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Donald Trump on Immigration Debate, Ryan Lochte's Alleged Robbery Debacle, Explained; More Than 50 Killed At Turkish Wedding, ISIS Blamed; U.S. Commander To Russia, Syria: "We Will Defend Ourselves"; Tens Of Thousands Cleaning Up Devastated Homes; Obama Will Visit Flood Zone On Tuesday; Pregnant Doctor Takes Precautions Amid Zika Outbreak. Aired 2-3p ET

Aired August 21, 2016 - 14:00   ET

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[14:00:23] MARTIN SAVIDGE, CNN ANCHOR: Hey everybody, thanks for joining me. I'm Martin Savidge in for Fredricka Whitfield. It is good to be with you. Just days before Donald Trump is set to give a major speech on immigration, his campaign is hinting that he stands on forcefully removing millions of undocumented immigrants may be softening. This morning on "STATE OF THE UNION", his brand new campaign manager, Kellyanne Conway said that Trump's support of forced deportation is, "to be determined."

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DANA BASH, CNN ANCHORN: Kellyanne, let me just get some clarity since you were at this meeting. Does Donald Trump still support setting up the deportation force and removing 11 million or estimated 11 million undocumented immigrants from America? Yes or no?

KELLYANNE CONWAY, TRUMP CAMPAIGN MANAGER: So what Donald Trump said yesterday in that meeting differed very little from what he had said publicly, Dana, including in his convention speech last month in Cleveland. It's that we need a, "fair, humane way," of dealing with what is estimated to be about 11 million illegal immigrants in this country. That was part of the discussion. It was a very robust discussion. I've seen him very animated in meetings like this where he is learning, he's taking notes, he's asking questions, he's receiving information. And the rest of the conversation frankly was about job creation, economic revitalization, the fact that small business growth among Hispanic and Latino Americans is on the rise. We talked about the inability to get access to capital. For many of them we talked about homeownership has being very important, religion and family being very important to Hispanics. It was a very long, very far-reaching conversation but nothing was said yesterday that differs from what Mr. Trump had said previously.

BASH: Well, let me play something when a said in November.

DONALD TRUMP, REPUBLICAN PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: I'm going to have a deportation force and you're going to do it humanely, inexpensively.

MIKA BRZEZINSKI, MSNBC HOST: Are they going to get ripped out of their homes? How?

TRUMP: They're going back where they came. If they came from a certain country, they're going to be brought back to that country. That's the way it's supposed to be.

BASH: So, does Donald Trump still support that? A deportation force removing the 11 million or so undocumented immigrants?

CONWAY: What he supports, and if you go back to his convention speech a month ago, Dana, is to make sure that we enforce the law that we are respectful of those Americans who are looking for well-paying jobs and that we are fair and humane for those who live among us in this country. And as the weeks unfold -- as weeks unfold, he will lay out the specifics of that plan that he would implement as president of the United States.

BASH: Will that plan include a deportation force, the kind that he just -- you just heard in that sound bite and that he talked about during the republican primaries?

CONWAY: To be determined.

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SAVIDGE: TBD. That would be a sharp contrast from one of Trump's central themes of a pretty hard line position on illegal immigration. And just yesterday held a closed-door meeting with a Hispanic advisory council and he talked about a humane and efficient way to work with undocumented immigrants. For more on this, I'm joined by republican strategist and Trump's supporter Kevin Paul Scott. And also I believe -- we have joining us, I wasn't quite sure, is journalist and activist and Hillary Clinton's supporter, Krystal Ball. So thank you both for being with us. Let me clarify, we say Trump's supporter. You want to sort of add an addendum to that?

KEVIN PAUL SCOTT, REPUBLICAN STRATEGIST: Well, when it comes to Trump versus Hillary Clinton, I'm going to support the nominee, but I'm not going to support everything he's doing throughout the process and I think we're seeing some examples right now him trying to pivot away from a really tough few weeks, because he's kind of and shooting from the hip and having campaign troubles. And it's not a campaign that's really easy to support right now.

SAVIDGE: Well, let me nail you down on this immigration issue and whether or not Trump is truly changing, because they hear talks that he may be behind on closed doors. That would be worrisome to some of his hardest core supporters.

