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Donald Trump Visits Detroit, Receives Varied Reactions; Guests Discuss Potential Impact On Trump's Campaign From Detroit Visit; Trump Visits Detroit Church To Appeal To Black Voters; FBI Releases Clinton Email Investigation Report; Pastor Presents Trump With Prayer Shawl. Aired 11a-12p ET
Aired September 03, 2016 - 11:00 ET
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FREDRICKA WHITFIELD, CNN HOST, "NEWSROOM": Hello everyone it's 11:00 on the East coast. I'm Fredricka Whitfield. Let's start this hour with this breaking news outside of Detroit. Donald Trump is in that city today for what will be his first address to a predominantly African American audience.
You're looking at the scene outside the Great Faith Ministries Church, where Donald Trump will be attending services. Outside you have protestors there who have been gathering, some even chanting, "Dump Trump." CNN's Jeremy Diamond is there outside of the church, and also where many people are assembling.
So first, Jeremy, is Donald Trump even on the premises? Is he inside? We know there was going to be a one-on-one conversation with the Bishop there. And then also the congregation would be meeting with Donald Trump. What is happening there, where is the candidate?
JEREMY DIAMOND, CNN POLITICS REPORTER: Well I haven't seen Donald Trump's motorcade arrive but he was scheduled to be in there right now so he may in fact be inside the church already. You know Donald Trump is finally taking his African American outreach to the city of Detroit, to a predominantly African American church, here.
And this comes after weeks during which he leveled his pitch to African American voters, largely before predominantly white audiences. So of course this is notable but when he does come to areas like this, like Detroit, he is obviously going to be faced with protest. And that's what we've seen here.
We've seen a couple hundred protesters come out already. I'm here with Pastor Maurice Jackson, Pastor Moe as he's known to the folks here in Detroit. He's a Pastor with the church here in inner city Detroit. And also an activist with the "Live in Peace" movement. Pastor, what do you think of Donald Trump coming here to Detroit. Why are you out here protesting?
PASTOR MAURICE JACKSON, "LIVE IN PEACE" MOVEMENT MEMBER: Well I'm out here protesting because Donald Trump is here with a policy that's not for really the willing people (ph). He hasn't talked to the right (ph) people in Detroit. Wayne T., I thank God for him, doing an interview which he does not support Trump, he's interviewing him. Hopefully I can tell coarseness (ph).
Detroit has come in here with a publicity stunt, it's scripted questions, to act like he is touching one of the most ruinest cities, poverty stricken cities, murderous cities in the nation. Detroit started mobility over the world. We had automobiles, no city had movement without us. We are the movement.
So to come here with a scripted message without conversing with the top people. I am the pastor that's on the ground. I've buried eight children this year from retaliation murder, shot with AK-47s. We get them in car deaths, carjackings, murder-homicide. There are a number of code issues (ph). We're on the ground, I'm burying these kids. Why don't you know who our Pastor Moe is? Why don't you know who "Live in Peace" is? Come talk to us.
I met with the Mayor just last week. Me and the Mayor sat down and had a two-hour talk. I met with Chief Craig on -- the Chief of Police, on several occasions to talk about these problems and these deep (ph) issues. State Reps, why don't my candidate, or the candidate who want my vote, come talk to the people that's dealing with the pain?
DIAMOND: So obviously, already he's coming here to Detroit and you see all of these protests. Do you think that that maybe is part of the calculus as to why he's not going to the places that you're talking about? That he's not going directly to the people? Because a lot of people don't like him in your community, perhaps.
JACKSON: It ain't (ph) that we don't like him, we don't like what he says. He has a message of clemency but he does correct (ph) message. He speaks against minority people, he talks about sending people home, as if he was born, as if he came here by God. You came here and took over this country, you wasn't here, imbedded in this country. You came here and took over something for your ancestors (ph).
So respect other people, other races. You don't build up a wall. How about this, Trump, build up the people and we'll build your walls. We'll certainly things (ph) that we built pyramids that people came out even stun them (ph) to this day. The African American people are some of the most strongest, most resilient people. You start (ph) a race, throw houses back, catch up with their race and win the race? That means you a accident runner (ph).
We started off 400 years back and we now the president of the free world (ph). Which means we are resilient people. Respect the African American vote. Don't tell us what we want. Here's what we need.
DIAMOND: And he has talked about a lot of the problems that he says afflict the African American community. He's talked about inner-city violence, he's talked about poverty, about bringing jobs back to the communities. Do you, do you think that, do you give him credit for at least addressing those issues, something that a Republican nominee might not traditionally do?
JACKSON: What I will say, Trump opened up his mouth and he will speak things that's hardcore, that politicians normally tiptoe around. I'm glad he's bringing it to the table. All I'm asking him is don't put it under the table. Deal with it.
DIAMOND: And ...
JACKSON: ... And force the Democrats to also deal with it.
