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[08:00:04] KRISTIE LU STOUT, HOST: I'm Kristie Lu Stout in Hong Kong and welcome to News Stream.
Now tight security in France ahead of Russia's Euro 2016 match with the team facing the threat of being kicked out if there's any more violence by
Oscar Pistorius overcome with emotion in court after hearing testimony that Reeva Steenkamp did not love him.
And British lawmakers grilled Prime Minister David Cameron on Brexit just over a week before the UK votes on whether or not to leave the EU.
Russia and Slovakia will kick off in less than an hour at the European football championships, but the action off the pitch will be just as
important as the match itself with the Russian team facing the threat of disqualification if their fans misbehave again.
Now, French authorities have ramped up security in Lilles area. 3,900 officers have been mobilized to ensure order. But even with the heavy
police presence, there were tensions between Russian fans and a group of English and Welsh supporters on Tuesday.
Euro 2016 is less than a week old, but already the months' long tournament has seen disturbing scenes of fan violence. On Tuesday, European
football's governing body handed Russia a suspended ban from Euro 2016. It's effectively a final warning for Russia. It came after Russian fans
clashed with England supporters during their match on Saturday,
And while the two teams aren't playing, their fans will be close. Now, Russia's match against Slovakia it takes place in Lilles, while England
supporters are gathering in nearby Lens ahead of their match Thursday.
Now, Fred Pleitgen is in Lilles. He's got the very latest. He joins us now. And Fred, what's the scene out there?
FREDERIK PLEITGEN, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Well, Kristie, so far, I have to say it is very peaceful here in Lilles, but we've seen throughout
the early part of the day is that there were a lot of Slovakian and Russian supporters here in the city center really getting along with one another.
A lot of them obviously drinking a lot of alcohol, also singing together.
There really wasn't anything like tension that could have been seen in the air.
What's going on right now is that we're about an hour before the kickoff of that game. So, many of those fans are now actually on their way to the
stadium. And so the city is emptying out somewhat.
What's going on right now is that there's actually more England fans here in Lilles right now. It's interesting, as you mentioned, England plays in
Lens tomorrow, which is only about 20 miles away from Lilles, but a lot of the England supporters are actually staying here in Lilles simply because
there's more hotel capacity here in this city.
Now, as you've mentioned, the big question is going to be, is there going to be violence away
from the football pitch? Are the fans going to clash once again? We saw some disturbances last night, really, today, there wasn't any sort of
indication that anything seemed to be brewing, at least before the match. It was interesting, because earlier today I managed to speak to Kevin
Miles, who is the head of the Federation of Football Supporters, and he told me he believes that the original clashes that happened in Marseille,
he thinks that it wasn't the English fans' fault. Listen to what he had to say.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
KEVIN MILES, CHIEF EXECUTIVE, FOOTBALL SUPPORTERS FEDERATION: The English fans were not responsible for initiating violence in Marseilles. Yes,
there may be some footage of England fans getting involved in violence as they tried to defend themselves against attacks, but the
initiative, the aggression came from the Russians and sometimes from the groups of locals down there.
So, I don't actually think that the English fans, the majority, the vast majority have nothing to apologize for.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
PLEITGEN: Now, we also spoke to a Russian sports journalist earlier today and he said that, yes, there were Russians who were involved in the
violence. He also said there were quite clearly ultras who had come to Marseille simply to fight. But he believes that none of them, or very few
of them, actually made journey here to Lilles, especially after the police action that was taken against hardcore fans by the French police over the
past couple of days.
So, everybody here, of course, hopes that things will remain peaceful. And certainly from what we've seen this morning, it seems to be shaping up that
way. Also seems as though, Kristie, the police here has really upped their game. We are seeing a large presence of police officers in riot gear on
the ground really trying to quelch any sort of tension that might come up, Kristie.
LU STOUT: Yeah, they want to avoid any more episodes of fan violence. But there's also the specter of the terror attack that happened yesterday. We
learned that the man who killed the police commander and his partner threatened the Euro 2016 tournament. So are you seeing greater security
presence in light of that additional threat?
PLEITGEN: Absolutely. And that certainly is part of it as well that on the one hand, you do have the fear of violence that happened there in
Marseille over the course of -- before that game took place there, but then, of course, you do also have the specter of the threat of terrorism as
And especially after that video showed up by the attacker who killed that police officer, threatening to turn the Euro into a graveyard. You
certainly are seeing the French police really step up their game.
