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Donald Trump's Appeal to Black Voters in Detroit; Interview with Detroit Mayor Mike Duggan; Clinton's University Problem; Mother Teresa to be Sainted; Does Trump Help Indiana's Employees?; Concerns of Zika Grow in Florida. Aired 6-7p ET

Aired September 03, 2016 - 18:00   ET

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Top of the hour 6:00 p.m. eastern. I'm Poppy Harlow in New York. You're live in the CNN NEWSROOM and we begin tonight with politics and Donald Trump's appeal to black voters in Detroit. He attended a church service this morning at a predominately black church.

You see Trump there dancing and clapping beside Apprentice star, Amarosa, who is also a pastor. That was the scene inside. Let's take a look at what played out outside the church.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We've got to get Trump outta here because Trump is not right. He's a racist, he's a bigot, he's a misogynist.

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HARLOW: Some of those protestors demanding that Trump get out of their city. But despite that Trump made one of his strongest pitches yet to the African-American community telling the congregation his words were his own and straight from his heart. Let's listen.

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DONALD TRUMP, (R) PRESIDENTIAL NOMINEE: For centuries, the African- American church has been the conscience of our country. So true. It's from the pews and pulpits and Christian teachings of black churches all across this land that the civil rights movement lifted up its soul and lifted up the soul of our nation. It's from these pews that our nation has been inspired toward a better

moral character, a deeper concern for mankind, and spirit of charity and unity that binds us altogether. And we are bound together. And I see that today.

The African-American faith community has been one of god's greatest gifts to America and to its people. There is perhaps no action our leaders can take that would do more to heal our country and support our people than to provide a greater platform to the black churches and churchgoers.

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HARLOW: Trump's former rival, now supporter, Dr. Ben Carson, made the visit today with Trump. He also gave him a tour of his childhood home. Carson defended Trump's comments in the past about the black community, including Trump calling on black voters saying what do you have to lose?

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DR. BEN CARSON, TRUMP ADVISOR: Well, if you ask him about those comments, though, and allow him to explain it, you'll see he says very readily I have a lot of African-American friends who are very wealthy who do very well. And I know the majority of black people don't live that way.

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HARLOW: So in addition to reaching out to black voters in Detroit specifically, he also reached out, made an appeal to Detroit as a whole. Listen to this.

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TRUMP: I want to make America prosperous for everyone. I want to make this city the economic envy of the world. We can do that. We can do that again.

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TRUMP: Factories everywhere, new roads and bridges, new schools. Especially schools. And new hope.

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HARLOW: Joining me now is Mike Duggan. He's the Mayor of Detroit. He's also a Hillary Clinton supporter. Thank you so much for being with me tonight.

MIKE DUGGAN, MAYOR OF DETROIT: And, thanks for having me on tonight, Poppy.

HARLOW: It's good to have you. And, look, as you know, I've spent a lot of time in Detroit. Look, the people of Detroit, the schools need help. You know, businesses need help in terms of creating jobs, there's no question about that. The question is how do you best do that, right?

And I wonder, even as a Clinton supporter, are you glad to see Donald Trump come today tour that neighborhood with Dr. Ben Carson and make the remarks at the church? What's your reaction to it?

DUGGAN: The reaction is when are you going to give us a solution?

You know, anybody can say that in cities in this country we have too much poverty, we have too much crime, and the schools are in bad shape. Everybody knows that. What are you going to do about it. And still we haven't heard. And I was hoping today that Donald Trump would not just describe the problem, that he would offer some solutions. And again, it was nothing but reading somebody else's words off a page.

HARLOW: So to be fair here, he said right at the beginning of his remarks, these are my words, these are my remarks and they come from the heart.

DUGGAN: Wait. Poppy, come on -- let's be real. You saw the release here. They gave him the questions ahead of the time for the interview.

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And then even the question of do you believe in the bible he had consultants scripting his answers. So I don't believe for a second -- when you're speaking from the heart, you look at people in the eye, you talk to them directly. You don't read off a piece of paper in words that sound foreign to you.

HARLOW: And look, to be fair here, Mayor, before we move on. I mean campaigns on both sides often script talking points for their candidates ahead of interviews. But I want to move on and get to the facts here. You're a Clinton supporter, Hillary Clinton supporter. Have you heard from her and her camp specific solutions that you think would really help Detroit and give your city what it needs?

