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[11:00:49] MATTHEW CHANCE, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: This is a thug's eye view of the violence that's marred Euro 2016.
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BECKY ANDERSON, HOST: Spotlight on and off the pitch, how hooliganism is threatening to tarnish the beautiful game at Euro 2016. A live report from
the Russia/Slovakia match is up next.
Plus, we will cross to our correspondent in Moscow for the Kremlin's reaction.
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ROUX: The accuser has punished himself and will punish himself for the rest of his life far more than any court of law can punish him.
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ANDERSON: Another emotional day at the sentencing hearing for convicted killer Oscar Pistorius. We'll bring you the very latest from the courtroom
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ANDERSON COOPER, CNN ANCHOR: Where does your strength come from? I mean, you're smiling, you're able to talk about your son. I think there's a lot
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ANDERSON: A love lost, we remember the victims of the Orlando shooting.
Hello and welcome to Connect the World. I'm Becky Anderson in Abu Ddhabi for you. French police are on high alert for football hooligans as the
Euro 2016 championship continues. Thousands of extra officers were deployed ahead of Russia's match with Slovakia in Lille. Slovakia just won
that match 2-1.
Violent clashes, though, broke out Saturday between Russia and England fans and Russia was warned it would be kicked out of the tournament if there
were more of the same.
England play Wales on Thursday near Lille.
Well, France taking drastic measures to avoid a repeat of that violence at the weekend. Frederick Pleitgen covering the action from Lille for you
this evening, and Matthew Chance joining us for the prospective from Moscow.
Starting with you, Fred, the latest game over, Slovakia winning 2-1. French authorities had expected as many as 15,000 Russian fans. Did they
arrive? And how have they behaved?
FREDERIK PLEITGEN, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Well, they've been behaving quite good over the better part of today. We've been out here I
would say for the past six, seven hours. And what was going on is that this square right here in the center of Lille was actually full of Russian
and Slovakian fans, a peaceful atmosphere.
Now, of coruse, all of them or most of them, would be at the stadium where the match has just finished.
Now behind me, Becky, you will see a lot of England fans have now come to town as well. They certainly are at the majority at this point in time.
So, we will have to wait and see what happens when the Slovakian and Russian fans return from the stadium, and then, of course, you have the
English fans right here.
But at this point in time, I have to say that the atmosphere, while a lot of people are drinking a considerable amount of alcohol, it still is very,
very peaceful here, certainly from the part of the Russians so far, from the part of the English fans as well.
And of course, we know that the reason why so many England and Russia fans are in the city right now is that England plays only about 20 miles away
from here in the town of Lens tomorrow, but the authorities here have said it's better for the England fans to actually stay in Lille simply because
there are no hotel capacities for so many fans in the town of Lens.
So, certainly, tonight the police here are very much on high alert waiting to see, hoping that there isn't going to be further rioting as we saw in
Now, of course, many people are still talking about what happened in Marseille. I spoke earlier to the head of the English Football Supporters
Federation. They are on hand here. And he says that he points the blame squarely on the Russian side. Let's listen in to what he had to say.
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KEVIN MILES, CHIEF EXECUTIVE, FOOTBALL SUPPORTERS FEDERATION: The English fans were not responsible for initiating violence in Marseilles. Yes,
there may be some footage of England fans getting involved in violence as they tried to defend themselves against attacks, but the
initiative, the aggression came from the Russians and sometimes from the groups of locals down there.
So, I don't actually think that the English fans, the majority, the vast majority have nothing to apologize for.
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[11:05:01] PLEITGEN: Now, of course, Becky, many Russian fans take a different view of that. I spoke earlier to a Russian sports journalist who
was on hand in Marseille. And acknowledged that there were Russian ultras on hand who came to Marseille specifically looking for a fight. He,
however, believes that those Russian people have now either gone back to Russia or have remained in Marseille. He doesn't believe many of the
ultras have traveled here to Lille.
And that sports journalist told me, he thinks that the French authorities should arrest those responsible, but not further threaten Russia, or UEFA
threaten Russia, to throw them out of the tournament. Let's listen in to what he had to say.
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DMITRY EGOROV, RUSSIAN SPORTS JOURNALIST: Well, there is a lot of fans here, there's a lot of Russian fans, maybe 20 or 30 of them do bad things.
And I think it's better to find them than to disqualify England or Russia.
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PLEITGEN: So it seems as though at this point in time, Becky, the Russians fans have heeded the warnings of UEFA, that there could be serious
consequences, a disqualification, if there is further violence. And of course one of the other things that is also very much leading to this venue
being fairly peaceful at this point in time, is the fact that the police really is here in full force -- Becky.