And of course, on the one hand, it's the venues themselves that are a focal point, but also, of course, places where fans conglomerate like, for
instance, in the center of Lilles, especially around the railway station. Because, of course, a lot of fans, especially at this
European Cup will be traveling by railroad and, therefore, those areas are certainly ones that they have to
secure. And something that the French police take very seriously.
We have seen them conduct searches of people who have come here to the train station. It is definitely something that is on their radar, all the
more so after the attack that took place with the death of that French police officer and his wife, only a few days ago, Kristie.
[08:05:53] LU STOUT: All right. Fred Pleitgen reporting live from Lilles. Thank you.
Now, the Kremlin has condemned the outbreak of violence we saw in host city Marseille on Saturday. Our senior international correspondent Matthew
Chance takes a closer look at the clashes that broke out between rival supporters.
MATTHEW CHANCE, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: This is a thugs' eye view of the violence that marred Euro 2016.
One Russian hooligan actually filming his own rampage through the streets of Marseille. In one scene, he shows himself and his comrades vandalizing
a cafe. In another, they're kicking an English fan as he cowers on the ground.
It's this kind of appalling behavior that has seen UEFA impose a suspended disqualification on
Russia. If it happens again, UEFA says, they're out.
Do you still think it's OK for football fans to fight? Yeah? The disqualification...
It's a message even the most belligerent Russian officials appear to be heeding including the MP who tweeted support for the fighting. Out of step
with the Kremlin, which condemned the violence, he's now changed his tone.
IGO LEBEDEV, RUSSIAN PARLIAMENTARIAN (through translator): The softest punishment would have been a fine, the harshest one would have been a total
UEFA's decision was something in between. And we only have to be thankful for that. And I support the opinion of the Russian football union chairman
who said we would not appeal the decision.
CHANCE: Back in France, the authorities are finally, perhaps, belatedly getting tough. Riot police surrounding a Russian fan bus suspected of
carrying some of the hard-core hooligans French prosecutors say were behind the violence.
Russian social media postings say many onboard have been told they'll be deported, the rest are being returned to Marseilles for as French police
struggle to prevent the events of this weekend being repeated in the games ahead.
Matthew Chance, CNN, Moscow.
LU STOUT: France remains on high alert for a possible terror. Now police says the man who murdered a police commander and his partner inside their
home on Monday also threatened the Euro 2016 tournament. And the threats were made in a live Facebook video that the killer broadcast from the
Now, the video has since been taken down from Facebook, but an edited version was released on a site affiliated with ISIS.
Now, CNN senior international correspondent Atik Shubert is live in France. She joins us now with the very latest. And Atika, what new details have
you learned about how the assailant and how he carried out this attack?
ATIKA SHUBERT, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Well, this is what police are investigating -- exactly how they carried out the attack, what kind of
planning went into it. What we know from police is that in addition to the Facebook live video that he posted, they were able to confiscate a number
of items from his car, including a list of other targets, which included a number of
journalists, public officials, other police officers, as well as musical artists, rappers, actually.
So this is what police have discovered about him. And, of course, that he was also -- had served time in prison for terror offenses a number of
So he was on police radar, intelligence knew about him. They even kept phone tabs on him, but say they had no information of an imminent attack.
LU STOUT: Atika, let's talk more about that Facebook live video. We know that the attacker posted this 13-minute live stream on Facebook from where
the attack took place. This is a horrifying video. But is it somehow helping in the investigation?
SHUBERT: Well, it is very chilling to think that after he stabbed to death Jean-Baptiste Salvaing and his partner Jessica Schneider, that he actually
posted this video, a 13-minute video, in which he swears allegiance to ISIS. He also names a list of other targets and encourages other people to
carry out more violence. And also, of course, threatens the Euro football championships.
But while he's saying all of this, you can also see a 3-year-old toddler, the child of the two victims, sitting behind him wrapped in a blanket
looking in shock, frankly.
So it's a horrific thing to have and to see. What police are looking at now is to see whether or not he sent that video to anyone specifically,
whether or not there was a network.
All that we know at this point is that three people were called in for questioning, but no one else has been charged. So at this point, it does
seem that he was acting alone.
