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[11:00:14] BECKY ANDERSON, HOST: Well, once the UK's leading Brexit campaigner, and now its top diplomat. Theresa May's new government is
taking shape with a surprise appointment.
This hour, the latest in Britain's ongoing political drama.
Also ahead for you this hour...
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DR. SAMER ATTAR, ORTHOPEDIC SURGEON: When you have that many people who are injured you have to make decision on who you are going to save and
who -- who you have to leave behind.
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ANDERSON: CNN gets an exclusive first-hand account on the dire situation in Syria's Aleppo from a doctor who just returned from the city.
And as France celebrates Bastille Day in style, we'll what it all means for the fifth republic.
Welcome, hello, I'm Becky Anderson. Welcome to what is a special edition of Connect the World live from Paris for you.
Over the Channel, it's been a day of appointments and disappointments as Theresa May takes the helm in Westminster. In the last few hours,
Brexit campaign leader Michael Gove has been sacked as UK justice secretary along with several others. Theresa May's cabinet reshuffle is one of the
most sweeping in years and one that has seen Britain get its BoJo (ph) back.
In what some see as a shock move, Boris Johnson has been appointed foreign secretary. He spoke moment ago saying a Brexit doesn't necessarily
mean abandoning Europe.
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BORIS JOHNSON, BRITISH FOREIGN SECRETARY: On Europe, clearly, we have to give effect to the will of the people in the referendum, but that does
not mean in any sense leaving Europe. There is a massive difference between leaving the EU and our relations with Europe, which if anything I
think are going to be intensified and built up as an intergovernmental level.
And I was very pleased to receive a phone call from Secretary Kerry of the United States, who totally agreed with that analysis. And his view was
that post Brexit, and after the negotiations, what he really wants to see - - and I think this is the right thing for the UK -- is more Britain abroad, a greater global profile. And I think we now have the opportunity to
So overall it's been a very exciting day.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: So Foreign Secretary Johnson, diplomacy is about personal relationships. I mean, you said in the past you compared the
likely presidential candidate to a sadistic nurse in a mental hospital. We know what was said about President Obama and his ancestral heritage. And
today, the French foreign secretary has said you've told a lot of lies in the campaign. The German secretary has said some of the stuff you have
done is outrageous and irresponsible.
JOHNSON: Well, after a vote like the referendum result on June 23, it is inevitable that there is going to be a certain amount of plaster coming
off the ceiling in the chancelleries of Europe. It wasn't the result that they were expecting. And clearly they are making their views known in a
frank and free way.
I have to say that the gentleman that you mentioned, the French foreign minister, in fact has sent me a charming letter just a couple of
hours ago saying how much he looked forward to working together and to deepening Anglo-French cooperation on all sorts of areas and that is what
we want to achieve.
And here in the foreign office we have such incredible skill, such talent. And I'm absolutely certain that we have the people here who are
going to be able to forge that global identity for Britain.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Sir, will you clarify what the role of this organization will be once some section of its functions is carved off. Mr.
David Davis's department. And are you lobbying to leave the single market?
JOHNSON: It's very important that people should realize when you leave Heathrow, when
you leave Dover, a British citizen is basically the responsibility of the foreign office. Our diplomacy is run for the foreign office.
But we will be working very closely, as you can imagine, with the new departments for international trade and for the withdrawal from the EU.
And they will be borrowing some of our after staffers as is only proper.
But there is a huge opportunity. And I think that the mood here today -- I have been very struck
by how excited and how positive people here are about the opportunities for Britain.
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[11:05:11] ANDERSON: Well, let's get more on the shape of Theresa May's new cabinet and on Boris Johnson with our contributor Robin Oakley
who is outside 10 Downing Street, and Nic Robertson joining us outside Boris Johnson's new office, the foreign office.
And to you, Nic, first. Boris Jonhson, as controversial an appointment as many have been suggesting do you think?
NIC ROBERTSON, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: It certainly is. I mean, you can certainly explain it from the point of view of Theresa May
that she needs to balance and leavers and the remainers within her new cabinet. She needs to show the people of Britain that she is committed to
Brexit. She said Brexit means Brexit. By appointing Boris Johnson, David Davis and Liam Fox in the key positions that she has put them in, they are
dealing with all the sort of overseas issues and the issues of a Brexit, then what she has done essentially is say this is what you campaigned for.