ANDERSON: Fred Pleitgen there with the fans. All right, Fred, thank you for that.
Matthew is in Moscow. And the Russian foreign minister on Wednesday, Matthew, slamming the detention of what were 43 Russian fans following last
Saturday's match against England. He called that absolutely unacceptable. No sign, it seems, that Russian authorities are prepared to concede that
the so-called fans might be bent on causing trouble, right?
MATTHEW CHANCE, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Well, I think, Becky, we're getting lots of mixed messages out of Moscow at the moment. Of
course, immediately after the violence of the weekend, there were even words of praise for the football
fans from certain quarters, including one MP -- Igor Lebedev, who said it was nothing wrong with that, football fans fighting at a match, and
actually praised the fans for doing that.
After the sanction was announced, the suspended disqualification by UEFA of Russia, then, you
know, officials were a bit more contrite, the Kremlin came out and said the violence was unacceptable.
But you're right, within the past couple hours the Russian foreign ministry has gone out back on the offensive again. The French ambassador has been
summoned, for instance, for a dressing down about the discrimination as the foreign ministry calls it here, towards Russian citizens, a reference to
the fact that a bus carrying a number of Russian fans in southern France was stopped by riot police yesterday and a number of people on board were
The Russian foreign minister Sergey Lavrov was also given a speech to the Russian parliament saying that there were outrageous provocations by the
English fans at that game as well, saying that's been overlooked. He was referring to an image that's been circulating on a lot of social media,
that's been played a lot on Russian television, of a Russian flag, a very small one, being stamped on by English fans.
And so he's equating that with the kind of scenes of, you know, rampage that we've seen posted again on social media, particularly, but also on
television screens as well, of the Russian fans on the offensive.
So yeah, very mixed messages we're getting as I say coming out of Moscow.
CHANCE: This is a thugs' eye view of the violence that marred Euro 2016.
One Russian hooligan actually filming his own rampage through the streets of Marseille. In one scene, he shows himself and his comrades vandalizing
a cafe. In another, they're kicking an English fan as he cowers on the ground.
It's this kind of appalling behavior that has seen UEFA impose a suspended disqualification on
Russia. If it happens again, UEFA says, they're out.
Do you still think it's OK for football fans to fight? Yeah? The disqualification...
It's a message even the most belligerent Russian officials appear to be heeding including the MP who tweeted support for the fighting. Out of step
with the Kremlin, which condemned the violence, he's now changed his tone.
IGO LEBEDEV, RUSSIAN PARLIAMENTARIAN (through translator): The softest punishment would have been a fine, the harshest one would have been a total
UEFA's decision was something in between. And we only have to be thankful for that. And I support the opinion of the Russian football union chairman
who said we would not appeal the decision.
CHANCE: Back in France, the authorities are finally, perhaps, belatedly getting tough. Riot police surrounding a Russian fan bus suspected of
carrying some of the hard-core hooligans French prosecutors say were behind the violence.
Russian social media postings say many onboard have been told they'll be deported, the rest are being returned to Marseilles for as French police
struggle to prevent the events of this weekend being repeated in the games ahead.
[11:10:17] CHANCE: And of course we'll see in the hours ahead, Becky, whether there will be
more violence, as Fred Pleitgen is reporting from the scene in Lille, Russian fans are there, or will be gathering there. There are English fans
already there as well. A possibility of more confrontation on the streets.
ANDERSON: Yeah. Let's hope not.
All right, Matthew, thank you for that.
Well, France is also, of course, been on high alert over terror fears. Authorities investigating
Monday's murder of a police commander and his partner. Police also tell CNN that the perpetrator threatened the Euro 2016 tournament saying it
would be like, quote, like a graveyard.
Well, that threat was captured in a Facebook video posted from the scene.
Our Atika Shubert is in Mangaville where that attack took place.
And what have you learned about the perpetrator and the details of what was this horrific attack in such a public way?
ATIKA SHUBERT, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Well, we know the name of the attacker, Larossi Abballa. And he was known to authorities. In fact,
he had served time in prison for terror offenses specifically for recruitment to terror organizations.
So, he was on sort of the radar of intelligence and police here. And they, in fact, had been monitoring his phone lines, but they say that they didn't
have any indication that he was planning any sort of imminent attack.
We now, of course, know that he was planning this attack and a horrific one at that. Not only did he stab his victims several times Jean-Baptiste
Salvaing and his partner Jessica Schneider, but he also took hostage their 3-year-old son. And in the fact in that Facebook Live, which he posted
from the scene, not only did he claim allegiance to ISIS and list off a number of other potential targets, he did all of this with the 3-year-old
toddler in the video behind him. So, very chilling stuff, Becky.