[08:10:39] LU STOUT: And Atika, just a moment ago we saw a police officer lay down a flower in the scene behind you, in tribute of the slain police
commander and his wife. And we know that there were additional potential victims, as you mentioned, the attacker had this hit list of other police
officers, of journalists and artists. They need protection. And then there's also the task of
protecting and securing the entire Euro 2016 tournament. Can French authorities handle this?
SHUBERT: It is a tremendous task for French police, for intelligence authorities to try and keep on top of all of these different things that
But you're right, this is yet another attack that has shocked the country. And we had a memorial service in Paris which was attended by the interior
minister, but also here. Scores of neighbors came out signing book of condolences, leaving flowers, actually throughout the day yesterday we saw
people coming here to leave flowers.
Now, the crime scene is still closed off, but it didn't stop people from coming here to pay their respects. I think even though this is a terror
attack, this was also very much a local crime. Jean-Baptiste Salvaint and his partner Jessica Schneider were killed by somebody who lived maybe a
ten-minute drive away.
So it affected the neighborhood here very much. People here just absolutely are just absolutely shocked that something like this could
LU STOUT: All right, Atika Shubert live from the scene for us. Many thanks indeed for your
Now, security concerns and fan violence have taken the focus off the matches themselves at
Euro 2016 and in 30 minutes you can watch highlights from Iceland's surprise result against Portugal. You can also look ahead to the rest of
Wednesday's matches on World Sport with Christina Macfarlane later in the hour.
Now, a family vacationing in Florida, they are facing a living nightmare. Now crews at a Disney resort have been looking all through the night for a
2-year-old boy who was dragged off by an alligator. Officials provided an update a short time ago. And they say that they are bringing in additional
personnel to help in the search. The sheriff says it is unlikely they will find the boy alive.
The attack happened at Lake Buena Vista just outside Orlando, Florida. A family of four parents, the boy and his 4-year-old sister, they were
visiting Disney World from Nebraska and staying at Disney's Grand Floridian Resort and Spa.
And the boy was just at the edge of the Seven Seas Lagoon when the alligator attacked him.
The father tried to get his son back from the animal, but it wouldn't let go. There are no swimming signs at the lagoon. You can see it's fairly
large -- a very large area that they're having to search right now.
And crews, they are using a number of assets -- helicopters, sonar, marine units as well as an alligator trapper. Divers are on standby.
Now, the tragedy is already adding to the tragic week in Orlando. Early on Sunday, 49 people were killed when a gunman opened fire and took hostages
at a nightclub called Pulse.
And CNN's Jim Sciutto reports, the investigation is focused not only on the gunman but on those close to him.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Did you know your husband was going to do this?
JIM SCIUTTO, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): This morning, authorities are zeroing in on the killer's wife, 30-year-old Noor Salman. A law enforcement
official says she admits she knew about her husband's interest in carrying out a jihadist attack.
JERRY DEMINGS, ORANGE COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE: She has been very cooperative with the authorities.
SCIUTTO: Salman claiming she tried to dissuade him from doing anything violent, according to the FBI. She denies knowing anything about the Pulse
nightclub as a target for the massacre.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Do you think that your daughter-in-law here helped your son commit this crime?
SADDIQUE MATEEN, FATHER OF OMAR MATEEN: I don't think so.
SCIUTTO: Authorities are now looking into whether she should face charges for knowing about his intentions but not telling police.
This as we're getting our first look inside the couple's apartment. Clothes and children's toys scattered on the floor. Investigators seizing
electronic devices from the home as new evidence is emerging that suggests the gunman may have considered other targets.
DEMINGS: Suffice it to say that he had probed multiple locations before he chose that -- that spot.
SCIUTTO: CNN has learned he visited this Disney shopping complex, as well as the Pulse nightclub, all at the beginning of June. Investigators say his
wife traveled with him, the dates coinciding with Gay Days, an annual event that attracts thousands of LGBT people to Disney parks. Disney security
officials told the FBI they believe the shooter was scouting the Disney World park when he visited there with his wife in April, as well.
[08:15:16] DEMINGS: We are trying to understand all of his travels in the recent past.
SCIUTTO: The June scouting missions occurring around the same time as when the killer purchased the weapons he used to carry out the attack. This as
we are now hearing from first responders at the nightclub.
