcome back, everybody. We've got Israel now, where officials are denying entry to more than 80,000 Palestinians, a response to Wednesday's deadly shooting at a Tel Aviv market, and that includes Ramadan and family visits.
Meantime, Israelic forces have closed off the West Bank City of Yatta, they're conducting door to door searches as well as entities looking for clues.
SESAY: Also says a hundreds attended the funeral for Ido Ben Ari, one of the shooting victims. The attack has killed four people and wounded a dozen others.
VAUSE: For the very latest, let's go to Phil Black live in Jerusalem.
So, Phil, what more do you know about this Israelite response and especially the military response in the West Bank?
PHIL BLACK, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, John, at the moment, a travel for Palestinians between the West Bank and the Gaza Strip, the Palestinian territories and Israel is effectively closed off.
The Israeli government has suspended all the permits, some 80,000 or so that would normally allow them to travel to Israel for work, family, religious reasons and so forth.
So, the Israeli military has -- is enforcing that. It's unclear how long that's going to last full (ph) at this stage.
One important qualification they said, Palestinians who would come to Jerusalem to pray for Friday prayers at the Al-Aqsa Mosque, that very holy sign for Muslims, will be allowed to do so today.
And you mentioned the town of Yatta, that is the town that has really been the focus of the Israeli military responses, the attack in Tel Aviv, that's where extensive searches and some arrests were carried out on the night of the attacks themselves.
And where now, the Israeli military has really drawn a security ring around the town preventing people from coming and going by cars. What we saw in there when we went in yesterday is the people are still allowed to walk in and out, but there is something of a blockade at that town of 120,000 people. So it is no surprise that when we were there, people were saying they felt that they were all being punished because of the actions of these two gunmen.
John.
VAUSE: And Phil, there are some new details, I mean, extraordinary details about how one of the gunmen was actually captured.
BLACK: This video from the night shows this incredibly panic scenes of people in this restaurant and cafes this running for their lives, terrified, clearly. But it turns out that a group of them sought shelter in a nearby home. A group of strangers simply run into this house, trying to the find protection there. It was the home of an off-duty police officer who then went down to the scene of the shooting, saw where one of the gunmen, had been shot her and injured, saw how he was dressed and realized there was now a man in his home dressed in a very similar way, wearing a very similar suit.
That man was arrested, it turns out that he was the second gunman. Important to note that he was not armed while he was seeking shelter in that home surrounded by other people. John.
VAUSE: OK. Phil, incredible, thank you. Phil Black live in Jerusalem.
SESAY: Now, another victim of a brutal brand of tribal punishment has been buried in Pakistan. Yet another woman mercilessly killed by members of her own family according to police.
VAUSE: And apparently, because the family decided she brought dishonor upon them.
CNN Clarissa Ward has gone on this chilling case, which began with young love.
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CLARISSA WARD, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: 18-year-old Zeenat Rafiq burned to death by her mother and brother simply for marrying a man against her family's wishes.
It's the latest horrific example of a so-called honor killing in Pakistan. Hassan Khan, the victim's 19-year-old husband, buried his bride early Thursday after her own family refused to claim the body.
[01:25:01] Khan says they had dated secretly for five years, but Rafiq feared her family would kill her if they knew. So a little less than two weeks ago, the couple eloped and moved away.
Then, this week, Rafiq returned to her family home in Lahore. Khan tells CNN his wife was led to believe the family wanted a reconciliation, and that she was promised no harm would come to her.
HASSAN KHAN, ZEENAT RAFIQ'S HUSBAND (through translation): Her cousin gave the guarantee that nothing would happen to her. We were not sending her otherwise.
WARD: But there was no homecoming. Instead, police say Rafiq's mother and brother tied her down, poured gasoline over her, and set her on fire.
According to CNN affiliate, Geo News, an autopsy shows Rafiq had been strangled, but was still alive when she was set ablaze. Afterwards, witnesses say the victim's mother, Harvein (ph) Rafiq, ran into the street shouting that she had killed her daughter. She is now in police custody. Authorities say she has expressed no remorse.
