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DNC Speech Predictions; Clinton, Trump to Speak at Same Event During DNC; Governor Tom Wolf on a Hillary Clinton Vote; Teen Nightclub Shooting in Florida Kills 2, Injures 14; Suicide Attack in Southern Germany, Investigation Ongoing. Aired 10:30-11a ET

Aired July 25, 2016 - 10:30   ET

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[10:30:00] ROBBY MOOK, CAMPAIGN MANAGER, HILLARY FOR AMERICA: I can't comment on that. But again, I -- what we, what we are pointing to as a campaign is the reporting that all of you are doing on this topic. And what the cybersecurity experts are saying, so.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Thanks, everybody.

MOOK: Thank you.

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CAROL COSTELLO, CNN ANCHOR: All right, that was Robby Mook, Hillary Clinton's campaign manager talking about Debbie Wasserman Schultz and more. So Alex I will start with you. He seemed rather chipper to me, which was a surprise. Because you know, because of the reception that Debbie Wasserman Schultz got at the breakfast meeting this morning.

ALEX BURNS, CNN POLITICAL ANALYST: What's not to be chipper about, Carol? I thought she was great (ph). You don't see these -- the convention on fire behind you. No look, I think, I think one huge advantage that the Clinton campaign has now over the Trump campaign last week, is that the institutional party is genuinely united behind her, right?

So even prominent standard surrogates are saying you know, it's time to move on, it's time to come together. You're not going to have -- unless perhaps Debbie Wasserman Schultz goes ahead with speaking -- the same kind of chaos on the convention floor. The difficulty for Democrats is what happened outside of the convention. And what the folks who were protesting on the streets yesterday were saying.

And you know, I can just tell you on my phone just now, on social media, people blowing up saying, "you are underestimating the extent of the anger out there about Hillary Clinton." There are millions of people who will never vote for her. And frankly, the polling doesn't reflect that right now. It doesn't suggest some kind of mass exodus from the Democratic Party. But it doesn't take a mass exodus to be a really big problem.

COSTELLO: Well but you have Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders speaking tonight. So depending on what they say, could that just make this all go away and could it really become an asterisk (ph)? JACKIE KUCINICH, CNN POLITICAL ANALYST: I just don't -- I -- it

really depends on what they say, you're absolutely right. And how passionately -- particularly Bernie Sanders, not so much Elizabeth Warren -- I mean, Elizabeth Warren has been very adamant about her support for Hillary Clinton for about a month now. Bernie Sanders has been quieter, it's been a little bit more -- just have to draw it out a little bit more.

Still I think there will be the loyalty to his ideas. And there's always -- be some discontent out there. Even if he does full throatedly endorse her this evening.

COSTELLO: And you heard what he said about the Russian hackers hacking into the DNC's email system, right, their server. And they are responsible for these leaked emails. And maybe Putin is behind it, we don't know. So he's even given credence to this theory that maybe Russia is helping Donald Trump ...

JENNIFER GRANHOLM, SENIOR ADVISOR, "CORRECT THE RECORD" SUPERPAC: Who knows what's -- we do know the Russians hacked, that I think everybody agrees on ...

COSTELLO: Right.

GRANHOLM: But the motivation behind it, who knows. But you noticed, you say he was chipper. Because he really wants to get on showing people what this great lineup of speakers is tonight, what the topics are tonight. Because tonight really is about families and how families' economies need to rise. And her specific mechanisms for doing that, and there'll be real people who will be onstage saying this is how she's helped me ...

COSTELLO: But do you think any of the speakers, Elizabeth Warren, for example, will bring up the Russian hackers ...

GRANHOLM: No.

COSTELLO: ... and if Vladimir ... you don't think so?

BURNS: I don't think so.

COSTELLO: No? You think ...

SCOTTIE NELL HUGHES, CNN POLITICAL COMMENTATOR: I don't think you're going to hear that. And I think what Elizabeth Warren, and Bernie Sanders, both will say. They're going to say -- who are they going to be talking to? Are they going to be talking to, like you said, the people within the convention center, the establishment, that have all united around Hillary Clinton? Or more importantly, the people that are now engaged within the Democratic Party that might not have been before.