LT. DAVIS ODELL, ORLANDO FIRE DEPARTMENT: I won't forget the steady pow, pow, pow.
SCIUTTO: A lieutenant at the fire station just 300 feet away from the club describing the hundreds of club goers frantically trying to escape the
barrage of bullets.
ODELL: There was groups of people in front of the fire station, hiding behind the wall over there, crying and screaming. Kind of sick to think
about it, but each time he's shooting, he's shooting somebody in there, and what's more, you know, going about his business as methodically as he was
at a gun range.
LU STOUT: That was our Jim Sciutto reporting.
Now, the nightclub massacre has been dominating the U.S. presidential race. Donald Trump has accused President Obama of being weak on terrorism and Mr.
Obama fired right back, calling Trump's response to the massacre dangerous.
Our senior Washington correspondent Joe Johns joins us now with more on the story. And Joe, it was an extraordinary denunciation by the U.S.
president. Please, tell us more. What did President Obama say? And how is Trump responding?
JOE JOHNS, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, Kristie, the president hammered Donald Trump for seemingly taking an un-American approach to immigration. He
slammed Trump for taking positions that even many Republicans don't support, and he ridiculed
Trump's assertion that the president has avoided referring to the threat of terrorism as a product of radical Islam.
And Trump responded with a rhetorical blast of his own.
JOHNS (voice-over): Donald Trump going after President Obama.
TRUMP: I watched President Obama today. And he was more angry at me than he was at the shooter.
JOHNS: Accusing the president of being angrier at him than the man who carried out the terror attack at a gay nightclub in Orlando.
TRUMP: The level of anger, that's the kind of anger he should have for the shooter and these killers that shouldn't be here.
JOHNS: Trump lashing out just hours after President Obama's fiery speech, defending his strategy against ISIS and his refusal to use the term
BARACK OBAMA, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: That's the key, they tell us. We can't beat ISIL unless we call them radical Islamists. What exactly
would using this label accomplish? What exactly would it change? There's no magic to the phrase "radical Islam." It's a political talking point. It's
not a strategy.
JOHNS: The president's speech, his sharpest rebuke against the presumptive presidential nominee, slamming his rhetoric as dangerous and un-American.
OBAMA: That's not the America we want. It doesn't reflect our democratic ideals. It won't make us more safe. It will make us less safe.
JOHNS: Flanked by his National Security Council, including the nonpartisan chairman of the joint chiefs of staffs, the president lambasting Trump's
renewed push to ban Muslims entering the U.S. and calling out Republican leadership left squirming by Trump's views.
OBAMA: If we fall into the trap of painting all Muslims with a broad brush and imply that we are at war with an entire religion, then we are doing the
terrorists' work for them.
JOHNS: Trump appearing unimpressed.
TRUMP: Nobody at that speech understand anything other than, boy, does he hate Donald Trump.
JOHNS: Democrats mounting a calculated one-two punch.
HILLARY CLINTON (D), PRESUMPTIVE PRESIDENTIAL NOMINEE: What Donald Trump is saying is shameful.
JOHNS: With Hillary Clinton simultaneously unleashing her rebuke of Trump in Pittsburgh.
CLINTON: When Donald suggests I won't call this threat what it is, he hasn't been listening. But I will not demonize and declare war on an entire
JOHNS: Clinton also denouncing Trump's conspiracy theories about President Obama after the terror attack as shameful.
CLINTON: Even in a time of divided politics, this is way beyond anything that should be said by someone running for president.
JOHNS: As you can see there, all if this occurring against the backdrop of the U.S. presidential election. But we're not talking about in the midst
of all of this is the end of the Democratic primary process in the United States. Hillary Clinton won the final contest right
here in Washington, D.C. She and her Democratic rival met quietly last night, but no concession so far from Bernie Sanders about the end of the
race -- Kristie.
LU STOUT: Yeah, thank you for that update on that.
And Joe, in the wake of Orlando, I know that President Obama has been calling on congress to pass tougher gun laws. Our viewers around the world
are just wondering, you know, after what happened there, the deadliest mass shooting in U.S. history, is America finally convinced that gun laws need
[08:20:20] JOHNS: That's very difficult to say. As you know, the right to bear arms is written into the United States constitution, seen as a
fundamental right here in the United States, and the reasons for that are everything from recreational shooting to self-defense. And powerful
interests lobbies and activities have sprung up around all of this. The National Rifle Association leading so much of that in the United States.