DIAMOND: And when he's talked about inner-city violence and he's talked about the shootings that we've seen in a number of American cities, he says that the solution is more police. More police in the cities, more police in black communities and minority communities. Do you think that that's the solution, being on the ground and seeing these shootings happen? Seeing people die?
JACKSON: Here, see, that's a person who's out of touch. You can't arrest your way out of this. Police need to be unwell (ph). They have, we have some, we have the best police force in the nation right here in Detroit. Number one, Chief of Police, Chief Craig, we work closely with him. We need more economical principle.
If a young man has his own car, he ain't got to carjack me and you for his car. The funding and economical basis is wrong. Donald Trump has put up hotels, motels, and showtels. He's too all the -- his companies and took them over to other countries that get less pay. So he has been part of the process to rape our country, and cherry pick, and come back to talk about how he want to wipe (ph) for the good (ph) of the people. You can't be the murderer and the pallbearer. Take your pick.
DIAMOND: Thank you so much, pastor. So as you can see, this is a lot of the stuff that we're hearing from folks out here. A lot of anger at Donald Trump's words. The rhetoric that he's used on the campaign trail, which many people say has been hurtful to minority communities. You know, he's talked about a range of things. And of course a lot of those, he's hitting a chord right now with people here. Perhaps not in the way that he wants to.
WHITFIELD: All right, so Jeremy, give us an idea of what the schedule of events will be. Outside of the protest, what the Trump campaign and what that church had planned. There would be the arrival of Donald Trump. There would be an interview, a one-on-one interview with the Bishop there. And then there would be church service there on -- at that church. Give us an idea of what we know about the details of that event. That's what we know that's been publicized. But what do you know about details about how all of that will be executed?
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DIAMOND: Well a lot of the details have been a little bit hard to come by, as sometimes happens with the Trump campaign. But also keep in mind that a lot of this is because of security concerns. And you know Secret Service is being involved in keeping details closed until the last possible second. One thing that we do know is that Donald Trump is going to be in this church. He's going to do a closed-door reception with some individuals including the Bishop Wayne Jackson, who is the head minister of this church. And then he's going to do an interview as well with that Bishop.
Which is set to air next week. He's also perhaps going to be addressing the congregation here. I spoke with Armstrong Williams who is a close associate to Dr. Ben Carson. And Dr. Ben Carson is actually going to introduce Donald Trump before this congregation, is what we understand.
And then there is also the possibility that Donald Trump will go with Dr. Ben Carson into a community in Detroit to get a bit of a tour from Ben Carson. Who, of course, came from inner-city Detroit and rose to become a very prominent neurosurgeon and ultimately, presidential candidate. And now Donald Trump's supporter.
I was asking some people here what they think about Dr. Carson. Of course, he still has some respect in this community but some people have said that he squandered that by his association with Donald Trump. And so certainly, Dr. Carson is going to be a shepherd of sorts to Donald Trump as he tries to understand the problems afflicting inner cities in America, including Detroit. So we'll have to see what Donald Trump takes away from this and what the words are that he has to say to the people in this community.
WHITFIELD: And then, Jeremy, quickly, we know that Donald Trump, as the Republican nominee, has secret service detail. And usually when a candidate with secret service detail, or even an elected official with such, there is a prelude of a security sweep to any kind of tour areas. Do we know whether or not that has happened to kind of underscore that a tour, indeed, will happen in Detroit, there?
DIAMOND: We don't yet have any details on that. We're still waiting to kind of see what happens exactly. But we'll certainly be standing by and let you know as soon as we hear.
WHITFIELD: All right, Jeremy Diamond, thank you so much. Keep us posted on all that's taking place there. Again, large gathering of people who are protesting the scheduled appearance of Donald Trump there, at that church. Meantime let's bring in Alisha Bell. She is the Vice Chair of the Wayne County Commission. And so Alisha, give me an idea. You are there at that location where behind you we see a backdrop of a number of people who have gathered presumably outside the Great Faith Ministries Church.
Your initial reaction to Donald Trump being there, you have already said that you think it's a last-ditch effort to save face after all the criticism that Donald Trump has had. Do you still believe that?
ALISHA BELL, VICE CHAIR, WAYNE COUNTY COMMISSION: Yes how are you? Thank you so much for having me. You know I really believe it's too little too late. Mr. Trump has had over a year to court the African American community. And now, two months before the election he's in Detroit, he's in Philadelphia yesterday. I really do believe it's too little too late.
WHITFIELD: And so, the sentiment overall for many of the protesters there, we were hearing them say "dump Trump," we just had a guest there with our Jeremy Diamond. For the majority of people who have gathered outside, is that the sentiment? Or are there people outside who support Donald Trump, even though it's two months ahead of the November election?
BELL: The majority of the people here are actually on the "dump Trump," no Donald Trump movement. Again, coming to our community so close to the general election when he had all this other time where he could have been speaking to national organizations, the Urban Leages, NAACP, National Action Network, and even my organization, The National Association of Black Counties Officials.