I mean, you're looking at 85 percent of the 13 million people who voted for Bernie Sanders is 45 years and under. Who are they talking to? They have a real fine line to walk because that is their base. That is the people that elected them into their office. And so -- and one of the big platforms, why people like those two, is

because they're against Wall Street, they're against the big banks. Something that Hillary Clinton -- a stigma that Hillary Clinton, as well as her Vice President, both have on them (ph) ...

COSTELLO: But is there evidence that Bernie Sanders supporters would gravitate toward Trump?

HUGHES: It's not necessarily about gravitating towards Trump. It would be nice, we welcome them in. There's no doubt about that. There are some common things. More importantly, are they going to be as motivated in November to go to the polls. Them staying home and not voting is still a vote for Trump.

COSTELLO: OK and so it could ...

GRANHOLM: That is so true. And thank you for making the point. And they don't -- I mean they -- I would say 95 percent, maybe, 90 percent of the Bernie Sanders supporters are not going to be Trump supporters, in the end. And tonight's messaging will make sure that that enthusiasm issue that you talked about, Scottie, is addressed.

COSTELLO: OK. Again my -- I'm sorry and I apologize to my viewers. I'm having terrible problems with my IFB. My EP talks to me throughout the show to tell me about break the news. So she's telling me to wrap right now. Thank you all so very much ...

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COSTELLO: ... you have great conversation. Alex Burns, Jennifer Granholm, Jackie Kucinich, Scottie Nell Hughes. I'll be right back.

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COSTELLO: Several hours from now the curtain goes up at the Democratic National Convention. But Hillary Clinton will stay on the campaign trail today. CNN's Joe Johns in Charlotte, North Carolina where Clinton is due to speak just minutes from now. Hi Joe.

JOE JOHNS, CNN SENIOR WASHINGTON CORRESPONDENT: Hi Carol. Hillary Clinton is expected to come here to Charlotte, North Carolina to address the Veterans of Foreign Wars convention in just a little while. She comes to this city at a time when she is expected to talk about issues of NATO, of Veterans affairs. But also of national security at a time her campaign is suggesting there may be a national security element embedded in the compromise of Democratic National Committee email.

No word from the campaign at all on whether she will address that question that is out there. Whether Russia might be trying to influence the United States presidential campaign. Meanwhile, we do know Donald Trump is also appearing at this very same convention tomorrow morning. He will be arriving here at a time when he's already gotten a post-convention bounce from the Democratic -- the Republican National Convention, I should say.

A six point bounce which is certainly significant. We can also see to the latest CNN-ORC poll that Hillary Clinton continues to have huge problems with the issue of honesty and trustworthiness, according to respondents of the poll. Hillary Clinton talked a little bit about the way people characterize her at the Republican National Convention last night on 60 minutes. Listen:

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HILLARY CLINTON (D), PRESUMPTIVE DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE: I don't know what their convention was about other than criticizing me. I seem to be the only unifying theme that they had. There was no positive agenda. It was a very dark, divisive campaign. And the people who were speaking were painting a picture of our country that I did not recognize.

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JOHNS: Hillary Clinton expected to appear here in Charlotte sometime after 11:00 Eastern time. After the speech before the VFW she is expected to make her way to the convention in Philadelphia. Carol, back to you.

COSTELLO: All right, Joe Johns reporting live from Charlotte, North Carolina. Pennsylvania is also one of the crucial battleground states in this election. I'm joined now by Pennsylvania's governor, Tom Wolf. Welcome, sir.

TOM WOLF (D), GOVERNOR OF PENNSYLVANIA: Thanks, Carol.

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COSTELLO: Thanks for being here, I do appreciate it. So what do you want to talk about first?

WOLF: Baseball? I ...

COSTELLO: Baseball, right. It is a beautiful -- well, it's beautiful here ...

WOLF: Hot.

COSTELLO: ... It's hot but it's still, Philadelphia is a beautiful, gorgeous city.

