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POPPY HARLOW, CNN ANCHOR: It was not clear at the outset whether or not Trump would address the congregation. But he did, he spoke to the congregation in words he said were his own and words he said were straight from the heart. Listen.
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DONALD TRUMP, (R) PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: Nothing is more sad than when we sideline young black men with unfulfilled potential, tremendous potential. I met some people this morning that were incredible people, and they're looking for jobs. These are incredible people, young people. Our whole country loses out when we're unable to harness the brilliance and the energy of these folks.
We're one nation. And when anyone hurts, we all hurt together, and that's so true, so true.
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TRUMP: We're all brother and sisters. And we're all created by the same god. We must love each other and support each other. And we are in this all together. All together. I fully understand that the African-American community has suffered from discrimination and that there are many wrongs that must still be made right. They will be made right.
I want to make America prosperous for everyone. I want to make the city the economic envy of the world. We can do that. We can do that again.
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TRUMP: Factories everywhere, new roads and bridges, new schools. Especially schools. And new hope. I have been so greatly blessed and in so many ways with no greater blessing than my family, and a great family. Nothing would make me happier and more fulfilled than to use what I have learned in business and in travelling all over the world. I've sort of seen a lot. To bring the wealth and prosperity and opportunity to those who have not had these opportunities before. And that's many, many people in Detroit. When I see wages falling, people out of work, i know the hardships
this inflicts. And I am determined to do it. I will do something about it. I do get things done. I will tell you. Some people have strengths. That's one of my -- I get things done. I'm going to get things done for you.
Please know this. For any who are hurting, things are going to turn around. Tomorrow will be better it will be much better. The pastor and I were talking about riding up the street, and we see all those clothes stores and people sitting down on the sidewalk, and no jobs and no activity. We'll get it turned around. We'll get it turned around, pastor. Believe me.
We're going to win again as a country. And we're going to win again for all of our people. I want to work with you to renew the bonds of trust between citizens and the bonds of faith that make our nation strong.
America has been lifted out of many of its most difficult hours through the meteorologist of faith and through people Bishop Jackson and Dr. Jackson. So important. People have no idea how important they are. Now in these hard times for our country, let us turn again to our Christian heritage to lift up the soul of our nation.
I am so deeply grateful to be and it is my prayer that America of tomorrow, and I mean that, that the America of tomorrow will be one of unity, togetherness, and peace. And perhaps we can add the word prosperity, okay? Prosperity.
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HARLOW: All right, while Donald Trump spoke about unity inside, this was the scene outside from protesters.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: No trump! No trump! No Trump! No Trump! No Trump! No Trump!
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HARLOW: Those protesters demanding that Trump leave their city. Let's talk about all of it with our political panel.
Trump supporter Andre Bauer, is with us, he's a former Lieutenant Governor of South Carolina. And also with us is Basil Smikle, Executive Director of the New York State Democratic Party, and also former senior aide to Clinton while she was a senator.
Thank you both for being here, I appreciate it very much.
ANDRE BAUER, CNN POLITICAL COMMENTATOR: Thank you.
BASIL SMIKLE, EXEC. DIR. NEW YORK STATE: Thank you.
HARLOW: And let's begin with this. Look, Andre, this comes as his poll numbers with African-Americans are not strong.
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He's polling at 2%. Clinton is at 87%. He's even polling behind the third party candidates for president. 60 days out or so, is it too late to get enough African-Americans on board supporting Trump to make a meaningful material difference at all?
BAUER: Absolutely not. You know I hear people criticize him because it's too late, because he hadn't been in the communities. You know they continue to criticize him in the old words of Teddy Roosevelt, the man in the arena, you've got one candidate that's out there every day, making multiple stops on the campaign trail, putting himself out there, trying to express suggestions, ideas and willing to listen to others.
And the other campaign, it's a candidate that's in hiding. We can't find them. We need Hillary watch.
So you know, I don't know why you would criticize anybody that's putting themselves out there and trying to get a better understanding of people that are suffering. It's so great for Donald Trump that he's making an effort to do an outreach. I'm thankful that he is. And I think he's grown a lot as a person as he does it.
HARLOW: Look Basil, does he have a point that Donald Trump went, he went to Detroit, he went to Mexico, went to Louisiana after the flooding?