KHAN (through translation): She was supposed to come home today. They killed her a day before. We went to her house and her burnt body was lying on the stairs.
WARD: Khan and his family say they were devastated. His mother tells CNN Rafiq was like a daughter to her.
SHAHIDA KHAN, MOTHER-IN-LAW OF VICTIM (through translation): There should be justice. How could they be so heartless and kill this girl? She was our child now. She had married our son.
WARD: Sadly, this is only the latest in a long list of honor murders. More than 1,000 women were killed by family members in Pakistan last year alone, according to the country's independent Human Rights Commission. An activist say while progress has been made, a lot more still needs to change.
NAZISH BROHI, SOCIAL RESEARCHER & ANALYST: The problem is that the entire prosecution system of the country is a mess. And that's as true of honor killings as it is on cases of terrorism.
WARD: Pakistan's prime minister has condemned these brutal crimes in the past, but so far, his government has taken no new actions to stop the killing.
Clarissa Ward, CNN, London.
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[01:30:28] VAUSE: Welcome back, everybody. You're watching CNN NEWSROOM, live in Los Angeles. I'm John Vause.
SESAY: And I'm Isha Sesay.
The headlines this hour --
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VAUSE: The debate is heating up to leave or stay in the European Union. In two weeks, the U.K. will vote on what's seen as the biggest decision they face in decades.
SESAY: Campaigners on both sides feel very strongly, something they displayed on Thursday.
CNN International diplomatic editor, Nic Robertson, has all the details.
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NIC ROBERTSON, CNN INTERNATIONAL DIPLOMATIC EDITOR: This is the first time the Leave and Remain campaigns have gone face to face. It was feisty. It was fiery. And Boris Johnson came in for criticism, a common criticism that he is really in this just running for the prime minister's office, David Cameron's job.
NICOLA STURGEON, FIRST MINISTER OF SCOTLAND, SCOTTISH NATIONAL PARTY: Johnson is asking people to trust his word. He's making claims and vote the way you want him to vote. I'm simply asking him if he's telling the truth tonight about the protection of what, was he not telling the truth when he said he wanted to get rid --
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BORIS JOHNSON, FORMER LONDON MAYOR: I'd say --
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STURGEON: The thing is, Johnson is not --
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STURGEON: This election is only interest in David Cameron's job.
ROBERTSON: That issue came up a couple times and did get laughs from the audience. But Boris Johnson coming back strong. His message, take back control from the European Union, take control on migration, taxation. And he says Britain spends half a billion dollars a week, paid to the European Union. Get out of the European Union, get that money, and spend it on services like health service in Britain.
Now the Remain campaign, Nicola Sturgeon, saying that is a lie. That figure, of course, painted on the side of Boris Johnson's referendum bus. JOHNSON: I'm very struck by the way they do this because there's a
member of that panel whose complained about the Remain campaign and said it's miserable, negative and fear based, and fear based campaigning of this kind starts to insult people's intelligence. Now, that was Nicola Sturgeon.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Nicola Sturgeon.
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STURGEON: I have to say --
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STURGEON: Well, let me respond.
JOHNSON: I agree with that.
STURGEON: At least it's not driving around the country in a bus with a giant whopper painted over the side --
JOHNSON: It's not.
STURGEON: -- of that bus.
ROBERTSON: Across the whole two hours of the debate, there were points scored by both sides, there were laughs from the audience, both sides seemed to win some support on some issues. But one lady in the audience asked, how should we be able to trust you. She said both of you, both sides, you are trying to shout and get the great sound byte. It wasn't clear whether one side landed a knockout blow. It didn't seem to be that way. It's not clear how many people's minds they persuaded. But this is by far the most feisty debate so far.
Nic Robertson, CNN, London.
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VAUSE: As the British chose their sides in the Brexit debates, so, too, it seems, are the country's largest newspapers.