We'd had over a year when he could have been talking to us, trying to find out what our issues are. And then to come two months before the election and try to speak to a congregation. I think that's very disingenuous. And the people are here, they're upset about that. Because they want some dialogue prior to now. A relationship needs to be built prior to two months before an election.
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WHITFIELD: And I know you say too little too late, but the day is here. And if it still goes on as scheduled and Donald Trump will be interviewed by the Bishop there, Wayne Jackson, what are you hoping will be asked? And what are you hoping the answers will be? We did get a prelude, according to New York Times reporting, a prelude of some of the questions that were going to be asked. But what is your hope that could come from this interview?
BELL: You know I think that's another troubling point that the questions were given to him in advance. And that he has scripted answers. But we are here today and some of the things that I would like him to address are criminal justice reform. That's an issue pertaining to a lot of African Americans. Also equitable, public education. That's an issue that's important to many of us, as well as gun control laws.
Those are the things that me -- we as African Americans really want him to address. And I hope that Bishop Jackson asks him those questions and I hope that he can give us some concise, direct answers to those. And not just speak in tritatude (ph).
WHITFIELD: So on the issue of criminal justice reform, we've heard Donald Trump already say flood -- particularly African American -- neighborhoods with more police. Give them more attention in which to help make an impact on the crime rate. What's your response to that?
BELL: What we need is not necessarily more police, but what we need are jobs such that people won't feel that they have to do crimes ...
WHITFIELD: He says he'll bring more jobs.
BELL: ... in order to survive. More jobs, absolutely. Jobs, training programs, a better educational system. Those things will help decrease our crime levels. And those are the things that we want to hear about. What are his plans, what are his issue points, are we (ph) going to address those? And how we could work together if there are some things that we think are substantive. But right now we've just heard a lot of platitude, a lot of things are
going wrong in our community. We know what's going wrong in our communities and we're working to address those things and make them better. But we want to know from him if he would -- should be our president, what is he going to do to really, sincerely address those issues in our community.
WHITFIELD: And he has said, broad brush, he will bring more jobs. That's something that he says he has a lot of experience in doing. What specifically more would you need to hear from him to be persuaded that he is addressing a need within the black American community?
BELL: Well I think that's interesting when he has many of his clothing line items built out of the country. So bringing more jobs, I would say we'll start with manufacturing some of his own line of clothing, bringing jobs here is going to involve job training. Bringing jobs is going to maybe open up different businesses here in our communities.
We have a wonderful city of Detroit and there's so much things going wonderful for our city. But we still are lacking in jobs. So I want a specific plan on how he believes his policies are going to address economics of our city and cities like Detroit all across the country. We want a specific plan and on those issue to make sure that they mesh with what we want. And to have us at the table as he develops those plans.
For him just to say what they are and not get input from us is not going to work, as well. But we have to walk hand-in-hand with whatever his ideas are on how he would supposedly bring jobs to our community. He has not done that in the past, I don't see how he could do that now. Especially after all this time.
Relationships matter and relationships he has not had in our community. It's evident by the protesters that we have here. You just can't come at the end of your campaign and ask to support you. You have to have had to build a relationship over the years, over the decades, so that we can know who you are, know how you feel about certain topics, and then build that trust. That we can then say, "let's sit down and talk about our plans together."
WHITFIELD: And what do you say to his supporters, namely even today? We heard from some supporters who said give him credit. It may be late, but at least he's there today.
BELL: And correct. I mean, the Impact Television has a wide viewership. And it's wonderful that he is speaking through Bishop Jackson to that network on a variety of issues that I'm sure Bishop Jackson will ask him. He is her today but what did he really expect the response would be to a community where he has not been.
When he came to Detroit a few weeks ago he was at the Detroit Economic Club, which was a primarily white audience. He spoke about his economic program with the decreased economic and taxes for our corporations. Decreasing taxes for corporations means increasing revenue that can go into our coiffers *(ph) at the state and local levels.
So he has to talk more about what he is going to do, specifically. And not just popping into Philadelphia yesterday, popping into Detroit today, and making his plea of his case and then knowing that we're just 60 days away.
WHITFIELD: Some polls show that his popularity among African Americans, 1 percent. Is it your belief as it is his campaign's belief that even a visit today might help broaden that support?
BELL: Unfortunately I do not think his visit today is going to increase those numbers. People are going to look at the totality of the remarks that he has made over the last year. The things that he's said about women, Latinos, the African American community, talking to us at the Dimondale event a few weeks ago here in Michigan. They're going to listen to that, and they have listened to that.
And that has not been something that African Americans have enjoyed listening to. As a matter of fact, most of us are pretty insulted that he has talked at us and not to us. So coming today is not going to do much, I believe, to increase his poll numbers. It may increase his poll numbers to suburban women, but not African Americans, in my opinion.
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WHITFIELD: All right, Alisha Bell, thank you so much from Detroit. We'll check back with you and the scene there. Stay with us ...
