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[08:00:13] KRISTIE LU STOUT, HOST: And I'm Kristie Lu Stout in Hong Kong. And welcome to News Stream.
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DONALD TRUMP, REPUBLICAN PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: Zero tolerance for criminal aliens. Zero. Zero.
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LU STOUT: Battle lines drawn: Donald Trump doubles down on his hard line immigration
policies just hours after he showed a softer side in a news conference with Mexico's president.
Fiery riots in Brazil as Dilma Rousseff is removed from office.
And catastrophic decline: a new study shows elephants are being wiped out in alarming numbers. We'll tell you how China can help to save them.
Donald Trump has laid out an aggressive policy that has drawn criticism at home and abroad.
Now some elements of his plan have raised the ire of neighboring Mexico where Trump met with the president on a surprise visit on
Wednesday.
Sunlen Serfaty has more on Trump's tough proposals.
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TRUMP: There will be no amnesty.
SUNLEN SERFATY, CNN CORRSEPONDENT (voice-over): Donald Trump recommitting to a fired-up no- mercy stance on illegal immigration.
TRUMP: For those here illegally today who are seeking legal status, they will have one route and one route only: to return home and apply for
re-entry like everybody else under the rules of the new legal immigration system.
SERFATY: The billionaire vowing to swiftly expel millions who have overstayed their visas and undocumented criminals.
TRUMP: I am going to create a new special deportation task force, focused on identifying and quickly removing the most dangerous criminal
illegal immigrants in America who have evaded justice, just like Hillary Clinton has evaded justice, OK? Maybe they'll be able to deport her.
SERFATY: Insisting he will detain and remove anyone caught crossing the border.
TRUMP: We are going to end catch and release.
SERFATY: And force other countries to take back their citizens who have been ordered to leave the U.S.
TRUMP: There are at least 23 countries that refuse to take their people back after they've been ordered to leave the United States. Not
going to happen with me, folks. Not going to happen with me.
SERFATY: And declaring he will block funding from the 300-plus so- called sanctuary cities across the country.
TRUMP: Cities that refuse to cooperate with federal authorities will not receive taxpayer dollars.
SERFATY: But Trump is not saying how he would deport all undocumented immigrants living in the U.S.
TRUMP: Only the out-of-touch media elites think the biggest problem facing America is that there are 11 million illegal immigrants who don't
have legal status.
SERFATY: As for anyone who wants to live and work here...
TRUMP: To choose immigrants based on merit. Merit, skill, and proficiency.
SERFATY: Trump says they will be up against extreme vetting.
TRUMP: We are going to suspend the issuance of visas to any place where adequate screening cannot occur.
Another reform involves new screening tests for all applicants that include an ideological certification to make sure that those we are
admitting to our country share our values and love our people.
SERFATY: Trump also renewing his commitment to build a wall along the U.S. border with Mexico.
TRUMP: And Mexico will pay for the wall. Hundred percent. They don't know it yet, but they're going to pay for the wall.
SERFATY: Hours earlier, a more measured and softer tone on display as Trump met with Mexican President Enrique Pena Nieto.
TRUMP: We did discuss the wall. We didn't discuss payment of the wall.
SERFATY: But after Trump left the country, President Pena Nieto disputes that, tweeting, quote, "From the start of the conversation, I made
it clear: Mexico will not pay for that wall."
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LU STOUT: That was CNN's Sunlen Serfaty reporting there.
Now, President Pena Nieto said in an interview later on Wednesday that some of the positions Donald Trump has taken, quote, are a threat to
Mexico.
Let's get more reaction here. John Vause is in Mexico City. He joins me now. And John, you know, funny that it was back on U.S. soil that was
when Trump asserted again that Mexico is going to pay for the wall. How is Mexico reacting to that?
[08:05:13] JOHN VAUSE, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, you know, Kristie, that fiery speech that Donald Trump delivered last night in Phoenix,
Arizona, what some have said his most extreme position so far on immigration, simply confirms what they suspected all along, that his visit
here to Mexico City, that his diplomatic outreach to the Mexican president was nothing more than a PR stunt.
