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Trump Aims To Reset Campaign With Economy Speech; New Poll Shows Clinton With Double Digit Lead; Fourteen Gold Medals Up For Grabs In Day Three Of Olympics; Delta Flights Resuming After Computer Outage; At Least 70 Killed In Pakistan Hospital Bombing; Erdogan And Putin Patch Up Relationship; Reports: U.S. Backed Militias Close To Retaking Manbij; Japan's Emperor Seems To Hint At Stepping Down; Trump Slams Clinton's Economic Agenda; Brazil's Number Of Drug Tests Called Into Question; Amazon "Dash" Meant To Ease Home Shopping. Aired 3-4p ET
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[15:01:23] HANNAH VAUGHAN JONES, CNN ANCHOR: Hello there. I'm Hannah Vaughan Jones in tonight for Hala Gorani. We're live from CNN London and
this is THE WORLD RIGHT NOW.
Good evening to you. Donald Trump says he wants to jump-start the U.S. economy and in his words, it won't even be that hard. The Republican
presidential nominee outlined what he calls an America first economic plan.
That was a short time ago. He's proposing a moratorium on new government regulations calling them a massive lead weight dragging down the economy.
Mr. Trump also wants to overhaul international trade agreements and he's proposing tax breaks for both individuals and corporations.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
DONALD TRUMP (R), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: I am proposing an across the board income tax reduction, especially for middle income Americans. This
will lead to millions of new and really good paying jobs. The rich will pay their fair share, but no one will pay so much that it destroys jobs or
undermines our ability as a nation to compete.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
JONES: It wasn't a typical Trump speech. He carefully stuck to the script, reading off a teleprompter and barely even flinched when he was
interrupted by protesters 14 times.
JONES: Let's bring in CNN's Richard Quest, host, of course, of "QUEST MEANS BUSINESS." We're also joined by CNN political analyst, Josh Rogin.
Gentlemen, thanks very much for being with us on the program.
Richard to you first, Donald Trump has been accused in the past of being light on policy and substance. Now that we've heard his first economic
ideas, does it all add up?
RICHARD QUEST, CNN MONEY EDITOR-AT-LARGE: Well, it adds up slightly more than his last tax plan, which was presented in September, November of last
year. Then he came up with three rates of income tax, 10, 15, and 25. Today, he has increased the rate of income tax at the top level by some 30
percent to match that from the Congressional Republican leadership.
So the long and short of it, Hannah, yes, we've got more numbers from Mr. Trump, and yes, the latest numbers look more economically viable. But the
experts I've been talking to today say that this latest plan would still blow a hole in the deficit.
It relies too much on increased economic growth rather than any form of spending cuts to pay for these tax cuts. There are very finely just three
things to note, he wants to cut income tax, he wants to cut corporate tax, and he wants to give a massive tax break for childcare. He hasn't said how
he's going to pay for it.
JONES: Yes, I was going to ask you actually, Richard, about that childcare tax breaks. More details he's promised will come later down the line, but
he's really trying to make some inwards now into Hillary Clinton's mom-in- chief kind of strategy.
QUEST: Look, Hannah, there is a reason why governments have not done these things before, and it's not just ideological. There is a reason why tax
cuts haven't taken tax rates down to 25% or indeed offered unlimited tax credits for childcare. It is because it is exorbitantly expensive.
You make money on taxes by hitting the middle classes. That is the sad reality of fiscal policy. You don't make it by hitting the rich and you
don't save much by saving on the poor. You make it on the middle classes.
What Donald Trump has done in his tax plan is basically come up with a plan that gives away, but doesn't necessarily tell us how he's going to get it
back. It's a case of, nice plan, more detail needed.
[15:05:13]JONES: OK, Josh, let's talk to Josh about the politics of all this now. I want to ask you first about the Republican movement. Do you
think that this speech was finally a way of saying that Donald Trump and the House Republicans are back in step with each other and that he's
starting to heed the advice of those who say he needed to change the tone of his campaign somewhat?
JOSH ROGIN, CNN POLITICAL ANALYST: Well, that's certainly the spin that Republican insiders are providing today. This plan is more in line with
what we've seen from GOP leaders like Paul Ryan.
But overall, it's still really at odds with the overall basic Republican philosophy on trade and the economy. Donald Trump talked about
Americanism, not globalism. He talked about withdrawing from trade agreements that the U.S. has been engaged in.
These are policies the U.S. Chamber of Commerce has said previously would weaken the economy, provide fewer jobs, and higher prices. So yes, this is
sort of a nod, let's say a concession to the Republican establishment.
But it doesn't put them nearly close to each other in terms of what actual policies they think would benefit the economy. In the end, Trump is
promoting very proudly in fact an isolationist, protectionist insourced trade and manufacturing policy that harkens back to an era that simply
doesn't exist in the world economy.
It's in essence the opposite of what Republican policy has been for the last 30 years.