COTT: Yes. I mean, there's a lot of things that are worrisome when it comes to is he really going to support exactly what he said or is he kind of putting on a show for a public and primary voters that he's going to be willing to shift in the general election and even more scary is he going to shift if he were to actually be elected. And so --

SAVIDGE: So, what's he doing with immigration? SCOTT: Well, I think on immigration what he's trying to do is take a different tone and when it comes to deportation, the thing that Trump has really been committed to is this "wall". We haven't heard a lot about it lately, but is he still going to build the wall? I think that's what a lot of his hardcore supporters are looking for. Is it on the things that they see as major issues? Is he going to do that? And then, is he going to shift on some other things? Now that being said, how he outreaches, how he coordinates his outreach to this group would be interesting, because his outreach to African-Americans, a little bit tough last week.

SAVIDGE: It was. Krystal Ball, let me bring you into this conversation.

KRYSTAL BALL, JOURNALIST: Yes.

SAVIDGE: What would a shift like this be? I mean, if Donald Trump is somehow changing, what had been one of the solid pillars of his campaign? How would this impact Hillary Clinton?

BALL: Well, obviously I think he has realized that he cannot win the way that he's going. And in particular one thing I wanted to note here is I think that the outreach to African-Americans, the outreach to Latinos is not really about winning over significant numbers of those groups because the damage there is already done. I don't think Donald Trump is going to get much more with African-Americans than the 2% he is registering in polls right now. What it is aimed at though and I think he -- you see the fingerprint of Kellyanne Conway here, is that winning over the republican women who have left him because they're uncomfortable with this incredibly nativist white nationalist really in some cases, rhetoric and policy position that they see coming out of the campaign. They can't associate themselves with a candidate who feels to them blatantly racist and heartless and tone- deaf the way that he has. So I think a lot of this outreach actually had to do with winning a number of republican women and that's how it affects Hillary Clinton. She has done a lot to try to make sure that she's speaking to those moderate republicans that are uncomfortable with Donald Trump and saying, look, you know, you may not agree with me on everything but you can trust me as a good steward of the government. And this other guy is unhinged, he doesn't have the temperament to be president and doesn't have the sort of character that you would want to see in a commander-in-chief. So that's where I think that this is all really going.

SAVIDGE: Okay. So this is got to be interesting. This is supposedly then a conversation not necessarily being directed at those who may have a strong concern about immigration but those uncomfortable with Donald Trump on other issues. You buy that?

SCOTT: Well there is no doubt that Hillary is trying to expand the playing field. It's why -- you know, when you're looking at Donald Trump's ad buy last week, it was in -- it doesn't include Virginia. That's kind of scary for republicans when they need to be

competing in these places. And so I do buy a little bit of the argument that he's trying to win back some of the base but I don't think he's going to stop there. He is -- when he talks about African-Americans or Hispanics, he is going to try to make a

legitimate run because he's going to need to eat into those margins at least a little bit to have any shot at being competitive this fall. So I think he's trying to bring back his base, but he's going to try to expand the playing field beyond that.

SAVIDGE: Krystal, I want to break up another subject. Conway reiterated that Trump is not going to release his tax returns, even though that she herself has called on him to do so in past, and take a listen to this.

BALL: Right.

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Back in April you said on CNN That you want Trump to be transparent. Let's listen.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Let me ask you about this alliance between you first, Kellyanne, between John Kasich and Ted Cruz, this alliance shall we say, that Donald Trump is calling collusion, is this fair game? Are they playing by the rules here?

CONWAY: Of course it's fair game. Oh, absolutely. It's completely transparent. Donald Trump's taxes aren't. I'd like to see those be transparent.

NIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Now you're in charge of Donald Trump's campaign. Given that, given how you feel, are we going to see Donald Trump's tax returns soon?

CONWAY: So now that I'm on the inside, I know something I didn't know then which is he's under audit and what that means and he has said very clearly and I back him up completely that when the audit is completed, he will release the tax returns.

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SAVIDGE: I got to say, that answer floored me, because every time Donald Trump has said he's not going to release, it is because he said he's under audit. This is her saying, oh, I didn't know that. Did that shock you or surprise you as much as it -- others?