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VAUSE: Donald Trump following his meeting with Mexican President Enrique Pena Nieto his words and tone of his words remarkably different
from what he said over the past 15 months.
TRUMP: A strong, prosperous and vibrant Mexico is in the best interest of the United States and will keep and help keep for a long, long period of
time America together.
VAUSE: The announcement of Trump's surprise visit met with anger across Mexico and many took to one of Trump's favorite weapons -- Twitter.
From top Mexican politician Miguel Barbosa (ph) "You are not welcome in Mexico, get out"; to Mexico's former first lady Margarita Zavala, "We want
you to know you are not welcome. We Mexicans have dignity and we reject your hate speech."
Historian Enrique Krauze challenged Trump, "Apologize for calling us rapists and killers, guarantee that you won't build a wall or deport 11
million Mexicans."
Even months before announcing his candidacy, Trump previewed what would become the cornerstone of his campaign to a group of Texas donors.
TRUMP: Everything's coming across the border. The illegals, the cars - - all things. It's like a big mess. It's like vomit.
VAUSE: Following that the now familiar string of one-liners that has fuelled Trump's base while infuriating Hispanic voters.
TRUMP: They're bringing drugs. They're bringing crime. They're rapists.
We are going to build a great wall. The wall is going to be paid for by Mexico.
And who is going to pay for the wall?
VAUSE: Just two months ago, Mexico's president, Trump's host today slammed Trump with the most scathing of comparisons.
ENRIQUE PENA NIETO, PRESIDENT OF MEXICO (through translator): In the past some leaders addressed their societies in those terms. Hitler and
Mussolini did that. And the outcome scared (ph) everyone.
VAUSE: Trump's occasional attempt to connect with Hispanics like his Taco Bell post on Cinco de Maya often backfired. Angry protesters took to
the street and Trump became an object of ridicule. Trump Halloween masks flew off the shelves and Trump pinatas the subject of some serious
beatings.
But perhaps no one is more incensed at the prospect of a Trump presidency than former Mexican president, Vicente Fox.
VICENTE FOX, FORMER PRESIDENT OF MEXICO: Democracy cannot save us from crazy people that doesn't know what is going on in the world today.
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VAUSE: And, Kristie, those comments by the Mexican President Pena Nieto getting a lot of coverage in the morning newspapers, as you would
expect.
This is one paper. And the headline here "I'll build the wall, says Trump. He's a threat, says Pena."
And also this is another headline right here now. "Pena tells Trump we deserve respect." The other big headline, Mexicans are agreed."
It's interesting just how quickly the tone shifted.
When you think back, it wasn't even 24 hours ago, these \two men stood together at the
presidential palace side by side talking about how they were friends, there was deep respect and basically a mutual admiration for each other for about
15 minutes or so.
That quickly changed. We're now sort of back to how it was before Donald Trump arrived. I guess it took however long it takes to fly from
Mexico City to Phoenix for the relationship to go back to where it was -- Kristie.
LU STOUT: That's right. His tone certainly shifted as soon as he was back on U.S. soil.
Now, we know this visit was a test of his immigration policy, of his campaign, it's also a test of his presidential credentials. Hillary
Clinton has slammed this visit. This was his first foreign test as a presidential contender. And if so, how do you think he did?
VAUSE: Well, you know, the (inaudible) was pretty low to begin with. I mean, there did seem to be these expectation that providing Donald Trump
turned up, maybe didn't dribble or drop an "f" bomb or something. Of course, some kind of international scandal then it would be a huge success.
And you know, a lot of people had made the point that he stood there at n a podium next to the Mexican president. They said nice things about each
other. And then he left.
But there was that scandal -- he wasn't completely gaffe free. I mean, there is that scandal about, you know, did Donald Trump engage in a
discussion about who would pay for the wall? The Mexican president said he brought it up but Trump did not reply or respond to that. And so it wasn't
a discussion. I mean, that's a stretch at best.
So, you know, it wasn't entirely gaffe free for Donald Trump.
[08:10:03] LU STOUT: All right, John Vause reporting live from Mexico City for us, thank you, John.
