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Dhaka Attackers all Bangladeshi; Thousands Say No to Brexit in Protest; FBI Interviews Clinton, Charges Unlikely; Elie Wiesel Dead at 87. Aired 12-12:30a ET

Aired July 03, 2016 - 00:00   ET

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NATALIE ALLEN, CNN ANCHOR (voice-over): Bangladesh begins two days of mourning as authorities reveal new information about the attackers, who killed 20 people during a siege in Dhaka.

Hoping from an exit from Brexit: thousands protest against the U.K.'s decision to leave the E.U. and say they've been cheated by deceptive campaigning.

Plus: words of remembrance for Elie Wiesel. Tribute come in for the author and Holocaust survivor who pushed for a better world.

It's all ahead here on CNN NEWSROOM. We're live in Atlanta. Thank you for joining us. I'm Natalie Allen.

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ALLEN: Police say all of the gunmen who killed 20 hostages in a cafe in Dhaka were Bangladeshi and a new video is believed to show that terrible attack.

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ALLEN (voice-over): CNN cannot independently confirm the authenticity of the video here but it appears to be recorded from an apartment adjacent to the restaurant. It shows people crossing a yard, a man with a gun next to two men, who are sitting with their heads down and military commandos moving in finally to end the siege.

Nine of the victims were Italian, seven Japanese, two Bangladeshi, one Indian and one U.S. citizen. And we know that two of the dead were also students at Emory University here in Atlanta.

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ALLEN: For more on the siege and the outcome, we're joined by our Sumnima Udas. She is with us now live from New Delhi.

And, Sumnima, very incredible video there of the purported attack and the end of this all. But what do we know, anything more about the victims?

SUMNIMA UDAS, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, most of the victims were foreigners, Natalie, and from reports that are emerging from Bangladesh, it appears that these were targeted killings, according to a lot of local media reports.

The attackers actually asked the hostages to reverse -- to recite verses from the Quran and those who were not able to were the ones they ended up killing. And in some of those videos, we can see that the attackers let go some of the hostages; at least were walking them out of that restaurant, across the garden. Some of them were wearing hijabs; those were presumably the Bangladeshis, the Muslims who were able to recite the Quran.

And according to at least the cook from the -- of the restaurant, who was Bangladeshi and who survived, he said these people actually told them, the attackers, as they came in, told them, look, you're Bangladeshi; you don't have to worry. It's the foreigners that we're after. They're the ones who wear the skimpy clothes. They're the ones who drink alcohol and they're the ones who are ruining Bangladesh.

So these appear to be targeted killings -- Natalie.

ALLEN: And what does that say about Bangladesh and where it's come?

Because it was a secular country. There had been individual attacks on people that speak out against extremism. But this was a major attack and a massacre.

UDAS: That's right. All of the attackers were Bangladeshis. And according to those local media reports, again, they were young. They were well dressed. They seemed educated, people that no one would really have assumed in Bangladesh that they would do such a thing. So people are extremely shocked, again; in Dhaka, people have been used to hearing these stories about how these bloggers, intellectuals, people from minority groups have been killed in the past two years.

But this is absolutely unprecedented. And that's what the prime minister of the country has repeatedly said as well.

So in Bangladesh today begins the national day of mourning. Today is when people will be wearing black badges. They will be offering their prayers at various sites, temples, mosques, churches as well.

And so today's really a day -- I mean, it's been such a rough 36 hours or so since those gunmen stormed into that restaurant.

People are just really waking up today and taking stock of what's happened and coming to that realization that's what's been happening in their country is far more dangerous than what the government had made out --

[00:05:00] UDAS: -- to seem. The government had always sort of denied that extremist groups like ISIS were present in Bangladesh. They had always said that this was a very local problem and now people are realizing that this is a much, much bigger issue -- Natalie.

ALLEN: Sumnima Udas for us there in New Delhi, thank you, Sumnima.

ISIS has claimed responsibility for the attack, this despite past claims by officials in Bangladesh -- as Sumnima just mentioned -- that the terror group is not present there.

For his analysis of the attackers and their possible motives, we're joined by Steve Moore. He's a CNN law enforcement contributor and a retired FBI supervisory special agent.

Steve, thanks again for joining us. You and I were talking after the siege ended about 24 hours ago here about how the police moved in, caught the gunmen, rescued hostages and, unfortunately, we have since learned about the 20 deaths of people inside.

What more can you say about this brazen attack and the police stampede to put an end to it?

We just saw that video there. It certainly seemed like they moved in in full force.

STEVE MOORE, CNN LAW ENFORCEMENT CORRESPONDENT: They did move in in full force. And I'm grateful for that and I -- you know, kudos to them. But that should have been done 11 hours beforehand.

And we were talking about that early on in the siege, that anybody who believes that these people are here for anything other than a high body count are naive.