It makes it very difficult to get agreement, because the two sides are entrenched and have been for years and years on this issue.
LU STOUT: All right, Joe Johns reporting live from Washington. Many thanks indeed, Joe. Take care.
Now, Hackers invaded the U.S. Democratic National Committee. And some cyber security experts say it is linked to Russia.
Now, the party discovered the intrusion last month. And the cyber security firm it hired says that there were two hackers, but they weren't working
together. Now, the intruders apparently roamed around the network about a year. And in one case they allegedly stole opposition research on Donald
You're watching News Stream, and coming up, a stunning moment from a courtroom in Pretoria, when Oscar Pistorius removed his prosthetic legs.
LU STOUT: Coming to you live from Hong Kong, you're back watching News Stream.
And the emotionally charged courtroom in South Africa as the sentencing of Oscar Pistorius enters its third day.
In the past few hours, we heard gripping testimony from Reeva Steenkamp's cousin and saw a weeping Pistorius standing without his prosthetic legs in
front of the court.
Now, for more on this story let's take you live to Pretoria. David McKenzie joins us now. And, David, incredible scenes today. Why did
Distorius remove his prosthetic legs?
DAVID MCKENZIE, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Well, Kristie, it was quite extraordinary seeing Oscar Pistorius out of his dark trademark suit
and into shorts and a t-shirt and walking -- hobbling in front of the court and in front of the world's cameras, and it's really a defense tactic of
the defense to try and show his vulnerability. They say throughout this trial and since he was found to kill Reeva Steenkamp, his girlfriend,
people have been saying that he was this strong athlete, this 6-foot tall man who shot through the bathroom door and killed his girlfriend. And the
defense is saying, this is the Oscar you should be looking at. Take a listen.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
[08:25:00] BARRY ROUX, DEFENSE LAWYER: He suffers from an anxiety disorder. We know that (inaudible) his balance was seriously compromised,
and without anything he would not be able to defend himself. He was anxious. He was frightened, as frightened (inaudible), and he was
suffering from anxiety disorder, that is not gone. This must all be seen in the context of his disability.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
MCKENZIE: And the reason they're doing this, Kristie, is to try to show that he's vulnerable and he shouldn't be sent back to prison for murder for
the maximum amount of time -- Kristie.
LU STOUT: And, David, what is the family of Reeva Steenkamp saying?
MCKENZIE: Well, that's a good question, because for all of the attempts by the defense to show that Oscar is vulnerable, that he is reformed, that he
is, in fact, sorry for what he did, we've had emotional testimony from several members of Reeva Steenkamp's family including his cousin, Kim today
-- Kim Martin. And she said there's one thing that they want from Oscar Pistorius.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
KIM MARTIN, REEVA STEENKAMP'S COUSIN: And, my lady, all we've ever wanted is the truth. And people said that you got the truth, but we didn't.
Oscar's version changed so many times. And I never, ever heard him saying that, I apologize for shooting and murdering Reeva behind that door.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
MCKENZIE: The prosecution is winding up its arguments, Kristie, and they are pushing for the maximum, saying that at least 15 years is appropriate
for Oscar Pistorius to be in prison.
When we wrap up those arguments, the judge will give her sentencing and he should go straight back to jail -- Kristie.
LU STOUT: And what will be the fate of Oscar Pistorius? I mean, could he get the maximum
sentence, or is there a chance he could avoid prison time entirely?
MCKENZIE: Well, the defense is trying to argue that he is such a broken man, so psychologically scarred by this ordeal, and the focus from the
media, that he should go straight to hospital, rather than a prison. It's probably unlikely that will happen.
I expect that he'll go back to the maximum security prison he was during his year in prison for culpable homicide, but he is convicted of murder
after that state appeal. So we can expect a longer time, potentially much longer in prison. He should be back in the same private cell, in the
hospital wing of that prison, and he certainly, you know, will go straight from this court behind me into that prison, unless a very unlikely turn of
events happens. But, you know, he's heading back to jail.
LU STOUT: David McKenzie reporting for us live from Pretoria. Thank you, David.
