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13 Detained in Turkey Terror Raids; Trump Abandons Conservative Trade Gospel; President: Trump Isn't a Populist; Michael Phelps Headed to Rio. Aired 5-5:30a ET

Aired June 30, 2016 - 05:00   ET

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[05:00:06] CHRISTINE ROMANS, CNN ANCHOR: Death toll rising in the Turkey terror attack. Forty-two people now dead, hundreds injured as we learn new information on how the three suicide bombers carried out their airport attack. And new this morning, 13 detained in raids overnight linked to those attacks.

All right. Good morning and welcome to EARLY START. I'm Christine Romans.

MIGUEL MARQUEZ, CNN ANCHOR: And I'm Miguel Marquez. It is Thursday, June 30th, 5:00 a.m. here on the East Coast.

Breaking news at this hour, the death toll rising in the Istanbul airport terror attack. Officials say 42 people now dead after one woman taken to an Istanbul hospital later died. More than 230 people injured in that attack. World leaders believe it was carried out by ISIS.

Surveillance video now giving us a closer look at the attackers who opened fire before blowing themselves up. None of the terrorists have been identified so far, but senior Turkish officials tell CNN they believe the attackers were foreign.

New information also coming into CNN on how the attack was carried out and this in just the last few minutes, word of a raid in Istanbul, 13 people detained in connection with the airport attack.

For the latest on that, we turn to CNN's Alexandra Field live for us in Istanbul.

Alex, it sounds like a big break perhaps in this case.

ALEXANDRA FIELD: Hey there, Miguel. It is not clear if there is any direct connection to this attack, but we know that it has prompted these counterterrorism operations. We understand that police went to 16 different locations sweeping up 13 suspected militants within the last day. So again, not clear if there is any direct connection to this, but certainly this has triggered or prompted these counterterrorism operations. On top of that, as they proceed in this investigation into what

happened at this airport, we know he that they have located the taxi driver who dropped off the three bombers at this airport. He did provide police with a statement. We don't know whether it was in any way helpful towards leading police to the different locations that they have targeted now in these counterterrorism raids.

But officials have not released the identity of the three attackers. We do know a bit more about the style of the attacks. The three then were armed with AK-47s, they were also wearing suicide vests. While this is an airport that has a high level of security, it exceeds the international standards according to airport authorities.

We know that these men were able to carry out the attacks, one inside the departure hall, he was spotted by a security guard who fired on him. He then fell to the ground and detonated his explosive. Another attacker went to the arrivals hall, he started firing his AK-47 into the crowd. The crowd dispersed and this map detonated his suicide vest before he had cleared the security gate, which is posted at the front of that building.

Then, of course, there was the third attacker who detonated his bomb just outside the international hall here. More than 100 people remain hospitalized with the injuries that were sustained in this deadly and coordinated attack, 42 killed. They represent citizens from a number of different countries. At least 13 foreign nationals were killed in these attacks. And, Miguel, Christine, not all of the dead have been identified at this point.

MARQUEZ: Alexandra Field for us in Istanbul, thank you very much.

ROMANS: And still so much wounded. Many wondering this morning why is would attack Turkey, a Muslim country that for years the terror group has relied on actually as a vital transit hub and supply line.

CIA director John Brennan believes Turkey may now be paying the price for helping the U.S.-led coalition fight ISIS in the region.

Within the past year, Turkey started sealing its border, arresting and deporting suspected militants. The country has taken in millions of refugees from Syria, a main ISIS battle front. And last summer, Turkey let the U.S. fly air strikes against ISIS out of Incirlik Air Base in southern Turkey.

The CIA chief says he's not surprised ISIS did not formally claim responsibility for the airport attack.

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JOHN BRENNAN, CIA DIRECTOR: At least in most instances, if not all, ISIS has not claimed credit or responsibility for attacks that are perpetrated inside of Turkey. I think what they do is they carry out these attacks to gain the benefits from it in terms of sending a signal to our Turkish partners, at the same time not wanting to alienate some of individuals inside of Turkey that they may still be trying to gain the support of. The United States, as we all know, is leading the coalition to try to

destroy as much of this poison inside of Syria and Iraq as possible. So, it would be surprising to me that ISIL is not trying to hit us both in the region as well as in our homeland. If anybody here believes that, you know, the U.S. homeland is hermetically sealed and that Daesh or ISIL would not consider that, I think I would guard against that.