And if you give them 11 hours with hostages, what do you think they're going to do with them?

That is like giving a fox 11 hours in the henhouse and being surprised when the hens are gone. You have to move quickly against anybody who are ISIS-inspired, ISIS-claimed. You have to go get them immediately.

ALLEN: Yes, because you and I were trying to figure out, what were these gunmen doing with these hostages all the time?

They'd already killed so many of them.

Isn't this, Steve, what SWAT teams worldwide and police forces, government officials, are learning, that when there is a terror attack, a hostage situation, you can't take your time to set up and figure out what you're going to do?

You have to move more quickly.

How is that changing the whole ballgame for police in these countries? MOORE: Natalie, it's changing -- it should have already changed it. I mean, it should have changed it in the United States after Columbine when we saw that.

I'm reminded of -- before 9/11, airline pilots were told to cooperate with the hijackers and everything's probably going to turn out right. After 9/11, we learned if you cooperate with them, they're going to crash the plane into the building and kill everybody.

We've never seen this nihilistic aspect of these kinds of terrorist attacks, where there is no end game other than death. And so police forces around the world -- and, sadly, not all of them apparently -- have learned -- the Germans especially have learned this -- if you do not go in immediately, you are counting down the lives that are left to save.

And you remember last night, Natalie, we were saying we were seeing not a lot of ambulances going out and then we were surprised to find out that 13 had been rescued.

Well, here's the deal. None of the people -- you know, every single person who was killed apparently was non-Muslim. And they had been in there just murdering them silently so that it wouldn't trigger an attack.

ALLEN: Yes, it's just horrible, learning how these people were killed while they were in this otherwise idyllic location in that restaurant. We'll talk again, unfortunately. Steve Moore, thank you again for joining us to talk about how --

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ALLEN: -- thank you.

Turkey is honoring the lives of the 44 people killed in last week's terror attacks as authorities begin their investigation there. On Saturday, the Turkish president visited a makeshift shrine for the dead at Ataturk Airport.

Three suicide bombers attacked the airport Tuesday. Officials believe a well-known Russian jihadist and ISIS lieutenant coordinated the assault. They don't know where he is right now.

Two car bomb attacks in the Iraqi capital on Saturday killed at least 12 people and wounded dozens of others. The blast happened in separate, mostly Shiite neighborhoods in Central and Southeastern Baghdad. ISIS claimed responsibility for one of the attacks. The group said on social media it was targeting Shiites.

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ALLEN: Some 50,000 protesters marched through London Saturday, angered by the U.K.'s vote to leave the European Union. Organizers say Millennials made up most of the crowd. As CNN's John Vause reports, voters say they feel cheated by a campaign of lies.

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JOHN VAUSE, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): The call went out on social media just days ago and thousands answered, flooding into the --

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VAUSE (voice-over): -- heart of the capital.

VAUSE: This is the start of the pro-E.U. rally, the anti-Brexit rally here. This column of people stretches back for maybe a kilometer in that direction.

As you can hear, they're now chanting, "What do we want?"

"The E.U."

And they want it now. They plan on marching towards Parliament.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What do we want?

E.U.!

When do we want it?

Now!

What do we want?

E.U.!

When do we want it?

Now!

VAUSE (voice-over): There's anger here for the leader of the independence party, Nigel Farage, who many blame for a surge of racism and hate crimes after the vote.

VAUSE: Are you worried about racism on the rise in Britain after this vote?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Unfortunately, yes; I have experienced it as I am Bulgarian. I have already experienced several unfortunate incidents, one of which was telling me to pack my bags and leave, on social media, which wasn't great.

VAUSE: Right.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yes, I'm definitely worried.

VAUSE (voice-over): And anger for former London mayor, Boris Johnson; many believe he led a Leave campaign which was based on lies.

VAUSE: Simon (ph), you're holding a sign, "Democracy based on lies is not democracy." You feel that you were lied to obviously.

SIMON (PH), PROTESTER: Oh, I feel that the public was lied to very comprehensively and very directly, yes.

VAUSE: By the Leave campaign?

SIMON (PH): By the Leave campaign.

VAUSE: By the Remains or --

SIMON (PH): Predominantly by the Leave campaign. I can't say I spotted any obvious lies in the Remain campaign but there might have been some mistruths.

VAUSE (voice-over): And while there are demands for a second referendum -- a petition demanding one has more than 4 million signatures -- most now want Parliament to ignore the result, arguing it was nonbinding.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I don't think we are going to leave Europe.

VAUSE: Oh, good.

So how are you going to stop leaving Europe?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Well, basically the referendum is an advisory thing. It still has to be voted in government, OK, by parliamentarians. I don't believe -- I think events like this today is about showing the support of the people, of the actual majority -- you know, some people didn't vote -- ensuring we do still stay in Europe. It's not over.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Give me a cheer if you are from Europe!