Now, the Clinton camp has responded sharply following Trump's immigration speech and meeting in Mexico. Its national Latino vote
director issued this statement, which reads as follows: "in his darkest speech yet, Donald Trump doubled down on his anti-immigrant rhetoric and
attempted to divide communities by pitting people against each other and demonizing immigrants.
Meanwhile, a new Fox News poll shows Hillary Clinton's lead over Donald Trump evaporating in a four-way race she leads 41 percent to 39
percent. Now that is within the poll's margin of error.
Libertarian Gary Johnson pulls in 9 percent, and Green Party Candidate Jill Stein gets 4 percent.
Now, as far as Clinton and Trump go, this is a much narrower margin than most other surveys showed. This was conducted before Trump's
immigration policy speech.
Now, a little bit later in the program we will hear from Senator Tim Kaine, Hillary Clinton's running mate, about the state of the race and
Trump's tough rhetoric. So, do stay with us for that.
Now, the number of locally transmitted Zika cases in Singapore has risen again. It's risen up to 115. And officials warn it can go even
higher. Now, they are working on destroying mosquito breeding spots around the city. Earlier, I asked Doctor Peter Piot who co-discovered the Ebola
virus, on what Asia's response should be to stem this outbreak.
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DR. PETER PIOT: The fact is now that Zika is present in Asia, that every physician should really consider it people with the kind of flu-like
syndromes, dengue-like syndromes, even if they have not traveled to Latin America or the Caribbean, because it's present in Asia now.
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LU STOUT: Neighboring Malaysia just confirmed its first case of Zika. It's a woman who visited her daughter in Singapore two weeks ago.
ISIS could face more pressure from Australia on the battlefield. Now Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull says the government is overhauling its laws
to let the military take a fuller role in the coalition against ISIS. He says the country's legal code is more restrictive than international law.
Under proposed reforms, Australia would be allowed to target more members of ISIS like those who support the group financially or in other
ways.
Now, one Syrian town along the Turkish border is seeing relative calm after Turkey helped the Free Syrian Army liberate it from ISIS last week.
Jarablus was a key stopping point for ISIS recruits. Some, in fact, had their first formal encounter with the terror group there. It was also a
supply route for replenishing ISIS.
Now Nick Paton Walsh was the first western TV journalist to get inside the city. He is now back in Turkey in Gaziantep. And he joins us now with
details in what he saw inside Syria. And, Nick, what does Jarablus after ISIS look like now?
NICK PATON WALSH, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: From what we were allowed to see or saw vibrant to some degree, a lot of Syrian rebels in
there from seemingly moderate factions, the Turkish move has really done three things -- it is beginning, it seems, to get a control of the stretch
of the border that ISIS used to get foreign recruits and material in. That's key.
It's secondarily, also, causing a major problem for the United States, because much of this incursion, the ground work for it may end up angled
more directly at the Syrian Kurds who have been Washington's ground force against ISIS, too.
But the third time as well, it is causing there to be a swath of territory now hat is in control of Sunni, Syrian, Arab rebels., which is
something Washington has sought, frankly, for some time. It's something Turkey has wanted to see. And this is what it looked like.
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NICK PATON WALSH, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): We're headed inside yet another new chapter in Syria's endless war. Turkish
officials want us to see the Syrian-rebel control of the Syrian border town of Jarabulus, but their military-enabled. They kicked ISIS out of here a
week ago and we are the first western TV they let in.
ISIS had enough time here to remodel the town in their image, get into the minds of children, some of whom they try to recruit as soldiers.
"My neighbor blew himself up in a car," says this boy. Tamza (ph) says he's 13 and carries water for the rebels. He says some of his friends
became suicide bombers for ISIS.
"They tortured and beat people, everything here. It was just down there," he says. He shows us the square where ISIS gruesomely filmed their
murders.
(on-camera): It's a strange game for these children to play with newcomers. They're showing us exactly where it was that ISIS would display
the heads of those they decapitated in punishment. But yet again another Central Square in yet another town cleansed of ISIS' dark world.
Yet there is another key building here, the recruitment center where they found a torn-up ledger of names in the basement jail.
They are showing us further inside this building, which is the first point people who crossed in from Turkey to join ISIS would have sought to
register with the group.