BELL: That's a plan (ph).
WHITFIELD: We are now about to see images and there you have it, inside the Great Faith Ministry International Church there in Detroit. We'll have more on this breaking news as many protesters gather outside of what is to be a visit by Republican nominee, Donald Trump. We'll be right back.
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WHITFIELD: All right, breaking news right now, a major outreach to the African American community. You're seeing the back of the head right there of Republican nominee, Donald Trump, enjoying the music inside the Great Faith Ministries International Church there in Detroit. He arrived just moments ago.
And you can hear, as service is getting underway with music and with singing right now. Outside, quite the contrast. Lots of consternation outside. A number of protesters have gathered there. Many of them yelling, "dump Trump." This as Donald Trump either arrived or was presumably inside.
The plan of the day is that Donald Trump would actually have a one-on- one taped interview with the Bishop, Wayne Jackson. He's also the President of the Impact Network there. And that interview to be aired later on. But then today, Donald Trump would then, after that interview be inside of the congregation, meeting with them, enjoying services for today.
So let's talk more about how this might impact, will it impact Donald Trump's candidacy for the White House. Polling showing that his appeal to African Americans is hovering around 1 percent. I want to bring in right now Politics Editor for TheRoot.com, and Morgan State University Professor, Jason Johnson. And CNN Senior Political Analyst and Senior Editor for the Atlantic, Ron Brownstein.
So as we look at these live pictures gentlemen, first off Jason, your impressions. You're here with me in Atlanta, your impressions of what's taking place here, hearing protesters outside. But Donald Trump, his campaign saying it's not too little too late, at least he's showing an effort, reaching out to the African American community this way.
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JASON JOHNSON, EDITOR, "THEROOT.COM": I got to be honest, Fred. I'm not all that impressed. And the reason why is I don't think that any candidate deserves to be praised or getting credit for actually trying to go out and campaign.
The situation, the protest outside and the reaction inside, these are all things that Donald Trump has caused on his own. When you decide that you want to show up and somebody's house at 11:55 and say, "no, I love you and these are gifts for Valentine's Day," of course they're going to be skeptical.
And he has spent 18 months of his campaign being dismissive to different kinds of minority groups. And now he wants to show up. I don't think this makes that much of a difference. And to be honest, all the protest outside, I don't think it appeals to moderate or possibly wavering white swing voters.
So this is something that Trump wants to do, I don't see it having that much of an impact on the polls when the weekend's over.
WHITFIELD: And then Ron, on the issue of skepticism, many people in the African American community say they cannot forget that it's Donald Trump who started the whole birther movement. So it's very difficult to see how genuine he is about reaching out, or appealing to African American community. Many of whom already feel very skeptical about him at this time (ph).
RON BROWNSTEIN, CNN SENIOR POLITICAL ANALYST: That's a good point. And look, I think -- look, I think it is a valuable thing for Republicans to be competing for African American votes, which hasn't always been the case, however belatedly.
But as you know, Donald Trump really has an enormous credibility problem that makes it very difficult to imagine him making many inroads. Not only with the birther movement, with the kind of comments about David Duke. Even the way he's portrayed the Black Lives Matter question. With unequivocally really siding with police as opposed to arguing that their needs to be an accommodation that increases trust on both sides. And of course, as Michael Kranish (ph) pointed out in the last hour, a
history going back into the 1970s with questions about racial discrimination in his companies, and central park joggers, he simply is not a credible messenger, I think, in the African American community.
And you know look, it's important to know that it is not just the African American community. The electorate is growing inexorably more diverse. And Donald Trump is facing historic negatives with Hispanic Americans as well. And his proposal this week to significantly cut legal immigration over time would have a significant impact on the Asian American community. And I think he may struggle there.
So you may see an across the board question in the Republican Party after this election, win or lose, about whether they can sustain a path that has been facing so many challenges among all of these growing diverse groups in America.
WHITFIELD: All right, it's really just getting underway as is our conversation with you, Ron and Jason. We're going to take a short break for now. But again, live pictures inside the Great Faith Ministries International Church. And outside there, in Detroit. We'll be right back.
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WHITFIELD: All right welcome back. Live pictures now inside and outside the Great Faith Ministries International Church there in Detroit. Also inside that congregation with what appears to be a full house, is Republican nominee Donald Trump. This is his campaign's effort, latest effort, to say, this is an outreach to the African American community.
However, outside the ministries church there you see a number of people have gathered. Many of them calling themselves protesters. Actually changing "dump Trump." Let's listen in more to inside the church and hear what's going on.
All right just a portion of kind of the flavor there inside the Great Faith Ministries International. The Bishop, Wayne Jackson, has said in a press release that this is not a rally or an endorsement for Mr. Trump. I'm quoting him now, he says, "This is an opportunity as a community to get answers to questions that seriously impact our daily lives and future. Our community is diverse and not all issues relate to all black people. But our goal is to address those issues which are most pressing to parts of our community in these times."