JONES: He did this much more measured, as we mentioned before, he was reading off a teleprompter. He wasn't particularly swayed by those
protesters. He was still very, very aggressive when talking about Hillary Clinton, and perhaps he indeed needs to.
Richard and Josh, stay with me, because I wanted to bring viewers up to speed with the latest poll of polls. Mr. Trump is trying to get his
campaign back on track after a series of controversies, not least in the last week as well.
He does need to gain some ground against Hillary Clinton. Look at this new CNN poll of polls which incorporates six major polls conducted after the
Republican and Democratic conventions, it does indicate that Hillary Clinton holds a ten-point lead over Donald Trump.
And that's nationwide. So Josh Rogin, if I could just come back to you, given the fact that he knows the polls are what they are and he's just
given that speech, do you think he's starting to sound a little bit more presidential?
ROGIN: Well, it's been a roller coaster back and forth, we've seen this story a thousand times. Donald Trump will engage himself needlessly in a
bunch of controversies just due to a lack of self-discipline, and then he'll give a speech reading from a teleprompter and everyone will wonder if
he's finally learned his lesson.
We have to wait 48 hours and see if he can really stick to this new discipline. I mean, the bottom line here is that Donald Trump is Donald
Trump. He's not about to change. He'll continue to give the majority of his speeches off the cuff and without preparation.
You know, it's good for him in the sense that it stems the bleeding, we're now not talking about his fight with a gold star family, his mangling of
foreign policy, and his invented stories about what happened in Iran last year.
So that's fine. But nobody I think inside the Trump campaign or out believes that a detailed speech on economic policy is going to change the
polls. It doesn't work that way. That's why Trump has avoided detailed policies this whole cycle, right.
He has to turn the focus back on Hillary Clinton and start reclaiming his sort of mantle as someone who can speak for people and not against people.
That remains to be seen.
JONES: Richard, just the last word to you then, do you think this is the start of much more serious policy announcements from now on until November
from Donald Trump?
QUEST: I think you'll see two different types of policy announcements. You'll see the off-the-cuff comments that he makes on speeches, and you'll
see the documents that will be prepared for his website.
Every now and again he'll give a speech with a teleprompter where he will attempt to give a summary of the document. But the reality is, as Josh
elegantly put it, Donald Trump is Donald Trump, and this is not any election like we've ever seen before.
So I would not expect long-winded, detailed analyses in speeches on policy. It will be left to us to try and find them on the websites.
JONES: It will be very hard for all of us to predict anything from Donald Trump and indeed Hillary Clinton as well over the next couple of months.
But for now, Richard Quest, Josh Rogin, thank you very much.
We turn to Rio now, and an Olympic boxer has been arrested, accused of trying to rape a housekeeper at the Olympic Village. Namibian Jonas Junias
who was a flag bearer on Friday's opening ceremony is accused of grabbing and kissing the housekeeper.
He is the second boxer arrested in the last week and suspected of attempted rape. A Moroccan boxer was arrested for allegedly attempting to rape two
[15:10:08]While the run-up to the games was beset with problems and controversy, much of the focus now is on the festival of sport, 14 gold
medals are up for grabs today. Let's look at how that medal table is looking. The U.S. out in front with 12 medals followed by Italy and China.
Let's go live to Rio and speak to World Sport's Don Riddell. Don, good to see you on the program. Let's talk about the sport instead of the
scandals. Rivalry in the pool as you might expect between the Americans and the Russians, tell us more about that.
DON RIDDELL, CNN WORLD SPORTS: Yes, I guess if we go back through the history of the Olympics and sport in general, Russia and America have on
many occasions taken part in grudge matches. I think we've got an absolute classic to look forward to this evening.
You could cite political history, you could cite frankly doping controversy. We're talking about the Russia's Yulia Efimova and Lilly King
of the United States in the 100 meter breast stroke.
And they both were in action last night, and what happened was that Lilly King after her performance in one of the heats, raised a finger as to if
say I'm number one, and then Efimova did the same, I'm number one. This really, really upset King.
And I'll tell you why. Efimova has a history of drug cheating. She actually failed the test for meldonium earlier this year. She was linked
to the World Anti-Doping Agency's damning report of Russian doping this year.
Somehow, and nobody quite knows why, she's been allowed to compete. When she took to the arena last night, the Brazilian crowd booed her. It got
really testy between these two with, at the end of the night, King firing back at her saying, "I'm number one, wagging her finger, and delivering an
even better performance than her Russian opponent.
They'll be going up against each other in the final tonight. I think we can expect fireworks. I'm not sure it's quite going to be Rocky 4 in the
pool, but we'll see. We're all going to be keeping an eye on that.
Meanwhile, we have seen some other fantastic action in the pool, terrific action for the American team. Katie Ledecky has absolutely owned swimming
since 2013. She was streets ahead of the field in her 400-meter freestyle event last night, winning gold, dropping her record by two seconds.