Oliver Duff is the editor of the British newspaper, "I." He joins us live from London.
Oliver, thank you for joining us.
Let's start with one study, which looks at this bias in reporting. They looked at 928 articles focusing on the referendum. 45 percent in favor of leading. 27 percent in favor of staying. 19 percent mix or undecided and 9 percent had no position at all. So what's behind the coverage here? Is it ideologically driven or commercially driven?
OLIVER DUFF, EDITOR, THE INDEPENDENT: It's ideologically driven. If it were commercially driven, there's such a push from business in Britain generally, not all of them, but most of them. There is such a push from business to say let's stay in the E.U. If it was only commercial, it would be very clear which ways the newspapers were going.
But we've got a situation here where you have hysterical politicians, biased media coverage and noisy business executives and foreign leaders all telling people, you know, how to vote, and it's no wonder the British publish is getting quite hacked off with some of the referendum campaign.
[01:35:33] VAUSE: Hacked off, indeed. Let's look at some of the alarmist headlines. We got one from "The Mirror." "The Brexit could trigger World War III." Or this from the "Daily Mail," "Brexit will ruin the U.K. for decades, cost every family $4,300 pounds." And then one of the most controversial front-page stories came from "The Sun, "Queen backs Brexit."
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The palace complained about that one, releasing this statement, "The queen remains politically neutral as she has for 63 years. The referendum will be a matter for the British people."
You're saying that people are being hacked off about this coverage but how does this go into their decision-making process here?
DUFF: Well, there's plenty of people still undecided, you know. I think they want information, not propaganda, and it shouldn't be a controversial opinion. It's one reason we're running a series of front pages this week. We hopefully have a positive message, saying less hysteria, more facts. The media won't decide this vote, big business won't decide this vote, you decide. We're telling readers this.
You're right, if you listen to the Remaining, they say that if we leave the E.U., it will be ruined, World War III, genocide. If you listen to the Leave camp, they say, if we stay, you'll have migrants swimming the English Channel, the E.U. will want to turn us into a super state like Hitler, and the E.U. wants to our ban toasters. This is not the most rational debate around the fringes.
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SESAY: I got to say you're trying to find the economic impact of a Brexit. It's like going down a rabbit whole. You get a different scenario depending on the newspaper. Isn't there a tradition in Britain of newspapers actually taking a particular side, of having an editorial stand? Not the same as the independents you have in the United States, for example.
DUFF: That's very true. For me, as the editor of the "I" paper, I see an opportunity. We are the only paper with no ax to grind, except "The Times," I should say, out of fairness. Rupert Murdoch, their coverage is being slightly well balanced, but the other papers, yes, you have five big papers coming out for leave. You've got the "Telegraph," "Mail," "Sun," "Star," "Express." And on the other side, "The Financial Times," "The Guardian" and "The Mirror." And really, for us, we see it as an important role we have there. Obviously, it's an opportunity for us, as a paper, to make great stock out of the fact we don't try to tell readers how to think. There shouldn't be a controversial opinion. Just give them the facts and let them make up their own mind.
VAUSE: You're a revolutionary, Oliver.
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VAUSE: Oliver Duff, appreciate you coming in. Thank you so much.
DUFF: Thank you.
SESAY: Fascinating.
VAUSE: Difficult to actually get proper unbiased information.
SESAY: Certainly is.
We'll take a quick break here. A silent protest against sexual assault. Coming up, what all this underwear represents and why it's on Rio's most famous beach.
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[01:41:48] SESAY: Hello, everyone. The World Health Organization wants couples living in Zika hot spots to delay getting pregnant but did not say how long. Guidance was meant to clarify the language WHO released last week.
VAUSE: Not helpful. Zika Virus has been linked to birth defects in newborns. And WHO says couples returning from Zika-affected areas should wait eight weeks to conceive, even if they don't have symptoms. There are at least 50 countries in Latin America and the Caribbean where Zika is circulating.