(voice-over): No longer here can ISIS welcome outsiders of their twisted world. But other problems have risen as this men's fight isn't
simply against ISIS, but is also against America's allies against ISIS, the Syrian Kurds that Turkey considers terrorists.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE (through translator): We don't want to find all the Kurds, just the Syrian-Kurdish PKK. Just those who want to break up Syria.
WALSH: There is optimism here. Early signs of a new project Turkey has undertaken to flood this area with moderate, sympathetic rebels who will
then tackle the Kurds but also create a safe zone free of ISIS.
Only the second half of that is what Washington has wanted.
[08:15:56] (on camera): To some degree, this is what American policy has yearned for for years. Moderate Sunni-Arab rebels here have been
cleaning the town out of ISIS extremist, now controlling what many have thought a kind of buffer zone for Syrians fleeing the regime. Smiles, calm,
busy streets. We have seen them before in Syria's intractable war and watch them turn sour again.
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WALSH: Now, it's probably symptomatic of how troubled America's policy has always been in Syria that now they seem to be getting what
you've heard. The Pentagon say they want for such a long period of time and that is that it seems functional. Sunni-Syrian Arab force that appears
moderate, although obviously in this war everyone has done something to some degree they may not be that proud of.
But at the same time, this is supposed advantage for the Americans comes at a cost. That, as we spoke to some of those rebels there said
their next target, it's not just about the town of al-Bab where ISIS are, but also the town of Manbij where the Syrian Kurds are. The Syrian Kurds
have been the ground force fighting ISIS with American support. Such intense complexity, Kristie, even something that seems like a positive boon
for Washington's policy comes with a major problem as well.
LU STOUT: Yeah, evidence yet again of just how complicated the war has become.
And in your report, we see that smiles and calm have returned to Jarablus, but can the rebel fighters along with Turkey keep ISIS at bay and
hold on to the town?
WALSH: I think with the backing of the Turkish military, the second largest army in NATO with air power with quite substantial technology on
their side, they have a pretty good chance, really. ISIS now are very much on their back foot. And it's actually in that town of al-Bab where it
does appear, if you look at reports on state media, there are Turkish tanks amassing on the border at this point. They're probably headed somewhere,
it is maybe potentially al-Bab where they are going, where Mohamed al- Adnani, the public voice of ISIS, the was most high profile person to be assassinated in their ranks was most likely killed by a Pentagon
airstrike.
So, yes, there's some sense of momentum there. The issue is they may be heading towards those Syrian Kurds who Turkey considers to be
terrorists. Bold move by Turkey to take that part of territory. It's unclear how long they can hold it.
We were only given an hour-and-a-half snapshot under Turkish government supervision. But from what we could see, there was a sense of
chaos, perhaps a sense of organic life to the street to some degree. And also a momentum moving forward, Kristie.
LU STOUT: Yeah, a sense of momentum. But all eyes on what is going to happen in al-Bab. Nick Paton Walsh reporting live for us. Thank you,
Nick.
Now you're watching News Stream. And still to come on the program, protests erupt in Brazil after President Dilma Rousseff is impeached. We
take a look at what's next for the divided nation.
And, across Africa, wild elephants are vanishing at an alarming rate. The world's biggest conservation group says the solution lies in China.
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[08:20:53] LU STOUT: Coming to you live from Hong Kong, you're back watching News
Stream. Now, Brazil's first female president, Dilma Rousseff, is out of a job and her supporters are furious. Now, this is the scene in Sao Paulo
after Brazil's senate voted to boot Rousseff from her post.
Now protesters set fires, they damaged police cars, and Rousseff was found guilty of breaking
budgetary laws.
Now Shasta Darlington is in the capital Brazil, Brasilia. And, Shasta, tempers have certainly flared on the streets of Brazil. How have
supporters and critics of Rousseff reacted to impeachment?
SHASTA DARLINGTON, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Well, there is a lot of anger, Kristie. We saw protests in a number of cities across the
country, the biggest in Sao Paulo, the most violent in Sao Paulo, that's where we saw clashes with tear gas and stun grenades.
Basically they view this whole impeachment process as a parliamentary coup d'etat. As you mentioned, she's been ousted for breaking budgetary
laws, and yet they point out that many of the lawmakers who was behind this impeach drive are being investigated for corruption and other very serious
crimes.