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[05:05:10] MARQUEZ: Now, joining us to help break down the attack on the airport and its link to the war on terror, Turkish media reporting now 13 people have been detain this had 16 different raids in connection with that airport attack.

We now bring in CNN military analyst, Colonel Cedric Leighton, former member of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.

Good morning. Thank you very much for being with us.

These arrests certainly are likely linked to the attack here. What do you make of the fact that the Turks opened the airport so quickly and seemed to be less quick on the investigation side?

CEDRIC LEIGHTON, CNN MILITARY ANALYST: It's interesting, Miguel, because one of the big things that happens in investigations like this is that you need a lot of forensic evidence in order to make sure that you have an ironclad case. And generally I was certainly, like you were, surprised that the Turks opened the airport as quickly as possible, but I think what they did was in the end, they made a business decision and they basically said this airport must be open, it has such a shear huge volume of passengers every year that they can't afford to close the airport for a long period of time.

So they wanted to send not only a business signal but also a signal to ISIS that no matter what they do, the Turks are resilient and that they're going to fight back both by actions, you know, such as the arrest of the 13, as well as opening airports and making sure that their businesses can continue.

ROMANS: You heard the sound bite from the CIA chief and how he talked about ISIS knows that the United States is not hermetically sealed. What about airport security in this country? Do you think these targets and that they are a prize for either self-radicalized or directed by ISIS terrorists?

LEIGHTON: Oh, Christine, I think it's very clear that one of the big threats that airports face not only in the U.S. but around the world is the insider threat. So, basically what that means is the people that work in the airports, you have to be careful that we understand exactly where they come from, what their political affiliations in the sense of are they radical, are they not radical? Those kinds of things, it becomes very important to know all of that.

And it also becomes important to know what their actions are. And I don't think our vetting process is as ironclad as it needs to be when it comes to airport security and airport employees. Most are great people and they will be absolutely trustworthy, but every now and then, it just takes one to do something like this. And it becomes very important to make sure that we protect against the insider threat and external threat.

MARQUEZ: It does sound like that ISIS is the most likely culprit here. But it has been a tough time and very uncertain time in Turkey politically, economically, other ways. Certainly, the U.S. flies out of Incirlik into Syria, cutting off of borders, and the arrests of many ISIS is a good reason, but Turkey is dealing with a lot of other issues with the PKK, with its own economy, with the outside world and with Europe.

I mean, are you as certain that this is in fact ISIS?

LEIGHTON: Based on the methods used in this attack, Miguel, I would say it's highly likely that it is ISIS. Most of the internal opposition to President Erdogan is not going to use these kinds of techniques, that includes the Kurdish PKK opposition.

Now, they come close as perhaps in term of techniques to being able to do something like this, but it's highly unlikely that they would do this. Therefore, ISIS is probably the most likely candidate. Other possible scenarios would include the Syrian government or somebody like that.

But the Syrian government has its own reasons for not doing something like this. So I think ISIS -- the fingers all point in that direction, and I think ISIS is the most likely candidate at this point in time barring any other evidence that is out there.

ROMANS: That's certainly seems to be the case.

Colonel Cedric Leighton, thank you so much for that, Colonel, for getting up so early for us this morning.

MARQUEZ: Thank you very much.

LEIGHTON: You bet.

MARQUEZ: President Obama unleashed a rant against Donald Trump's style of populism. That coming up.

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[05:13:51] ROMANS: All right. The president disputing the idea Donald Trump is spearheading a campaign seeking to represent the interests of ordinary people. The president says he's not representing ordinary people.

During a news conference in Canada, the president went on a tear about populism. Without mentioning Trump by name, he said in part that anyone who has never shown regard for workers or fought behalf of any social justice issues is not for the American people.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) BARACK OBAMA, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: They don't suddenly become a populist because they say something controversial in order to win votes. That's not the measure of populism. That's nativism, or xenophobia, or worse. Or it's just cynicism.