BALL: I mean, I think -- I think it's the best answer she can give at this point. It's a very tough position to be in when you as the campaign manager have called on the candidate to release the tax returns and also said other things like that he built a big part of his business on the backs of the little people, essentially. So, I think it's a very tough position she's in. And look, I just want to underscore here, with Hillary Clinton, love her, hate her, feel indifferent about her, we have a long record of public service we can look at. We do have, even though the Clinton Foundation ties are shady and problematic, we have a public record there of who's the donors or we can look at. We don't have any of that with Donald trump. He's really built his whole campaign and his credibility on his reputation as a businessman. So if we can't see how that has unfolded, if we can't see into his tax returns and know what kind of ties he has that might influence him when he's president of the United States, if that were ever to happen, you know, it's an even bigger deal than it

would ordinarily be for a presidential candidate. And I always think it's an important thing.

SAVIDGE: All right. Let me hold you there. And Kevin, let me have you respond. Because this tax issue keeps coming back. Why not just release them? Audit or no. Others have released under an audit condition, he could.

SCOTT: I think there's a couple things here. One, he's using that as an excuse. Number two, there's obviously a reason he doesn't want to release them. The third piece is, is that going to be the central piece of this campaign? I really don't think so. And the fact that Conway said some things that are unfavorable about Donald Trump and now is coming back and having to walk those back. I mean, Barack Obama said a lot of things about Hillary Clinton when he's running against her. Bernie Sanders said a lot of things. That's the nature of the game. The tax return issue, they're going to hammer, it is not going to be the thing that's going to put him under. He's got a whole lot of other issues that may. I don't think the tax return will ultimately be the biggest thing.

SAVIDGE: All right. Maybe we'll see at the end of all of this. Kevin Paul Scott and Krystal Ball. Thank you both for joining us.

BALL: Thank you.

SCOTT: Thank you.

SAVIDGE: Still ahead, Ryan Lochte. He is "110%." That's way above just one hundred percent sorry about what he did in Rio. In an emotional interview, the Olympic swimmer tries to put this controversy to rest? We'll discuss that next.

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SAVIDGE: There are a lot of incredible achievements at this Summer Olympic Games, but this is not one. He claimed he was robbed at gunpoint. We're talking about Olympic swimmer Ryan Lochte. He's sitting down for an interview and some are liken it to a confessional. What he is admitting to is about what actually happened during that fateful night in Rio. Take a listen.

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MATT LAUER, NBC NEWS: How do you feel about the way you've handled yourself since Sunday morning, early Sunday morning, when this all went down?

RYAN LOCHTE, U.S. OLYMPIC SWIMMER: You know, since everything that's happened, I've kind of been laying low, just not -- I mean, I had those statements I've talked to you. But before I wanted to go out on camera, I wanted to really make sure those other guys came back on U.S. soil. And which I just found out that's why I'm doing this today, is Jimmy just came back. He was the last person to come back.

LAUER: Let me play devil's advocate there for a second because had you come out and set the record straight earlier, Gunnar and jack may not have been pulled off that plane and Jimmy might not have had his passport impounded, so if you come forward and done an interview like this and told the real story earlier, couldn't you have taken away a lot of their problems?

LOCHTE: Oh, by all means and I think -- that's -- this is why I'm taking full responsibility for my actions. Because if I didn't over exaggerate the story to what I said when I did it when it first happened with Billy Bush and yourself and I told you the full story, none of this would happened. We wouldn't be here. We wouldn't be sitting here discussing this.

LAUER: So when you talk to Billy on Sunday afternoon, you didn't tell him the whole truth. When you spoke with me on Wednesday night by phone, you didn't tell me the whole truth.

LOCHTE: I left -- I left details out. And which that's why I'm in this mess, is I left certain things out and I over exaggerated on some parts of the story.

LAUER: One of the things you appeared to have embellished with Billy, when you talked to Billy, is you said at some point after you refused to sit down, the security guard put the gun to your forehead and cocked it. That didn't happen?

LOCHTE: That didn't happen. And that's why -- I over exaggerated that part.

LAUER: Why did you do that?