Now, you're watching News Stream. And still ahead, the British prime minister faces questions on next week's EU referendum. What he had to say
to members of parliament about the impact of a vote to leave.
[08:31:41] LU STOUT: The World Health Organization has reassured athletes and tourists that there isn't a greater threat of the Zika virus spreading,
because of the Olympic games. And while that's good news for Olympic organizers, doctors in Rio say they have another problem.
Shasta Darlington explains.
SHASTA DARLINGTON, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Routines in Rio de Janeiro changing thanks to the Zika virus.
LAIS CRISBELLE, EXPECTANT MOTHER (through translator): I put repellent on my face, my hands, even on top of my clothes.
DARLINGTON: Repellent, long sleeves, avoid outdoors.
CRISBELLE (through translator): This is raw sewage, dirty water and there are mosquito larva.
DARLINGTON: Now six months pregnant, Lais Crisbelle lives in fear of the mosquito-borne disease.
CRISBELLE (through translator): Every month I go and do an ultrasound and it terrifies me
that will tell me my baby isn't developing, or the baby's head isn't growing.
DARLINGTON: She hasn't had Zika, but plenty of her friends and neighbors in the Vigifgal Favela (ph) have.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE (through translator): It was painful, especially in the joints and it itched everywhere.
DARLINGTON: Anna Maria Geges (ph) came down with it right after her sister and her cousin.
Rio has been one of the hardest-hit cities with more than 26,000 confirmed cases since January, but now we're headed into the winter months.
The mosquitoes that spread Zika die off in the cold weather, that's why many experts argue the virus won't pose a threat to visitors or athletes
during the games.
RICARDO BARNES, BRAZILIAN HEALTH MINISTER (through translator): According to a study done by the University of Cambridge, of the 500,000 foreign
tourists who will come, only one will get the Zika virus, so it's almost a zero risk.
DARLINGTON: Claudia Codeco (ph) says her research agrees.
CLAUDIA CODECO, BIOLOGIST: Zika is not a local problem anymore. This is not specific problem of Rio de Janeiro, or Brazil. This is already present
in 60 countries.
DARLINGTON: In fact, for Rio doctors, there's a much bigger threat to the Olympic games than Zika.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE (through translator): If there were a big catastrophe, an attack or a brawl, we don't have the infrastructure to deal with it.
DARLINGTON: He shows us photos of the hospital nearest the Olympic Park -- patients parked in the corridors. Thanks to the economic crisis, the wait
for emergency surgery is up to six days, he says.
Back in Vigigal (ph), relief that the spread of Zika has slowed. But Lais isn't letting her guard
Shasta Darlington, CNN, Rio de Janeiro.
LU STOUT: Now, the UK is just over a week away from a crucial vote on whether to stay in the EU. And just over an hour ago, Prime Minister David
Cameron faced questions on Brexit from lawmakers for the last time before the vote.
CNN's international diplomatic editor Nic Robertson joins us now with more from London. And Nic, during questions in parliament, how did David
Cameron do to make his case to stay in EU?
NIC ROBERTSON, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Well, I think he was helped in many ways by a lot of the questions. You had MPs from Scotland,
you had MPs from Wales, you had MPs from the middle of England basically saying to David Cameron, in essence, explain to my
constituency what you're saying to the whole country.
There's a real concern here that people, you know, don't trust the message, are not believing the politicians. The politicians are finding it hard to
get through to their constituents, through to the voters what's at stake for them. So, in a way, David Cameron was helped
But his core message, his message today, that and the message of his exchequer today, his minister of finance if you will, is that if Britain
votes to leave the economy will get worse. This is how he put it.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
DAVID CAMERON, BRITISH PRIME MINISTER: Many companies come to Britain and invest in Britain for many reasons, but one of the most important is access
to the single market of 500 million customers. And next week we have the opportunity to put our place in that single market beyond doubt, and I hope
that we wake up on June the 24th knowing that businesses are going to invest
more in our country, create more jobs in our country, see more growth in our country, because that will help the families of our country, and the
unemployment figures today, another welcome fall in unemployment, we can see continued progress.
Let's keep our country moving forward.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
ROBERTSON: Well, we also heard from the prime minister as well is that if there is a Brexit, a vote to leave the European Union, that will put the
British economy is such a bad situation it would require an emergency budget, there would be a 30 billion pound black hole, that's about $42
billion black hole in the economy that would force the government therefore in this budget to raise taxes, reduce public spending on areas like the
national health service.