This is what you wanted, so please take it, run with it, go ahead, do it. That's what Boris Johnson was articulating how he sees his part of working
with that trio of people, if you will.
But obviously, for the rest, you know, she balances it against the other positions that she has appointed within her cabinet. For Boris
Johnson, certainly a lot of people were really writing him off as essentially politically dead. And she has picked him up and breathed new
life into him. I have spoken to him several times today. He seems absolutely full of vitality, really ready for the job, a sense of almost
giddiness to be given something so important.
He briefed the staff here, 700 staff, he said. He told him his view of the way forward, took questions for 20 minutes. We're told it was a
very, very good conversation with the staff.
It certainly isn't what people here were expecting. And everyone I've talked to so far certainly looked at it and says yes, it will be different,
but this is the way forward and we're going to get on with it -- Becky.
ANDERSON: I know that around the world I'm sure people have been surprised, not least those diplomats who will be working closely with him.
Was he surprised by his appointment?
ROBERTSON: It's hard to say with Boris Johnson always, because he's sort of a little bit
unpredictable. You know, I think if the we just look at the brief encounters that I have had with him today, that other journalists have had
with him today, where people have been trying to get him to comment, the only comments he made were those ones you just heard there.
So they have been in a very sort of controlled and very limited, very limited environment.
He certainly feels the weight, I can say, of the responsibility of his position to get his words
right, to get his tone right. And on those questions he was asked there about his comments about calling Hillary Clinton back in 2007 a sadistic
nurse in a mental hospital, and inferring some rather what were troubling at the time impressions about Barack Obama's history and parentage, these
were things that he chose not to address. It would have been very, very difficult I think for him to get into that.
But my impression is that he understands he cannot be saying that sort of thing again. And he's being cautious about the way that he engages with
the media so far.
This is Boris Johnson, let's not forget.
ANDERSON: Nic Robertson, outside the foreign office for you.
To Downing Street and Robin Oakley. Robin, we have been talking about the fact that around the world there has been some response at least to
Boris Johnson's appointment as foreign secretary. What can those diplomats -- the John Kerrys, the foreign ministers of the European countries, what
can they expect of Boris Johnson?
ROBIN OAKLEY, CNN POLITICAL CONTRIBUTOR: I don't think anybody expects anything of Boris Johnson and gets it, really, Becky. And I've
been listening to all the comments about the sled loads of baggage that he takes with him, I'm reminded of the former Secretary of State John Foster
Dulles of whom it was once said there wasn't a world situation so bad that a few well chosen words from John Foster Dulles couldn't make it hundred
And Boris has this kind of bull in a china shop element about him. Indeed, some say he carries his own china shop around with him. So, you
never know what comes next with Boris Johnson. And the question is whether he can really turn himself now into a statesman and not the joker that he
likes to be half of the time, Becky.
[11:10:05] ANDERSON: Fascinating stuff. And we certainly saw a more sober Boris Johnson, and I mean that in the way that he was conducting
himself today as he took questions from journalists and made that statement.
All right, to both of you, gentlemen, thank you.
We're going to get you to Aleppo, viewers, now where people are digging through buildings
flattened by air strikes desperately looking for anyone who might still be alive. A Syrian opposition group says attacks in two rebel-held
neighborhoods on Thursday killed at least 12 civilians, including kids.
The situation for civilians in Aleppo is growing increasingly desperate as the fighting escalates. The Syrian army released this video
showing troops closing in on rebel territory. The UN has warned that hundreds of thousands of lives are at risk as soldiers tighten their siege.
In a war this brutal that has stretched on for so long reporting casualty figures and showing damaged buildings can't even begin to convey
the pure hell of daily life for civilians there.
We want to hear now from a witness to the siege and see the horrors of war through his eyes. An American doctor spent two weeks documenting the
situation in Aleppo. He shared his heartbreaking stories and disturbing pictures with CNN's Nima Elbagir. She's joining me now from Khateh (ph) in
Turkey with the Turkey -- Nima.
NIMA ELBAGIR, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Becky, as you rightly said, it is almost unimaginable that the situation in Syria is as it is and
that it could possibly ever get worse. And yet it is. Dr. Samer Attar, an American orthopedic surgeon spent two weeks at a hospital in Aleppo during
the escalation of the aerial bombardment campaign that heralded the tightening of the Syrian government's grip on Aleppo.