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ROMANS: It's so fascinating, the president's comments yesterday.

You know, he almost --

MARQUEZ: Never seen him quite so angry.

ROMANS: Yes, and he didn't mention Trump by name, but he talked about sort of this -- almost like a faux populism, someone try to represent the American people but didn't represent anyone but himself until now, and that seems to be what the president -- and he talked a lot about trade.

[05:15:01] You know, when you hear the president sort of embracing globalization and free trade, you know, with caveats, of course.

MARQUEZ: But clearly upset with the direction of this campaign so far and the way it's been hijacked by Trump.

ROMANS: Absolutely. On the trade issue yesterday, this fight between Donald Trump and the U.S. Chamber of Commerce really moving even higher. U.S. Chamber of Commerce came out after Donald Trump's trade speech and basically said, look, he's going to cause job loss, high prices, that Donald Trump is against -- look at that under Donald Trump's trade plan, higher prices, fewer jobs and weaker economy. Even under the best scenario, Trump's tariffs would strip us with at least 3.5 million jobs.

And then, Trump just, you know, bashed the U.S. Chamber of Commerce and said they hold to special interests.

MARQUEZ: For reasons only they can explain, the U.S. Chamber of Commerce wants to continue our bad trade deals rather than renegotiating and making them better. We actually have a SOT from -- or a sound bite from Donald Trump from one of his speeches.

ROMANS: Let's listen to what he said.

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DONALD TRUMP (R), PRESUMPTIVE PRESIDENTIAL NOMINEE: The U.S. Chamber of Commerce is totally controlled by the special interest groups. Just so you understand it. And there are special interests that want to have the deals that they want to have. They want to have TPP, Trans Pacific Partnership. One of the worst deals -- it will be the worst deal since NAFTA.

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ROMANS: It's so interesting because the business community, you know, the Chamber of Commerce and others, they think that globalization is just a natural progression of events. It's not something you turn on or turn off. Donald Trump wants to change globalization or slow globalization.

MARQUEZ: Not everybody in the globalization game has benefited as others.

ROMANS: No.

MARQUEZ: So he's tapping into that clearly. But you deal with these people every day. What is their reaction to -- I mean business leaders are typically more conservative in there by nature?

ROMANS: They are. But they're also pragmatic. So, they're trying to figure out what does a President Trump look like. Many did not think he would be the nominee and now he is and you have years of Republican Party orthodoxy that Donald Trump is rejecting.

You know, Donald Trump turning upside so many of the pillars of the Republican Party, and that's why his supporters like him, because they feel as though -- we had a survey yesterday that 73 percent of Americans think that the economy is rigged to favor somebody else, not them. Interesting.

MARQUEZ: Trump also making a play for Bernie Sanders supporters. Here's what he said about them.

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TRUMP: Bernie Sanders cannot stand Hillary Clinton. But I'll tell you something, you this, you wouldn't think this, but there is one thing that Bernie Sanders and I are in complete accord with. And that's trade.

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ROMANS: And Bernie Sanders did an op-ed in the "New York Times" yesterday and I was reading if it didn't say by Bernie Sanders, it could be Donald Trump.

MARQUEZ: Except Bernie Sanders -- do we really think that Bernie Sanders supporters will support Trump at the end of the day?

ROMANS: No, but there is overlap on their positions in trade.

MARQUEZ: I'm not sure voters make their decisions that way. All that being said, new polls show Hillary Clinton is up -- although I think polls at this point, what people will do in November based on what they think now is completely useless. Absolutely useless.

But the trend seems to be there. I mean, every poll that comes out seems to show Hillary up by at least a few points.

ROMANS: Yes, brand new FOX News poll, 44 percent Clinton to Donald Trump 38 percent. And that's a widening lead for Hillary Clinton. Again, 130 some days until the election and poll this is far out as you say are useless, but there you go.

MARQUEZ: Yes, here we are. Amazing.

ROMANS: Does trade kill U.S. jobs? That is the central question. Many primary voters on both sides say yes.

