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Turkey Implicates ISIS in airport suicide attacks; Aide Testifies in Clinton E-Mail Investigation; Trump Calls for Banning of Some Republicans. Aired 10:30-11:00a

Aired June 30, 2016 - 10:30   ET

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[10:32:30] CAROL COSTELLO, CNN HOST: And good morning, I'm Carol Costello, thank you so much for joining me. Turkey more firmly implicating ISIS this morning. A senior government source telling CNN that the terror group's leadership appears to have helped plot the attack on Istanbul's airport. This after we learned the nationalities of the three suicide bombers.

They're from Russia, Uzbekistan, and Kyrgyzstan. The source says there's strong evidence they entered Turkey from the ISIS stronghold of Raqqa in Syria. In the meantime, Turkish police encounter terrorists and troops have detained 22 people, including several foreign nationals.

Just around dawn the raids swept across the capital and along the coast. The death toll though, continues to climb to 43 after two of the wounded died of their injuries. Nearly 100 people remain in the hospital this morning. Let's begin our coverage with CNN's Brooke Baldwin, she's in Istanbul. Hi Brooke.

BROOKE BALDWIN, CNN HOST, "NEWSROOM": Hi Carol, good afternoon here. Just in front of the airport. You know, blue skies, it is a warm Thursday afternoon. You see all the traffic streaming behind me. You would never know a lot of the glass panes have already been replaced in this airport. You wouldn't know what had happened here just two nights ago.

Let me bring you up to speed, also just to underscore some of the headlines you just rolled through here, from Istanbul. A lot of new information today beginning with the fact, from the senior Turkish official to CNN. This source telling us, as you said, that there is strong evidence that these three suicide bombers came here into Turkey from the ISIS stronghold of Raqqa in Syria, maybe a month ago.

In fact they've locked down a specific apartment where they were renting for the last month. One of the bombers actually left behind on accident, or perhaps not, his passport and it was a Russian passport. And that's how they've begun connecting the dots.

You mentioned ISIS leadership. And also according to this senior Turkish source, that it was actually the ISIS leaders, themselves, who were helping plan this particular attack, here at the airport. And also significant that the suicide vest, the explosives they brought in and ultimately detonated right in front of this airport and just inside, apparently were made from outside of Turkey. Would have been made from someone separate, specifically a bomb maker, a sophisticated bomb maker. And then would have brought them in and these three bombers would have used them.

Again, yes, these three bombers, we've learned the nationalities here today. You mentioned one is from Russia. Specifically the Black Sea region of Dagestan. And if that sounds familiar, when we were covering the Boston bombing just a couple of years ago, those Tsarnaev brothers, they had briefly lived in Dagestan before then moving to the United States. Also significant today, we have seen video from a Turkish TV station,

Haberturk, and it shows the -- one of these three attackers reportedly shooting one of the security officers, one of the police officers, just in front of the airport, who asked to show ID. Reportedly he was asking one of the attackers to show his ID and that is when he opened fire.

And then just of course, lastly, the death toll has risen to 43 and 94 people, Carol, 94 are still being treated here at the hospital.

[10:35:38] COSTELLO: All right, Brooke Baldwin reporting live from Istanbul this morning. Thank you. So let's talk about all of this with CNN National Security Analyst and author of "United States of Jihad: Investigating America's homegrown terrorists," Peter Bergen. Hi Peter.

PETER BERGEN, CNN NATIONAL SECURITY ANALYST: Morning, Carol.

COSTELLO: Good morning. So what do you make of this? ISIS leadership directly planned these attacks. What do you make of that?

BERGEN: Well you know, I think what is absolutely fascinating here, Carol, is the fact that we have Russian, Kyrgyz, and Uzbek suicide attackers. And I think for a lot of viewers that might be surprising, who think of ISIS as predominantly an Arab group with recruits from places like Britain and France.

But in fact, according to a wide variety of Russian sources, we have estimates of anywhere from 2,000 as high as 7,000 Russians who've joined ISIS now. Even allowing some room for Russian propaganda. Afterall Russia is heavily involved in Syria.

We can certainly say that in terms of normal (ph) to the majority of countries, Russia is providing the largest number of recruits to ISIS, even more than the French. I mean, Carol, you'll recall that the French are -- have provided the largest numbers of Europeans who've gone to ISIS. At least 1,500.

West Point's counterterrorism center has found thousands of ISIS documents and analyzed them and found that Russia was one of the top countries after countries like Saudi Arabia, which has provided and -- or Tunisia -- which have provided so many foreign fighters.