If you put an iPhone up at the side of the pool and tried to take a picture of the action, you couldn't get Ledecky and the chasing pack in. That was
the distance between them.
And of course, Michael Phelps doing phenomenally well again, adding another gold medal to his overall haul, he now has 19 gold medals, 23 in total for
the Americans in last night in the relays -- Hannah.
JONES: Phenomenal success for Michael Phelps. Another type of water-based sport, the rowing, this wasn't hampered by weather conditions, but it looks
like that competition is getting going again.
RIDDELL: Yes. Of course, they lost an entire day on Sunday because of the weather. It was really, really windy here yesterday. Gusts of up to 67
kilometers per hour. We had a boat capsize and it was unrowable.
So the good news is they got out today, they're trying to catch up. We did have another capsize, a Kazakhstan rower hitting the drink almost as soon
as he had begun his race. We're not quite sure why that happened.
We're not sure if it was due to waves or basically something else went wrong. We do understand the forecast is going to be worse for tomorrow.
It's pretty blustery around here now, you can probably see it's pretty gray and overcast.
The wind is picking up too. We'll see how they get on tomorrow. The good news for the rowers is that they have at least managed to get started here.
JONES: Don, we appreciate it. Don Riddell live for us there in Rio with a rundown of all of the latest sporting action from the Olympic Games.
We will, of course, have much more from Rio later on, as the number of drug tests samples from Brazil's own team is now coming into question. All the
sport and more scandal as well, coming in 30 minutes' time.
Delta Airlines flights are now resuming after a system-wide computer outage grounded thousands of flights earlier on today. Hundreds of thousands of
passengers were left stranded for about six hours at airports across the world. So far, Delta has cancelled more than 420 flights.
Martin Savidge joins us from the world's busiest airport, Atlanta Jackson International. Martin, you're there in the hub of it all. Are things back
on track or there is still a huge backlog of people to try to clear?
MARTIN SAVIDGE, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Hey, Hannah. It's nice to see you. Let me show you what we're dealing with. It is almost uncanny how empty it
is here. The indication is that that's not the real barometer. This was packed.
There were long lines this morning as people tried to change their flights or figure out if they were going to fly anywhere at all. If you want to
really know what's going on, look at the departure board.
[15:15:06]And there you see a very different story. You see still that there are a lot of flights up there that at least domestically are dealing
with some lengthy delays, some of them are now fetching on four hours or more.
On the international flights, the good news is most of them are showing tonight that they're leaving either close to on time or right on time,
which of course for Europeans tomorrow means their flights should be fairly back to normal when it comes to Delta Airlines and any of the subsequent
carriers that use that airline.
But this impact has been worldwide and that's the thing about it. It happened with a power outage which Delta has yet to explain, but then it
just continued to somersault around the world.
It began with the flights leaving here, then those flights that were in Europe, and it just went on and on and on and on. And this is an airline
that has 6,000 departures.
So those numbers of cancellations, a couple of hundred, is actually very low. There was at one point where their entire fleet around the world was
grounded. The airline has been able to recoup and regain.
The long term impact is still to be measured. And the big question is, what the heck happened? We have yet to hear that -- Hannah.
JONES: OK, we wait to hear from Delta as to what caused this outage. But in the meantime, Martin Savidge, we appreciate it, thank you.
You're watching THE WORLD RIGHT NOW. Still to come tonight, a massive bombing in Pakistan leaves dozens dead in a suicide attack on a hospital.
We'll have all the details on that coming up next.
Plus the violent struggle for Aleppo, as all-out war for control of the Syrian city rages. The latest developments on the ground, ahead.
JONES: Hello. Welcome back. You're watching THE WORLD RIGHT NOW. I'm Hannah Vaughan Jones standing in for Hala Gorani. At least 70 people are
now known to have lost their lives and more than 100 have been injured after a bomb blast at a hospital in Western Pakistan. It happened in the
city of Quetta as a crowd gathered following the death of a prominent lawyer earlier on in the day. CNN's Michael Holmes has more details.
MICHAEL HOLMES, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Chaos in the city of Quetta after a suicide bombing at a busy hospital. This man says there
were bodies and blood everywhere after the blast ripped through the crowded emergency ward and it appears this was a carefully targeted attack.
Many lawyers and journalists were gathered at the hospital when the bomb went off. They were there to mourn the death of a prominent local lawyer
who had been killed in a shooting earlier in the day.
SAEED SHAH, "WALL STREET JOURNAL" REPORTER: The scene of the attack was utter horror. They assassinated a lawyer. They then waited for lawyers to
gather at the hospital to receive his body from the mortuary before sending in a suicide bomber.
[15:20:01]HOLMES: Dozens were killed. More than 100 injured and the death toll is expected to climb according to local officials. Pakistan's prime
minister among the many who strongly condemned the attack.
SHAH: This really is the terrorists saying we're still here, despite all these counterterrorism operations over the last couple of years which have
had a big effect. The terrorists are very much saying that we're still around and we can still hit you.