And he shared with us just a glimpse of what the reality is like for doctors trying to pick up the pieces there and save lives. Take a listen
to this, Becky.
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DR. SAMER ATTAR, ORTHOPEDIC SURGEON: We had to stop doing CPR on a child that was severely injured in order to save someone else who was
bleeding to death who we knew could be save.
ELBAGIR: And the child couldn't?
ATTAR: The child could have if we had the personnel and the resources, but when you have that many people who are injured, you have to
make decisions on who you are going to save and you you have to leave behind. And those are not easy decisions even for the most seasoned
doctors, those are decisions that gnaw at you forever.
But in Syria, those are the decisions that these doctors make every single day.
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ELBAGIR; Dr. Attar told us, Becky, that in the days and nights he spent in that hospital he lost count of how many dead and dying patients
went through their doors. He said he thinks possibly hundreds, possibly more. But that situation is going to get worse because the one road, the
one supply route into Aleppo has now been cut off by the Syrian government, the Kastela Road (ph).
So those conditions are now being amplified by the bite of hunger and the reality that the fuel that runs that hospital's generator is already
running low. And those doctors could soon be faced with having to perform those life saving procedures in the dark -- Becky.
ANDERSON: The catastrophic human impact of this conflict. Nima, thank you.
Well, Syrian president Bashar al-Assad is strongly denying that his forces killed American war correspondent Marie Colvin. He gave a rare
interview to a U.S. television network telling NBC News that Colvin was in Syria illegally and therefore responsible for her own death.
Colvin had worked in war zones for years. She was a french journalist were killed in the an attack in a neighborhood in Homs in 2012.
Her family is suing the Syrian president and his government claiming they hunted Colvin down
and targeted her.
U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry has been here in Paris celebrating Bastille Day. He is now en route to Moscow to meet with Russian president,
Vladimir Putin. And the Syrian civil war likely to dominate the discussions. Efforts to negotiate a peace deal have collapsed. And
Washington seeking Moscow's cooperation to revive the process.
Clare Sebastian joins me now live from Washington with more. Details on the secretary's visit and what's at stake for Syria? And is that clear
at this point -- Clare.
CLARE SEBASTIAN, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Becky, so much at stake in this meeting today as that reporting from Nima just showed. John
Kerry is expected to arrive here in Moscow in the next half an hour. He is heading straight into talks with Russian President
Vladimir Putin and his Russian counterpart Sergei Lavrov.
As you said, those talks expected to focus heavily on the conflict in Syria and a possible new coordination between Russia and the U.S. on
resolving that conflict.
Now, as for what form that will take a document leaked by the Washington Post suggests that
could go as far as what they are calling a joint implementation group headquartered in Jordan. That would coordinate not only information
sharing, but possiblyeven operational toured nation on the ground in the future.
Now, the key to this is that the stated aim of this Potential pact would be to fight al-Nusra front in Syria now. As that is one of the
forces fighting the regime of Bashar al-Assad, which of course Russia is trying to prop up.
So, this a very big turnaround from the U.S. playing right into the policy of Russia.
Neither side, Becky, is commenting on this ahead of the talks today. Russia's Kremlin spokesman Dimitry Peskov Telling CNN that he won't comment
on something in a newspaper. He is going to wait to hear it from John Kerry himself. But extremely important, Becky, not only for this rather
strange bilateral relationship between the U.S. and Russia, but also of course for the urgent need
to resolve the violence in Syria.
ANDERSON: Yeah, and let's talk about the relations that the U.S. has with Moscow, or not, as it were as the case may be, because as the U.S.
seeks some coordination, it seems, on the ground with the Russians in order to do something about this bloody conflict in Syria, a deterioration in
U.S. -- or Washington/Moscow relations. How does this context to these talks sort of
fit in here?
SEBASTIAN: Right -- it's essentially a very mixed set of messages we're getting here, Becky. The rhetoric has definitely been stepping up
in recent days and weeks, particularly over the weekend after the NATO summit agreed to place four new battalions in Poland the Baltic states.
Russia reacted extremely angrily to that. They came out accusing NATO, and in particular Washington of confrontational steps. They accuse NATO of
living in what they call a military political mirror world, ignoring the threat of terror from its south while concentrating, as Russia said, on a
non-existent threat from the east.