ANDERSON: All right.
With that we'll leave it there. We thank you.
We want to get you some of the other stories on our radar today. And U.S. investigators considering whether to file criminal charges against the wife
of the Orlando shooter. A law enforcement officials says Noor Salman knew her husband wanted to carry out a jihadist attack, but told the FBI she
wasn't aware of any specific plan.
Dozens are arrested in a crackdown against extremism in Bangladesh. Police say nearly 150 suspected militants and 11,000 others were detained, but the
opposition Bangladesh Nationalist Party said its members were targeted. It comes after a wave of killings against secularists and religious
Prince William is on the front cover of a leading British gay magazine. It's the first time a member of the the British royal family has been
photographed for the cover of a gay publication. In remarks inside, William condemns bullying of the LGBT community.
Well, British Prime Minister David Cameron faced more questions from lawmakers ahead of next week's referendum on EU leadership. Mr. Cameron
warned MPs in parliament that the UK could face a $42 billion budget deficit if it votes to leave the European Union.
Outside parliament, on the River Thames, in Central London, the bitter fight between the remain and leave camps took to the water with rival
flotillas going head to head.
CNN's international diplomatic editor Nic Robertson joins me live from London.
To suggest that this debate is polarizing the country would be an understatement, Nic. With a
little over a week to go until the vote, how would you describe the atmosphere around the debate?
NIC ROBERTSON, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: You know, I think when you look at what David Cameron and his finance minister, the exchequer George
Osbourne, have done today, is really perhaps tell you all you need to know on that. David Cameron, George Osbourne, have both said that if the
country votes to leave the European Union, then this will create a budgetary black
hole of 42 billion dollars. And the only way to fix that, they say, would be an emergency budget.
Now, I use this as an example to say where things are. The stakes are really, really high, because what they've done is go back to the economic
arguments that they think have been winning people over to the remain campaign that's been successful for them up to now, they believe, but today
it may have backfired because what you have was 57 of the conservative MPs and all the Labour MPs who would have to vote for this emergency budget to
put it through, have said no, that they wouldn't vote for it.
So for a lot of the potential electorate here it looks like scare mongering tactics by the British government. They no no longer believe the figures
that politicians are putting forward, where does the 42 billion number come from. And on the other hand, it's not being backed up. So they couldn't
put it through. So it comes across as scare tactics.
The polls are moving towards the leave camp. The momentum is with the leave campaign. The leave campaign brought that flotilla of fishing boats
up the Thames today. There was a little bit of confrontation there. Perhaps they're not going to change the minds of many of the fishermen
already, because fishermen have long been opposed to the European Union here in Britain.
But this gives you both instances an indication of just how tight the race is right now and how
concerned both parties are.
It is polarizing, as you say.
ANDERSON: Let's hear from David Cameron, shall we.
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DAVID CAMERON, BRITISH PRIME MINISTER: We have huge disagreements, but on this vital issue for the future of our country the best option for Britain
is to vote to remain and reform the European Union. That really says something.
If we wake up on June 24th and we've remained in our economy can continue to move forward. If we vote out, the experts warn us we will have a
smaller economy, less employment, lower wages and therefore, less tax receipts and that's why we would have to have measures to address a huge
hole in our public finances.
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ANDERSON: And what's interesting, isn't it, Nic, is that the consequences, the impact of a
Brexit, the impact to a remain to a certain extent, still, not clear and this is -- this is why with what is it just over a week to go, this is, as
I say, such a polarizing debate, correct?
ROBERTSON: There are many, many issues here, Becky, one of them is a sense for a lot of people looking at this, they see the referendum issue as being
about a fight, an internal fight within the Conservative Party so you see the conservatives divided on this -- a blue on blue fight, which is why you
have seen David Cameron -- or not seen David Cameron very much this week. There's been a real effort for the Labour Party to get out and energize
their supporters who people tend to believe will come out and vote for the remain camp to energize them to get them to come out.
So, you've seen a lot of that today.
But in parliament today, in MPMQs today, perhaps a little atypically, there were some real softball questions for the prime minister, people, MPs from
the remain camp, desperate to energize their voters. But you know you had an MP from Scotland, one from Wales, one from the central
of England all asking David Cameron essentially to spell out for their voters everything he's been saying to the country, how it would effect
their schools, how it would affect their health care services, in their area, trying to make the specific, trying to energize the voters. And
that's what both sides are trying to do. And that's what David Cameron is so desperate to do right now, Becky.