HOLMES: Several lawyers have been targeted during a recent wave of killings in Quetta. This latest attack a reminder that the militant groups
like the Taliban are far from being defeated in Pakistan. Michael Holmes, CNN, London.
JONES: More than a million demonstrators waving Turkey's deep red flag greeted the Turkish president, Recep Tayyip Erdogan, on Sunday, during a
massive rally. They were protesting against the failed coup last month.
Opposition leaders were also onstage along with Mr. Erdogan and members of his ruling party. The president told the crowd he'll approve reinstating
Turkey's death penalty for the coup plotters if the parliament passes the legislation.
There is someone else who is also uniting with Turkey's president and it may come as something of a surprise given their contentious relationship.
It's Russian President Vladimir Putin. Our senior international correspondent, Matthew Chance, explains now from St. Petersburg.
MATTHEW CHANCE, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): This is the moment Turkish interceptors blasted a Russian warplane after the
skies over the Turkish-Syrian border last November.
As it plunged in a fireball, relations between Moscow and Ankara also crashed in flames. Russia's infuriated president could barely contain his
Today's loss for us was like a stab in the back delivered by the accomplices of terrorists, he said at the time. It will have serious
consequences, he promised, for Russia's relations with Turkey. He wasn't kidding.
He blocked trade ties with Ankara halting chartered flights and banning Turkish workers. The Russian Defense Ministry released this video saying
it proves the Turkish leader and his family profited from the sale of ISIS oil in Syria and Iraq, an allegation President Erdogan denied.
(on camera): For months it seemed the bitterness between Putin and Erdogan, his Turkish counterpart would never heal. The two were at odds
over Syria, but it had become personal too, a battle of wills between two autocratic hardliners. But then suddenly something changed.
Perhaps it was economic necessity. But the Turkish president unexpectedly move to heal with the rift with the kremlin expressing regret to the
families of the pilot who was killed in the shoot down.
Putin quickly responded by lifting sanctions and beginning what he said was a process of normalizing trade ties. A summit in St. Petersburg is meant
to cement that rekindled partnership.
(voice-over): But its timing after a failed military coup against President Erdogan last month has given the meeting extra significance with
the Turkish crackdown on opponents, relations with the west are strained, presenting the kremlin with an opportunity.
(on camera): Is it also about Putin trying to pry Turkey away from the west, away from NATO, away from the Europeans, and bring turkey into
ALEXANDER SHUMLIN, RUSSIAN ACADEMY OF SCIENCES: Absolutely. But I don't think he's so much hopeful to get Turkey into the Russian orbit, but to
increase the divisions within the western community, within NATO. It is one of the purposes, one of the goals designed by Russia.
HOLMES (voice-over): Turkish officials deny the Russian visit means they're turning their backs on the west. But this roller coaster
Putin/Erdogan relationship, from bitter enemies to best of friends, is giving Turkey's allies pause for thought. Matthew Chance, CNN, St.
JONES: The great battle for Aleppo. That's what a new alliance of rebels is calling the raging fighting for control of Syria's largest city.
Government war planes are raining waves of bombs onto the fighters after they reportedly pushed their way through Syrian government lines this
weekend puncturing the siege that is, of course, choking that city.
These new images of a rebel-held area of Aleppo have just come into us here at CNN. To the east of Aleppo, there is also fierce fighting in a city of
Manbij, once an ISIS stronghold.
There are reports that American-backed militias are now close to taking full control of that city, even offering ISIS fighters a safe way out if
they let the people they're using as human shields go free.
[15:25:07]Our Fred Pleitgen has exclusive footage now from inside that city.
FREDERIK PLEITGEN, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): These are America's most important allies in the war against ISIS in Syria.
The Syrian Democratic Forces or SDF have been pushing the terror group back for months. But this could be their most important victory yet. Fighters
say they've all but liberated the strategic town of Manbij.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE (through translator): We have taken these areas away from ISIS.
PLEITGEN: This video obtained exclusively by CNN shows the Syrian Democratic Forces in house to house combat. The group is made of mostly of
Syrian Kurds, many of them women, but also includes Arabs and foreigners like Damian from France.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE (through translator): First of all, I came to fight ISIS because they are a common enemy. This is an enemy that we also have in
PLEITGEN: Manbij is a strategic logistics hub for ISIS. It lies halfway between the Turkish border and the extremists' self-declared capital,
Raqqah. Taking it means choking off much of the group's supply of weapons and fighters.
The U.S. is providing aerial support for the SDF fighters strikes that have made a major difference on the battlefield. But there are reports of more
than a hundred civilian casualties. The U.S. military is investigating the death.
And even with American air power, the going has been tough. ISIS bobby trapped much of Manbij. Some of its bomb making factories later
UNIDENTIFIED MALE (through translator): Mostly they used hand-made mines. Because we have surrounded them, they had no manufactured materials left.