Add to that, another couple of incidents, Becky. There were tit-for- tat expulsions of diplomats Russia expelled two U.S. diplomats, the U.S. expelled two Russian diplomats. That was over an incident at the U.S.
embassy in Moscow where an embassy employ was caught on CCTV being tackled by a guard. Both sides giving very different versions of facts there.
Another incident this week Tuesday into Wednesday, U.S. media was denied entry into
Russia. Russia said that was in response to U.S. sanctions on Russian individuals entering the U.S. So, a very complex relationship with a very
strange backdrop with which to potentially launch a very important military agreement.
ANDERSON: That's right. And what you are describing is the political diplomatic backdrop, as it were. If you asked people on the streets of
Moscow how they perceive the U.S. at present, what sort of answers do you get?
SEBASTIAN: Becky, what you need to understand about this is that every -- particularly when we are talking about NATO, every enlargement of
NATO, every movement of troops toward Rrussia is considered a confrontation, and Russia cannot be seen to not respond to that. President
Putin with his extremely high approval ratings, consistently will he over 80 percent, has relied on his rhetoric and
his actions in defending the country.
Russia is extremely suspicious of the west at the moment, ordinary Russians on the street
as well as the politicians. But don't forget, they very much take their lead from what President Putin does and says. And that is the backdrop
that we find there, Becky.
ANDERSON: Clare Sebastian is in Moscowfor you today. Clare, appreciate that. Thank you.
Well, the Iran nuclear deal is another project John Kerry, of course, was very involved in. Now one year on. But what's changed on the ground
in Iran? And for the Iranian people themselves?
Well, coming up I'll be joined by an expert to find out.
First up, though, the sights and sounds of Bastille Day from here in Paris.
[11:21:41] ANDERSON: Right. Welcome back. At 21 minutes past 5:00 in Paris. You are watching CNN, and Connect the World with me, Becky
Well, it's Bastille Day here in France this year. The country honoring Australia and New Zealand for their roles in the World War I
battle of the Somme. So, for you the highlights of the annual parade earlier here on the Champs Elysees.
A day of pomp and ceremony in Paris. The annual celebration of Bastille Day on July the 14. And as thousands line the Champs Elyees, this
is how it began.
Flanked by dignitaries, including the visiting U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry, the French president greeted by a trumpeteer signaling the
start of celebrations.
The first a overfly past of over 50 planes led by Patrouille de France, the French Aerobatic Patrol, in Eiffel Tower formation.
And as they fly over the Arc de Triomphe, I just want to give you a sense of the sound of these
planes. They are over the Champs Elysees now. Coming to us. It is a deafening noise they make right down towards the Place de la Concorde.
Troops from Australia and New Zealand this year marking the 100th anniversary of the Battle of the Sommes, soldiers amongst them join the
3,500 service men and women as France and the French people celebrate the Fifth Republic.
And the parade on the Champs Elysees closing out with this spectacular display. A nation united with one voice.
Well, a powerful moment for the French people. Let's chat about Bastille Day with my next guest. Nick Vinocur is a politics reporter from
Politico in France. And we have been reflecting on the week, the year, the 18 months that it has been in France this week. A nation of course still
under a state of emergency.
As we consider this Bastille Day, how do you assess the state of the French of the republic --or the Fifth Republic?
NICK VINOCUR, POLITICO FRANCE: I think the French Republic is in danger. The president himself said it in his Bastille Day speech today.
It is a fragile republic, a republic that is under threat from terrorism, from political instability, from two major forces that want to end this
particular structure of democracy. And the nation is...
ANDERSON: Those being what?
VINOCUR: Those being Marie Le Pen's National Front who explicitly wants to pull France out of the European Union, but also put an end to the
system that we have today. And then there is the far left with Jean-Luc Melenchon, the former Communist leader, who wants to end the Fifth Republic
and move on to this sixth republic, a sort of parliamentary democracy.
Everybody is taking a whack at this particular structure of government. And the place feels like it lacks confidence.
[11:25:13] ANDERSON: Interestingly, you brought up the far right and the far left because the vote -- the Brexit vote of three weeks ago and the
political drama that's been playing out in the the UK very much in the headlines. And that vote to leave the European Union many have said was a
vote of populism and it will encourage the fringes of politics around Europe.
I'm wondering how you think the French, for example, will get on with Boris Johnson, BoJo just being made the UK foreign secretary a great
campaigner for Brexit. I know that today -- and let me quote the foreign minister today, saying that he -- during the campaign Boris Johnson lied a
lot to the British people and now he will have his back against the wall. This is a quote from the foreign minister here on French radio.