ANDERSON: Yeah. And remarkable, almost unique that the opposition would be softballing the prime minister with questions in support of his
All right, Nic, thank you for that. Fun and games in parliament then today and Britain later on
Connect the World. Why fishermen are setting course for a Brexit. We speak to some of those who
took their boats up the Thames today as part of that leave campaign flotilla.
Stay with us for that.
Also ahead this evening, the ex-wife of the Orlando shooter says it doesn't surprise her that he may have been leading a secret life. You're with
Connect the World. I'm Becky Anderson. It is 18 minutes past 7:00 in the UAE. Back after this.
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[11:21:29] UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I did not see any love. Sir, I -- Reeva had an opportunity to tell me that she loved Oscar and she never did. We
spoke over Oscar.
UNIDENITIFIED MALE: Is that as far as Reeva went in discussing Oscar with you, to
shrug her shoulders?
UNIDENIFIED FEMALE: When I asked her, when I questioned her feelings for Oscar and I questioned her happiness, that's as far as she went, yes.
UNIDENITIFIED MALE: And that's where it stopped?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yes.
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ANDERSON: You're watching CNN. This is Connect the World with me, Becky Anderson. Welcome back to the show.
You just saw Oscar Pistorius pretty much breaking down in court as he heard Reeva Steenkamp's cousin testifying that the victim didn't love him. Over
the past three days, we have heard harrowing testimony from Reeva Steenkamp's family during the athlete's sentencing hearing in Pretoria.
Pistorius also wept after removing his prosthetic legs. The double amputee appeared to be struggling to stand as his defense team argued for leniency.
Take a look.
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ROUX: The court's finding I absolute respect it, but we're dealing with statements. We have to see rationality now in the context of statements.
And what we have, these facts can be tested just (inaudible). These are the (inaudible) facts that can be tested. Let's look at who is the person
after incorporating the Supreme Court of appeals find, that you must sentence today (inaudible) wept every day.
This is the person -- it's 3:00 in the morning. It's dark.
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ANDERSON: Well, CNN's David McKenzie outside the court in Pretoria. David, what happens next?
DAVID MCKENZIE: Well, Becky, you saw those dramatic moments in the court from both the family of Reeva Steenkamp the victim and of Oscar Pistorius
really struggling to get to the front of the court and in front of the world showing from the defense's perspective, how vulnerable he was when
they say he shot Reeva Steenkamp through that bathroom door all that time ago, 2013 on Valentine's Day.
What happens next is the judge has wrapped up the sentencing hearing, she says she will come back on July 6th to give her sentencing and Oscar
Pistorius could be going back to prison straight after that session for at least 15 years, Becky.
And one other thing to mention, because of that moment of Oscar struggling in front of the court, the prosecution says that they want to abide by the
wishes of Reeva Steenkamp's family and release the gruesome crime scene photos presumably of Reeva Steenkamp's body in the aftermath of that
killing and the judge actually said she would allow those to be released.
So yet another twist in this saga, this soap opera which has kept the attention of South Africa for all this time -- Becky.
All right, David, thank you.
David McKenzie is in Pretoria for you this evening.
Well, investigators are uncovering more details about the gunman who massacred 49 people at a
night club in Orlando, but there are still more questions than answers about his motives. They are looking into the possibility that he lived a
secret life using gay dating apps and repeatedly visiting the gay club that he would eventually terrorize.
Omar Mateen's ex-wife told CNN none of this surprises her. She escaped their brief marriage years ago saying she was physically abused.
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SITORA YUSUFIY, ORLANDO SHOOTER'S EX-WIFE: I knew how unstable he was And it doesn't surprise me that he might be gay and it doesn't surprise me
that he was leading two totally different lives and was in such deep conflict within himself.
So I just hope that people without making rash judgments on one another, can truly understand that this is one insane person, that...
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ANDERSON: Such a tragedy.
Well, the Orlando tragedy has reignited a debate in the United States over gun control. Some Americans are asking how many mass shootings will it
take to get tougher laws in place, also questioning why any civilian would need to open assault weapons.
Well, while Hillary Clinton supports a ban on assault weapons, Donald Trump strongly supports gun rights. But a short time ago, he announced that he
will meet with the most powerful U.S. gun lobby, the NRA, to discuss a possible ban on gun purchases by people on terror watch lists.
Trump may face pushback. The executive director of the National Rifle Association's lobbying arm just wrote an article saying and I, quote,
"radical Islamic terrorists are not deterred by gun control laws. It's time to admit that radical Islam is a hate crime waiting to happen," end
Well, the latest world news headlines are just ahead. Plus, imagine having billions of these, U.S. dollars and still not being able to buy whatever
you want. That is the problem Iran is having to deal with right now.