CNN Money analyzed years of trade deals and economic statistics and found, oh, it's not that simple. About 5.5 million jobs have been lost over the past 25 years, 5.5 million. Nearly a million have returned since the recession.

Experts say there are several factors contributing to the drop. Free trade is one. But it's not the biggest. Harvard economist tells us that that accounts only for free trade for about 5 percent of the overall job losses.

Technology is the bigger factor. It requires more skilled workers. And in some cases machines replace workers all together.

Plus, corporate America was already shifting jobs overseas where it could pay workers less. That is just natural globalization encouraged by technology. Experts say that would have happened regardless of any trade deals.

But did those requirements make the situation worse? Factory jobs increased after NAFTA was signed, making it easier for U.S. companies to get their goods into foreign markets, but NAFTA also allowed move production to Mexico which eliminated jobs.

So, there has been a listening debate about whether NAFTA on balance has been good for American jobs.

MARQUEZ: I think what is clear, especially after the 2008 recession is that we are in a massive transition.

[05:20:01] ROMANS: Absolutely.

MARQUEZ: As big as the Industrial Revolution, or anything else.

ROMANS: And I just reported, that -- you know, three quarters of the jobs created since the recession have gone to people with bachelor's agree or higher.

MARQUEZ: May we live in interesting times.

ROMANS: We certainly do.

MARQUEZ: History for Michael Phelps securing a spot in yet another Olympics. Andy Scholes explains in this morning's bleacher report, coming up next.

Hello there, Andy.

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[05:25:04] MARQUEZ: Michael Phelps, the most decorated Olympian ever, is doing what he does best, swimming like a shark. Earning a spot in the Rio Games for a record fifth straight Olympic Games.

ROMANS: Andy Scholes has more in this morning's bleacher report.

Hey, Andy.

ANDY SCHOLES, CNN SPORTS CORRESPONDENT: Hey. Good morning, guys.

You know, Michael Phelps, the first American swimmer to ever qualify for five Olympics. He'll be looking to add to his record 22 medals in Rio. Phelps' seven-week-old son Boomer watching dad swim again last night in Omaha and Phelps easily winning the 200 butterfly final. Once he saw the result, he held the five.

After the race, Phelps posting on Instagram, a picture of him signing a giant flip flop with the caption, "I'm going to Rio. So pumped. #number5."

Today, actually, Phelps' 31st birthday. So happy birthday for him.

All right. Things not looking good for the Yankees against the Rangers last night. They were up four at one point in the ninth inning, but Brian McCann came with the plate with two on, hit a three run to tie the game, and then two batters later, Didi Gregorius hits a walk off to win for New York.

Check this out, A-Rod was waiting for Gregorius with open arms to celebrate, but Gregorius -- watch this -- blows right by him and jumps into the scrum at the plate. Only funny because it's A-Rod.

All right. Colts quarterback Andrew Luck is now the highest paid player in the NFL. Luck inking a new six year $140 million deal, that's going to keep him in Indianapolis until 2021. Luck only played games last season due to many injuries, including a lacerated kidney.

All right. Marcus Willis' fairy tale run at Wimbledon coming to an end yesterday at the hands of Roger Federer. Willis who still lives with his parents is ranked 722nd in the world. Lowest ranked player to win a match in a grand slam in nearly 30 years. Now, Federer easily beat him, but Willis had his moments winning multiple games and doing that against arguably the greatest player, well, that was a win in itself.

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MARCUS WILLIS, NO. 772 RANKED PLAYER: Amazing. Not my standard Wednesday though. Next Wednesday might be quite different.

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SCHOLES: You know, guys, Willis has only earned about $300, $350 on tour this year. This week at Wimbledon, he made over $66,000. So definitely an awesome week for him. And he may have a book deal in the making after this.

ROMANS: And then he can move out from his parents' house. Not yet.

MARQUEZ: And I knew, the eagle is born, I think.

ROMANS: Awesome. All right. Thank you, Andy.

SCHOLES: Have a good one guys.

MARQUEZ: Breaking news this morning, 13 people in police custody in Turkey. Overnight raids linked to the Istanbul airport attack. We're live with new details next.

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