How is France going to cope with this whole European Union, European project breakdown as it were at the moment?
VINOCUR: France is trying to hold the house together and avoid worsening the crisis. I think that's how they have greeted Bboris
Johnson's appointment, with a measure of worry because we know what he said. He's a very -- he's known as a French basher, somebody who likes to
needle partners across the aisle. But they can also tell the difference between rhetoric and what he will do in prime minister. And one thing
that's give them pause and given them a reason to hope is that he won't be in charge of negotiating Britain's exit from the European Union.
ANDERSON: Correct. There is a Brexit minister for that.
VINOCUR: Indeed. Right. So, that lessens the blow a little bit and makes us feel like Boris
Johnson may not be quite so important.
But France is focused on maintaining the union. It's France's project, France's dream, and it must be upheld.
ANDERSON: How did this headline go down today? "9,895 euros, that is the salary, the monthly salary of the hairdresser of the president".
VINOCUR: I would say it is a nail in the coffin of President Francois Hollande, at least politically. If there hadn't been so many other nails
before it. It is a terrible, terrible signal. No matter what explanation, to come and rationalization it, it is a awful signal. The normal
president, a leftist, a socialist, paying his personal hairdresser more than his own cabinet advisers are being paid. Emmanuel Macron was being
paid less than this, or just about the same as this hairdresser.
It is an awful symbol. It goes down very poorly in a country where people feel like elites and the regular people are completely out of touch.
And it will put Francois Hollande even deeper down in the polls.
ANDERSON: And well certainly it's being reported as an embarrass men for Francois Hollande, the French government confirming his personal
hairdresser gets paid more than $10,000 a month. That's the equivalent. And that news sparking quite a controversy with the hashtag #coiffuergate
trending on Twitter.
Parisians have got a lot of opinions about this too. Let's have a listen.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You have a lot of people, they don't have something to eat for dinner and just for -- it's incredible. Just like the
other things in France.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It's too expensive.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He has to look good, no?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Well, the president is not normal, because it's more expensive.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Good for him. In my opinion, he is working. He is making money. And you know, there is no reasonto talk about it. To be
honest, lucky him.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We think it is a little bit expensive, because as we can see Francois Holland is not very fashionable, so maybe it's too
much for him.
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ANDERSON: Francois Hollande isn't very fashionable, she says. So maybe he just needs it. I don't know.
The spokesman from the Elysees Palace, by the way, did confirm to us that this indeed is true, this story, and said, look, the guy travels a
lot. He needs to look the part.
I'm not sure at $10,000 a month that's right, though.
VINOCUR: Apparently it has to do with dying his hair and staying young and making sure that the gray doesn't show in his hair.
ANDERSON: Now you know, viewers.
Listen, quite seriously, obviously, elections are the next big story here for France. What happens?
VINOCUR: The elections are -- it's a lot of uncertainty. Usually, these things are fairly well-scripted in France. They are dominant
candidates and challengers. In this case, it is wide open. The president himself may not be able to run for his own re-election. That in itself is
unprecedented He is so unpopular that he's going to have to pass through a primary. Then you have the far right candidate, who is exceptionally
popular, polling at 30 percent, enough to break into the runoff round of hte presidential election.
And then there is the right, Nicolas Sarkozy, Alain Juppe, all these elephants, all these elder statesmen, setting up for a clash in November to
see who can challenge Francois Hollande and stop Marine Le Pen from entering power.
The whole thing is very volatile. It's worrying people in France and it's worrying the rest of Europe.
ANDERSON: Anybody thought the Euro '16 and the tournament, which in the end, you know, came to a wonderful conclusion last Sunday, sadly the
French -- for the French, sadly, Les Bleus not able to beat the Portuguese, but anybody thought that that was going to be a sort of long-term unifying
moment, I'm afraid, I think the headline is it won't be.
VINOCUR: I don't think it was. Also because of the context in which it happened. We are in a state of emergency. There's fear. People
couldn't party and walk in the streets as they did during the Eorld Cup. So the buzz, the effect has worn off very quickly.
ANDERSON: We leave it. Thank you very much, indeed. You are with us in Paris closing out the week here for you, taking a very short break.
Back after this.
[11:34:58] ANDERSON: And investigators in southern Italy are trying to figure out what caused a deadly train crash earlier this week. Two
trains collided head on on Tuesday killing at least 23 people.