VAUSE (voice-over): And they took that message directly to Parliament.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I stand with you. Decent British values are the values of the European Union. Thank you.

VAUSE: Keep in mind, London voted overwhelmingly to remain within the E.U. The rest of England voted to leave. And while the referendum was meant to settle the euro question once and for all, it seems to have only exposed deeper divisions -- John Vause, CNN, London.

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ALLEN: Hillary Clinton spent her Saturday talking with the FBI. Up next here, why the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee says she was eager to answer their questions.

Also: a two-hour drama at the Euro 2016 quarterfinals.

Who's headed to the semis?

How they got there: that's coming up here on CNN NEWSROOM.

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ALLEN: Welcome back.

Hillary Clinton met with the FBI for several hours Saturday to talk about the investigation that's casting a shadow over her campaign. Sources say the whole thing could be wrapped up soon. Here's Chris Frates with more.

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CHRIS FRATES, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Hillary Clinton came to FBI headquarters behind me on Saturday to sit for a 3.5 hour interview with federal officials, who are investigating the use of her private e-mail server.

The Clinton campaign putting out a statement that read, quote, "Secretary Clinton gave a voluntary interview this morning about her e-mail arrangements while she was secretary.

"She's pleased to have had the opportunity to assist the Department of Justice in bringing this review to a conclusion out of respect for the investigative process. She will not comment further on her interview."

That was from spokesman Nick Merrill. But what we do know is that this is a routine part of the investigation. Hillary Clinton's aides have been brought in and have talked to the FBI and this is part of what happens at the end of an investigation, when the FBI brings in the subject for an interview.

In fact, sources telling CNN that, right now, there's not enough evidence to charge Hillary Clinton with any crimes. And barring any big game-changers in this interview today, they don't expect that there will be any charges brought against Hillary Clinton. And they may announce that in the next few weeks.

That would be welcome news for the Clinton campaign and Democrats, who want to put this issue off the table before the Democratic convention in three weeks.

Now Republicans, though, continue to hit Hillary Clinton on this issue. In fact, Donald Trump tweeted this on Saturday.

He said, quote, "It is impossible for the FBI not to recommend criminal charges against Hillary Clinton. What she did was wrong. What Bill did was stupid," Donald Trump there talking about Bill Clinton, earlier this week meeting with Loretta Lynch on the tarmac of Phoenix International Airport. He popped over when their planes were sharing a tarmac to have a

social call with Loretta Lynch. Came under huge criticism for that because, of course, as the attorney general, Loretta Lynch is overseeing this investigation. But certainly Republicans are going to continue to hit Hillary Clinton on this, no matter what the outcome of this FBI investigation is -- Chris Frates, CNN, Washington.

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ALLEN: Donald Trump later wrote on Twitter, "It was just announced by sources that no charges will be brought against Crooked Hillary Clinton. Like I said, the system is totally rigged," according to Trump. He's said the same thing for quite a while now.

DEREK VAN DAM, AMS METEOROLOGIST: The world according to Trump.

ALLEN: Yes, it is.

All right, Derek Van Dam here with us because extremely heavy rain has led to flooding, landslides across Central China.

Extremely heavy rain led to flooding, landslides across central China.

VAN DAM: We are talking about this part of the world that's been absolutely pummeled by heavy rainfall. It's an annual event but it just continues to really fuel the effects of this flash flooding. Take a look at this incredible footage, Natalie.

We've got cars sweeping down roadways across Southwestern China. This is all thanks to some of the elevation within this area. You see how the muddy waters have really mixed in and just sent this torrent of water down the riverside and down the mountainside, leading to scenes just like that.

Take a look at what this can also entail. This is a landslide. Granted, this took place about 10 days ago but this gives you an idea of the nature of the things they have to deal with over this part of the world.

By the way, that tractor-trailer that you're seeing falling down the hill was blocking a roadway that was impacted by the landslide.

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VAN DAM: Let's stay over the Western Pacific because this particular area, in terms of tropical cyclone activity, has been eerily quiet. In fact, we've broke some records this year for the longest stretch of time or at least days, without a tropical storm. This is very strange.

You can see back in 1997 and '98 we had 198 days without a named storm. We've just broken that. Remember, coming off of 2015, which was extremely active, we had over 26 --

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VAN DAM: -- category 4 or category 5 hurricanes over this part of the world. And you can see how quiet it has been so far this year.

So quite a stark difference but the interesting part about this is that things are starting to heat up across the Pacific. Look at that storm now across just south of Guam. We're going to monitor that for tropical development.

ALLEN: So it's coming.

VAN DAM: It is coming and it will only be a few weeks away before it really starts to ramp up.

ALLEN: All right, Derek, thank you.