He extended the invitation to Donald Trump. And in the front row we have seen the pictures, the back of the head of Donald Trump. He is there. So right now, the Republican presidential nominee is covering about 1 percent in the polling in terms of as he appeals to the African American voters.
Let's talk more about the dynamics here. Our Jeremy Diamond is outside where the protesters are. And then inside I've got Jason Johnson with me, and Ron Brownstein also with me. So can we go to Jeremy first and find out -- OK we don't have Jeremy right now. So let's begin with my panelists here, Jason Johnson and Ron Brownstein.
So you know, you heard from the Bishop there who says this is really kind of an exploratory mission for he and his church. They want some answers from Donald Trump in terms of issues that relate to African Americans. We know that there was a sit-down, one-on-one interview that was planned ...
[11:30:03] They want answers from Donald Trump in terms of issues that relate to African-Americans.
We know there was a sit down one-on-one interview that was planned between the bishop -- we still don't know whether that happened or not. We were told before this day that there would be a one-on-one taped interview between the bishop and Mr. Trump, and that interview might air later.
Maybe even a week from now and then there would be this service. We still don't know if Donald Trump is going to be speaking. All we know is here we are. We have arrived.
You know, Jason and Ron, you were both talking about relationships. A long-standing relationship or lack thereof. And one of the biggest observations and complaints from many people in the black community have been where has Donald Trump been before now?
So, Jason, Donald Trump's campaign says this is a -- their best effort right now. Two months away from election, it has to mean something. What else do you have to lose he says?
JASON JOHNSON, POLITICS EDITOR, THEROOT.COM: Well, that's the problem. People still can give him a list of things they think they're going to lose. They think they'll lose access of healthcare. They think they'll lose access to any investigations of police behavior.
They think they'll lose access to jobs and Donald Trump hasn't convinced anyone that his policies are beneficial to the African- American community. Here's the other thing, you know, I'm not cast aspirations on this bishop. I don't know him, right? I haven't been to his church.
But let's be honest about how these things can get setup. This is a lot of attention. We're talking about a church that none of us have ever heard before now. They're getting a lot of international attention, so of course, someone is going to let Donald Trump come speak to them because it strokes the ego.
And it gives you a lot of attention, but it doesn't mean that the people who are in that room right now believe in Donald Trump. It just means they like the idea they're going to get on TV.
WHITFIELD: And so Ron, is this more harmful to a Donald Trump if he doesn't speak or is it helpful? How do you balance this? Is it helpful at least that he's there?
RON BROWNSTEIN, CNN SENIOR POLITICAL ANALYST: Yes, look, it's extraordinary that this is extraordinary, right. I mean, the idea that it is worthy of national notice that a presidential candidate for one of the major parties is speaking to an audience that comprises, you know, roughly one in eight voters.
You know, it's just a reflection of how insular the campaign has been to this point. I mean, Donald Trump is the end of a process of a debate in the Republican Party.
As we all remember in 2012 after Mitt Romney won a higher share of white voters than Ronald Reagan did in 1980 and still lost by five million votes, there was a big debate inside the Republican Party.
There was the famous autopsy by the Republican National Committee that said, look, we have to find ways to talk to this growing diverse America. There was a counterattack from conservative intellectuals and analysts who said the real problem is we're not turning out enough culturally conservative whites.
That led to the backlash against immigration reform, after the Senate passed it in 2013. Donald Trump is I think the end of that conveyor belt.
They campaigned that whatever icing on the cake (inaudible) may represent is fundamentally about mobilizing the most culturally conservative whites, what I've called the coalition of restoration, the blue collar, non-urban white voters who are the most uneasy about demographic change.
And the price of that is he is facing historic negatives among the competing coalition transformation, the parts of the Democratic coalition, millennials, minorities, socially liberal college educated whites that are the most comfortable with the diversity that we're seeing.
So whatever happens here today, Donald Trump is looking at, I think, historic deficits among non-white communities and the need to thus produce really almost unprecedented margins among white voters to prevail.
I think that will be the debate after this election win or lose in the Republican Party. Is that a viable strategy after we see the results in November?
WHITFIELD: This is Bishop Wayne Jackson right here. Perhaps we should listen in because it will be interesting whether he says anything about Donald Trump's presence there or if it's a given that it doesn't need reminding.
All right. So still more music right now and singing, of course. When there is reference to Donald Trump, hopefully we'll be on time with it.
All right. So, you know, Ron says, and underscores there have been historic deficits. Jason, you also hear from Alicia Bell, county commissioner earlier, who says this is insulting.
It is insulting that this close to Election Day and this is the effort that Donald Trump is making and this is representative of an outreach to the African-American community.
JOHNSON: I don't think it's an issue of insulting. It's just incompetent. I mean, this is not a very whirl wind campaign on a lot of different levels. I mean, if you look at this week, you know, Hillary Clinton, the notes about Hillary Clinton's e-mail interviews have been exposed.