LOCHTE: I don't know why. You know, it was still hours after the incident happened. I was still intoxicated. I was still under the influence. And I'm not making me being intoxicated like an excuse, I'm not doing that at all. I mean, it was my fault. And I shouldn't have said that. I shouldn't even -- I'm not -- I'm not saying anything. But I over exaggerated that part and the gun was drawn but not at my forehead. It wasn't cocked at my forehead. It was towards my general direction. And as can you see in the surveillance, that's when my hands went up.

LAUER: You told me on the phone, Ryan, you said, we are victims here. We are victims. And we're happy that we're safe. And the police press conference, they said, they're not victims, they're vandals. How do you feel about that?

LOCHTE: It's how you want to -- how you want to make it look like. Whether you call it a robbery, whether you call it extortion or us paying just for the damages, like we don't know. All we know is that there was a gun pointed in our direction and we were demanded to give money.

LAUER: And that's a really interesting point. I want to take a little time on this. If I were to ask you the same question again right now and say were you robbed on Sunday morning in Rio, how would you answer?

LOCHTE: I'd be -- I can't answer that. Because I don't know if -- because I was intoxicate so I don't know. All I know is that there was a gun pointed at us and we had -- we were demanded to give money. Whether it was to pay for the damages of the poster, whiter it was extortion or whether it was a robbery, like I can't -- I can't -- I don't -- I'm not equipped to like tell you that.

LAUER: Except I want to point out that Gunnar in his statement the police said, at some point someone who spoke English walked over and offered to help translate this altercation. And he made it clear that this security guard was telling the four of you, you need to pay for that stuff, that damage, before you can leave here or I'm going to call the police. You understood that at that time, didn't you?

LOCHTE: Yes. So then we had to give the money.

LAUER: Right. So but at that point, it's not a robbery, at that point you're striking a deal. You're striking a deal to pay for what damage you've caused so that he doesn't called police. And this doesn't become a bigger incident, isn't that -- isn't that fair?

LOCHTE: We just wanted to get out of there. We are held -- I mean, there was a gun pointed in our direction. We were all frightened. And we wanted to get out of there as quick as possible and the only way we knew is this guy saying you have to give him money. So we gave money and we got out.

LAUER: That doesn't sound like a robbery. A robbery is when some guy targets you, whether he's armed or not, to take your money and your belongings and your valuables. This guy was negotiating a deal because of what had happened in that walkway and you guys were on the other end of that negotiation.

LOCHTE: And that's why it could be -- people can see it in many different directions. All we know is that there was a gun pointed to us and we were demanded to give them money. And end of story.

LAUER: I guess what I'm trying to get at is the first version of the story you've told Ryan was much more about the mean streets of Rio.

LOCHTE: Yes.

LAUER: And the version we're hearing now is much more about a negotiated settlement to cover up some dumb behavior.

LOCHTE: And that's why I'm taking full responsibility for it. Is because I over exaggerated that story and if I never did -- done that, we wouldn't be in this mess. Those guys would never be in Rio or were in Rio. Nothing of the -- none of this would have happened and it was my immature behavior of, you know, we just finished. We were wanting to celebrate. And we hadn't been drinking or anything like months before that. And I definitely had too much to drink that night and I was very intoxicated. And none of this would have happened if I didn't do that.

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SAVIDGE: All right. Let's talk about this. Joining me now Leigh Steinberg sports agent and sports attorney in Danny Cevallos, CNN legal analyst and criminal defense attorney. Leigh, six minutes plus of that interview, what did you get out of it?

LEIGH STEINBERG, SPORTS AGENT: I got out of it that he is still in the state of denial. For 42 years I've been representing athletes. Sometimes they go out and drink at night. Usually they don't kick down the door in a bathroom to get it open. Normally they don't vandalize it. And normally they know if they do that, they're going to have to pay for damages. Had he spoken up quickly, had they paid for that quickly, had they not chosen out the police to villainies as if they were robbed by police at gunpoint, this doesn't happen. He waited a week to do this, a week in which the achievements Olympians were clouded. We couldn't see 150 medal winners from the United States because it was all Lochte, Lochte, Lochte. And what he should have done is held a press conference, the minutes those words came out of his mouth, taken responsibility. There really wasn't a lot of legal liability. There are many cases where vandalism in Brazil ends up, as long as you make some restitution, not even being prosecuted.

