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Hillary Clinton To Speak Along With President Obama; FBI Director To Hold Uncommon Press Conference; El Chapo One Step Closer To Extradition; New Details On Bangladesh Cafe Attack; Megamillions Jackpot Nears Record High. Aired 10:30-11:00a

Aired July 05, 2016 - 10:30   ET

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CAROL COSTELLO, CNN ANCHOR: But it may not be enough. Some voters simply do not trust her. The latest FOX News poll shows more than half of registered voters do not believe Mrs. Clinton is honest and trustworthy. So how to overcome those numbers. Let's bring in Drew Weston. He's the author of "The Political Brain." He's a professor at Emory University. You're also a Political Psychologist.

So voters have been aware of Hillary Clinton for 30 years. I think that probably most of them have already made up their mind about her. So how can she change perception at this point?

DREW WESTON, POLITICAL PSYCHOLOGIST: That's part of the problem is that she's had this perception for a very long time. If I were advising Hillary, which I'm not, but if I were, I would give her some, what sounds like very simple kind of stupid advice. Which is whenever you're asked any question at all, even a question about trust, just tell the truth right from the start, straight from your heart.

I mean so, here's an example. If she's asked, "what do you think about this trust issue? Why don't Americans trust you?" I'd tell the truth. I'd say, "you know, as the First Lady in the 1990s, no First Lady had ever been treated like that before. Frankly, it hurt. And I've put up defenses and I've put up callouses. And it makes me -- you know, when I get one of these attacks like this bogus scandal about which e-mail did I use, you pull (ph) my first ...

COSTELLO: Do you really think that's going to work?

WESTON: Well I think if voters were to see her answering directly to questions -- like you know, the e-mail thing is a good example, OK? Give you an example of that. With -- if I'd been Hillary Clinton and I were answering that e-mail issue for the first time. I would have said, "look," -- can you see this credit card on television?

COSTELLO: Yes.

WESTON: I would have said, "look this is my business card. This is my personal card. You know, it's kind of hard to tell the difference. And I don't think that there's a small business owner in the United States who doesn't get it that you have to keep one e-mail for your personal stuff. You have to keep another for your business stuff. And occasionally you're going to screw up. But you're not going to screw up on the big things. And I screwed up, but I would never have screwed up on something big."

COSTELLO: OK well we'll see what she says today in North Carolina alongside President Obama. Drew Weston, thanks for joining us this morning. Still to come in the Newsroom, as El Chapo's lawyers try to keep him in Mexico, a judge's ruling is making it easier to extradite him.

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COSTELLO: At the top of the hour, in just about 20 minutes, the FBI Director James Comey is due to hold a news conference. No official word of what exactly he'll be talking about. CNN's Evan Perez, he's our Justice Correspondent, he's live at FBI Headquarters. Any hints, Evan?

EVAN PEREZ, CNN JUSTICE CORRESPONDENT: Carol, so far no hints from the FBI as to what this press conference is about. It's not very common for the FBI Director to do these. We know obviously that there are several big-ticket investigations that are on his plate right now. Starting with the Hillary Clinton investigation -- the investigation into her private e-mail server.

She was interviewed over the weekend on Saturday for three-and-a-half hours right here, at the FBI building, the FBI Headquarters building. This is where the investigation is being managed from, Carol. Which is also pretty unusual.

But we expect that that investigation is still ongoing. There's still a couple of other matters including some terrorism cases that are under investigation. And the wife of Omar Mateen, the Orlando shooter. We'll hear more from the FBI Director in about 30 minutes.

COSTELLO: All right, Evan Perez reporting live from Washington. We'll check back at the top of the hour, thanks so much. A judge's ruling will make it harder for drug kingpin El Chapo to stay imprisoned in Mexico. Which means he could be getting closer to extradition. He's sitting in a prison just a few miles from the U.S. border. A lawyer familiar with the process says if El Chapo is extradited to the U.S., we may not know about it until he's already here.

CNN's Nick Valencia live in Atlanta with more. Good morning, Nick.

NICK VALENCIA, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Good morning, Carol. One of the two injunctions to try to delay the extradition process filed by El Chapo's defense attorneys last week has been dismissed by a federal judge. What this essentially does is, it removes a speed bump in the extradition process.