DUGGAN: Not only have I heard from her, I've spent hours in the room with her. And when you talk to Hillary Clinton, when you talk about what we need to do to get children to learn in the classroom, it's something that she's been deeply engaged in since she was young. When you talk about creating job opportunities, she has very specific plans for apprenticeships and plans for giving financial support to businesses who hire people in those apprentices. She's got specific plans to rebuild the infrastructure of this country and creating job opportunities. She's got plans for making college affordable. She has a whole range of ideas on how you take people who need a chance to move up.

HARLOW: So what -- I mean you read this op ed I'm sure in the Detroit Free Press about Trump's visit. And, part of the op ed said, look, he's not appealing to black voters. He's really just trying to convince you know, white voters that he's not racist and court their vote. Do you believe that was the cause of his trip?

DUGGAN: You know, it feels like a new season of the Apprentice. You know, he basically ran a primary campaign of bigotry and attacked all kinds of different groups. And now he realizes he can't win in the generals. So the first segment of the new season is we go down to Phoenix and talk to Latinos. And then the next segment is we go up to Detroit and talk to African-Americans.

And I will bet you you're going to see him in a Muslim community center. And then in another episode you're going to see him at a citizenship class for immigrants. It just comes off as so insincere. And, if you want to be sincere, tell us specifically what you're going to do. And, that's what we're still waiting for.

HARLOW: So, when you look at the city of Detroit, Mayor, there have been, since 1962, every Mayor of Detroit has been a Democrat. And Donald Trump in his remarks leading up to today over the past few weeks has said -- speaking to he says to African-American voters, the Democrats have failed you. I will not fail you. You need a change. What do you have to lose?

Detroit fell into bankruptcy on the watch of a Democratic Mayor. Again, Democrat since 1962. What do you say to critics who point to that, Mayor? .

DUGGAN: Absolutely. The local elected officials in Detroit bear a measure of responsibility. The manufacturing leaders who've lost a lot of our manufacturing base bear significant responsibility. We probably have got 25,000 vacant houses from the national housing crisis in 2008 and 2009 that we are dealing with today that drove people out of their homes with bad mortgages that came at the federal level. Our cities didn't get here because one person did something wrong. What's happened is that we have not as a country valued the cities. There's been federal policies from freeway expansions to low mortgages that have created a suburbanization of America. And now interestingly enough the millennials are moving back to the cities. And maybe hopefully the federal government, the state government, and local government will start to come together and say cities are important.

I know Hillary Clinton believes that. I'm still waiting to hear, a single proposal. Other than saying whose fault it is and way you should be mad. I'm still waiting a single proposal from Donald Trump on what he's going to do to help the cities.

HARLOW: You know I can attest to seeing first hand some of the incredible turn-around that is happening from these millennials, from these entrepreneurs in Detroit, I think stories that often don't get told enough and don't always make the headlines.

Before I let you go, let's talk about race. Right. You are the first white Mayor of Detroit since 1974. And, look, it is a predominantly African-American community when you talk about Detroit proper. Do you think voters in your city care less about race and more about let's just get something done. Stop talk about race, let's talk about solutions.

DUGGAN: Well, I got elected running as the very popular African- American sheriff and I got elected in a landslide. And I did it by going into the same kind of places Donald Trump went. Except instead of reading a bunch of prepared statements, I looked people in the eye and I said here's what we're going to do about the abandoned houses. Here's what we're going to do about the crime. Here's what we're going to do about the streetlights out. And people responded. And I do think that in the city now we are seeing a comeback. Jobs are coming back, people are coming back. And it's because we're embracing everybody of all religions, all colors, all backgrounds. Everybody is being welcomed in the City of Detroit right now. Even Donald Trump.

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HARLOW: Mayor Mike Duggan, thank you for taking the time to come on tonight. And, my thanks to you for talking about that. And, you know, it's always important to highlight some of the great things that are happening in Detroit that we don't always see in the headlines. So, thank you, sir.

DUGGAN: Always great to talk to you, Poppy.

HARLOW: Straight ahead, we're going to talk to a Donald Trump supporter who was in the church to hear what Trump said. We'll get that reaction ahead.

Also, Mother Teresa set to become a saint tomorrow. But there's some controversy about this. Really, there is. Why is that? We'll dig into that.