An e-mail was leaked showing that the Democratic Party is basically stiff arming Black Lives Matter. These are things that should be knocking Hillary Clinton two or three percentage points down amongst the African-American community and Donald Trump can't capitalize on it because he keeps saying racist an incompetent things.
[11:35:13]That's I think the larger issue here so he can say whatever he wants. He'll be at the church. Like I said, would CNN ever be at this man's church? No, this is why the black community is doing it. They want the attention. It's not going to change anything in the dynamics of the race. That's what I think is the saddest part about it.
This community is allowing themselves I think on some level to be used by Donald Trump to sort of placate Republicans who think he's running a racist campaign when they're not really going to get anything out of him that should change how this race functions.
WHITFIELD: Jeremy Diamond is there outside of the Great Faith Ministries Church. Jeremy, a number of people have gathered. We've heard them say dump Trump. What else are you witnessing there outside the church?
JEREMY DIAMOND, CNN POLITICAL REPORTER: Well, the things that we've heard from protesters here is that they're upset at the way that Donald Trump's visit to Detroit is happening. They're upset at the fact that Donald Trump was given questions in advance for this interview that he was able to prepare a scripted response, his campaign and the RNC at least.
And some of them are also upset at the words that Donald Trump has used during his campaign. You know, he's been dismissive of the Black Lives Matter Movement and those terms in which he's made his appeal to African-Americans lately have been in ways that some people think are hyperbolic and not reflective of the reality that many African- Americans face in the country.
Donald Trump has said what do you have to lose and the response here that we got from a number of the community leaders who I spoke with was we have a lot to lose actually. We have our voting rights, our freedoms that we've gained over the civil rights struggle over decades in the past.
So of course, the African-Americans here are saying we do have a lot to lose and that Donald Trump's words in terms of saying you have no jobs, you have no schools, are not necessarily reflective of the reality of most African-Americans.
And certainly while there are problems in Detroit, I spoke with the pastor, Pastor Mo Jackson, who talked to me about the struggles that he deals with his community there in inner city Detroit. The killings that happen there.
When I talked to him about Donald Trump's solution, which is to bring more police into the community, he said that that's all wrong. Saying essentially that, you know, more police is not the problem, necessarily. That it's about education and it's about jobs.
Also a message that Donald Trump has talked about, but he hasn't said specifically how he can bring those jobs to minority communities and to impoverished communities in cities like Detroit.
WHITFIELD: All right, Jeremy Diamond, we'll check back with you. Ron Brownstein will be back with us. Jason Johnson as well. We continue to watch inside the church, inside Great Faith Ministries International.
We're going to take a short break. When we come back more coverage of the invited guest there, the Republican nominee, Donald Trump, in Detroit.
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WHITFIELD: All right, welcome back. We continue to watch the goings on there in Detroit. You see Donald Trump in the midst of all at the Great Faith Ministries International Church as service got underway about 20 minutes or so ago. We are going to continue to monitor events there and see what kind of message he does indeed convey during his campaign's outreach to the African-American community.
All right, meantime, here are the quotes, "I do not recall, I do not remember." That's the defense Hillary Clinton told the FBI at least 39 times during an interview about her private e-mail server.
She also said to the FBI that she didn't know what the letter "c" meant on notes contained with confidential documents. That's just a fraction of the fresh information revealed in Clinton's FBI interview notes of an interview that lasted about three and a half hours long. The notes were released on Friday, of course, Donald Trump is seizing on these new revelations.
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DONALD TRUMP (R), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: When you look at what they've done with respect to this FBI notes, where she didn't know what the letter "c" was. That's a lie unless she's not an intelligent person. That's a total lie.
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WHITFIELD: CNN' Joe Johns has more detail on the release of the latest FBI report.
JOE JOHNS, CNN SENIOR WASHINGTON CORRESPONDENT: The release of these redacted papers tells us more than we've ever known about the FBI's investigation of Hillary Clinton's e-mail controversy. But it leaves plenty of questions.
For example, we knew that the agents found no evidence that her e- mails were compromised, but that's not conclusive because they were not able to locate all 13 mobile devices that may have been used and the biggest question of all is about Mrs. Clinton's fuzzy memory of the facts.
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JOHNS: The FBI's formerly classified report on its investigation into Hillary Clinton's private e-mail server reveals there was a lot she said she could not remember when being questioned by agents.
The report indicates 39 different time Mrs. Clinton said there were things she did not recall or remember according to the FBI's notes on her interview.
The documents providing insight into why the FBI did not recommend charging Clinton even with classified information on her private server including 81 e-mail chains that contained sensitive information.
JAMES COMEY, FBI DIRECTOR: Although we did not find clear evidence that Secretary Clinton or her colleagues intended to violate laws governing the handling of classified information, there is evidence that they were extremely careless in their handling of very sensitive, highly classified information.