WOLF: It is.

COSTELLO: But the ...

WOLF: Thank you for pointing that out ...

COSTELLO: You're welcome, anytime. So let's start with the rather chaotic start to this Democratic convention. Democrats were hoping that there would be -- unity would be the only word that was used during this convention. And on the very first day we have what's happening with Debbie Wasserman Schultz. So ...

WOLF: Unity's still the word. I think the Chairman -- Debbie did the right thing. And we're going to move on and we're going to get to the unity ...

COSTELLO: Should she speak on the convention -- should she gavel things to order, or should she skip that?

WOLF: Here's what we should do. We should all unite around Hillary Clinton and win in November. And that's what everybody wants to do. Because if we don't unite, we're not going to win. And that would be a terrible thing.

COSTELLO: But at this point Debbie Wasserman Schultz is a distraction isn't she?

WOLF: I think she has been a good leader. She has done what she thinks she ought to do and we've got to move on.

COSTELLO: She's been a good leader. Did you read some of those leaked emails?

WOLF: OK, we need to move on. This is about unity. And I know, I know you want to talk about -- but this is a side issue. The issue of this convention is ...

COSTELLO: But is it a side issue? Because Bernie Sanders has charged throughout the campaign that the DNC was against him. And these leaked emails actually show that.

WOLF: Senator Sanders is going to speak tonight. And I hope he says what needs to be said. That we have had a good fight, that disagreements -- we'll continue to have disagreements within the party. But at the end of the day we're going to have to unite to defeat Donald Trump in November. And if we don't unite, we're not going to win and that's not going to be a good thing for anybody.

COSTELLO: He -- Senator Sanders will talk about unity in endorsing Hillary Clinton. But his supporters are not happy. So how do you convince them that it's not a rigged system? That the election was fair and square -- and there's no indication that it wasn't but you know what they're thinking.

WOLF: I think every nominating convention that comes at the end of a hard fought primary, you'll have these issues. But again, that's what the primary campaign is about. And we have -- this has lasted what, almost two years. And we're getting to the point now where we have to say, "OK we've had our say. We've said the things we have to say. We've had our disagreements. And the Party has accommodated those. We have taken those things into account and we are moving forward. We've got to be united or something very different than either Bernie or Hillary is going to prevail in November."

And I think that's what's going to make us united. Hillary Clinton's going to be a really ... COSTELLO: So let's talk about that, what you're talking about, and

his name is Donald Trump, right? So the voters in Pennsylvania, a good portion of them really liked what he had to say. Because they do believe that the economy is in a bad place. That crime is too rampant across the United States. That foreign policy's a mess. So that's a tall order for Hillary Clinton and the other speakers at this convention. So what do you say to those voters who are still deciding, who do think America's a dark place?

WOLF: Well I ran in Pennsylvania and actually won. And I think the reason I won the only Democratic gubernatorial pickup in the United States in 2014 was because people back in 2014 wanted then, as they want now, fairness. And they want a just system where the benefits, the economic benefits are spread broadly.

That's why I think I won, and that's why I think Hillary's going to win. Because her message is a lot stronger on that -- that's what her message is, fairness and equity. And that's not what Donald Trump's -- that's not what the Republican message is. It worked for me, it's going to work for Hillary.

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COSTELLO: You know I'm from the Midwest. Midwesterners from Ohio, right next door. So I think, I think Midwesterners want someone they can trust in office. That when you say to us something, you're going to follow through. And when you look at the latest polls, Hillary Clinton still has this terrible problem with trust. 68 percent don't trust her. Why do you think that is?

WOLF: I don't know. But, because -- I'll tell you why -- the reason I don't know -- she has been absolutely consistent throughout her life. From the time she was in college. Fairness matters to her. It mattered back when she was in college, it matters to her now. It matters -- I think it mattered to her when she was in high school.

She has been absolutely consistent on that. So I'm not sure how you can't trust someone for whom fairness has been a continuous thing throughout her life. She didn't just come to it because this is a good thing for a campaign. She's been doing that all her life. So I think she's really a trust ...