I'm going to explain just ahead. Taking a very short break. Back with these after that.
[11:31:12] ANDERSON: The Walt Disney World resort near Orlando in Florida has closed all of its beaches after a 2-year-old boy was dragged away by an
alligator on Tuesday night. The child was at the edge of a lagoon at the resort when the alligator attacked. A frantic search still continues.
CNN's Boris Sanchez has more for you.
BORIS SANCHEZ, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): A desperate search underway as a luxury Disney resort near Orlando by air, and in the water, for a 2-
year-old boy snatched and dragged away by an alligator at Disney's Grand Floridian resort. The toddler was wading near the shore of a man-made lake
with his family nearby.
CHAD WEBER, OFFICER, FLORIDA FISH AND WILDLIFE: We're putting every effort into locating the child and trapping this alligator.
SANCHEZ: The toddler's father jumping into the water to try to pull his son from the grips of the gator, to no avail. The tragic incident occurring
shortly after 9 p.m., according to law enforcement officials. Social media lighting up with horrified Disney goers, watching the frantic search
unfold: "Police putting up yellow tape outside of the Grand Floridian directly across from the Magic Kingdom in Orlando." And "Praying for this
family. Ground and air crews continue the search."
The young boy was on vacation with his family from Nebraska, and had been staying at the resort since Sunday. Disney is fully cooperating with the
JACQUEE WAHLER, VICE PRESIDENT OF COMMUNICATIONS, WALT DISNEY WORLD RESORT: Everyone here at the Walt Disney World Resort is devastated by this tragic
accident. Our thoughts are with the family. We are helping the family and doing everything we can to assist law enforcement.
SANCHEZ: With each passing hour, a harsh reality is setting in for rescuers desperately trying to find this young boy.
SHERIFF JERRY DEMINGS, ORANGE COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE: We're not leaving until we recover the child.
ANDERSON: Well, in just over a week British voters will head to the polls to decide whether the UK should remain in the European Union.
Earlier we showed you these pictures of rival flotillas on the River Thames in central London. CNN's Nina Dos Santos visited a fishing port in
England, and has been speaking with some of the fishermen who took part in today's stunt. She joins me now from the studio
The polls showing some momentum for the leave campaign in recent days, a caveat of course, in recent past polling in UK elections, Nina, has been
less than a perfect science, but there's no doubt that the referendum polarizing the country.
You've been out with some of those fishermen today on the Thames, what are they telling you?
NINA DOS SANTOS, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONENT: Fishermen, like farmers, Becky, are particularly polarized, and there's a reason why the emotions
are so heightened and also elevated against Brussels in these two sectors and it is because they attract the most regulation and more regulation than
any other sector really. And it hits some of these people the hardest because they're often one man bands. So, they're often single fishermen
who have their own boats just like farmers, who have small farms, and they have to farm that land.
They say repeatedly these two sectors of society that they basically get brow beaten by red tape that comes from Brussels. And when it comes to
fishermen, this is exemplified in the quota system that worked for some big fisheries, but also can really penalize some small fishermen.
And these are the kinds of people who took to the Thames today. This is what they told me when I went next door to Whitstable which is next door
to Ramsgate (ph) in Kent where they set off from earlier today. They again had very charged emotions. And as you can see in the piece, Becky,
they are readying their little ships for battle.
[11:35:04] DOS SANTOS: For more than two centuries, fishing boats have navigated the waters around Whitstable Harbor, bringing home their daily
catch. But the landings have been getting steadily lighter as fishermen say they're are struggling with the weight of bureaucracy from Brussels.
Across the port on sea and dry land, sailors are flying the flag for a so- called Brexit.
ANDY RICHES, FISHERMAN: Probably 99% of the fishermen will be voting to leave. And that is purely because they're fed up with the quota
restrictions. They're archaic rules and we just can't survive.
DOS SANTOS: Even the Spanish fishermen here understand the locals' wish to cast off the EU.
JORDI MONCHO, DIRECTOR, CANDIUM SHELLFISH: I think what irritates them is the fact that europe is managing as well the fishery here.
DOS SANTOS: Despite being an island nation with 20,000 miles worth of coastline, the UK is a net importer of fish taking in over $1.5 billion
worth of it every year. In fact, 70 percent of the seafood consumed across Britain isn't caught in these waters at all, it comes from abroad.
One of the reasons, being part of the EU gives members access to each other's waters so
to prevent over fishing, they bloc uses a system of quotas which limits what can be brought ashore.
RICHES: Where I've caught today my state quota that's half of my quota for the month, which was not quite half a box. But I'm sure I will catch the
other half a box, so for the rest of this month I will have to throw that fish back.