SAVIDGE: Let me just stop you for a second, Leigh, because I want to bring in Danny. Danny, there was a gun and, you know, you spoke to this fact last week. And after the press conference with authorities, you seemed shocked that the cops had claimed that they were not robbed. So now you've heard this interview, what do you think? Is it extortion? Is it something else? What do you feel legally this is?

DANNY CEVALLOS, CRIMINAL DEFENSE ATTORNEY: It's odd to me because it seems for the first time in the last week everyone is astounded that the police either in Brazil or state side might take a position that it is completely opposite to somebody that might potentially be called a suspect. That happened every single day in every courthouse across the land. The police take a position that is directly opposite that of a defendant. And in this case, you know, I'm hardly an apologist for this kind of behavior exhibited by Lochte that he admits to. But at the same time, I would respectfully push back a little bit on Matt Lauer, though it was an outstanding interview. You know, Matt Lauer speaks of it being, this is a negotiation.

SAVIDGE: With a gun.

CEVALLOS: I had to tell you. Yes. There aren't a lot of negotiations that are carried on in the United States with one party brandishing a firearm. It raises an interesting legal question as to what exactly was being done with the gun. Was it at his hip? does it matter if it is out by his body or does it matter if it's pointed right at you? It's an interesting legal question but to some degree Ryan Lochte was telling the truth about having a gun pointed in his direction. Did he exaggerate? Yes. He is taking responsibility for that, probably a little too late. But again as criminal defense attorney, his advisers surely waited until he was absolutely certain that he would not be called extradited back to Brazil before he went on the apology tour in an effort to salvage his brand. SAVIDGE: Yes. You know, that part I already figured out. He wouldn't be saying when he said if it was going to be still be for the prosecution. Leigh, let me ask you this. What do you think the fall- out is going to be? Both, you know, for sponsors and disciplinary action? Is this going to really have a long-term impact on his career? Or is this just going to pass?

STEINBERG: Well, you see every time we get into this situations, the lawyers want to take a very strict position of sitting back, waiting for all the facts, doing the rest of it. Where from a marketing standpoint, the issue is brand. So this is a --

SAVIDGE: So what is the impact of the brand?

STEINBERG: The impact of the brand is devastating. Because for a whole week you've had news cycle after news cycle. Yesterday in New York, you have ugly American on the front of one of the tabloids and the other one is the Lochte monster. And it's gone on and on and on without any reaction and it brands him in a negative way. He's got a series of endorsements.

I think they're going to back away. The second thing is, resentment among the other Olympians competing because it's been drown out now that -- as to sanctions I would guess that they're going to slap him with a ban. The USOC certainly the swimming federation for some period of time. Look, he didn't -- he didn't commit murder and with the proper apology, we love to forgive and he could go on. The comeback follows the follow the high and mighty. But this has lingered for so long without an appropriate response. It's all been legalistic. It hasn't been the hundreds of millions of people watching these broadcast who think of him as a -- someone who has no regard for other people.

SAVIDGE: Right. It's definitely damaged the whole package. But most of all it's damaged the outlook on humans and athletes. Leigh Steinberg, thank you very much. Danny Cevallos. Thanks for your insights as well. I'm hoping we're not going to talk about this one too much more but we will see as things progress. Thank you both. Up next. In the most direct public warning today, the top U.S. commander, now vowing to defend U.S. special operations in Northern Syria, if more attacks ensue, we'll explain what it all means, next.

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[14:30:00] SAVIDGE: We are following breaking developments on two stories out of the Middle East. Overnight in Southern Turkey a horrific suicide bombing carried out by a child perhaps as young as 12 years old. Authorities say the attack killed more than 50 people at a wedding celebration. ISIS being blamed there.

And then we are also following a stern warning to Russia and Syria from a top American general. The new U.S. leader of troops in Iraq and Syria is vowing to defend American Special Forces if those two countries continue to attack in areas where those U.S. soldiers are located. CNN's Pentagon correspondent, Barbara Starr, spoke to the general who issued that warning and she joins us by telephone. But also with us from Turkey is CNN senior international correspondent, Ben Wedeman.