SESAY: Protesters laid out hundreds of pairs of red and white women's underwear on Rio's famed Copacabana Beach the call attention to Brazil's rape crisis. The 420 pieces symbolize the number of women raped every three days in Brazil.
VAUSE: This comes after a gang raped a 16-year-old girl, raped by more than 30 men. Organizers also mounted photographs of women with red hand prints on their mouth, from an exhibition called "I Will Never Be Silenced."
SESAY: The group behind the Copacabana Beach protest is Rio de Paz. Fernanda Valen Martia (ph) is one of their campaign coordinator. She joins us from Brazil.
Fernanda (ph), thank you for being with us.
Those photographs of the women marked by red hand prints over their mouths and the sight of hundreds of pairs of underwear scattered on the beach is incredibly powerful. But beyond shocking people, what are they trying to achieve with this campaign? FERNANDA VALEN MARTIA (ph), CAMPAIGN COORDINATOR, RIO DE PAZ: Oh,
Isha, thank you for the opportunity to talk with you and to talk with everybody that works at CNN at this moment. We have a triple objective, maybe four objectives. The first one is denounced to the word the very serious situation that we have here in Brazil. We are in a dishonest culture. We have 420 women being raped even each 22 hours. It is a very huge number of violence against women. Our protests, we are trying to combat it. We are asking the government to come back, to implantation of public policies to the communities to the women on this country. They are the most exposed and vulnerable to violence and with demand, drama and psychological help for these women.
SESAY: As you laid out and you give us some insight into the scale of rape in Brazil, it is truly, truly horrifying but help me understand why it was this one case involving this 16-year-old that seemed to galvanize the nation and bring people out onto the streets.
VALEN MARTIA (ph): Well, Isha, it was terrifying. This case was terrifying but it was not the only one. We live under a rape culture here in Brazil at the same time this girl was being raped in Rio and another teenager, 15-year-old ultimately died because of the hurt she suffered. She was being raped in a province by five men. It is very serious, the situation here in Brazil. And we are about to promote Olympic Games on this country that's an impossible situation for us and for the tourists.
[01:45:29] SESAY: You saying the tourists should be afraid to come to Brazil because of what you've described as a rape culture?
VALEN MARTIA (ph): Yes, they should be afraid. Recently here a British tourist was raped inside a camp. It is, as I'm saying to you, we live under a dishonest culture here in Brazil. They should concern about coming to Olympic Games to reflect about the serious problem.
SESAY: Have you received any indication from the government that they will change the way they tackle this issue in light of what happened to this 16-year-old?
VALEN MARTIA (ph): Look, this case brings a lot of things to the surface. The Congress now is about to public out law that will double the time in prison for the criminals that commit rape. It is not enough because the criminals, they know that the time they will be arrested is very long but also, they know, too, that they will never be caught by the police. The police, they don't catch these criminals. Maybe they gather few of them, but the laws are -- they don't have enough strength to keep them in prison.
SESAY: We wish you all the strength and we wish you the very best of luck with your efforts to continue to shine the light on this horrific crime and prevalence there in Brazil.
Thank you so much.
VALEN MARTIA (ph): Thank you, Isha. Thank you everybody that is watching us. Thank you a lot. VAUSE: Wow. OK.
A short break here. When we come back, changing your password to stay one step ahead of hackers. It's a pain, but it could be worse. Just ask 32 million Twitter users.
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[01:51:21] VAUSE: Looks like North Korea showing supreme leader has been sneaking out for a few ciggies. Look at this picture --
SESAY: Sounds like someone else I know.
VAUSE: -- published this week. It shows Kim Jong-Un smoking a cigarette as Korea is doing an anti smoking drive.
SESAY: State media announced the campaign in May. Many North Koreans have kicked the habit after seeing anti smoking ads.
VAUSE: There we go.
Moving on. Could your Twitter password be for sale on the dark web? 30 million are right now.
SESAY: Security company, Leaked Source, says it verified the stolen account information is for real. Malware installed on browsers apparently sent passwords, e-mail addresses and user names to hackers.