El Chapo's attorneys tried to argue that the statute of limitations against the drug cartel kingpin had expired. Federal judge didn't see it that way. Since his recapture in January of 2016, there has been a seemingly

endless back and forth between El Chapo's attorneys and Mexican prosecutors. And right now, those defense attorneys for El Chapo have two legal options.

One is to exploit double jeopardy, or argue that the crimes he's being charged for in the U.S. are the same in Mexico and therefore he should serve out his prison sentence in Mexico. The other is what we're seeing right now, is this amparo injunction case -- or try to go to a federal judge to get them to constitutionally review the process of extradition.

The cartel kingpin has gone through great lengths to try to evade justice. You're about to see just how far those lengths are in a clip we're going to show you, from this documentary set to air at 9:00 p.m. Eastern, tonight.

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VALENCIA (voice-over): Around midnight on February 17, 2014, El Chapo Guzman wants a snack and sends a guard out to get it. Mexican Marines get lucky.

DEREK MALTZ, FORMER SPECIAL AGENT IN CHARGE, DEA SPECIAL OPERATIONS: He was grabbed, he was arrested, and he cooperated.

VALENCIA (voice-over): This is the house where the guard says El Chapo is hiding. But when they got to the front door they got unlucky.

CHRIS CUOMO, CNN ANCHOR: Not only is this a steel door, but it's several inches thick of reinforced steel. So they had to try to bash it in. And they were using a battering ram. Now ordinarily what happens is as you batter the door, the metal heats up, it softens, and you can gain entry. Not this door. Each one of these compartments is filled with water. This door did not heat up. And it took them almost 10 minutes to get inside.

VALENCIA (voice-over): That's all the time the king of tunnels needs.

CUOMO: Looks like a bathtub, right? Check this out. A signature El Chapo tunnel.

VALENCIA (voice-over): And down he goes.

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VALENCIA: The cartel kingpin wields incredible power and influence which is how he was able to remain on the run for so long. Now despite all these efforts to stall or delay the extradition process, experts with the criminal defense system in Mexico tell us it's just a matter of time before we see the cartel kingpin in the United States. Carol? COSTELLO: Fascinating and scary at the same time. Nick Valencia

reporting live from Atlanta, thank you. And be sure to tune in for a CNN special report tonight, "Got Shorty; Inside the chase for El Chapo." As Nick said, it airs at 9:00 p.m. Eastern, only on CNN.

Still to come in the Newsroom, calm, cool, and proficient with their weapons. Up next, chilling new details about those terrorists in Bangladesh.

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COSTELLO: Chilling new details about that horrific cafe attack in Bangladesh. Police now say they mistakenly identified one of the victims as one of the terrorists. And only five gunmen, not six, carried out the attack. That brings the death toll to 23.

In the meantime, during an interview with the co-owner of the bakery, he says employees described the terrorists as calm, and proficient with their weapons. Let's get right to CNN's Alexandra Field. She's live in Dhaka where that attack took place. Hi Alexandra.

ALEXANDRA FIELD, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Hey there Carol. We are learning new details about what happened inside that bakery on Friday night. Police say that many of the victims were killed within minutes of the attack. Five attackers storming that restaurant between the ages of 18 and their mid-20s. From upper-middle class backgrounds, all educated.

I sat down with the father of the youngest attacker. He says he can't quite bring himself to believe that it was his son who carried out this act. But he had these words for the families of the 23 victims.

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MEER HAYET KABIR, FATHER OF DHAKA ATTACKER: I don't know what to say. I have definitely eyes (ph) to understand this. I am very comp (ph) my son. But I want to say that I don't believe that my son has done it with his own conscience. I don't know, it will not, it will not give anything to -- any message to these families. But I want to say that -- I just want to say that will they be listened to or not, this is not my son's conscience. This is -- this cannot be -- he's only 18.

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FIELD: The Holey Artisan Bakery was a popular spot among both expass (ph) and locals. There were communal tables that everyone in the restaurant would share. I spoke to the owner of the bakery. He says he was there Friday evening just before the attack started. He left but he was on his phone with some of his staff members as that horrendous attack unfolded.