They had nothing left. They even used tea pots to make mines. This is a belt for explosive materials. They fasten the belt, filled with
explosives, to themselves.
PLEITGEN: The SDF fighters had to battle snipers and determined ISIS foot soldiers. ISIS released this video showing its militants on the front
lines, using suicide truck bombs to try and halt the advancing U.S.-backed force. The U.S. has called Manbij, quote, "a fight like we haven't seen
before." Many of the civilians are simply happy to have escaped with their lives.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE (through translator): We were afraid of ISIS, but today we are free. When we were in Manbij, there were four snipers above
our house. When we tried to flee, the snipers try to shot at us. Their bullets came down like rain. ISIS didn't allow us to leave. If they
capture and see us, they will kill us.
PLEITGEN: Some of the women saved from ISIS's grasp, burned the Abayas they were forced to wear in celebration. But while these civilians rejoice
for now, the SDF will have to fight many more tough battles before ISIS is destroyed. Fred Pleitgen, CNN, Berlin.
JONES: Still to come, in decades on the thrown, Japan's emperor has spoken on TV only once before. But now he's addressing his people for a second
time. What it means for him and Japan ahead.
Also Donald Trump has had his turn and soon Hillary Clinton will get hers. We're expecting Clinton's response to Trump's attack on her economic policy
any time now. Live pictures from Florida. All that and more when THE WORLD RIGHT NOW returns.
HANNAH VAUGHAN JONES, CNN INTERNATIONAL GUEST ANCHOR: Donald Trump says his America first economic plan will open a new chapter in prosperity. The
Republican presidential nominee unveiled that plan today in Detroit. It calls for tax reductions, trade agreement overhauls, and a moratorium on
new government regulations.
The Pakistan Taliban has claimed responsibility for a suicide bombing in Quetta that left at least 70 people dead and more than a hundred wounded.
Many of the victims were believed to be journalists and lawyers gathered at a hospital after a killing of a prominent lawyer.
Japan's 82-year-old emperor, Akihito, seemed to hint he would like to step down when he delivered an incredibly rare televised address to his nation.
The emperor touched on his age and health and how they're making him think more about the future. CNN's Will Ripley has all the details on this from
WILL RIPLEY, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Japanese emperor, Akihito, speaks on television for the second time ever, rare
enough to stop people in their tracks, even in Tokyo, a city full of distractions.
Akihito spoke not as the 125th emperor of the ancient Chrysanthemum throne, he spoke as an 82-year-old man, growing tired after cancer and heart
"I'm worried that it might become difficult for me to carry out my duties as a symbol of the state with my whole being as I've done until now," he
Akihito can't actually say he wants to abdicate. Japan's post-war constitution says the emperor's once-absolute power is purely ceremonial
and he must not influence the law. The law says he serves until he dies.
Many who watched the speech said, let the emperor retire. I strongly support his intention to step down. The law needs to be changed. If he
thinks it's too much for him, he should hand over his duties like a company CEO," this man says.
"I understand he's getting old. It must be hard for him to perform his public duties," he says.
(on camera): Within minutes of the speech, sympathy for the much loved emperor started sweeping across Japanese social media. People calling for
the government to change the law. Let him rest.
Prime Minister Shinzo Abe was quick to response. "I think we must give thought to the strain on the emperor and thoroughly consider what we can
do," Abe said.
Akihito's eldest son, crowned prince, Naruhito, is next line, but changing succession law could reignite a contentious debate in parliament over
whether the crown prince's daughter should be allowed to ascend to power in the world's oldest hereditary monarchy.
JEFFREY KINGSTON, PROFESSOR, TEMPLE UNIVERSITY: It's a very big deal. I mean, the mass media is paying a great deal of attention to his talk and
really there is no legal provision for the emperor to abdicate.
RIPLEY: After taking the throne nearly 30 years ago, Akihito became known as the people's emperor and showed his compassion after Japan's devastating
earthquake, tsunami, and nuclear meltdown in 2011.
He sat on the floor, comforting the victims, something previous emperors would never have done. Now it seems that compassion is shared by many
Japanese, who feel it's time to let their aging emperor step down. Will Ripley, CNN, Tokyo.
JONES: Now we turn to U.S. politics. Donald Trump's Democratic rival will give her own major economic speech on Thursday. Hillary Clinton isn't
waiting until then to take on Trump's new plan.
Sparks could fly when Clinton, as you can see there she's already taken to the stage at this rally in Florida, we'll tune into that properly and see
if she has anything in particular to say about Donald Trump's comments.
One of her senior advisers has already told CNN that Clinton will offer a sharp rebuttal to Trump's speech that we heard earlier. We are monitoring
this for you as I said and her campaign has already laid down some of the ground work for what she might say on social media on Twitter.
The campaign claims that Trump's economic plan involves lower wages, fewer jobs, more debt, and tax breaks for the 0.1 percent of the population.