And Ben, let's start with you. What is the latest that we know about this horrific wedding attack?

BEN WEDEMAN, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: What we know, Martin, we were at the scene this morning is that it occurred just before 11:00. There are as many as 400 to 500 people attending a wedding party in this Kurdish working class neighborhood.

According to the Turkish president, the bomber was a boy between ages of 12 and 14. Turkish investigators on the scene have found pieces of the suicide vest. Now the president indicated that it wasn't clear whether he himself detonated this bomb or it was remotely detonated but what is clear is that this was a massacre.

At least 50 people killed. Many of them children and women. One child young as 3 months old. Turkish authorities pointing the fingers in the direction of ISIS bears all of the hallmarks of an ISIS operation.

This city (inaudible) is only 25 miles north of the Syrian border and it's known that there are ISIS cells operating in this city -- Martin.

SAVIDGE: Ben Wedeman, thank you for that update. Now let's bring in Barbara Starr. Let's get you reporting on the conversation that you have with Lt. General Townsend. Let me begin, Barbara, by asking, what is it that prompted his warning?

BARBARA STARR, CNN PENTAGON CORRESPONDENT (via telephone): Well, Martin, it is very interesting. General Townsend just took over today, took command in Baghdad of all coalition forces. As he takes commands, he is taking this very, what the Pentagon calls, unusual situation.

A few days ago, it was Syrian warplanes that attacked an area in Northern Syria where U.S. special operations forces were working with local Kurdish fighters. By all accounts Syrians moved in to attack Kurdish allies but the U.S. but they got so close with their bombs and artillery, took U.S. special operations that some U.S. troops had to be moved out of that area very quickly.

U.S. air patrols are being stepped up. When I talked to General Townsend on the phone from Baghbad, he made it very clear that U.S. troops will be defended. How? He will defend them if they come under attack. Take a quick listen to what he had to say.

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LT. GENERAL STEPHEN TOWNSEND, COMMANDER OF U.S. FORCES IN IRAQ AND SYRIA (via telephone): We've informed the Russians who tell us they're informed the Syrians where we're at. And I just say that we will defend ourselves if we feel threatened.

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STARR: From a three-star general and the commander of the coalition that is no idle comment. Townsend is the first one to very publicly and bluntly say they are warning Russians who are firmly behind Syrians and warning Syrians to not do this again.

Not be in the position where U.S. troops might be threatened in Northern Syria. Townsend making it very clear, as you might expect, he has a very ambitious agenda against ISIS for next year that he commands. He is hoping to get ISIS out of both Raqqa and Mosul, major cities where they are entrenched -- Martin.

SAVIDGE: No question where the general stands on that. All right, Barbara Starr, thank you very much for that reporting.

Moving on to one of the news, 30,000 people and counting have been rescued now from their homes in Louisiana after the historic flooding left many regions of the state underwater. Up next, Louisiana governor talking about the national response.

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SAVIDGE: Hello, thanks for joining me. I'm Martin Savidge. In flood ravaged Louisiana, heartbroken residents are trying to salvage what they can from their homes as they brace for even more rain. At least 40,000 homes have now been damaged as folks try to clear out a sloppy soup of mud and debris.

CNN's Polo Sandoval is live in Baton Rouge. Polo, how are the residents coping and doing today?

POLO SANDOVAL, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Martin, that 40,000 number is slowly going up so do expect that number to change very quickly. In fact some estimates indicate that at least up to a hundred thousand homes could potentially have been damaged if not more and this is the reality for the people in Southern Louisiana.

Whatever they could not pull out of their homes and salvage as waters began to rise last weekend was damaged, destroyed. Now you will find these pockets in these neighbors where you are now seeing this large piles of debris that continue to grow.

These are not just people's sofas, or not just people's appliances, but also some memories. Irreplaceable things that unfortunately not be saved. What we are seeing is neighbors coming together.