And also people in Florida begin to clean up from hurricane Hermine. Standing water causing concerns about the Zika virus there as the first case of the virus is found in mosquitos in Miami Beach. Our Dr. Sanjay Gupta will join us. You're live in the CNN NEWSROOM.

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HARLOW: All right. We just heard Detroit's Democratic Mayor criticize Donald Trump's visit to his city today. Mayor Mike Duggan said Trump did not offer specific solutions for Detroit, and that is what his city needs.

Well earlier today, Donald Trump made a visit to a predominantly black church there in Detroit and he spoke to the congregation. Afterwards, Trump accompanied one of his top advisors, Dr. Ben Carson to Carson's childhood home that is in southwest Detroit.

Let's talk about all of this and get reaction to the interview with the Mayor. Kayleigh McEnany is with me, she's a Conservative Columnist for Above the Law, and a Trump supporter.

Thank you for being here. What did you make of what Mayor Duggan said. I mean, he's a Hillary Clinton supporter, he's a Democrat. And he said I didn't hear any specifics and we need them.

KAYLEIGH MCENANY, CNN POLITICAL COMMENTATOR: Well, he has given them. Look, today in the church I think was more about uplifting the African-American community. And saying how important --

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HARLOW: -- but specifics about Detroit. That's what the mayor was saying. He hasn't given specifics about how he would help Detroit.

MCENANY: But he has given specifics about how he would help some of these blighted communities.

For instance, he talked about J-1 visas. These are visas where 1,000 foreign workers come in every year -- excuse me, 100,000, and work at seasonal jobs. He said he wants to convert those into a job bank for the inner-city. So I think that's one.

Number two, I think most importantly is school choice. We've heard him tout that over and over again in speeches. That we need to give options to students who are in failing schools. He's also talked about bringing $2.1 trillion from overseas and pumping them into these communities.

So he has given those specifics. I just think today at the church was more about saying how important the black church community has been to elevating our society as a nation.

HARLOW: So, two follow-up questions there. First one, the visa type that you're talking about, those are also the visas that were used to bring seasonal workers to Donald Trump's Palm Springs Resort.

MCENANY: They were the same visas. But he did advertise to fill those jobs. They were not filled by American citizens. So he did open it up to foreigners. That's what the law stands as now. That's the process for the J-1 visas. But he wants to eliminate the foreign worker aspect and pump those jobs specifically into inner cities.

HARLOW: Okay, let's talk about the remarks at the church. This was a different Trump that we heard certainly. It was a much softer tone, that's for sure. It was scripted remarks.

He said "I wrote these. These are from my heart." I think what Detroit's Mayor is saying is, you know, that that's that. But we need to hear and see specifics. Do you think Donald Trump Kayleigh -- would you advise him to say on his next trip to Detroit or one of these cities struggling so much, go out and spend the entire day there. Sit down at a roundtable or in a town hall with leaders and ask specifically what is your struggle and specifically what can I do?

MCENANY: I think today was a really good start. I heard one of your -- I believe a Donald Trump supporter who was sitting in the church and she said that she hopes he'll have a town hall. And I hope he will too. I think that will be a great next step to build on this.

But you know, I would contrast this to Hillary Clinton. Where was she today? I mean she's been absent from the trail for quite a few days and, Donald Trump's reaching out to these communities. He's -- he was on the ground in Louisiana on the flood zone. He was out in Mexico.

HARLOW: Okay, but the mayor pointed out a number of specifics that he has gotten from the Clinton campaign. I guess what I'm asking, is it doing enough?

MCENANY: I think so. He's given a number of specifics. I know we like to focus on the line, what do you have to lose? But if you were to sit back and watch his speech --

HARLOW: -- I don't want to focus on that. We've just played minutes of what he said in the black church. He said "this church is the conscience of our country. This is an amazing day. I'm here to learn. Our political system has failed people." He called for a new civil rights agenda focusing on jobs and education. So we're not just focusing on what do you have to lose.

MCENANY: If you were to go back and listen to his rallies over the last two weeks, you're going to hear many specifics. I have a list right here in front of me of 20 specifics that he has given in the speech. He has given specifics. I would contrast that to Hillary Clinton, who was asked by Chris Wallace, how are you going to -- what are you going to do differently from Obama to elevate the economy. And, she said she would create more green jobs.