COSTELLO: But that perception is out there. Last night on 60 minutes you heard what she said. She said that there is a different standard for her. Is that true?

WOLF: I don't -- I trust her. I believe that she is going to do what she says she is going to do. And I believe she has the capacity and the confidence to do what she says she is going to do. And that's what America needs. America doesn't need platitudes, and huffing and puffing, and that kind of thing. It needs somebody who absolutely knows what to do in a position of responsibility.

She has shown, in different positions of responsibility, she knows how to exercise those responsibilities responsibly. And I think she's going to do a great job as President of the United States. I'm a strong supporter.

COSTELLO: Governor Wolf, thank you so much for stopping by.

WOLF: Thank you very much.

COSTELLO: Philadelphia truly is a beautiful city.

WOLF: Thank you very much.

COSTELLO: Thank you so much. Fresh off his post-convention bounce in the polls, Donald Trump isn't ready to give up the spotlight to the Democrats this week, of course. Trump and his running mate, Mike Pence, are hitting the trail in two swing states today for the first time since accepting the GOP nomination. The pair will hold a town hall this afternoon in Roanoke, Virginia. And then cap the day with a rally in Winston-Salem, North Carolina.

Still to come in the Newsroom. Germany attacked again. This time a suicide bomber detonates an explosives outside of a music concert. Our Atika Shubert just got access to the crime scene. We'll take you there next.

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COSTELLO: A club shooting on teen night kills two people in Florida. Police just moments ago revealing the names and ages of the two victims killed. They were 14 and 18 years old. Gunfire broke out just after midnight in Ft. Myers. At least 14 others were hurt. The youngest victim now recovering is 12. Police say they have taken three people of interest into custody. We're told all three of those people are adults. The investigation, of course, is ongoing.

For the third time in a week a violent attack rattles Southern Germany. Authorities now investigating if the attacker was Islamist motivated. German police are also searching the home of a 27-year old Syrian national who detonated a suicide bomb outside of a music festival, injuring 12 people. His home was located in this hotel which is used as a shelter for refugees. CNN's Atika Shubert joins me live from the scene. Tell us more, Atika.

ATIKA SHUBERT, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well Carol, police have just allowed us into the crime scene. And this is quite extraordinary because they have not entirely cleaned it up. They've done all the forensic evidence gathering they've needed. But take a look at this. I mean it gives you sense of what was happening. There are cards still out on the table. I can see blood stains.

This chair in particular seems to be twisted out and it's back blown out. There is also some blood here. And I believe this may be where the main force of that explosion was. If you look over here, there's a lot of press walking in and out here, but you can see the chalk outline here, used by police to draw where the body of the attacker was found. He was the only one killed in the attack, but more than a dozen others

were injured. And now to give you a sense of the force of the explosion, it wasn't that big. But you can see here, cracked right through the glass in a number of places. And you can see a lot of cameras here as well. Also cracked through here.

And what we know from police is that he packed explosives into his bag. But he also packed metal bolts, ball bearings, and screws to cause maximum damage. And that's what looks like came right through here. In fact, more than a dozen people injured, they were mostly injured from those bits of metal flying all around.

There's still a bit of cracked glass over there as well. And if you look over here, this tells you less -- some blood stains still on the ground, as well, unfortunately. If you look over here, this actually tells you less about the force of the explosion but just what was happening that night. You've got glasses of beer still full, glasses of wine half full as well. People were just drinking here, having a good time. Maybe going to the music festival.

What we know from police and prosecutors is that he tried to go to the music festival with the backpack but he didn't have a ticket so he was denied entry. He then sort of wandered in, sat down at this wine bar, and according to eyewitnesses, he leaned forward and that's when he exploded.

The fact that we're able to be here now, that police have allowed us in, is extraordinary access to what is a relatively fresh crime scene, Carol.

COSTELLO: All right, Atika Shubert reporting live for us, thanks so much. And thank you for joining me today. I'm Carol Costello. " AT THIS HOUR" with Berman and Bolduan after a break.

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