DOS SANTOS: If the tangle of red tape builds up, Andy and others are considering giving up
on their trade.
RICHES: Over the 30 years that we've been in, as far as I can see, it's certainly decimated the
industry that I knew.
DOS SANTOS: and the data confirms that trend. Over the last 20 years, the number of fishermen across the country has fallen by 41 percent from 20,000
back in 1995 to just 12,000. And when it comes to the fleet of UK fishing vessels they're down to just 6,300 today.
Which is why rather than being left picking over the pieces, Whitstable's fishermen think that they can chart their own course towards less troubled
DOS SANTOS: Now, Becky, we should also say in defense of the EU, many environmentalists say that the quota system that's so particularly
controversial and hurts these north Atlantic fishermen much more than the Mediterranean fishermen where quotas don't necessarily apply, is good
because on the one hand, fish don't respect borders and it repletes fish stocks.
And if the UK were to leave the European Union it wouldn't necessarily have the same protection that could effect not just UK fishermen but fishermen
right across the EU.
ANDERSON: So Nina, the government today who -- the majority of whom certainly -- well, the prime minister and his finance minister, looking to
have Britain remain within the EU, they are arguing that there would be a hole in public finances to the tune of something like 42 billion.
Now, much arguing about where they got those numbers from, whether they can stack them up and whether you can pick them apart. And if you're the
Brexit campaign what your figures would look like.
But at this point, is it clear, what the impact and consequences of a Brexit would be should the UK vote for that a week tomorrow?
DOS SANTOS: What is clear in the financial markets, Becky, is that we'r ealready seeing the impact of the uncertainty that this vote is generating.
Just yesterday, what we saw was about $30 billion to $40 billion wiped off the value of the FTSE 100 in just one day because of the market.
Now, that market has recovered since, but we have seen the pound continually shedding ground. We've seen short selling, so bets against the
value of the pound by some of the hedge funds build up as we head ever closer towards the vote.
So, it's not just the holes, potential holes in government finances that David Cameron and his
chancer, George Osbourne were highlighting today, outside of the UK what we're also seeing is a lot of
people getting very concerned about the value of sterling.
As one economist I was speaking to -- chief economist for a big fund management company just a few hours ago -- saying the sterling could fall
precipitously with his words, between 15 percent to 20 percent in the event of a Brexit. And because the UK relies so heavily on borrowing from abroad,
we've got a very deficit in this country, continuing to fund that when your currency is in freefall is another thing government members have to
But it isn't an argument that they're necessarily putting forward to the people.
ANDERSON: Yeah, all right, fascinating,
There's going to be consequences for both the UK and the EU whatever the result of this
referendum I think.
The EU may look very different going forward whatever happens.
All right, Nina, thank you for that for the time being. If you, viewers, want more information, do check out our online coverage at
CNN.com/UKreferendum. And do be sure to tune in later for a special edition of Quest Means Business as my colleague Richard Quest continues his
journey across the country to get the thoughts of UK voters.
Plus, you can follow the conversation on social media, using the hashtag #drivewithquest. That is Drive With Quest.
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BARACK OBAMA, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: I do want to once again speak directly to the Iranian people. Yours is a great civilization with a
vibrant culture that has so much to contribute to the world in commerce and in science and in arts. Following the nuclear deal, you, especially young
Iranians, have the opportunity to begin building new ties with the world.
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ANDERSON: U.S. President Barack Obama there a few months ago -- it was back in January, in fact, but most ordinary Iranians haven't exactly seen
the Iran nuclear deal put cash in their pockets.
Let me talk you through why using one example. On Tuesday, Iran signed a major deal with Boeing to buy 100 planes just like this one. Even with the
ink fresh, this deal may not fly.
Why? You ask yourselves.
Well, because of one big catch: a money problem, quite literally. Other American sanctions mean that Iran isn't allowed to deal in these -- in
dollars. And because so many banks do so much currency -- business in this currency, they are very worried about doing anything that could land them
in hot water and that is keeping Iran on the sidelines.
You want to hear more, don't you?
Let's break it all down for you. CNN Money's emerging markets editor John Defterios. We were talking about this story earlier on, and trying to work
out how we could break it down. Because it's complicated. But it's very, very good one.
Both sides landing a pretty big deal here when it comes to planes, right.
JOHN DEFTERIOS, CNN MONEY: Yeah, the language is impressive. In fact, the minister in charge of this portfolio in Iran says it's a milestone. In
fact, you have to go back to the revolution to see a deal between a U.S. plane maker and Iran. So, it is a big deal going back to 1979.