The leave campaign, of course, say that right now Britain spends, gives, about half a billion dollars a week to the European Union. That it if they
didn't have to do that then that money could be spent on the health service, the health service -- public services are really an area where
people feel this and sort of shape their opinions most about, or quite significantly about which way they'll vote.
So, really, what the prime minister is coming back to in this late stages of trying to galvanize people to come out and vote is, it's the economy
that's going to suffer. That's why it's important to vote -- Kristie.
LU STOUT: And, Nic, right now on the Thames, UK and the Nigel Farage, they're using a
flotilla to send a clear message for a Brexit. How is that being received?
ROBERTSON: Well, what Nijel Farage is doing -- Nigel Farage is a charismatic figurehead of part of the leave campaign. He is very -- he
knows really well how to sort of organize a press event, stage an event like this, and the fishermen, look, the fishermen of Britain have long been
angered by the European Union. They've had, they've seen their quotas, the amount of fish that they're able to catch, limited. It's put a lot of them
out of business. Some of them have even been told -- and we're talking about significant numbers of fishermen here -- that they've been forced to
sell their boats under European legislation. We're talking about million dollar -- multimillion dollar pound vessels and literally, that are maybe several years old, and
have them scrapped.
So, what Nigel Farage has done here is bring out a group, a constituency of sort workers if you
will around the country that are already deeply opposed to the European Union. The fishermen, I mean, there are some that support remaining in the
European Union, but by and large they don't.
So, I don't think he's going to win over any additional fishermen, I think we already know which way they're going to vote, but he's by bringing this
into the center of London is really trying to create, you know, a fanfare around the leave campaign.
Both sides are looking at all angles. It is really tight. Right now the polls say that there's a momentum with the leave campaign, that various
different polling. The leave campaign is between 1 percent and 7 percent ahead in the polls.
Everyone is pulling out the last stops to convince people right now.
LU STOUT: Oh, and the referendum a week away. Nic Robertson reporting for us, thank you.
Now, you're watching News Stream. Still to come on the program, a '70s classic and the famous rock band who may or may not have composed it. Led
Zeppelin on trial accused of stealing to create Stairway to Heaven.
[08:40:38] LU STOUT: Welcome back.
So did Led Zeppelin steal the opening to its famous song Stairway to Heaven? Now, that question is at center of a trial in the U.S. Now, the
suit claims that the rock band stole part of a song called Taurus by the band Spirit.
Paul Vercammen has more from Los Angeles.
[08:41:02] PAUL VERCAMMEN, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Led Zeppelin superstars Robert Plant and Jimmy Page walked into court dressed for business -- black
suits, long hair neatly pulled back into ponytails. They intently listened as the copyright infringement suit got under way.
In the opening statements, the lawyers for the estate of Randy California Wolf (ph), he is the late singer/songwriter of the '60s band Spirit, they
basically assert that Led Zeppelin took the first 2 minutes and 14 seconds of the rock anthem Stairway to Heaven from the
Spirit, Randy California song, Taurus.
FRANCIS MALOFY, ATTORNY FOR ESTATE OF RANDY CALIFORNIA: It's irrefutable. If you listen to the sound recording, if you listen to the actual
composition, it's the notes itself which are very distinct, unique and they're the same.
VERCAMMEN: The lawyer for Randy California's estate also pointing out that at one point Led Zeppelin actually opened for the band Spirit.
Now the counter, Led Zeppelin's attorney saying Plant -- Robert Plant and Jimmy Page and no one else period wrote Stairway to Heaven. He said they
weren't aware of the song from Spirit Taurus until long after Stairway to Heaven had been written.
They have a impaneled, as they do in federal court here, a four women, four man jury, so that's eight jurors. The trial was not without some moments
of levity. In fact, while they were picking the jury, one perspective juror proclaimed his love for Plant and Page, another said he learned
Stairway to Heaven, his first song ever, on the guitar.
Predictable, both of them did not make the jury cut. Reporting from federal court in Los Angeles, I'm Paul Vercammen,
Now back to you.
LU STOUT: And that is News Stream. I'm Kristie Lu Stout. But don't go anywhere. World Sport with Christina Macfarlane is next.