So as we get into this we'll find that not only are Russians providing a lot of the manpower to ISIS, we also know that there are Russian leaders of ISIS. For instance a guy called Omar the Chechen who may have been killed in a CIA -- in a drone strike earlier this year. But he had a $5 million reward on his head from the State Department.

So there are Russian leaders in ISIS, there are many Russian foot soldiers in ISIS. There's even Russian language magazines ... go ahead.

COSTELLO: So I'm just a little confused about what Russia is doing, exactly, over Syria. Because it seems to be protecting the government of Bashar al-Assad. And not exactly fighting ISIS when it has its own problems with ISIS.

BERGEN: Well that's true because Russia has kind of competing interests. The main interest it has is preserving their regime. Because of course, Russia has a port in Western Syria. It's the only warm water port that Russia has. It's on the Mediterranean. And that's vital for Russian national security interests. So their main interest is preserving the regime.

Their secondary interest is going after Islamist groups such as ISIS or others. But they haven't really done much of that so I think you point out an irony here. Which is of course, Russia is at war with Islamist militants in places like Chechnya. That's why some of these Chechens have gone to Syria. The New Yorker has reported -- there's a reporter, very good reporter, Josh Yaffa, writing for the New Yorker -- he estimated based on discussions with Chechen security services, there might be several thousand Chechens who've gone to fight in Syria.

So anyway I think the main point here is that for people who might have been thinking that ISIS is predominantly Arab with some Western Europeans -- Jihadi John of course being a Brit -- this is going to open people's eyes to the fact that there's very substantial Russian, former Soviet Union presence within ISIS. Both in terms of the foot soldiers and the leaders.

COSTELLO: Interesting. Peter Bergen, thanks for your insight, as always. Still to come in the Newsroom, a broken pledge has Donald Trump fuming. Why the candidate says people like Jeb Bush and Ted Cruz should be barred from office.

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[10:43:53] COSTELLO: As Donald Trump readies for a general election battle, it appears he's still licking wounds from a primary fight. Calling out old rivals for failing to fall into line behind him.

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DONALD TRUMP (R), PRESUMPTIVE PRESIDENTIAL NOMINEE: They signed a pledge saying they will abide, saying they will back the candidate of the party. And now they sit back, and the pledge is out there, and the press doesn't even go after them on that. They broke their word, in my opinion, they should never be allowed to run for public office again. Because what they did is disgraceful.

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COSTELLO: Jason Carroll joins us now. He's following the rough road for the -- to the Republican Party for Donald Trump.

JASON CARROLL, CNN NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: And it does get rough, especially when you have Trump talking about some of his former contenders there. I mean look, he -- we should say some of them, not all of them, he spoke very highly of Ben Carson.

You know he didn't name names, but you know clearly he's probably talking about people like Jeb Bush, people like Ted Cruz, Governor Kasich. None of these people have endorsed him, even remember when he gave his speech in Ohio. John Kasich, not there for that. When I called his office, Kasich's office basically said that he had other things to do, meetings to take care of.

You think of someone like New Mexico's governor, Susana Martinez, she wasn't there either. So clearly there are a lot of people who aren't getting behind him. Why? Well a couple things. First of all you've got the rhetoric. You've got some of his policies that some of the GOP are not in line with.

When you think of some of his trade proposals, that just being some of them. I want to bring in someone who spoke very, very, very strongly about why he is not endorsing Donald Trump, Senator Mike Lee from Utah. Let's take a listen to that.

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SENATOR MIKE LEE (R), UTAH: He accused my best friend's father of conspiring to kill JFK. We can go through the fact that he's made some statements that some have identified correctly as religiously intolerant. We can get into the fact he's wildly unpopular in my state. I hope I can get over these concerns. I hope Mister Trump can help me identify them. But don't sit here and tell me, Steve, that I have no reason to be concerned about Donald Trump.

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CARROLL: And of course, Senator Lee referring to Ted Cruz, as you know, during the primary there, Trump had insinuated that Cruz's father had somehow been involved with the Kennedy assassination. An example of more of that rhetoric; when I was listening to Trump's speech in Ohio -- you know when he was talking about trade, he was talking about TPP and why it needed to go -- he compared the TPP to rape -- to the rape of the country. And even among his supporters there in the audience, that raised more than a few eyebrows ...

COSTELLO: Even just the language that he used.

CARROLL: The language that he used. And this is what's making so many in the GOP uncomfortable. But you know, remember what Trump says. He says, I don't need these endorsements. I can go with them, I can go without them.

[10:46:40]COSTELLO: All right, Jason Carroll, thanks so much. So on the Hillary Clinton side, on the Democratic side, Hillary Clinton's use of a private e-mail server continues to dog her campaign. In newly released testimony, her top aide, Huma Abedin, said Clinton's e- mail of the then Secretary of State doing her job. Including one instance where Clinton missed a phone call with a foreign official because she never received the e-mail.