I'm sorry, but that's not the answer for our community. You heard the mayor say that one of the problems with Detroit is manufacturing jobs have left. Well, why have they left? It's because of trade deals like TPP which Hillary Clinton previously hailed as the gold standard of trade deals.

HARLOW: So, when you look at Detroit for example, the automotive industry right. And the decline of so many jobs in the automotive industry, it is not all because of trade deals. Some certainly is. We've seen some of these factories going to Mexico. There's no question. A lot of it is because of technology and automation. And there's also a question about no matter who is president, those jobs aren't going to come back because technological advances have made them unnecessary.

MCENANY: Right. That's certainly part of it. But I think the question is whose going to be better for bringing back manufacturing jobs, Hillary Clinton or Donald Trump? And Donald Trump has made this his message from day one.

He talked about Ford moving one of his factories to Mexico. He wants to make sure that these corporate inversions don't happen where corporations move overseas but yet take advantage of our laws. And who's hurt? People in these inner cities who can't find jobs who are highly qualified to take these jobs but can't find them because they don't exist.

HARLOW: So, as our previous guest said, who you heard, Donna Brown from Cleveland, said he has to have a town hall. And she's a Trump supporter. Do you agree Kayleigh? Does he need to have a town hall? Is that the next step for African-American voters?

MCENANY: I agree with Donna completely. I think a town hall would be excellent. I think I love what we're seeing. We saw the roundtable where he listened to you know, his African-American council, which by the way he has been doing for a long time going back to the primary. This was a great step today. I agree the town hall would be a natural next step. That would be wonderful.

HARLOW: We'll see if one happens. Thank you, Kayleigh. Nice to have you on.

All right, still to come here. On the campaign trail Democratic Presidential candidate, Hillary Clinton has railed against the problems of for-profit universities with one notable exception.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: But you won't find Hillary Clinton saying one word about Laureate University. While she was traveling the world as Secretary of State, her husband was traveling the world and being paid a fortune as the Honorary Chancellor of Laureate International Universities.

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HARLOW: Why it is being called Hillary Clinton's university problem. That's next live in the CNN NEWSROOM

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HARLOW: All right. Have you heard of Laureate International Universities? If not, you might hear a lot more about it before election day.

It describes itself as "the leading global network of higher education institutions." But it's not just any university system. Bill Clinton was its honorary chancellor and its chairman has close ties to the Clinton Global Initiative.

So what does this all mean for Hillary Clinton and her run for president?

Our Senior Investigative Correspondent, Drew Griffin reports. Drew.

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DREW GRIFFIN, CNN SENIOR INVESTIGATIVE CORRESPONDENT: It's being called Hillary's university problem. It's actually Laureate International Universities, run and owned by a good friend of the Clintons. It's private, it's for-profit, and the profits are huge. Laureate operates mostly in Latin America, has a million students worldwide and brings in revenues of more than $4 billion.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE (voice-over): It all started with a powerful mission, the mission of making quality higher education accessible.

GRIFFIN: Its CEO, Clinton pal, Doug Becker made $2.4 million last year alone.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE (voice-over): The network of Laureate International Universities has grown to more than 70 educational institutions across 29 countries.

GRIFFIN: And Laureate is not without its own problems. It has faced investigations in Brazil over whether students were getting their money's worth. And in Chile concerning its for-profit status.

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U.S. students have complained. The school failed to deliver on its promised degree programs. Three of the five schools Laureate operates in the United States are under what the U.S. Department of Education calls "Heightened Cash Monitoring" because of potential problems with its financial responsibility. Though the school told CNN it disagrees with the government's methodology. It would seem like the exact type of business Hillary Clinton might have a problem with.

HILLARY CLINTON (D) PRESIDENTIAL NOMINEE: There are students who take out loans to pay for an expensive degree from a for-profit institution only to find little support once they actually enroll. Or they graduate and discover that when it comes to getting the job they were promised, their degree is not worth what they though.

GRIFFIN: But you won't find Hillary Clinton saying one word about Laureate University. While she was traveling the world as Secretary of State, her husband was traveling the world and being paid a fortune as the Honorary Chancellor of Laureate International Universities.

BILL CLINTON, FORMER U.S. PRESIDENT: I traveled to 14 Laureate universities in a dozen countries.