SMIKLE: Well, first of all, Hillary is not in hiding, I don't know where that narrative comes from, but she's not in hiding.
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SMIKLE: Now to answer your question directly. Poppy, look, I never begrudged any candidate, particularly someone running for the President of the United States to go to the African-American community to campaign for their support. And, it went down exactly as I thought it would.
He had a very scripted speech and the community in which he spoke were very respectful of him being there.
Now, what happens after this? Does he come with actual substance about how he's going to engage the community afterwards and with jobs, with things that are affecting our community disproportionately.
Number two, can we actually trust him? All of the things that were in his history, going back to the Central Park Five and how he talked about race at that time. The discriminatory practices of his business. Can he actually address that head on and give African-American voters the opportunity to trust him again? I don't think we can do that, I don't think he could do that, and I certainly don't think that that can happen two -- just over months from election day. He had every opportunity to do that a year ago. And he's doing it now? It seems just a little cynical to me. BAUER: But he's in a primary, Basil.
SMIKLE: So -- and that doesn't preclude him from going to visit black voters.
BAUER: No, but he was fighting with 16 other --
SMIKLE: -- right, I mean minority voters --
HARLOW: Andre, what's your -- what's your point with that? What's your point?
BAUER: I mean there's a multitude of different populations. He's in a 16-way primary. He went and worked his way to get through a primary.
SMIKLE: Which means to me that it's more calculated than actually honest and sincere.
BAUER: It's amazing to criticize one candidate when the other candidate's doing nothing. I'm just -- I'm baffled that how you can criticize --
SMIKLE: Well, she's got a record in the black community.
HARLOW: Let me jump in here, let me jump in here. I want you both to listen to what --
BAUER: She'll actually go through that record pretty good.
HARLOW: I want you both to listen to what Mayor Mike Duggan, the Democratic Mayor of Detroit said to me last hour. Let's play that.
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MAYOR MIKE DUGGAN, (D) DETROIT: The reaction is when are you going to give us a solution. You know, anybody can say that in cities in this country we have too much poverty, we have too much crime, and the schools are in bad shape. Everybody knows that. What are you going to do about it. And still we haven't heard. And I was hoping today that Donald Trump would not just describe the problem, that he would offer some solutions. And if you want to be sincere, tell us specifically what you're going to do, and that's what we're still waiting for.
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HARLOW: Andre, to you, that comes from the Democratic Mayor, a Hillary Clinton supporter. He said Clinton has offered a number of specifics. He didn't hear those from Trump. Would you like to see your candidate put more specifics out there when it comes to Detroit if he's going to make this visit say I would do x, y, and z for your city specifically?
BAUER: Well he has. He's said things like school choice which empower people.
HARLOW: But he hasn't -- just to be clear here, he hasn't talked specifically about those solutions as they relate to Detroit in particular. That's what I'm asking.
BAUER: Not directly to just Detroit. He's talked more broadly about a way to empower so many communities that are suffering. And he also said hey, I'm coming here to listen, I want to hear your concerns. And so again, you know you hear Democrats criticizing him. And I saw a small crowd outside the church, it didn't look like even that big a crowd. But you've got a candidate making an effort to hear concerns, to give solutions, to talk about putting a businessperson in there that can help create jobs, help create a better economic environment. To create things like school choice opportunities, where they don't have to go to a failing school, they can go to a school that actually gives them and empowers them to improve their lives, not just be held down, by continuing the government to just say we're going to take care of you and prop you up, but not really ever give you the vision or the direction to get yourself in a better solution.
HARLOW: So Basil, let's get to that right. Because I've been covered Detroit closely, I've been going there a lot for the last seven years, and I've seen the deterioration of the school system in Detroit. I mean they were literally running out of money this year to pay their teachers. When you look at the history, and the Mayor even said, look, the city has run into hard times on the watch of Democrats.
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HARLOW: You've had Democrats Mayors in Detroit since 1962. The city went bankrupt on the watch of Democrats leading the city. Does Trump have a point when he says, try me, what do you have to lose Basil?
SMIKLE: Well, we have a lot to lose. And we've seen why we have a lot to lose. But to address your point more directly; there are two things that I think we should pay close attention to. Number one, that even as Donald Trump runs as a Republican, he has yet to criticize his Republican colleagues for the role that they have played in how cities have been damaged, how schools have been damaged in our communities.