Will Ripley reports now from the village of Adria (ph).
WILL RIPLEY, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Police are closely keeping watch over the scene of
this horrific crash here at this olive grove in southern Italy where a mangled pile of metal and a few partially intact train cars are all that
remain of this really awful accident that took 23 lives.
However, the investigation is now shifting from the scene here to a multiple manslaughter investigation. We are told there is a team of five
magistrates who are on the case. And so far they have announced three people are under investigation. These are workers at two local train
stations, (inaudible) and Andria (ph). They are suspended, which is standard procedure as officials look into whether it was human error or a
technical problem that led to this crash.
Horrible stories coming out, a mother who was found holding her young child, both of them who died. But also stories of hope, a 6-year-old boy
Samuele (ph) who is still in hospital with his family. He was traveling with his grandparents. They didn't make it. He did. And he celebrated
his birthday in his hospital bed still unaware, we are told, that his grandparents died.
There were four crew members, two on each train, three were killed, one did survive. And police say at some point they do expect to talk to
that person. Meanwhile, a huge show of support from the community who overwhelmed blood donation centers to try help the 50 people who were injured, eight of them still in serious condition, we're
told. But also from a tie up as the Italian President Sergio Mattarella who, along with many others, of expressing his condolences as these
families prepare to bury the dead. Funerals beginning on Saturday.
Will Ripley, CNN, Andria, Italy.
ANDERSON: Well, exactly one year ago today the Iran nuclear deal was signed. With the ink still fresh the Israeli prime minister blasted it as
an awful move.
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BENJAMIN NETANYAHU, ISRAELI PRIME MINISTER (through translator): When you are
ready to make a deal no matter what the cost, this is the result. From the first reports that are arriving it is already possible to conclude that
this agreement is a historical mistake for the world.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
ANDERSON: Well, so far at least Mr. Netanyahu has not been prove right. But it is for many quite hard to tell just what has happened.
Here's my report on the deal one year on.
JOHN KERRY, U.S. SECRETARY OF STATE: There are continuing issues. Nobody pretends that some of the challenges we have with Iran have somehow
been wiped away.
ANDERSON: U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry reflecting on the historic Iran deal signed exactly a year ago. Tehran heralded it as a new
chapter in its relations with the world.
HASSAN ROUHANI, IRANIAN PRESIDENT (through translator): We will not forget war and sanctions, but we look to peace and development.
ANDERSON: But despite major celebrations on the streets of Tehran, there is concern everyday people have seen little benefit to this historic
The IMF predicted 4 to 5.5 real GDP growth in 2016-2017, but many international companies still seem reluctant to invest in the Middle East's
second largest economy, which is slowing down job creation.
It currently ranks 118th out of 189 countries in the World Bank's 2016 ease of doing business index. That listing might not change any time soon.
John Kerry has said Iran would get $55 billion in sanctions relief after settling its debts, but he has highlighted the country has only
received $3 billion so far.
ANDERSON: Well, let's talk more, not just about the deal but Iran's wider role in the world. I'm joined via Skype by Adnan Tabatabai an expert
on Iran, and the chief executive of the think tank Looking at Asia.
And I just want to get you a sense of what John Kerry said, if I can, sir, before we start. He was of course instrumental in getting the Iran
deal signed. So let's have a listen to what he said when he spoke earlier on.
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KERRY: As of today, one year later, a program that so many people said will not work, a program that people said is absolutely doomed to see
cheating and be broken and will make the world more dangerous has, in fact, made the world safer, lived up to its
expectations, and thus far produced an ability to be able to create a peaceful nuclear program with Iran living up to its part of this bargain
(END VIDEO CLIP)
[11:40:05] ANDERSON: A year on, Adnan, do you consider the Iran deal a success?
ADNAN TABATABAI, CHIEF EXECUTIVE, LOOKING AT ASIA: I think it is. We have to be realistic here. We have the anniversary of the finalization
date, but we only have the sixth month or the seventh month of the implementation day. So, for six months only we can actually start putting
this nuclear agreement into effect with lifting of sanctions, with delegations -- political delegations, but also economic delegations,
traveling to Iran...
TABATABAI: ...and to make this deal work.