When asked about a message where Clinton discussed the issue, writing, "let's get a separate address or device. I don't want any risk of a personal being accessible." Abedin testified that Clinton was referring to the hesitation anyone might feel about personal messages being read by others. So let's talk about all of this with two of our political commentators. Donald Trump supporter, Jeffrey Lord. And former Clinton campaign manager, Patti Solis Doyle. Welcome to both of you.

PATTI SOLIS DOYLE, FORMER HILLARY CLINTON CAMPAIGN MANAGER: Thank you.

JEFFREY LORD, TRUMP SUPPORTER: Happy slow news day, Carol.

COSTELLO: It has been quite a morning, you're right about that, Jeffrey. I'd like to first talk about the Ohio governor, John Kasich. He sent out a campaign e-mail to raise money for dowd dilate (ph) Republicans. But also included in that e-mail was this, "Under a model electorate, Trump loses every swing state by 6 to 12 points. Governor Kasich wins 6 out of 7 swing states. Speaker Ryan wins 2 out of 7 swing states."

Jeffrey, that sounds a lot like John Kasich has a dream in Cleveland that does not involve Trump -- Donald Trump or his candidacy.

LORD: Is John Kasich the governor of Ohio or the governor of Colorado? I mean is he eating the brownies? I don't know. It's over, it's over. What really does astonish me here is the lack of grace and good sportsmanship. It's done. Voters -- forget Donald Trump -- the voters of the Republican Party have made their decision. As have, for that matter, the voters of the Democratic Party.

And it just seems to me that you need to suck it up and get on with it. And the fact that they continue to do this, frankly, is going to damage them. For any of these folks that think that they've got a future in the Republican Party, they are going to damage themselves.

COSTELLO: Well but Donald Trump says he can unify the Party. He's saying that if these -- if John Kasich doesn't follow the pledge to support him or endorse him, then he shouldn't serve in office anymore. Is that the way to get someone on your side?

LORD: Well everybody talks about the responsibility of the nominee. And that's correct, that is correct. Donald Trump does have that responsibility. Any nominee has a responsibility. But all these other folks are Party leaders, in and of themselves. Speaker Ryan, Governor Kasich, former Governor Bush. They are leaders of the Republican Party. They too have a responsibility and they are not fulfilling it.

COSTELLO: OK so Patti, on the Democratic side, Bernie Sanders is not exactly enthusiastically jumped aboard the Hillary train, right? He's still in the race. And Mister Trump knows it. This is what he said at a rally.

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TRUMP: Bernie Sanders cannot stand Hillary Clinton. But I'll tell you something, you wouldn't think this, you wouldn't think this, but there is one thing that Bernie Sanders and I are in complete accord with. And that's trade. He said we're being ripped off, I say we're being ripped off. I've been saying it for years, he's been saying it for years.

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COSTELLO: So Patti, what is up with Bernie Sanders?

DOYLE: Look, I'm happy to have the contrast on the Democratic side versus the Republican sides in terms of party unity. You know the night that Hillary sort of clinched the nomination, that Tuesday night, the day after, we had Barack Obama come out and endorse her. We had Elizabeth Warren come out and endorse her.

And Bernie Sanders has said that he will do everything he can to make sure Donald Trump is not elected to the presidency. And he has said that he will vote for Hillary Clinton, and that he's not likely to get the nomination. I think he's using ...

COSTELLO: I have read, I have read, Patti, that some Hillary supporters are kind of getting tired of Bernie back (ph). They're upset with him.

DOYLE: I think he's using -- look, he ran a fantastic campaign, a very strong campaign. He had brought all of these millenials to the table, to the process, and that is great. And he's obviously using his leverage to try and get what he feels needs to be done at the convention, and in the platform.

But as days pass, I think his leverage is diminishing. Because we have Elizabeth Warren, the other standard bear (ph) for the progressive movement, out there campaigning with Hillary Clinton. And the more she does that, I think the more people are going to say "Bernie who?" So I think he really needs to speed it up a little bit.

COSTELLO: All right I have to leave it there. Jeffrey Lord, Patti Solis Doyle ...

LORD: Thanks, Carol.

COSTELLO: ... thanks to both of you for being with me this morning.

DOYLE: Thank you.

COSTELLO: Still to come in the Newsroom, we're all used to our tiny little phones. But remember having one of these babies? Sadly, I do. We'll take you back to the 80s, next.