But I should also point out that there were protests yesterday, but they were smaller than the ones in May when she was first suspended, which
shows there's also a certain amount of resignation. This is the path they've taken and they are moving forward, and much smaller than the
protests that we saw in the first half of the year when hundreds of thousands of Brazilians took to the street to demand an end of this
government, which has presided over the worst recession since the 1930s. And the woman at the helm during widespread corruption. She isn't
implicated, but it's corruption that tainted all of the political classes.
Despite all of that, Dilma Rousseff remains defiant. Listen to what she said just after the vote.
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DILMA ROUSSEFF, OUSTED PRESIDENT OF BRAZIL (through translator): This is the second coup I've confronted in my life. The first: the military
coup supported by the arms of repression and torture when I was a young militant. The second, the parliamentary coup today, a judicial farce that
removed me from the post I was elected to.
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DARLINGTON: And I should point out that right here at the presidential headquarters, her portraits have already been removed from the
walls. We're waiting to see when those of her successor, Michel Temer, will go up, Kristie.
LU STOUT: So, what's next for Brazil here? Will Rousseff's exit usher in the reform and the change that many Brazilians want?
DARLINGTON: So, there are huge challenges ahead. Michel Temer, Rousseff's former vice
president, the man she now accuses of orchestrating this coup d'etat was sworn in yesterday before jumping on a plane for China and the G20 meeting
there.
He said in a pretaped TV message that he knows the biggest challenge ahead is economic. Brazil is in its second year of recession, more than 11
million people are out of jobs. But he says he is going to tackle them, that while he also is not very popular among the Brazilian public, he does
have the alliances in congress and in the senate that could help him push through badly needed reforms, especially, for example, to the pension
system.
And he addressed that head on in the TV message last night.
This would raise the minimum retirement age which stands at an average 54 to 65. So, you can imagine a lot of people are opposed, but the idea is
that he is willing to tackle these tough reforms that the left leaning workers party was unable do in its 13 years in power,
Kristie.
LU STOUT: All right, Shasta Darlington reporting live for us from Brasilia. Thank you, Shasta.
Now, in neighboring Venezuela, big protests are being planned in Caracas. The opposition is rallying to push for a vote to oust President
Nicolas Maduro. Now supporters of Mr. Maduro are planning their own demonstration.
Venezuela is struggling with a deep recession and food shortages. And experts say that the economy will shrink 10 percent this year while
inflation will rise by 700 percent.
Now, I want to turn now to elephant conservation. It's an issue we've covered extensively here on the program.
Now, a recent study finds a rapid decline of the elephant population in Africa, an average
of 20,000 elephants have been killed each year since 2007. And much of the demand for their
ivory comes from China.
Now, the World Wildlife Fund says this: a rapid and effective ivory ban in China could be a very important step in reducing illegal trade in
ivory and consequently the scourge of poaching on elephants in Africa. It is our sincere hope that this domestic ivory trade ban could be implemented
as rapidly and effectively as possible."
Now, earlier I talked to the CEO of the World Wildlife Fund in China. And I started by asking how the proposed ban could help stop the illegal
trade of ivory.
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LO SZE PING, CEO, WWF CHINA: We have a good example of how we show that strong government measures in wildlife trade products from circulating
has positive effect. We have made similar measures in the 1990s on rhino horn and tiger bones. Nowadays we don't see rhino horns and tiger bones
openly being sold in the market in China. So, that shows an increased success in reducing wildlife product trading.
Of course there are still black markets going on. And we need to strengthen and consolidate the enforcement.
But we are hopeful that with an ivory ban enforced -- to be enforced in China, it will send
a very strong signal to the international community that the market will be closed and drastically reduced for ivory demand.
LU STUOT: But do you fear that it could be too late? Because there has been this catastrophic drop in elephant numbers. The census that just
came out reporting that a third of African elephants have been wiped out in seven years. Do you fear it's too late?
PING: Well, this is why the international community needs to work together to help saving the African elephants. Both countries where they
have elephants in their territory need to step up efforts as well as countries who do not have African elephants in their country, but may be
able to play a positive role in stopping the trade and reducing demand on ivory in other continents should also play a positive role.