JOHNS: In her more than three-hour interview with the FBI, Clinton could not recall any briefing or training by state related to the handling of classified information.
She said she could not recall every briefing about how she should preserve her records when she left the State Department. The FBI noting she was recovering from a concussion and blood clot at the time.
Clinton said she relied on her aides to use their judgment when e- mailing her and could not recall anyone raising concerns about information sent to her private account.
She also said she did not know that a "c" marking on the document meant it was classified and even asked interviewing agents for clarification.
Some of the classified e-mails that caused the most trouble for Clinton discussed the CIA's covert drone program, which should never be discussed on any unclassified e-mail systems.
The report says Clinton stated "Deliberation over a future drone strike did not give her cause for concern regarding classification." But one of the things Mrs. Clinton seemed conclusive about was her motivation. She told the FBI she used her personal e-mail server for convenience and not to evade freedom of information laws.
Attorney General Loretta Lynch followed the FBI's recommendation and passed when prosecuting Clinton who eventually admitted using a private e-mail server was a mistake.
HILLARY CLINTON (D), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: I would certainly not do that again. That is something that at the time I -- as even Director Comey said seemed like a convenience, but it was the wrong choice.
[11:45:01]JOHNS: Donald Trump wasted no time seizing on the release saying, quote, "Hillary Clinton's answers to the FBI about her private e-mail server defied belief. I was absolutely shocked to see that her answers to the FBI stood in direct contradiction to what she told the American people."
JOHNS (on camera): The Clinton campaign got what it wanted on Friday, it called for the release of these documents in order to avoid selective leaking of the information by her opposition --
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WHITFIELD: All right, we'll talk more about the e-mails and Joe Johns reporting in a moment. But right now, let's listen into Bishop Wayne Jackson at the Great Faith Ministries International Church. He's introducing that he has a guest in the house, Republican nominee, Donald Trump.
BISHOP WAYNE JACKSON, GREAT FAITH MINISTRIES INTERNATIONAL CHURCH: Mr. Trump, will you come? Would you stand, Mr. Trump, again?
DONALD TRUMP, GOP PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: Thank you. Thank you very much.
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Thank you. That's so nice, thank you.
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Thank you very much.
Well, that's so nice.
And, Bishop Jackson, I want to thank you and Dr. Jackson. And you have some voice, I have to say. Incredible, and some spirit, some spirit. Moved. Talent.
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Thank you.
Well, I just wrote this the other day knowing I'd be here. And I mean it from the heart. And I'd like to just read it. And I think you'll understand it maybe better than I do in certain ways.
For centuries, the African-American church has been the conscience of our country, so true. It's from the pews and pulpits and Christian teachings of black churches all across this land that the civil rights movement lifted up its soul and lifted up the soul of our nation.
It's from these pews that our nation has been inspired toward a better moral character, a deeper concern for mankind, and spirit of charity and unity that binds us all together, and we are bound together, and I see that today. This has been an amazing day for me.
The African-American faith community has been one of God's greatest gifts to America and to its people. There is perhaps no action our leaders can take that would do more to heal our country and support our people than to provide a greater platform to the black churches and churchgoers.
You do right every day by your community and your families. You raise children in the light of God. I will always support your church, always, and defend your right to worship. It's so important.
I am here today to listen to your message, and I hope my presence here will also help your voice to reach new audiences in our country. And many of these audiences desperately need your spirit and your thought, I can tell you that.
Christian faith is not the past, but the present and the future. Make it stronger, we'll make it stronger.
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And we'll open it up to great, great leaders, like Pastor Jackson, Bishop Jackson, Dr. Jackson, and so many others, and so many others actually sitting here, Darrell Scott, who's phenomenal, who has been with me for so long, so long.
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Omarosa, who's actually a very nice person, but I don't want to say that because I'll destroy her image by saying that. But she's actually a very, very fine person and a pastor.
And I just want to thank all of the folks. And there is somebody that's been very special to me, Dr. Ben Carson, who's been -- stand up, Ben. Come here.
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Come here, Ben.
This is a great man and a great guy.
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So as I prepare to campaign all across the nation and in every community, I will have an opportunity to lay out my plans for economic change, which will be so good for Detroit and so good for this community because we're going to bring jobs back.
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I will have a chance -- thank you. We'll bring them back. We're taking them back from Mexico and everywhere else because they're gone.
I will have a chance to discuss school choice, which is very important, and how to put every American on the ladder to success, a great education and a great job.
But today I just want to let you know that I am here to listen to you. And I've been doing that. And we had a fantastic interview with Bishop Jackson. It was really an amazing interview. He's better than the people that do that professionally, I will tell you, it's true, it's true.
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It's true. He was better. And I didn't really know what I was getting myself into. I didn't know. Was this going to be nice? Was this going to be wild? He is a great gentleman and a very smart guy. I just hope you don't lose him to Hollywood. That's the only problem. And especially Dr. Jackson, she may be gone. Hollywood is calling, look at all those television cameras back there.