ANDERSON: Yeah, you are right to right to point out this is months, not years. But even before this deal was signed, of course, the knives
were out amongst hardliners in Tehran and conservatives in Washington. Now we have got a U.s. election fast approaching. The country of course will
soon have a new president. And it seems almost certain that it will either be Donald Trump or Hillary Clinton. Both seem set to lead a far more
hawkish White House on Iran than Mr. Obama.
So the question really is, I guess, good or bad, can this deal even survive after Mr. Obama leaves the Oval Office?
TABATABAI: You know, I think it is important to make a distinction here between the actual nuclear agreement and the spirit of it. And I
think the spirit of the nuclear agreement may in fact be in danger because the positive momentum is now undermined by political rivalry in the United States, but also in Tehran. And this different
spirit is obviously has the potential to endanger the deal as such. But I don't see us at that point yet.
It is stable in Tehran for sure. And I think Hillary Clinton will for sure not undermine the deal
because it is an achievement of the Democratic Party. And I certainly do not know what Donald Trump has in mind for the deal.
ANDERSON: Yeah. Nor does anybody else at this point I guess.
Listen, there has been a lot of hype about Iran re-entering the global market and reaping economic benefits. But as many, many reports suggest,
the average Iranian hasn't really felt any better off or any boost from this deal. So how long is that going to take?
TABATABAI: That is an interesting question. I think again it has a lot to do with how we manage expectations. A lot of what economic
delegations or business delegations have achieved so far in Iran are plans to do something to do, to bring foreign investment into Iran and this will take time until the ordinary Iranian citizen can benefit
from this and actually sense the benefits of this deal in his or her wallet.
ANDERSON: This may sound a bit sort of contextual, perhaps, and not specific to this deal, but I wonder -- Iran of course involved in many of
the Middle East conflicts from Baghdad to Sanaa, Damascus to Beirut. Among its key proxies, the heavily armed Lebanese militant group Hezbollah, for
example. Now, the U.S. has imposed sanctions on some Lebanese banks trying to choke its access to money.
But let me read you its leaders response to that. Hassan Nasrallah saying, quote, "Hezbollah's budget, its income, its expenses, everything it
eats and drinks, its weapons and rocketscome from the Islamic Republic of Iran."
He goes on to say they essentially are a de facto alternative state within Lebanon. Don't even use the banks.
When you hear and read that sort of statement and you consider the backdrop to this deal, which
is a very volatile Middle East, what do you think the implications of a statement like that are?
TABATABAI: It's difficult to tell. Obviously, this statement has brought up the big Hezbollah issue. And you get the impression that after
the nuclear program of Iran has been somehow or the nuclear conflict has been somehow resolved there is now a new issue that
needs to be brought up, and that's Hezbollah. And I think it's not news that Iran has very close ties to Hezbollah, and therefore, bringing this
card up now even though it was not part of the nuclear agreement to change Iran's regional policies makes things a bit difficult.
Obviously, the -- again, the spirit of the agreement was about creating a more peaceful Middle East. And we're missing that. We're
missing that on behalf of every involved actor in this agreement. and the other countries of the region as well.
ANDERSON: Adnan Tabatabai, an Iran expert, we thank you very much indeed for joining us on what is this one year anniversary of the deal.
It's been a year since France lost one of its rising sports stars, Jules Bianchi died nine months after sustaining severe head injuries in a
crash at the Japanese Grand Prix. He was the first Formula 1 driver to die on the race track since Ayrton Senna back in 1994.
Well, in a CNN exclusive, Amanda Davies, my colleague, sat down with Bianchi's father who feels more could have been done to prevent his son's
death. Have a listen.
PHILIPPE BIANCHI, JULES BIANCHI'S FATHER: It was a night before the Japanese Grand Prix. I give him a message. And I said to Jules I am with
you -- tomorrow I am with you in your car. No problem. And he don't respond. Not a message. Perhaps he knows that he has a problem.
AMANDA DAVIES, CNN WORLD SPORT: The next day, Sunday the 5th of October, 2014, on a rain-soaked afternoon in Japan, one of Formula 1's
rising stars suffered fatal head injuries when his car careened off track and collided at high-speed with a recovery vehicle.
Jules Bianchi never woke up and died nine months later in hospital.
A year on from Jules' death his father Philippe hasn't been able to watch the crash back, but he lives surrounded by photographs, racing
memorabilia, and his memories.
BIANCHI: It was a very, very beautiful son, good son, a good man, a good friend. A special man, really. And. sorry. Good man.