VAUSE: Didn't help most of the current passwords were one, two, three, four, five six.
And here to talk about that with Gordon Ross, president and CEO and manager, Virtual Perceptions Systems.
Ross, let's start with the actual hack itself. Twitter says they are confident they weren't hacked but rather Twitter users were hacked by malware. Can you blame Twitter for this?
GORDON ROSS, PRESIDENT, CEO AND MANAGER, VIRTUAL PERCEPTIONS SYSTEMS: It's not per se Twitter's fault. They are the victim and like piling on Twitter what more could go wrong. They are not winning any war in any way. This is a byproduct of Google and that's the thing the way that it's an open source on chrome and easy for you to make a mistake and have malware on your chrome and also a mistake in the users who use the same passwords on sites like Expedia and don't really offer any security as they do in banking. Really important you have different passwords, as much of a pain as it is.
SESAY: You talk about malware being responsible. Is it instigated by someone?
ROSS: Yeah, it's a Russian hackers. There are guys that try to find and exploit problems in the Internet and they sell passwords to other people. Bit Coin, the currency of crime. What happens is that it's a business. Other businesses actually buy your e-mails and passwords all the time and this can -- you can do this right now for $5,000, you can have all 32.
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VAUSE: This hack revealed the most common passwords are one, two, three, four, five, six. Another one, one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, qwerty --
SESAY: Querty?
VAUSE: Querty, Q-U-E-R-T-Y, and password.
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ROSS: Those are actually all my base words.
VAUSE: Did we learn nothing from "Space Balls? Watch this.
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UNIDENTIFIED ACTOR: No. Wait, wait. I'll tell. I'll tell.
UNIDENTIFIED ACTOR: I knew it would work. All right. Give it to me.
UNIDENTIFIED ACTOR: The combination is one.
UNIDENTIFIED ACTOR: One.
UNIDENTIFIED ACTOR: One.
UNIDENTIFIED ACTOR: Two.
UNIDENTIFIED ACTOR: Two.
UNIDENTIFIED ACTOR: Three.
UNIDENTIFIED ACTOR: Three.
UNIDENTIFIED ACTOR: Four.
UNIDENTIFIED ACTOR: Four.
UNIDENTIFIED ACTOR: Five.
UNIDENTIFIED ACTOR: Five.
UNIDENTIFIED ACTOR: So the combination is one, two, three, four, five.
UNIDENTIFIED ACTOR: That's the stupidest combination I ever heard on my life. That's the kind of thing an idiot would have on his luggage.
(END VIDEO CLIP) VAUSE: And it is. So why don't people learn? Why do they keep doing this stuff over and over again?
ROSS: Convenience. Our brains don't really work like, you know, we're going to come up with 17 password variations.
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VAUSE: Like you, Isha.
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ROSS: We figured out her password very easily.
SESAY: I'm struggling.
ROSS: But I talk about people using variations and capitols and under-case and throwing a number or weird thing in your typical past word but really about mixing it up. And good security is really smart. We live in an Internet world and use a little time and common sense when you think about passwords. If you're single, as long as I was, you get used to changing passwords and things like that.
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ROSS: I'm really good at security.
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[01:55:23] SESAY: Yeah, exactly.
I know, as you say, this is not Twitter's fault and everyone is piling on but the last thing they need. Things don't look good for them.
ROSS: That's part of the attack. The attack is at Twitter and I don't think that's coincidental. Twitter has a very controversial place in the marketplace and there is a lot of fighting over the Twitter -- where it should be and where it's going. This is an attempt to hurt Twitter and that's what it is.
VAUSE: OK. One, two, three, four, five, six, Isha Sesay.
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SESAY: Go on, go on. I can't even remember mine.
VAUSE: Ross, thanks for being here.
ROSS: Good to see you guys as well.
SESAY: All right. You're watching CNN NEWSROOM, live from Los Angeles. I'm Isha Sesay.
VAUSE: I'm John Vause. We're back with another hour of news after this.
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