This is perhaps the silver lining I have for you this afternoon as we continue to talk to people here on the ground is that there are people strangers coming together even doing drive-byes through neighborhoods with water, with food, and dropping off some of these things that are crucial because as we heard from Louisiana Governor John Bel Edwards earlier today on CNN, the need is great.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) GOVERNOR JOHN BEL EDWARDS (D), LOUISIANA: This is an unprecedented flood event and because it wasn't a hurricane or a tropical storm. This rain event didn't have a name. We have folks around the country that I think are just now realizing how significant it was.

So we really need help. Typically by this point in storm I would think Red Cross would be receiving a lot more donations. I think there would be more volunteers signing up.

Although we have some of that in place now, it would be helpful if people would donate to the Red Cross, to the Baton Rouge Foundation and to help people get back into their homes as quickly as possible.

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SANDOVAL: Volunteers, cleaning supplies, you name it, Martin. This is a community that badly needs all of that. I can tell that you people are anxious to share their story with the rest of the country, rest the world.

In fact many families allowed me into what is left of their homes to show me what it looks like. Homes gutted from the waist down as they try to me sure that the foundation is still good and some of those wooden studs are still good so they can rebuild and turn the houses into homes again.

[14:40:13]Because I can tell you, Martin, based on what I have seen the last several days and my colleagues have seen for over a week now, the need is great and also these people have a very long and very tough road to recovery ahead.

SAVIDGE: Right. And it is very expensive and still trying to find funding for that is a big question mark. Polo Sandoval, thank you very much.

President Obama has been taking some heat for not cutting his vacation short and touring the flood zone sooner, now he's planned to go in on Tuesday.

One of those critics has been Donald Trump who toured the area Friday and handed out supplies to victims. Louisiana Governor John Bel Edwards has said that Trump's visit was helpful, because it did help shine a light on how dire the situation is.

This morning on the "STATE OF THE UNION" Edward told Dana Bash he didn't want the president to visit the first few days of the disaster. Here is why.

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DANA BASH, CNN GUEST ANCHOR, "STATE OF THE UNION": I want to be clear. Did you ask the White House not to come down or did they want to come?

EDWARDS: I would never ask the White House not to do what president wants to do. BASH: Did the White House want to come down earlier?

EDWARDS: The White House asked me. In fact the president and Valerie Jarrett asked me when would be a good time for a visit. I asked them to let me get out of the response mode where we were still conducting search of houses and making rescues.

I didn't want to divert the police officers, sheriff deputies and state troopers and other essential resources and assets to provide security for the president while they were needed in this region to undergo or to undertake those response activities.

I asked that if he could wait until the response was over and we were in the recovery phase, which I predicted we would do over the weekend and certainly next week would be a better time for us to visit. But the president is welcome to come to our state any time that he wants to.

BASH: Former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani released a statement harshly criticizing you this week. He said the Democratic governor's criticism of Mr. Trump's visit to Louisiana is an outrage and completely inconsistent with their criticism of President Bush's decision to not go to New Orleans immediately after Hurricane Katrina. Is there a double standard here?

EDWARDS: No. And I'll tell you, I believe that Mayor Giuliani got it wrong, perhaps for the same reason you did. I have not been critical of Mr. Trump's visit. I don't want to be tied up into the politician of whether it is the president, Hillary Clinton or Donald Trump.

I tried not to comment and the comments that I have made have been very reserved and so I think he was off base there with that comment. As for when the president visits, I think I just went over that.

He is welcome to visit when he wants to. But because we were undergoing the response here in the capitol region, I asked that they consider coming next week, which ultimately is what he is going to do.

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SAVIDGE: And as you just heard, the president will be there on Tuesday. We will be following all of that.

Coming up, concerns arising now for pregnant women in South Florida after local transmissions of Zika are confirmed in Miami Beach. How one mother is drastically changing her daily routine to try to stay safe.

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SAVIDGE: Warning for pregnant women and their partners, the CDC is saying stay away from parts of Florida's Miami-Dade County. The advisory comes after five new cases of the Zika virus were traced to a 1.5 square mile stretch of Miami Beach. Staying away is good advice unless you live there.

CNN's Elizabeth Cohen spoke to one expectant mother who is taking that warning very seriously and she rarely now leaves her home.