[15:35:01]While we monitor Hillary Clinton's speech in Florida, let's get some perspective from Alan Krueger, professor of Economics and Public
Affairs at Princeton University. He once served as chairman of the Council of Economic Advisers under President Obama and is now an informal adviser
to Hillary Clinton's campaign.
Alan, great to have you on the program. Thanks for joining us. If I can ask you to put your political hat aside for one second because we know that
you are informally advising Clinton. With your economic hat on, and listening to Donald Trump's words earlier in the speech, is it logical,
does it make sense?
ALAN KRUEGER, PROFESSOR OF ECONOMICS, PRINCETON UNIVERSITY: I think he's doubling down on the same policies that he's in an incoherent way been
proposing for a while. You don't have to listen to me. Listen to what economists who advise Republican presidential candidates have been saying.
Yesterday, Gregg Mankew, a professor of Economics at Harvard, who was chairman of the Council of Economic Advisers for President Bush said that
he couldn't support Donald Trump.
That his proposals on trade were dangerous for the world economy, would potentially cause a trade war, that his behavior has been erratic when it
comes to the economy. That's not the right temperament for the president of the United States when it comes to economic policy, let alone foreign
Mark Zandi, who was an economic adviser to John McCain when he ran for president, ran the numbers and he concluded that Mr. Trump's economic plan
would lead to a recession, would cause nearly 3.5 million people to lose their jobs, and would not help middle class workers.
The only people who would benefit are those who would benefit from the giant tax cuts he's been proposing, which are higher income folks.
JONES: I want to ask you actually about those tax cuts. There's these three tiers and in particular he plans to lower the top rate of tax. Is
that viable just in terms of where would the money come from to pay for that?
KRUEGER: Well, again, he's not giving enough details. But independent analysts who have looked at his tax proposals have concluded that they
could increase the deficit by $10 trillion. Add $10 trillion to the U.S. debt over ten years.
And he hasn't specified cuts that he would make other than to Planned Parenthood and to the Environmental Protection Agency. Today, he proposed
some additional spending.
So I don't see in his proposals anything close to fiscal responsibility. I think it would lead to vast increase in the U.S. debt and higher interest
rates down the road, which will be a higher cost for all Americans in the future.
JONES: And this is, of course, Donald Trump had in the past said he would try and wipe out the U.S. deficit in eight years. He stayed away from
mentioning that again today.
We are, of course, monitoring what Hillary Clinton may indeed say in Florida in the next few minutes or so. With your knowledge of her and her
campaign, what do you think she'll say in response to Donald Trump's speech from a few hours ago?
KRUEGER: Well, I think it's pretty clear he's been doubling down in the same failed policies that he's been suggesting in the past. And I think
there are many aspects of what he proposed in his speech today that she can highlight.
For example, his proposal for childcare expense deductions is a step in the right direction, but it's greatly inferior to the way that Secretary
Clinton has proposed to meet that same challenge, by providing subsidies to households so that childcare expenses don't exceed 10 percent of their
And by working on the supply side to make sure that childcare providers are sufficiently paid, that we have qualified childcare providers, and home
So I think the contrast couldn't be more stark. It's pretty easy to make the case, one could just point to analyses that conservative economists
have made about Mr. Trump's proposals.
JONES: Yes, one of the other things that he really focused on was this idea of America first, Americanism, not globalism. There will be many
voters out there no doubt who will think it's a good thing to not be, as Donald Trump himself said, paying for refugees around the world but instead
focusing on Americans themselves. Is it fair to say that America could indeed be great again if she were more insular?
KRUEGER: You know, that's another kind of bizarre part of his speech. He talked about wanting to go back to an America first policy, the way things
used to be, he claimed, and then he says he's the candidate of the future, of new ideas. I think this was an attempt by Mr. Trump to be divisive.
I think his proposals on immigration are a big step backwards. I think they would jeopardize the U.S. standing in the world, frankly, if we rip up
trade agreements, who's going to want to negotiate a deal in good faith with the U.S. if we don't honor our agreements in good faith?
Similar to his claim that he would just renegotiate the U.S. debt. Who's going to want to lend to the U.S. if we have a leader who take such
[15:40:07]JONES: As we look ahead to November now and that general election, how important is the economy stupid, if you like, in terms of how
people are generally going to vote?
KRUEGER: Well, I think the economy is an extremely important issue. We're making a lot of progress from the problems that we faced eight years ago
with the great recession and the financial crisis. But too many Americans have been left behind for far too long.
Those problems actually started before the great recession. Even though 15 million jobs have been added since the economy turned around under
President Obama, there's a lot more work to be done. And I think Americans are rightly focused on those issues.
JONES: Alan, we very much appreciate it. Alan Krueger there, live for us discussing the economics of these two candidates.
As we were saying earlier, we will be monitoring and are still monitoring Hillary Clinton's campaign. She is there in Florida at the moment
speaking. She hasn't as yet said anything in particular about Donald Trump and his economic policy ideas that he gave to us earlier on.