Turning to sports now: Germany is headed to the Euro 2016 semifinals after an epic win on Saturday. For the first time, Germany beat Italy in a major quarterfinals matchup.

The teams ended regular time 1-1 but, in true fashion, Germany pulled it off a 6-5 win on penalties. That victory led to this massive celebration in Berlin, fans going wild. Germany's next match is July 7th.

And it will be France or Iceland meeting Germany on Thursday. Sunday's match will determine which team will take the field. This is Iceland's first time in reaching a quarterfinal. The team's manager warns France that Iceland has not even played their best game yet. Look out.

In tennis, Novak Djokovic has crashed out of Wimbledon in dramatic fashion. He went down in the third round against U.S. star Sam Querrey. The world number one and defending champ was beaten 6-7, 1- 6, 6-3, 6-7. It is the first time Djokovic has suffered a grand slam defeat since the final of the 2015 French Open.

Tributes are pouring in for a man who fought for so many victims of war. Coming up, we remember Holocaust survivor Elie Wiesel.

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ALLEN: Holocaust survivor, human rights activist and author Elie Wiesel has died at the age of 87. Wiesel wrote about his imprisonment as a teenager in the Nazi concentration camp at Auschwitz during World War II. He received the Nobel Peace Prize in 1986.

Tributes to Wiesel have been pouring in from around the world.

U.S. President Barack Obama released a statement saying, "Elie Wiesel was one of the great moral voices of our times and, in many ways, the conscience of the world.

"Tonight Michelle and I join people across the United States, Israel and the globe in mourning the loss and celebrating the life of a truly remarkable human being."

And that he was. CNN's Richard Roth looks back on Elie Wiesel's extraordinary life and the legacy he leaves behind.

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RICHARD ROTH, CNN SENIOR U.N. CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): He would become the most famous survivor of the Holocaust. But at the age of 15, Elie Wiesel had no fears when his family was rounded up in Hungary by the Nazis.

ELIE WIESEL, NOBEL PRIZE WINNER AND HOLOCAUST SURVIVOR: At the very last minute I wasn't worried. We have no idea that Auschwitz existed.

ROTH (voice-over): That changed when he was transported by cattle car with hundreds of others.

WIESEL: I knew something terrible, it was something terrifying that was in store for us.

ROTH (voice-over): Arrival at Auschwitz, the extermination camp; an older inmate advises them, "Tell the Germans you're 18 years old, a candidate for work."

It saved his life or what would pass as life in the death camps.

Trapped in a nightmare, Wiesel sustained himself by --

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ROTH (voice-over): -- keeping his father alive. Father and son were later taken to Buchenwald camp. Wiesel's father, Shlomo, died just weeks before the U.S. Army arrived.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: All along the Allied advance, the gates swing open from German concentration camps.

ROTH (voice-over): This picture was taken after liberation. Wiesel is in the second level of the bunk next to the beam. He would later say he didn't recognize himself.

Wiesel lamented there was no grave of his father to visit when he toured Buchenwald in 2009 with German Chancellor Merkel and President Obama.

WIESEL: What can I tell him?

That the world has learned?

I am not so sure.

ROTH (voice-over): Wiesel started asking questions after the war, becoming a journalist. It took years before he talked about the horrors he experienced, in his book called "Night" an eventual bestseller.

In 1985 as he received the Congressional gold medal, he implored President Reagan -- unsuccessfully -- not to visit a German cemetery filled with members of the SS. He won the Nobel Peace Prize in 1986. The humanitarian would later speak out against other atrocities.

On Saddam Hussein...

WIESEL: It's not a method of war. It's a method of intervention.

ROTH (voice-over): -- Darfur, Sudan...

WIESEL: It's a scandal that we didn't stop the bloodshed.

ROTH (voice-over): -- and on Iranian President Ahmadinejad.

WIESEL: I will tell you, frankly, this man is a disgrace.

ROTH (voice-over): He was named a messenger of peace by the United Nations, the organization founded as a result of World War II. He would ask the U.N. Security Council...

WIESEL: Why am I involved in tragic events that occurred to people I have never met on the other side of oceans and continents?

It is because I belong to a traumatized generation, haunted by the world's indifference.

ROTH (voice-over): The Elie Wiesel Foundation was set up to fight indifference and intolerance. In 2008, Wiesel and his foundation learned they were among the victims of financial schemer Bernard Madoff.

Wiesel always said he was a writer and a teacher. He said he never spoke for all the Holocaust victims but serves to remind nations to not let it happen again.

WIESEL: As a teacher, I always believe in questions.

The question is, will the world ever learn?

Thank you.

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ALLEN: Elie Wiesel, dead at age 87.

That is CNN NEWSROOM. I'm Natalie Allen. I'll be back with our top stories in a moment.