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ELIZABETH COHEN, CNN SENIOR MEDICAL CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Carla Maguire helps her mother-in-law get her son's stroller out the door. And that's it. McGuire stays behind while grandmother gets to play with little Rafael.

(on camera): Mommy is at home and you're here.

(voice-over): That's because Rafael's mother is pregnant in Miami where Zika is spreading.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I don't want to be outside unnecessarily.

COHEN: And she knows what she is talking about.

(on camera): You're not just any other concerned pregnant lady.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yes. I'm an ob-gyn as well.

COHEN (voice-over): She's an obstetrician, assistant professor at the University of Miami. Dr. Maguire is doing everything she can to protect Rafael's future little brother.

(on camera): We got to go out with Rafael and his grandma. You had to stay home. Is that hard?

DR. KARLA MAGUIRE, OBSTETRICIAN: It is tough. Because one of the things I like doing with him, since he is so energetic, is playing outside. So being inside and kind of entertaining myself inside is sad, but I'll get through it.

COHEN (voice-over): She knows one mosquito bite could potentially give her baby microcephaly, a devastating birth defect.

(on camera): When things go wrong with Zika, they go really wrong.

MAGUIRE: I think that's what people are most afraid of especially my pregnant babies. It can be pretty devastating.

COHEN (voice-over): Dr. Maguire hardly leaves the house except to go to work. And when she does, she is slathered in bug spray.

(on camera): So you've got, one, two, three, four bottles of bug spray.

MAGUIRE: And one in each bag I carry. I'm prepared at all times.

COHEN (voice-over): Her baby is due in February and until then fun with her son means staying indoors.

MAGUIRE: It is hard and I have a pretty long way to go in pregnancy. I'm trying to take it one day at a time. One, two, three, four, five.

COHEN: And that's what she tells her patients. One day at a time as Zika spreads in Miami. Elizabeth Cohen, CNN, Surf Side, Florida.

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SAVIDGE: Up next, a controversy in Rio and it is one you may not be familiar with. Not Ryan Lochte. Why nine Australian athletes were fined more than $3,000 each and they may not be able to return home as soon as they would like. We will explain all of this after the break.

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SAVIDGE: Checking top stories, nine Olympic Australian athletes being forced to pay $3,000 each in fines before authorities will let them leave the country. They are accused of using false documents to get into an Olympic basketball arena. The athletes may not get their passports back in time to make their scheduled flight home tomorrow.

In Alabama, a 4-month-old boy is among the survivors of a mass killing that left five people dead including a pregnant woman. Police say it all started when a man went to the home where his estranged girlfriend and her child were staying. The 27-year-old suspect allegedly committed the murders, and then abducted the girlfriend and her child. Once she was able to call police and report the crime he turned himself in.

Lou Pearlman, the disgraced star maker behind the 1990's Boys band Nsync and the Backstreet Boys has died in prison. The 62-year-old producer has been serving a 25-year sentence for fraud and swindling investors out of $300 million. The cause of death has not been announced.

A wanted murderer on the run tonight. John Walsh is asking for your help to track down Jorge Landross, the chief suspect in the murder of Sue Markham.

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JOHN WALSH, CNN HOST, "THE HUNT": It is always about the money. You know how cops say follow the money trail. You know, it sounds too simplistic.

[14:55:05]But he was after that money and he did get a hold of that money. She started an account with his name on it. He wasn't even good at it. He was a good con man but a lousy day trader and he started to lose massive amounts of money that I figure must have taken her years to save.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We did access a Gmail account that Sue had. In the e-mails we could see that whatever relationship she had with Jorge was rapidly disintegrating in 2010 and certainly before. It seemed that she would try to learn information about what was going on with her investment and other aspects of their lives. He would not respond in a timely manner or his responses would be short and curt and clearly not satisfactory.

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SAVIDGE: Don't miss CNN's "THE HUNT" with John Walsh at 9:00 Eastern Time and Pacific only on CNN.

Meanwhile, there is much more ahead in the NEWSROOM right after this.

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SAVIDGE: Hello, everyone. Thanks for joining me. I'm Martin Savidge in for Fredricka Whitfield.

Ryan Lochte speaking out for the first time about that fateful night out in Rio and going for gold in the 100 meter mea culpa.