But we will stay across that and as soon as she mentions anything about Mr. Trump and his ideas, we'll bring that to you live.
Meantime, stay with us here on THE WORLD RIGHT NOW. Coming up, as the competition heats up in Rio, Brazil is under scrutiny after giving a lower
than normal amount of blood samples during testing. All the details, ahead.
JONES: Welcome back to THE WORLD RIGHT NOW. The decision to ban Russian paralympians from the Rio games is a, quote, "grave breach of human
rights," according to the head of Russia's Paralympic Committee.
The country was given a blanket ban on Sunday with the International Paralympic Committee president deriding Russia's medals over morals
Phillip Craven spoke to CNN about that decision.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
PHILIP CRAVEN, PRESIDENT, INTERNATIONAL PARALYMPIC COMMITTEE: The situation, as I said, is not about athletes cheating the system, but about
a state-run system that is cheating the athletes. I think if we look at that, we would have had nothing to consider if this didn't happen in
Russia. And I told that to our board when we first started our 5-1/2 hour long board meeting before the Russian delegation came in. I said, of
course you will feel under pressure, but if something hadn't happened in Russia, we would have had nothing to consider.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
JONES: Russia's doping scandal has of course dominated the headlines in the run-up to these Rio games. But now the number of drug test samples
from Brazil's own team is coming into question. Nick Paton Walsh reports.
NICK PATON WALSH, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Drugs in sport, a plague. Russian paralympians banned. Many other Russian
athletes as well. One Kenyan official sent home. What next?
[15:45:03]Well, CNN can reveal the record of the host team, Brazil, is now under renewed criticism as they gave only about a third as many samples to
their own anti-doping agency as would be normal in the crucial month leading up to the games.
Brazil's Ministry of Sport has told CNN they gave 110 samples between the first and 24th of July. Normally they admitted they would give about 300
for their team of 477 looks at athletes, the second biggest of the games.
They said they had problems because this laboratory, the only one in Brazil accredited by the World Anti-Doping watchdog to test Olympic samples, was
closed down for a month in late June because anti-doping officials said it wasn't performing well enough.
While Brazilian officials admit this means testing slowed, even stopped for a bit, it is now apparent they also stopped collecting samples from their
athletes at the level they normally would.
That could leave a permanent hole in their record of what anti-doping officials have called, quote, "the most crucial period," that just before
(on camera): Doping has overshadowed these Olympics, strange as that sounds in a stunning setting like this. What's key is this is the home
team, the host. They want to avoid scandal at all costs. It is remarkable that in the crucial month before this city opened its arms to the athletes,
Brazilian officials seemed to have allowed their doping testing program to have slipped this much.
(voice-over): Brazil's Ministry of Sport denies any wrongdoing and says the reduction in samples collected was partly because the laboratory wasn't
able to process them and had its accreditation suspended.
A spokesman blamed the doping watchdog for closing the laboratory and said Brazil is doing, quote, "a very good job against doping."
JONES: Well, Nick Paton Walsh joins me now live from Rio. Nick, good to speak to you. It's hard to believe isn't it that the host team is now
embroiled in this doping scandal as well. But nevertheless what kind of punishment or sanctions could the Brazilians face?
WALSH: Well, possibly none at all. In fact so far, because of the delay in testing, which has already been publicized by WADA before our report,
the sanctions they received is referred to the Compliance Review Committee of WADA, which doesn't at this stage have any practical implication upon
The point here in its most basic sense is everybody seems to understand that when the one laboratory here in Brazil was closed, effectively, and
its accreditation suspended, that would have slowed down the speed at which tests were done or even stopped it briefly.
They weren't able to find a substitute laboratory anywhere in the world. The key question was why were samples still not taken? Because in layman's
terms, you could simply collect them, put them in the refrigerator, and then process them later on, to make sure there was not a hole in the team's
doping record. That was not done.
It was not done to the scale of about two-thirds of the samples that should have been taken. That's the enduring question. The Brazilian Ministry of
Sport don't really seem to have an answer as to why those samples weren't taken.
They say it was because the laboratory was closed, but still it doesn't tackle the storage issue couldn't they have just stored the samples and
it's left a big question mark here for a host nation frankly that have way too many problems before the games even started to start thinking about
this -- Hannah.
JONES: Nick, we have to leave it there. We're going to take our viewers live to Hillary Clinton in Florida. She's speaking about Donald Trump.
Let's listen in.
HILLARY CLINTON (D), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: Now, he compared it with what I have proposed and he said in comparison, my plans would create at least
10 million jobs in the first four years for the economy.
So if we take just -- if we just take Florida and compare it, right here in Florida, Florida would gain 650,000 jobs under my plans, lose more than
200,000 jobs under Trump's, a difference of 850,000 Florida jobs.
Now, I just think we've got to look at this in a very clear way. They are just playing the same old siren song and why they haven't learned, we are
not interested in economic plans that only help the top 1 percent. It's time we helped everybody else in America get ahead and stay ahead.