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No, look at all the television cameras. I'm sorry to do that to you, Bishop, because, you know, one of those things, right?
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Our nation is too divided. We talk past each other, not to each other. And those who seek office do not do enough to step into the community and learn what is going on. They don't know, they have no clue.
I'm here today to learn so that we can together remedy injustice in any form and so that we can also remedy economics so that the African- American community can benefit economically through jobs and income and so many other different ways.
Our political system has failed the people and works only to enrich itself. I want to reform that system so that it works for you, everybody in this room. I believe true reform can only come from outside the system. I really mean that. Being a businessman is much different than being a politician because I understand what's happening. And we are going outside of the establishment.
Becoming the nominee of the party of Abraham Lincoln -- a lot of people don't realize that Abraham Lincoln, the great Abraham Lincoln, was a Republican -- has been the greatest honor of my life. It is on his legacy that I hope to build the future of the party, but more important, the future of the country and the community. I believe we need a civil rights agenda for our time, one that ensures the rights to a great education, so important, and the right to live in safety and in peace and to have a really, really great job, a good- paying job and one that you love to go to every morning. And that can happen. We need to bring our companies back.
It also means the right to have a government that protects our workers and fights, really fights for our jobs. I want to help you build and rebuild Detroit. And we can do that, especially with people like Bishop Jackson and Dr. Jackson. I mean that.
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It's been an amazing experience. It's been an amazing experience. True.
Nothing is more sad than when we sideline young black men with unfulfilled potential, tremendous potential. I met some people this morning that were incredible people and they're looking for jobs. These are incredible people, young people. Our whole country loses out when we're unable to harness the brilliance and the energy of these folks.
We're one nation. And when anyone hurts, we all hurt together. And that's so true, so true.
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We're all brothers and sisters and we're all created by the same God. We must love each other and support each other, and we are in this all together, all together.
I fully understand that the African-American community has suffered from discrimination and that there are many wrongs that must still be made right. And they will be made right. I want to make America prosperous for everyone. I want to make this city the economic envy of the world, and we can do that, we can do that again.
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Factories everywhere, new roads and bridges, new schools, especially schools, and new hope. I have been so greatly blessed and in so many ways with no greater blessing than my family. I have a great family. Nothing would make me happier and more fulfilled than to use what I have learned in business and in traveling all over the world, I've sort of seen a lot, to bring the wealth and prosperity and opportunity to those who have not had these opportunities before, and that's many, many people in Detroit.
When I see wages falling, people out of work, I know the hardships this inflicts. And I am determined to do something about it. I will do something about it. I do get things done, I will tell you. Some people have strengths, that's one of mine. I get things done. I'm going to get things done for you.
Please know this. For any who are hurting, things are going to turn around. Tomorrow will be better, it will be much better, what the pastor and I were talking about riding up the street and we see all those closed stores and people sitting down on the sidewalk and no jobs and no activity. We'll get it turned around.
We'll get it turned around, Pastor, believe me.
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We're going to win again as a country and we're going to win again for all of our people. I want to work with you to renew the bonds of trust between citizens and the bonds of faith that make our nation strong. America's been lifted out of many of its most difficult hours through the miracle of faith and through people like Bishop Jackson and Dr. Jackson. It's so important.
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People have no idea how important they are. Now in these hard times for our country, let us turn again to our Christian heritage to lift up the soul of our nation.
I am so deeply grateful to be here today. And it is my prayer that America of tomorrow, and I mean that, that the America of tomorrow will be one of unity, togetherness and peace. And perhaps we could add the word "prosperity," OK? Prosperity.
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I'd like to conclude with a passage from 1 John 4.
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You know it? See, most groups I speak to don't know that, but we know it.
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If you want, we can say it together. No one has ever seen God, but if we love one another, God lives in us and his love is made complete in us. And that's so true.
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Thank you very much. This has been such an honor. Thank you very much.
Bishop, thank you, sir. Thank you. Thank you.
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Thank you, Bishop.
JACKSON: So he has another title now: Preacher.
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Honey, would you come a moment.
My wife and I want to give you something that's going to be a blessing to you.
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TRUMP: Thank you.
JACKSON: This is a prayer shawl straight from Israel. And with this prayer shawl -- hold this for me, please. Whenever you're flying from coast to coast, I know you just came back from Mexico and you're flying from city to city, there is an anointing. An anointing is the power of God.
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When the woman who had the issue of blood said if I can only touch the hem of Jesus's garment I'll be made whole, nothing else could help her but the power of God.
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There's going to be some times in your life that you're going to feel forsaken, you're going to feel down, but the anointing is going to lift you up.
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TRUMP: I like that.
JACKSON: I prayed over this personally and I fasted over it. And I want to just put this on you.
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TRUMP: Thank you so much.
JACKSON: This is the Jewish Heritage Study Bible. And we have it specially for you and we have one for your wife.
TRUMP: Thank you.