He says some of them were hiding on a rooftop, others in a bathroom, and some in the kitchen where the gunmen soon discovered them. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

ALI ARSALAN, CO-OWNER, HOLEY ARTISAN BAKERY: There were some who were hiding in the bakery side there. And who were then brought out. From what we know, the gunmen came in here, they shot quite a few people. Then they went to -- then they went inside on this side, to where the bakery and cafe kitchen is. They found a couple of people hiding there, including a Japanese national who was apparently shot then.

And they brought our staff out over here. By which time our staff saw there were basically all dead bodies laying on the ground.

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FIELD: The scene of so much bloodshed still blocked off, still under heavy guard as investigators continue to do their work there. The owner of the bakery says he hasn't been back and he isn't sure he can bring himself to reopen another restaurant. Carol?

COSTELLO: Alexandra Field reporting live from Bangladesh. Hundreds of people dead in terror attacks in Bangladesh. And actually across the Middle East, unfortunately this is not something new. If you take a look at just Iraq, the United Nations estimates at least 24,000 civilians were killed or injured in Iraq in just the first 8 months of 2014. Muslims killing Muslims supposedly in the name of Islam.

The Bangladeshi Prime Minister is furious. She said, "what kind of Muslims are these, who kill others during Ramadan?" She went on to say, "Anyone who believes in religion cannot do such an act. They do not have any religion. Their only religion is terrorism."

Still many Americans wonder why the leaders of Muslim countries don't do more to fight terrorists who are perverting their religion. With me now is Dean Obeidallah, he's a contributor for The Daily Beast. He also has his own show on Sirius Radio. Welcome, Dean.

DEAN OBEIDALLAH, CONTRIBUTOR, THE DAILY BEAST: Thank you, Carol.

COSTELLO: You sort of devoted your life to talk about all things Muslim. You could be doing something else, right? You were very successful in other careers, why do you do that?

OBEIDALLAH: I haven't devoted my entire life to talking about Muslim stuff. It just comes up. I view myself really as an activist against injustice, whatever it might be. If it's against anti semitism, against homophobia. Islamophobia, sadly, is on the rise. And a backlash is caused a great deal by the actions of ISIS. And my point in my writing a lot, is to make it clear. The number one victim of ISIS are Muslims.

ISIS is waging a war against Islam. They're also waging a war against Christianity, Judaism, Atheism, Sikhism, and anyone who does not submit to ISIS. So as a leader, the Prime Minister of Bangladesh said -- Prime Minister of Turkey, stated the Iranian leaders, ISIS's religion is terrorism. It's barbarity, it's depravity. They're the opposite of humanity. These are Muslims. COSTELLO: So why don't Middle Eastern countries get together and

fight that common enemy? Why don't they like, put boots on the ground within their own region and get rid of this terror? Get rid of these people who are perverting their religion?

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OBEIDALLAH: I think on the battlefield there should be more. In Iraq, don't forget, the Iraqi forces are fighting now. They're having some success there. In Syria there are people fighting there. Could there be more? Yes. the -- part of the problem is -- and I've spoken to many Muslim friends in the Middle East who say, various reasons. One is until ISIS attacks our country, they don't think their fellow countrymen will be animated to send troops on the ground there.

Second, some in the Muslim world, I'm going to be honest, view ISIS as a Western creation.

COSTELLO: Really?

OBEIDALLAH: And -- not in some kind of conspiritual way but more geopolitical. They said America and the West wanted ISIS to be a counterbalance to the Iranian Shia influence in Iran and in Iraq. So you have these arguments with them. And I'll tell them, that doesn't make any sense, whatsoever to me. But they believe it.

COSTELLO: So some of your friends in the Middle East think that ISIS is an American creation?

OBEIDALLAH: At least a Western creation at first, that got out of hand. They're not saying now, what they're doing is what they intended. They're saying it was created to be in Iraq only, to be a counterbalance to Shia influence in that region to sort of contain it. The way Saddam Hussein contained the Shia influence in the region. It's gotten out of hand now.

But still they go, "it's your problem. You created it, you should get rid of it." Still let's make it clear, there are Arab and Muslim countries in the coalition bombing them. Jordan bombed Saudi Arabia, Turkey's involved. There could be more -- there's no doubt, boots have to be on the ground to fight them.

I mean we're seeing the success in Iraq. The hardest thing is fighting the ideology. It's not by bombing, that's going to be online working together with the Muslim community to fare it out and counter the extremism.

COSTELLO: Let's talk about Saudi Arabia.

OBEIDALLAH: Sure.