[10:51:40] (COMMERCIAL BREAK) [10:56:00] COSTELLO: Everybody talks on the go today but back in the 80s, cell phones were ground-breaking technology. From clunky car phones to holding one in the palm of your hand, we revisit the birth of mobile phones.

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KEVIN MANEY, AUTHOR: When these things were first starting to pop up in the mid-1980s, the customers were people that had a business reason for having these things. Or some super rich dude who just, you know, wanted to show off.

The big breakthrough idea was this idea of cellular systems.

UNKNOWN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): It's called cellular because your car phone is tied into different radio transmitters, each one called a "cell." And as you travel, the signal from your phone travels from cell to cell.

MANEY: This is something that had never been done before.

UNKNOWN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): If you don't have one now, you probably will have one in a decade, say the phone makers. As the price comes down into the range of other high-tech toys.

MARTIN COOPER, CELL PHONE INVENTOR: There were people that understood, even in the early days, that being trapped in a car was not freedom. People are fundamentally, naturally mobile.

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COSTELLO: Oh man. Senior Technology Correspondent, Laurie Segall joins me now. And I actually had each of these products, I owned them at one time in my life.

LAURIE SEGALL, CNN SENIOR TECHNOLOGY CORRESPONDENT: Welcome to the eighties. I present you with the eighties here, on set. You remember this cell phone? So ...

COSTELLO: Oh my gosh.

SEGALL: The earliest versions of the cell phones that everyone was available -- that was available for everyone, was the Motorola. Now this is an ...

COSTELLO: Looks so different.

SEGALL: ... I know. Check this out, right? So and this one, the earliest versions though only had 30 minutes of battery life. It cost something like $4,000. I keep going back to Zack Morris from "Saved By The Bell." I guess that was the nineties, with like, it was affectionately called "the brick phone."

So obviously these days things are a little bit smaller. And then one of the big things in the eighties, I mean this was the era where gaming at home was popular. Say you had Atari, this is the company behind a lot of this. And who could forget, I have to show you guys this, the E.T. game.

Carol, this game was infamous. Because you are looking at what is known as one of the worst video games of all time. It was so bad that it is rumored that they buried the unsold video games -- the unsold games in the desert in New Mexico. I kid you not. Of course ...

COSTELLO: Under all the radioactive material.

SEGALL: ... right? And of course this is replaced by Nintendo and Sega, and this story goes on and on. But also the walkman. We can't talk about the eighties without the walkman. Because you remember going for a run and listening to the -- your walkman ...

COSTELLO: Oh yeah.

SEGALL: ... and it's just like, "yeah." That this is like the soundtrack to your life. You could have your music anywhere, at any time when you wanted. And this was revolutionary. This was magical.

COSTELLO: But look at that tape.

SEGALL: Right? And now we have our iPod or we have our phone. And then of course, the boombox, right? And there was something very special about what the boombox did in the eighties with hip-hop and bringing music to the streets. And this idea that you could listen as a group.

So, so much of the technology that came from the eighties, although it looks enormous now, really kind of paved way for what we have today. Like ...

COSTELLO: I remember, I remember running with the walkman and you know, you held it in one hand, so this arm would be very fit ...

SEGALL: Right.

COSTELLO: ... and this arm would be flabby.

SEGALL: Right, and it's like everything gets smaller and smaller. And it's so funny because I was watching this -- I saw part of the documentary that's airing tonight -- and you have anchors describing technology. And they're describing the cell phone technology. And it's so new and interesting. And I'm thinking about myself years ago describing something like Uber on television and saying, "imagine if you could get a -- you could get a car with your smart phone. Imagine what that would be like."

And I was just thinking, years down the road there's going to be a documentary with me saying this stuff ...

COSTELLO: I know and once they've seen everything's going to be implanted into our body.

SEGALL: I know, right?

COSTELLO: So there's a reason you're doing this. There's a special tonight, right?

SEGALL: Yes, yes of course. It's airing tonight so you'll have to check it out. It really kind of -- it delves into personal computing and all sorts of things. And it really -- tech in the eighties was so special in what it did for us today. So it's really interesting to take a peek inside of that day (ph).

COSTELLO: See, the eighties was more than about bad hair and really ugly clothes.

SEGALL: No I did have that in the eighties as well. I'm glad there are no pictures of that.

COSTELLO: There are no pictures of your bad hair?

SEGALL: No, not that they're showing right now.

COSTELLO: I'm calling your mom.

SEGALL: Please do not search, do not call my mother. She might actually send those.

COSTELLO: Laurie Segall thanks so much.

SEGALL: Thank you.

COSTELLO: And thank you for joining me today. I'm Carol Costello. AT THIS HOUR with Berman and Bolduan starts now.