DAVIES: How often do you think of him?
BIANCHI: Every day. Every day. At the time I see his photography and I cry. Sure. It's very, very difficult to lose a children. It's not
DAVIES: An inquiry from motor sports governing body, the FIA, concluded that a number of key issues occurred which may have contributed
to the accident, though none alone caused it. Amongst other findings, it said that in the wet conditions, Jules didn't, quote, slow sufficiently to
avoid losing control.
That's something that Bianchi's dispute. They are pursuing legal action against their son's former team, Bernie Ecclestone's Formula 1
Management, and the FIA.
BIANCHI: Jules' crash it's not crash -- a Formula 1 crash. It is a crash that you can have on the road here, but not on the Formula 1 race.
DAVIES: What is the biggest motivation for you? Is it for somebody to be held accountable, or do you just want an apology?
BIANCHI: My motivation is just to make justice for Jules. I know that Jules is here. And when he listens that some people said that it is
his responsibility it's not possible.
DAVIES: After the accident, Formula 1 did make some changes to improve safety, altering race start times, and introducing a virtual safety
car. But Bianchi thinks there needs to be more of a shift in ethos.
BIANCHI: Formula 1 has to be more spectacular, sure. But more than Jules, is stupid because you have to change for more security because my
son died. He is dead now.
DAVIES: Bianchi doesn't watch F1 anymore. He says it's too painful.
But rather than turning his back on the sport all together, Philippe has set up the Jules Bianchi
Society to nurture the drivers of the future.
BIANCHI: In a few years, you have one driver who was a lover of Jules and arriving from
Rwanda for families like Jules, turn back to Formula 1. Now Jules, it's his life.
DAVIES: Amanda Davies, CNN, Nice, France.
ANDERSON: And we will be right back.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: In Rwanda's capital Kigali, Jocelyn Umutoniwase is busy creating her latest collection of high end women's fashion.
JOCELYN UMUTONIWASE, FOUNDER, RWANDA CLOTHING: We are a company specializing in unique and special pieces. And those pieces have a touch
of Africa. I design every collection with the aim to make the customer happy and to make them be able to express their individuality.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Joycelyn founded Rwanda Clothing in 2012, but her big break came in Europe in 2010 when she was invited to show her work
UMUTONIWASE: I created a collection of 25 pieces, which I took with me to Germany. And people, they were very happy, and they gave me really
good response. And from there, I started asking myself why not creating a company in Rwanda.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: With the money earned from selling her first collection, and help from friends, she opened her first shop. Today,
Rwanda clothing sells around 60 designer pieces each month. Joycelyn believes the key to building the business is continually updating her
UMUTONIWASE: So in my new collection we have quite a lot of pieces with hand stitched. The inspiration came from our traditional patterns.
And you know, the women, they sit down and stitch those by hand.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The growing success of her brand, which combines European and African influences also helps to build the fashion industry in
UMUTONIWASE: In our workshop, we have ten tillers and two assistants who are helping in the production. Now, I have models in my country who I
can access easily and also provide them an access to the market, because for them they get experience. So I'm proud to use the Rwandan models.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: She still has to overcome some challenges.
UMUTONIWASE: The first challenge is we are facing is to find people with enough knowledge to be able to create such a unique pieces and to make
them become reality for us. The second challenge is to be able to access the international market.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: To address these challenges, Jocelyn is training tailors at her workshop and presents her collections at fashion shows
abroad to attract international buyers. She has big plans for the future.
UMUTONIWASE: The first one is to expand and to be able to open one more shop in Kigali. The second one is to be able to provide our service
online. The third one I would like to open a small school here and to give knowledge to people, the young people who want to become designers, and
also to train tailors.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: And with two of her sisters, her brother and her husband working with her, this is very much a family enterprise giving
Joycelyn the strength to move forward with her plans.
[11:51:30] ANDERSON: Right. Well, (SPEAKING IN FOREIGN LANGUAGE) or as we may put it slightly less poetically in English it's Bastille Day here
in France. And the country has been celebrating. The tricolor painted the sky earlier when jets raced above my head.
And this on the Champs Elysees just behind me here, a parade by the army.
Bastille Day, essentially France's national day, celebrating the French Revolution all the way back in 1789.
And those were your parting shots. Vive la France.
It's been an incredible week here in Paris. And you can find the highlights from our team's here and much more over on Connect the World's
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