Now, it's interesting. The customer is Iran Air, we're talking about a lot of planes, better than 100 of the jetliners here, even the 787 part of the
mix. A huge transaction, Becky, when you look at the stack of cash, better than $20 billion is what we're looking at here.
And let's not forget the political implications in the United States. Barack Obama was talking to the Iranian people, but also for the U.S.
manufacturer, and also employees, this would create jobs in an election year from Redman Washington in the west going east and south into the
United States as well.
I combed through the mid-January agreement and it's interesting, there's an exemption made for
plane makers in this deal. There is a precedent here within the legal documentation to proceed with the transaction. The big question is, can it
be done in U.S. dollars going forward?
Boeing hedged its bet, it just put out a very brief statement, it was very careful with the language, saying any agreements reached will be contingent
on U.S. government approval. So, they want to make sure that all the lines are underlined correctly and dotted.
The fleet needs renewals. An interesting number from the Iranians, of the 250 planes they have right now, some 90 are out of operation.
DEFTERIOS: 9-0. because of the 13 years of sanctions.
ANDERSON: That's a quarter of the fleet.
DEFTERIOS: Yeah, the quarter of the fleet is sitting on the sidelines where they haven't had the parts.
ANDERSON: It follows in the path, the flight path if you will, of an earlier deal that Iran signed with AirBus, of course. $30 billion, I
think, to the tune of. They, like Boeing, facing a turbulent and uncertain future, it seems.
DEFTERIOS: Yeah, this is where it gets complicated. The AirBus deal signed when Hassan Rouhani went to France. Right after that agreement, he
went to Paris, it was 118 planes, some $27 billion, a very big transaction.
But I think the gap we have to point out here is between the contract that's on the table and the bank. This is where it could break down, I
think, Becky, and I'll tell you why. If you look at the language of the treasury agreement, it's not clear whether they can push forward with the
contract in U.S. dollars right now.
Don't forget, the banks have to clear all their transaction, whether it's an international bank if done in dollars, through the U.S. Federal Reserve.
The language is not very clear. And the banks are gun shy.
Now think about it, Commerce Bank of Germany, BNP Pariba, HSBC, Standard Charter Bank, all probably should be involved in transactions, but they
paid $15 billion of fines for past work during sanctions with the Iranian regime. So, of course, they don't want to lose their U.S. banking license.
And right now, they're holding back on any transaction. Nothing is moving, even on the AirBus deal.
The other interesting twist here, there are reports that Boeing is looking to invest in a leasing company out of Singapore, perhaps to help in the
transaction here with Iran. We don't know which currency it would be in right now.
So, again, a number of question marks. The contracts look promising but so far nothing has pushed ahead.
[11:45:08] ANDERSON: I find this absolutely remarkable that there would be such a gray area. You sign a deal, you ink a deal, you say the sanctions
are off and nobody is prepared to quite do the business because they're not confident they're not going to be slapped with sanctions on their own
business were they to get it wrong.
John, fascinating stuff. Good stuff.
All right, let's crack on live from Abu Dhabi this is Connect the World. Coming up, after losing nearly all their money, one small company in
Ethiopia took a gamble on reinventing themselves. We'll see if it paid off up next in what is this week's African Start-up.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: All right, Amir, so welcome to our home for the time being. This is Enzi Central.
AMIR DAFTARI, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: So when you said a garage, you literally meant a garage.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: A garage, exactly, yeah.
DAFTARI: Sure, it's based out of a garage, but don't let that fool you. This start-up is already making its mark on the fashion industry.
100 percent Ethiopian, ENZI is a footware label that stands out.
UNIDENITFIED MALE: What differentiates us as a brand is how well the shoes are finished, how well, they're made and how comfortable they are. Every
single millimeter counts, every stitch is important.
DAFTARI: From the small workshop, they export leather shoes to markets in Europe, Asia
and the U.S.
UNIDENITIFIED MALE: We're constantly tweaking and perfecting.
DAFTARI: They say their focus on quality what is sets them apart, but it's proved a difficult strategy at times.
UNIDENITIFED MALE: Initially, we started with about $30,000, raised internally, most was eaten up be honest by failed ventures with the local
DAFTARI: Outsourcing production and forgoing their high standards was not something ENZI
was willing to do.
UNIDNETIFIED MALE: It was difficult to change the culture of an assembly line that has 100 people on it. One member of that assembly line messes up,
the product is going to come out wrong at the end.
DAFTARI: with the little money they had left over they set up their own manufacturing. All lines of production are now controlled by the business
But more ownership means more management.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: being able to change the culture with this small team and then slowly adding people, our team will convince new our employees and
we grow organically like that.
But it's -- it was a learning experience.