COSTELLO: So a suicide bomber blew himself right near where the prophet Mohammad was ...

OBEIDALLAH: Medina.

COSTELLO: Right, right near where he was born.

OBEIDALLAH: Right.

COSTELLO: Won't that send a message to the Saudi government that perhaps they do need to put boots on the ground? And get rid of this threat.

OBEIDALLAH: You would hope so. It's actually where he's buried, not where he was born.

COSTELLO: Sorry.

OBEIDALLAH: No, it's OK. But in any event, yes. You would say, "but it should be before this." Let's be honest. 200 Muslims were just killed in Iraq over this weekend. Children, families walking to celebrate at the end of Ramadan -- you know the sunset. It just -- in March 200 Muslims were killed, and civilians, Sunni and Shia. People keep saying, "they're just killing Shia." No, ISIS kills Sunni clerics. These are clerics. They behead them for not submitting to ISIS.

So if there's anything we have to take away, it's that the number one victim of ISIS are Muslims. There's a war by ISIS against all of our faiths, and the people without faith. And that I would like to see the Muslim countries get more involved.

COSTELLO: But is this the tipping point, then? Because there were attacks in Bangladesh, there were attacks in Indonesia, there were attacks in Iraq, right?

OBEIDALLAH: Right.

COSTELLO: 215 people died there. So is this the tipping point?

OBEIDALLAH: You would hope it would be. You -- in my heart I want it to be. I wanted it to be a year ago as Muslims were getting slaughtered on a daily basis. That they step up before they could have done what they did in Paris, and in Brussels. We need a concerted effort by Muslim countries, and uniting Muslims here in this country to be on the lookout for anyone trying to radicalize our young Muslims.

Especially it's online. It's not happening at mosques. You're probably shouldn't (ph) say this stuff, not true. It's happening online, that's true and we have to work together to combat that.

COSTELLO: Dean Obeidallah, thanks so much.

OBEIDALLAH: Thanks, Carol.

COSTELLO: I'll be right back.

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COSTELLO: All right in just about 3 minutes, we expect the FBI Director, James Comey to make some sort of statement about something. I wish I could be more specific, but I don't know. But he could talk about any number of large things. Like what happened in Orlando at the Pulse Nightclub.

He could also talk about Hillary Clinton's e-mail controversy. Because as you know, the FBI questioned her for three-and-a-half hours last weekend. And he could also talk about ISIS of course. Because with all of the terror attacks that have been going on across the Middle East over the weekend. And tell us what's the latest with that.

We're going to keep you posted and take this live at the top of the hour. All right let's talk about something good, or maybe lucky. The Megamillions jackpot now making history. CNN's Cristina Alesci joins me now. How high is the jackpot, I don't even know.

CRISTINA ALESCI, CNNMONEY CORRESPONDENT: It's $449 million. A big number but back in January we had an even bigger number, $1.6 billion. So this invariably will get people to go out and buy a ticket. But your chances are very slim. We talk about this all the time, right, Carol?

COSTELLO: I know.

ALESCI: One in 259 million, that is your chance of winning. You have a better chance of dying after being struck by lightning or being stung by a bee. And my personal favorite, you have a better chance of being struck by lightning while drowning, than winning the lotto tonight. So just putting it into perspective.

COSTELLO: That's such a cheery analogy.

ALESCI: Yes, but it's not going to stop people from buying tickets. Americans love lotto. They spent $70 billion buying lotto tickets. Mostly scratch-offs, but some for these big prizes, right? That is more than most entertainment combined. More than sports tickets, movie theater tickets. So this is a very popular event.

Now if you do win and you beat the odds somehow, there are two ways to take the payout. You can either do it in a lump sum which is actually less money. Or you can get it over a 29-year period. Most people opt for the lump sum because they think they can do a better job investing the money than the state can. Which is probably true after speaking to some of my colleagues that are watching this very closely.

COSTELLO: I bet they are, they have their tickets.

ALESCI: Exactly.

COSTELLO: I bet you do, too.

ALESCI: I don't yet. Got to run out and get one right now.

COSTELLO: Go Cristina, go! Thank you, Cristina.

ALESCI: You're welcome.

COSTELLO: Thank you so much for joining me today. I'm Carol Costello. "AT THIS HOUR" with Berman and Bolduan starts now.