GRIFFIN: Bill Clinton was paid $17.6 million by Laureate from 2010 until 2015 when his contract was up and he stepped down. Several weeks after Secretary Clinton announced her bid to run for President.

DOUG BECKER, CEO LAUREATE INTERNATIONAL UNIVERSITIES: It's such an honor for us to have him as our Honorary Chancellor. But what most people don't know is that that actually started because of CGI.

GRIFFIN: Laureate with Doug Becker at the helm not only paid Bill Clinton $17.6 million, it has donated between $1 and $5 million to the Clinton Foundation and has partnered with the Clinton Global Initiative since 2008. And all along the way, Becker has contributed to democratic campaign funds, including Hillary Clinton's.

So what did Doug Becker and his Laureate International Universities get out of the $17.6 million it paid to Bill Clinton? It got a big named U.S. President as a spokesperson. It got worldwide recognition by partnering with the Clinton Global Initiative. But so far the presidential candidate who rails against the problems of for-profit universities has not mentioned Laureate International's name.

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GRIFFIN: Poppy, the Clinton campaign sent us a statement that said that "Hillary Clinton has made it clear that all for-profit institutions should be held to the same standards." And it went on to say that "she will crack down on law breaking for-profits by expanding support for federal regulators to enforce laws against deceptive marketing, fraud, and other illegal practices."

Poppy. HARLOW: Drew Griffin, thank you very much for that.

All right, coming up next.

It's a moment that Catholics around the world have long waited for. Mother Teresa is about to become a Saint. So let's talk about what that process entails and also perhaps surprisingly some controversy around this. You're live in the CNN NEWSROOM.

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HARLOW: In less than 24 hours Mother Teresa will become a Saint. Huge crowds are expected to gather tomorrow as Pope Francis holds a special ceremony at the Vatican, for the late Roman Catholic nun.

Mother Teresa as you know devoted her life to helping the poor, the sick, and the marginalized. Her charity ran hundreds of orphanages, soup kitchens, homeless shelters, and clinics around the globe.

So first off, how exactly does one become a Saint? Here's a look at how the process works.

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HARLOW (voice-over): Nearly 2,000 years after the first Pope Peter, the Catholic church has put halos on some 10,000 saints. They are the ones you've likely heard of. St. Patrick, Ireland's Patron Saint. St. Valentine, Patron Saint of Love and Engaged Couples. And thousands of others that only the most Pius may know.

The St. George, who rescued a Libyan princess from a sea monster. And St. Vladimir who had hundreds of concubines and multiple wives before he converted to Catholicism. To get the title of Saint, contenders need to pass a few tests. The first, they have to be dead. Usually for five years. But some have to wait in line a little longer.

St. Bede was declared a Saint more than 1,000 years after his death. Dying may be the easy part here. You also have to perform two miracles. Candidates must answer prayers often for medical cures from their heavenly perch.

The church believes Mother Teresa did just that, when a man with brain tumors and a woman with stomach cancer were inexplicably cured after praying with the nun.

John Paul the Second got the saintly seal when an order of nuns prayed to the former Pontiff and cured Sister Marie Simon Pierre of Parkinson's.

If there's no medical or scientific explanation for the cure, the church says you officially have a miracle on your hands. If you pass all the tests, the Pope will induct you into one of the most sacred clubs and in the very end grant you a halo.

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HARLOW: Well, after tomorrow Mother Teresa will officially be known as Saint Teresa of Calcutta. Let's talk about all of this with our religion commentator, Father Edward Beck, also a Catholic priest. Thank you for being here.

FATHER EDWARD BECK, CNN RELIGION COMMENTATOR: My pleasure.

HARLOW: Let's begin with tomorrow. So, tomorrow at the Vatican, Pope Francis will canonize Mother Teresa. What will that look like? What will that be like? How big of a deal is it?

FATHER BECK: Well for the beautification alone there were 300,000 so they're expecting hundreds of thousands. 100,000 tickets already gone. So hundreds more will line the streets for this. And it will be a mass. And the canonization ceremony itself is rather simple. It's simply naming this person as a person of virtue and holiness who now resides with god in heaven. And therefore is named a Saint.

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HARLOW: I mean If you think of perfection, you think of Mother Teresa, right? But yet there is controversy around her becoming a Saint. Why?