And in that context, China can play a very important leading role in this global collectiev effort.
LU STOUT: Yeah, so much needs to be done in this global effort to go after the poachers, to limit the demand and the appetite for ivory in
China. Is there also another potential solution here? Introducing, for example, synthetic ivory tusks into the market to drive down price and
demand? Has that been considered?
PING: Yeah, well ivory carving is traditional art form. On the other hand, there are solutions and substitutes that can cheaply be used and
heritage while not threatening and endangering the population of elephants.
WWF is supportive of all other alternatives.
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LU STOUT: And that was World Wildlife Fund China's CEO Lo Sze Ping. And if you want to learn how to help protect African elephants, CNN has
identified several organizations dedicated to the cause. For more information just log on to CNN.com/impact.
Now, still ahead right here on the program, Hillary Clinton's running mate, Tim Kaine, has just spoken with CNN and we'll hear what he's say
about Trump's visit to Mexico and his tough immigration policies.
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[08:32:16] LU STOUT: Now just a few minutes ago, we heard from Hillary Clinton's running mate, Senator Tim Kaine. The Democratic vice
presidential candidate didn't hold back when asked about Donald Trump's trip to Mexico and Trump's tough stance on
immigration. Take a listen.
OK. Unfortunately, we don't have that video for you. We'll try to bring it to you a little bit later in the program.
But meanwhile, Russia and its recent moves in Syria and its tensions with Ukraine have thrust the country onto the world stage. And everyone is
waiting to see what President Putin's next move is going to be as world leaders head to the G20 summit in China.
Matthew Chance reports.
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MATTHEW CHANCE, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Uncertainty is a powerful weapon. And on the eve of the G20 summit, war ravaged eastern
Ukraine is again in its grip. Overnight shelling and casualties there are on the rise.
The worrying signs of new Russian military activity, too. Heavy armor has been spotted moving into Crimea, annexed by Russia in 2014. As world
leaders prepared to meet in China, where new tensions here will be difficult to ignore.
MARIA LIPMAN, POLITICAL ANALYST, CARNEGIE: I'd say Russia wants this as its bargaining power. Having everyone on the alert, having everyone
uncertain of what Russia's real intentions are, having fears of there maybe a large-scale war, a full-fledged war between Russia and Ukraine.
CHANCE: In the past, G20 meetings have seen Russia rebuked. Remember Brisbane in 2014 when Russia's president, sanctioned over Crimea, was
shunned by his peers. There's little chance of a repeat in China. Beijing has already declared Putin guest number one.
For a while after Crimea, talk in the west was of Russian isolation, painful U.S. and European sanctions, ramming home the consequences for
Moscow of violating international rules.
But Russia appears to have staged a comeback on the global stage, transforming itself into
a power that the G20 simply can't ignore, even if they wanted to.
That transformation is most vivid in Syria, where intensive Russian air power has shifted the
military balance towards its ally, Bashar al-Assad.
TRUMP: And by the way, wouldn't it be nice if we actually got along with Russia?
CHANCE: Russia has even emerged as an important issue in the U.S. presidential election, not exactly super power status, but a state to be
reckoned with.
LIPMAN: So, Russia is not on par with the United States, but it has reestablished itself on the
world scene as a very important player, as a player that's, you know, on front pages and on the minds of all the most important politicians of the
world.
MATTHEWS: And the latest tensions in Ukraine are set to keep it that way, pressuring the west to ease its sanctions, and reminding the G20 of
Russia's crucial role.
Matthew Chance, CNN, Moscow.
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LU STOUT: All right, as promised, here is that interview with Hillary Clinton's runningmate, Tim Kaine. He takes on Donald Trump's trip to
Mexico and well as his immigration policy.
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SEN. TIM KAINE, (D) VICE PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: Hillary has spent time with
President Pena Nieto, and I have been to Mexico within the last 16 months as a member of the Senate foreign relations committee. Hillary has paid
many visits there.