DAFTARI: Starting at around $125 a pair most, sales take place through the company website. That's now changing.
Welcome to the first ENZI store, a step forward for a local start-up aspiring to be a globally recognized brand.
[11:50:04] UNIDENTIFIED MALE: When people are holding the product and that reaction really made me feel good. And that includes Ethiopians here. In
Ethiopia, we're surprised at the quality of the shoes themselves.
DAFTARI: From a tiny workshop to the feet of the world, ENZI's emphasis on quality has it heading in the right direction.
Amir Daftari, CNN, Addis Ababa.
ANDERSON: CNN and this is Connect theWorld with me Becky Anderson. Welcome back.
Families and friends of the 49 people killed in the Orlando mass shooting are honoring the
victims' memories and telling their stories. Our Anderson Cooper spoke to the grieving mother of Christopher Andrew Leon who says that Christopher
who was known as Drew, and his boyfriend Juan were deeply in love before their lives were tragically cut short.
COOPER: Thank you so much for being here.
CHRISTINE LEINONEN, CHRISTOPHER LEINONEN'S MOTHER: Thank you.
COOPER: How -- what do you want people to know about your son?
LEINONEN: I want people to know that he was genuinely great person. He was fun, he was happy. He was Orlando's child.
COOPER: He started a gay-straight alliance, is that right, when he was a kid?
LEINONEN: When he was in high school he started a gay-straight alliance and he won the Anne Frank humanitarian award for that. And we had a big --
they had a big ceremony and I was very proud of him for that.
COOPER: And he and Juan were talking about marriage?
LEINONEN: Well they were madly in love in a way that I've never seen him over the past 15 years. He's -- he had, you know, boyfriends of a duration
of one year, six years I think, one of his former boyfriends is actually being my right-hand man right now for me while I'm waiting for my family,
from up north, but yeah, he -- and he loved, of course, he loved every man that he then had a relationship with, of course.
But he loved Juan in a -- that special kind of way and look.
COOPER: You could tell?
LEINONEN: Oh, yeah, definitely...
COOOPER: That he was the one?
COOPER: I mean, there's a lot of, you know, people in that club some cases their parents didn't even know and maybe weren't supportive. There was one
young man who had just come out to his parents. He wasn't sure how his parents would deal with it, and they supported him. Were you supporter
from the beginning? I mean, it sounds like you realized early on.
LEINONEN: Well I was supportive but not directly. I didn't know, I didn't want to do the wrong thing so I just let him live his life.
COOPER: Come to you on his own time.
LEINONEN: And yeah. And we just kept up the facade, the unspoken.
COOPER: You found out in ninth grade kind of on your own he was gay. But he didn't tell you right away.
LEINONEN: And then when he started the gay-straight alliance and we saw him kissing his boyfriend, saying good-bye, you know, we know that...
[11:55:09] COOPER: Something is up.
LEINONEN: And they were cool together, you know, they were like teenagers with their first loves that they're going to be goofy. So, sometimes you
don't know if they're just being goofy because you don't want to then say hey are you this and then that weird creepy parent like you want to be the
cool parent but you're just the creepy parent.
So, you don't know because kids who aren't even heterosexual but they're a teenage girl and a teenage boy they kiss each other and hug each other like
you think that they're dating or something, but they're just friends and that...
COOPER: Where does your strength come from? I mean, you're able to smile and talk about your son. I think there's a lot of people...
LEINONEN: Because I love him. I could be sad and I have incredibly sad moments and I could be angry, and I've been given a license to be angry for
different types of treatments. But when you want to know about the love and the love is going to usurp the hate. That's...
COOPER: And you feel that love.
LEINONEN: Oh, I feel that love with Christopher, with his friends, with you, with the Orlando community. Christopher was Orlando's child.
Even though I gave birth to him, Orlando is now the adoptive mother. Because she made Christopher feel the love and acceptance. He went to UCF
here in Orlando. That's where he went away to school. I'm saying, are you sure you don't want to stay in Pinellas County. No, no, I want to go away,
I want to go to Orlando to UCF. So he came here to Orlando, he went to undergrad here. He went to UCF grad school. He stayed here after grad
He loved Orlando. He loved Orlando.
COOPER: Well, he was incredibly lucky to have you as a mom.
LEINONEN: I was -- my luck started when I gave birth to my son.
COOPER: Christine, thank you so much for talking to us.
LEINONEN: Thank you.
ANDERSON: Well, the families of Drew and his boyfriend Juan are planning a joint funeral to honor the couple's lives and their incredible love for
I'm Becky Anderson, that was Connect the World from the team here and those working with us around the world. It's a very good evening.