FATHER BECK: Yes. Well, not everybody thought she was so perfect. Now remember, she was a tough lady. And the atheist Christopher Hitchins did a documentary in 1994. He called her --"Hell's Angel is the name of the documentary. And he said you know in developing countries she spoke against abortion, against contraception. He thought that was wrong.

Her point was if those countries were doing more for the poor that would not have been an issue. But he felt that that shouldn't happen. Also she took money from corrupt dictators. Like Duvalier. And, her point was, look, he took it from the poor. If he's going to give it to me and I'm going to give it back to the poor, I'm going to do that.

So there are certain things. I mean she wasn't at the head of an NGO. She started a religious community. So she didn't live by those political rules of how it looked, how it didn't look. She didn't care how it looked.

HARLOW: She just cared about the effect on the poorest who needed it most.

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HARLOW: And what I think is interesting and you've pointed this out is the -- you know, the years. The long period of time, 50 odd years, where she lived sort of questioning god's impact on her life. Was god really with her, sort of living in darkness.

FATHER BECK: Yes, the kind of the dark knight of the soul that St. John of the Cross talks about. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

FATHER BECK: She felt that. She felt was she really doing god's work? Was he present to her? She believed, and why she did what she did, was the suffering were Christ, were Jesus. So the dying on the streets of Calcutta when she would pick those people up and take them to her hospices. She believed she was ministering to Christ. So she was criticized, she didn't have healthcare systems. She didn't have an infrastructure. But you see, that was not her point. She said I minister to Christ today. This is how I do it. Others thought she should have done it another way.

HARLOW: You have a funny story about the London supermarket. Is that right?

FATHER BECK: Yes, there are two. She went into a London supermarket with her and some of her sisters. They loaded up the carts, over $500 worth of supplies and food. They got in this long line of people. And she got to the front and said we have no money. We would like the people in the line to pay for this food because we are giving it to a good cause. She stopped the line. They looked at her like not knowing what to do. And guess what, she raised the $500 from the people in line and she paid for the food.

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FATHER BECK: The Indian government gave her a free rail ticket to travel around India. She said I would like a plane ticket too for the Indian Airline. They kind of balked at that. She said I'll do flight attendant work in order to pay passage. So it means she worked the system. She was a shrewd women. She was a tough woman. If like Benedict was god's Rottweiler, she was god's Pitbull.

HARLOW: She was god's Pitbull.

FATHER BECK: She really was. I mean --

HARLOW: --is that a title she would embrace?

FATHER BECK: No, I don't think so. I think she wouldn't have embraced that. But I think people saw her that way with a smile she got what she wanted.

HARLOW: With a smile she got what she wanted. You catch more bees with honey, right?

FATHER BECK: She certainly did and sometimes with vinegar too.

HARLOW: What -- final thought on what you remember most, what the world should remember about her as she is canonized.

FATHER BECK: That she a shooed the values of the world of power, prestige, possessions. That wasn't what she wanted. If there was a comfortable chair, she would sit in the uncomfortable one. And it wasn't to be a martyr it was to say this value is not my value. She believe she lived life according to god's values. And that's what makes her saint. That's what makes her holy. People look at her and say, how did she do that? Because it's not what our natural inclination would be.

HARLOW: And we'll see history made tomorrow at the Vatican. Thank you so much Father Edward Beck.

FATHER BECK: Thank you.

HARLOW: All right, coming up after the break. You'll remember the company Carrier because Donald Trump has talked about it a lot. It's an Indiana company. And he's talked about how to shift thousands of jobs to Mexico. Well the Labor Union failed to get behind him even as workers worried about their futures.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What they ain't telling you is what the qualifications are on some of these jobs you're creating because you've got to be able to say do you want French fries with that.

HARLOW: All right, we're going to take an in-depth look at why Trump's appeal to these workers clearly failed with that union and what's ahead for many of those people being laid off. Next.

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HARLOW: In this week's American opportunity, we head to Indiana. Republican Presidential candidate, Donald Trump made headlines when he called out furnace manufacturer Carrier for its plans to ship a lot of jobs from Indiana down to Mexico.

So CNN Money headed to Indiana to talk to the labor unions and the workers who this affects. The central question, does Trump's -- did Trump convince them? Does he have the right plan?

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Move production from our facility in Indianapolis to Monterrey, Mexico.