So, you know, it's clear, and a lot of the journalists have written this, Trump is scrambling to do damage control. That's why he listed those dozen
new economic advisers, three Wall Street money managers, an oil baron, a former chief economist from one of the banks at the heart of the financial
But this is from a guy who has said he knows more than the generals about ISIS. So he's not only putting our national security at risk, now he's
putting our economy at risk.
[15:50:07]So I've got to tell you, people, this is going to be a very important next three months. We've got work to do. November 8th. Three
months. Three months from today and don't be fooled.
There is no other Donald Trump. What you see is what you get. He is still the same Donald Trump who makes his shirts and his ties overseas instead of
in the United States. He is the same Donald Trump who refuses to pay his bills for small businesses and working people.
And in fact, he is the same person who can be provoked by a tweet and who takes apparent --
JONES: Hillary Clinton there in Florida. She promised a sharp rebuttal. So it seemed she is indeed giving that to what Donald Trump has said
earlier. She is talking jobs and she says Donald Trump is putting our national interests and now our economy at risk as well.
Trump had earlier, of course, called for tax reductions, overhauling trade agreements, and a moratorium on all new government regulations as well.
That's Hillary Clinton live in Florida.
Still to come on THE WORLD RIGHT NOW, we turn to Amazon and its latest attempt to make online shopping easier. This time focusing on your
kitchen. We'll tell you more after the break.
JONES: Welcome back. The world's largest bricks and mortar store is trying to be more digital-savvy. Walmart has agreed to buy jet.com for
more than $3 billion, but it's playing catch-up with Amazon. That online retail giant just posted sales of more than $100 billion. Now, as Samuel
Burke shows us, it's making online shopping even easier.
SAMUEL BURKE, CNN MONEY BUSINESS AND TECHNOLOGY CORRESPONDENT: I think I'm going to have to buy more milk. Amazon wants to have its tentacles in many
different parts of our lives. Right now they're focused on your home, specifically your kitchen with its latest device, the Amazon Dash scanner.
Let's say you run out of milk. All you have to do is scan the bar code or just say "milk." With the Dash they are keeping a list of everything you
say or scan, and when you check out on the Amazon website or apps, you can actually buy these goods and have them delivered to your door with the
service Amazon Fresh.
So what makes Amazon think they can have any success with hardware after their flop with the Amazon Fire phone? Do you have one? Most people
don't. Amazon found a sleeper hit in this device, the Amazon Echo, a speaker which goes in your home and allows you to speak to it.
Alexa, play Drake. Even though these two products don't actually use the same technology, Amazon keyed into the possibility that in a society which
moves so fast, we may not take the time to write or even type what we need, but we may scan or say what we need, and that could make more money for
JONES: Let's get more on this now. Samuel Burke is here with me in the studio in London. Just a few courses ago it was, Amazon weren't doing that
well. Now it's all turned around. How did all happened?
[15:55:06]BURKE: It was all doom and gloom. I was sitting at this table not long ago, we are wondering if Amazon could ever turn a profit.
Investors were very upset, getting very skittish.
But now if you look, they've really delivered results in so many different categories. I think that's why people are so happy with them right now on
They're doing well in e-commerce, in Cloud computing, in delivery service, which is really at the heart of this product, and they're doing well in
devices. Not every devices has done incredibly well, but you're seeing some real sleeper success in a lot of them.
JONES: Yes, you just been showing that scanner you showed in your report as well, how though is Amazon going to take on the likes of Apple when it
comes to this hardware?
BURKE: Well, to be quite frank, they've actually tried and failed. The Amazon Fire phone, do you remember that?
JONES: Yes, sort of.
BURKE: Yes, sort of. Most people only sort of because it hasn't done very well at all. But the truth is for Amazon, it's not about how many devices
they sell, the way that Apple does. For them it's about getting you to use this device, to use Amazon Fresh, their delivery service. For them it's
all about trying to get you into Amazon Prime or one of their other services. And that is how they make their money.
JONES: A different way of shopping altogether.
BURKE: Yes, a totally different approach.
JONES: We also have to mention this Walmart deal as well. Potentially a big threat to Amazon down the line?
BURKE: Definitely. I think that Jet wasn't doing that well against Amazon and so they saw a need to sell. At the same time, Walmart isn't doing that
well against Amazon so combined forces here.
The real secret in this deal is the fact that the guy who created jet.com also made diapers.com, and that sold to Amazon for a big chunk of money.
So he knows a lot about what's happening in these online retailers. Maybe an old school player with a new school player could have more of a chance
against the people creating these devices.
JONES: OK, Samuel, thanks very much for bringing in all the devices and telling us what's hot and what's not.
BURKE: I want to scan another one of you.
JONES: I'm not sure I have bar codes attached to me right now.
Thank you very much as well for watching the program. This has been THE WORLD RIGHT NOW. I'm back all week for Hala Gorani. Meantime, "QUEST
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