Hillary yesterday thought it was important to give a speech to the American Legion, to go to talk that prominent veteran's organization about
the role of America in the world. So, that's what she was doing while Donald Trump did a kind of a photo-op fly by where he didn't even have the
nerve at the last minute to bring up this issue about the wall. This is the central piece of his campaign, immigration and deportation and we're
going to build a wall and make Mexico pay for it. But when he looked President Pena Nieto in the eye, he couldn't even bring that up. That was
a choke, and I think it shows that diplomacy is not for amateurs, Donald Trump is an amateur.
CHRIS CUOMO, CNN CORRESPONDENT: But isn't diplomacy about the soft sell? If he had gone in there and looked at Pena Nieto and said you're
going to pay for that wall, whether you like it or not, wouldn't you have jumped on top of him saying look how harsh he is, you can't trust him in
these kinds of sensitive situations?
KAINE: I think diplomacy is fundamentally about honesty and candor and standing up for the values that you believe in. And so Donald Trump has
been saying for months, we're going to build a wall and Mexico's going to pay for it. If he really believed that, when he was sitting down with
President Pena Nieto, why not even bring that up?
And then he goes back, and then to the hometown audience, he gives this fiery speech, language of division. You know, this is the language
that everybody has used against every immigrant group, no Irish need apply. They used it against the Irish. They used it against Italians. They used it
against Jews from Eastern Europe. This is a language that there's a segment of demagogues have used. It's language of division.
We're not going to be a great nation by being deportation nation, 11 million people, plus Donald Trump has said he wants to take American
citizenship away from 5 million kids who have been born in this country. So let's make it 16 million people. We're not going to be great by having a
deportation taskforce to kick 16 million people out of this country.
CUOMO: You don't believe it's a winning strategy on the issue, harshness aside, to say, look, they're here illegally. They've broken the
law. You either respect the law or you don't.
KAINE: I think the winning strategy that Americans want to see is a reform of the immigration system which hasn't been reformed since 1986. And
there are bipartisan principles -- you know, in 2013 in the Senate we did a bipartisan bill. Hillary has said in the first 100 days we're going to sit
down, and 30 years after the date of the last immigration reform under President Reagan, we're going to basically put these pillars in place, and
the pillars will be give employers the tools to check the I.D. status of employees, create a difficult and rigorous path for people who are willing
to pay taxes, follow the law, get a background record check, to work over a period of years to earn the right to citizenship and do border security.
We had significant border security in the Senate bill we passed in June of 2013. We could have been doing that now, except the Republican
House refused to take up the bill or do their own bill. We need to push to do a comprehensive reform. It's not about deportation. It's about a
comprehensive reform that can help our economy grow and that is true to our nation's values.
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LU STOUT; And that was Democratic vice presidential nominee, Tim Kaine, speaking with CNN New Day a short time ago.
You've watching News Stream. We'll be back after this.
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YOSHIRO ISHII, PHOTOGRAPHER (through translator): My style is street photography. I can probably say it's street documentary. I always try to
put some essence of something Japanese into my photos. If you want to take a good photo in Tokyo, you should walk around on foot a lot. When you
explore the narrow back streets, you will always find something interesting.
I see something very Japanese in shrines. It is difficult to find this kind of tori (ph), or gate, in Tokyo. With the flags here as well, it
lets me add Japanese essence into my photography.
Odaiba (ph) is a very rare spot in Tokyo. There are beaches with a view of the iconic rainbow bridge. It is a place where I can take photos
and relax.
About two years ago I started taking Instagram photos at an event called worldwide Instagram
Meetup held here. It was the first opportunity for me to meet the well known Instagramers in Tokyo and I received a lot of inspiration from them.
I was able to take a memorable photo that encouraged me to become a photographer after meeting the great Instagramers who influenced me a lot.
The combination of the sunset and rainbow bridge that you can see from Odaiba (ph) is super
beautiful. You can walk across the bridge and the view from the bridge is awesome, too.
With so many people seeing my photos, posting comments, and pressing like on my Instagram
photos, I always get confidence and courage from them. I would like to take better photos, and I think shy study photography more.
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LU STOUT: Gorgeous visuals there.
And that is News Stream. I'm Kristie Lu Stout. But don't go anywhere. World Sport with Christina Macfarlane is next.
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