CRISTINA ALESCI, CNN MONEY: Indianapolis is busy, hosting convention goers and business meetings. But the historic engine of Indiana's economy turns just outside the city center. In manufacturing neighborhoods where factory workers live and union members gather in halls like this one for United Steel Workers Local 1999. This union represents some workers at Carrier, a unit of industrial giant United Technologies. You may have heard the name Carrier before.

TRUMP: Carrier. Anybody from carrier? Carrier says they're leaving. Carrier Air Conditioning. You're tired of seeing Carrier leaving your state.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes, that air-conditioning factory, they're in Indianapolis.

TJ BRAY, PRODUCTION ASSOCIATE, CARRIER: Okay we make furnaces. So someone needs to tell your P.R. guy, hey they make furnaces, they don't make air-conditioners.

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ALESCI: P.J. makes more than $20 an hour connecting the gas valve on heating furnaces found in homes across the country.

BRAY: We take pride in what we do. I mean when we see a Carrier furnace in someone's house, we're like we built that. I -- we had a hand in this. And we still do to this day even though we know this company stabbed us in the back.

ALESCI: Which T.J. says happened a few months ago.

JOE BRUMMER: It became that the clear the best way to stay competitive and protect the business long term is to move production from our facility in Indianapolis to Monterrey, Mexico.

BRAY: I mean you're taking our livelihood away. Just shocked. Shock and awe and confusion and upset. I mean I've been here 14 years.

ALESCI: The labor is much cheaper in Mexico, where minimum wage is about $4 a day.

CHUCK JONES, PRESIDENT: STEELWORKERS LOCAL 1999: The trade bill that is directly influenced on this Carrier move is NAFTA which was put in by President Bill Clinton.

ALESCI: But why do you think Carrier made the decision now?

JONES: The shareholders were having a hard time with the profits that they were getting.

ALESCI: And this is all driven by what?

JONES: Corporate greed and unfair trade.

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ALESCI: Let's take those one at a time. First, unfair trade. A rallying cry of Donald Trump's campaign.

TRUMP: The single worst trade deal ever done. It's called NAFTA.

ALESCI: But, business researcher Carol Rogers says it is not that simple.

Can we blame the free trade agreement?

CAROL ROGERS, BUSINESS RESEARCHER: I don't think so. I view that as kind of cutting off your nose to spite your face. Because then we're not going to be able to sell our stuff outside of the United States.

ALESCI: So, Trump is wrong?

ROGERS: I think so, yes.

CNN REPOTER: She points at the numbers. Exports from Indiana has doubled in 20 years. Even when adjusting for inflation. That's more than 10% of the state's economy. Plus, all those jobs the exports support. Indiana's biggest customers, Canada and Mexico.

Free trade advocates argue that you want to be selling to billions of people around the world. Not just the 320 million customers in the U.S.

JENNIFER RUMSEY, CHIEF TECHNOLOGY OFFICER, CUMMINS: International business is actually an important part of American businesses being successful.

ALESCI: Jennifer Rumsey is an executive at Cummin, a major manufacturer and employer in the state.

RUMSEY: About 70% of the product that we've produce here gets exported.

ALESCI: In terms of the places around the world where this kind of machinery, these kinds of engines could be assembled, where are they? Obviously Europe may be one region of the world. Where else?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: India. They certainly have got the capability to do that.

ALESCI: India may have really cheap labor compared to U.S. labor.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Labor is only one element of any manufacturing costs. So what is your quality, what is your efficiency rate. We can't compete with that hourly rate. No point suggesting that we could.

ALESCI: Bottom line, America has to be innovative. The country can't compete on wages alone. That means giving up certain jobs. The benefit should be cheaper goods. It's been happening for years.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I haven't seen where it makes the goods cheaper. But companies they're making more profits.

CNN REPOTER: So is it the trade deals or corporate greed that's behind Carrier's moving jobs to Mexico?

BRAY: All these people see is dollar signs.

ALESCI: The business unit that includes Carrier had an operating profit of just under $3 billion in 2015. And when CNN Money asked Carrier about the move, the company provided this statement "We must continue to protect our business in a relentlessly competitive global marketplace."

And to soften the blow, the company plans to support a slew of re- training and education opportunities for employees losing their jobs. So the question is, what will happen to the 1,400 workers at Carrier who will be laid off?

ROGERS: The economy is going to be able to absorb those workers.

ALESCI: As of July, there were more than 3,000 manufacturing job postings in Indiana, according to the state.

ROGERS: Carrier workers are really in a -- they're not going to see it this way but they're really in an advantageous slot because they qualify for the trade assistance; retraining, monetary support that goes beyond an unemployment checks.

ALESCI: Are those programs effective?

ROGERS: We tend to think that not enough people take advantage of it. I don't know why people wouldn't take advantage of it.

ALESCI: Well they must be angry and frustrated, right?

ROGERS: And I can appreciate that they're angry and frustrated, but I also think that they need to think about themselves as having skills they can improve their competitiveness.

ALESCI: Chuck is not convinced.

JONES: What they ain't telling you is what the qualifications are. On some of these jobs you're creating you've got to be able to say, do you want French fries with that?

ALESCI: And that's what a lot of this comes down to. Wages. How will working people in America make more money? And how does America ensure that everyone gets benefit out of globalization?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: When we vote. When we go out and we vote. We have to vote for our jobs.

JONES: People get caught up on issues, guns, god, and gays.

GOVERNOR MIKE PENCE (R-IN), VICE PRESIDENTIAL NOMINEE: I'll always believe that marriage is between one man and one woman.

TRUMP: We are going to be so strong with our Second Amendment. Believing in god is so important.

ALESCI: These guys are voting with their wallets.

BRAY: He said, I'm going to do this. I'm going to do that. You didn't really tell me how. I mean you say all the stuff about jobs, but I mean this guy is an entertainer. He's a clown. You know if he's so big in Carrier, where's he at? You know he's got the money, he can buy this plant. But he's not doing it.

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HARLOW: Our thanks to Christina Alesci and Jordan Malta, for that.

All right, coming up, mosquitoes carrying the Zika virus now identified in Florida.

Next our Chief medical correspondent, Dr. Sanjay Gupta on what this all means for you and what precautions you need to make. Stay with us.

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HARLOW: As tropical storm Hermine makes its way up the eastern seaboard tonight, there are growing concerns that the standing water left behind, especially in Florida, will become breeding grounds for mosquitoes carrying the Zika virus.

Mosquitoes carrying that virus were found in Miami Beach this week. It is the first discovery of Zika-caring mosquitoes in the continental United States.

Our Chief Medical Correspondent, Dr. Sanjay Gupta is with us to tell us what this means for all of us, and what it changes, Sanjay?

DR. SANJAY GUPTA, CNN CHIEF MEDICAL CORRESPONDENT: Well, Poppy, in many ways this wasn't unexpected. I think for some time we have known that there are what are known as locally transmitted cases of Zika.

And just to reiterate, what that means is that most of the people who have had Zika infections in the United States acquired those infections by traveling to a country where Zika was circulating, getting the infection, and bringing it back.

What we learned was happening in Florida over the past few weeks is that there were people who were not travel-related but still getting the Zika infection. So, and once they started to look at these people and figure out have you traveled, have you been anyone who has travelled. The answer kept coming back no. They realized at that point Poppy that in fact the Zika virus was circulating.

What they hadn't done, but again, strongly suspected they knew outright, so that there was going to be mosquitos who were carrying the Zika virus.

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What happens is the mosquito comes in bites somebody who has the Zika virus in their system, after some period of time that mosquito can then transmit the virus to somebody else. They have now found those mosquitoes. It's quite a process. They trap them, they find them and they identify the virus.

This really doesn't change anything in terms of the recommendations. It's still recommended that pregnant women don't travel to these areas unless they absolutely need to.

We're going to continue to get more information Poppy, this story is ongoing. And as we get that we'll bring it to you. Back to you for now.

HARLOW: Sanjay, thank you so much for that.

All right, coming up next, back to politics, and Donald Trump taking his message to African-American voters in Detroit today.

This was a different Donald Trump than we heard from. Softer, not the "what do you have to lose" approach, but a different pitch. And with close supporter and former presidential candidate Dr. Ben Carson by his side, you will hear what both had to say on this visit, next, live in the CNN NEWSROOM.

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HARLOW: Top of the hour, I'm Poppy Harlow in New York. We begin tonight with Donald Trump's latest appeal to African-American voters in his most direct pitch yet.

After being criticized by some initially for not focusing on minority groups, and later for speaking to black communities but not in them, well the Trump campaign took him directly to Detroit today where he attended a service at a predominantly black church.