And I think that's a very important point that Donald Trump has yet to actually address head on. And the second point that I would make is that the community, even a South African-American community, and I'm not an arbiter for what is black and what isn't in the African- American community. But let's just say from a political standpoint, there are nuances in the community that he has yet to prove to me and to others that he actually understands. Because we can talk about failing schools and crime, because those are statistics that I think Republicans love to pull up about black people. But they don't talk about how those making over $75,000 have doubled in the last 40 years. Those making over 100,000 quadrupled over the last 40 years.
So there are nuances in the community where you actually have to go in and learn and work. And, my question is, two months from the election, why is he doing this just now?
HARLOW: So Andre, I think that begs the question, and two of my guests tonight, Trump supporters, have said all right, what he needs to do next is hold a town hall with African-American voters. What he needs to do next is really double down on this. Do you as a Trump supporter -- is that what you would like to see? How does he further this outreach effectively?
BAUER: Look, I'm not here to tell him how to run his campaign. But what I am seeing is someone making a conscious effort to say, look, I want to work with you, I think you need federal funds to come in here and clean up some of the problems you have. To help get you out of the ditch. At least you have a businessperson, not another government -- 40 year government bureaucrat that's been saying the same thing for the last 40 years. That we're going to save you and nothing's been done.
HARLOW: But, you're advocating for more federal -- you're advocating for more spending in the state. Which is not exactly a -- you know what you would expect from a Republican.
BAUER: What he -- I'm not advocating, I'm telling you what Donald Trump actually said. And he said they need to have federal funds. And if it's improving schools, if it's empowering people, if it's giving them a trade school, if it's giving them an opportunity to become stewards and taxpayers and people that add to the community, in the end that actually builds into the whole system that funds the government. We don't want people that are continually for the rest of their lives going to have to be dependent on the government. We want people that we can empower that have opportunity.
HARLOW: So Basil, what do you say to those who look at Detroit and say Democrats have failed this city? To that argument, what would you say?
SMIKLE: Well, you know, look, I would say that Detroit has had a problem that goes well beyond just the politics of a Democrat being in office. It's also about Republican governors. It's also about the fact that the business community -- that the business community, you know, African-Americans in the business community there and in other places have had -- have had trouble.
And, we have to do more, and I mean "we" meaning sort of I think all of us, and particularly our candidates, have to do more, to do things like additional job training, apprenticeship programs. Those are things that actually Hillary Clinton is talking about. How you retrain some of these workers to get the new jobs.
BAUER: She's been in leadership and it hasn't happened.
HARLOW: You know -- you know -- what fascinates -- what's been fascinating to see guys, as politicians fight you know back and forth about this, is a lot of private sector businesses, a lot of big corporations have gone and poured a lot into Detroit to do exactly that sort of job training. Final thought to you, Andre.
BAUER: Again, you've got somebody out there working it. The other person is over in Montauk I think sipping mint juleps with Bon Jovi raising money --
SMIKLE: -- that's unfair.
HARLOW: What's your point -- Andre, what's your --
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HARLOW: Hold on, Andre --
BAUER: -- and he's given suggestions and solutions --
HARLOW: -- wait, wait, wait --
BAUER: -- and he's listening and he's trying to get engaged.
HARLOW: Andre, what's your point to saying Hillary Clinton -- you said she's in the Hamptons. I don't know that she's in the Hamptons right now. But Donald Trump lives on Fifth Avenue, what's your point?
BAUER: All of her --
SMIKLE: Three miles from Harlem, where he hasn't been, by the way.
BAUER: All of her supporters criticize him because he's there working, and she's no-where to be found. You've got one candidate that's going in the very places they said he wouldn't go, he's there. And the other candidate, you can't find them. They're not in Louisiana, they're not in Detroit, they're only at fundraisers.
SMIKLE: You cannot convince me that Hillary Clinton -- you will not be able to convince me -- you will not be able to convince me that Hillary Clinton is afraid to go any place that Donald Trump will go. You will never convince me of that.
BAUER: We can't even get her to do a press conference and take questions.
HARLOW: All right, it has been more than 270 days since Hillary Clinton has held a press conference.
Andre Bauer, Basil Smikle, thank you very much. Important conversation to have, I appreciate it.
BAUER: Thanks, Poppy, thanks Basil.
SMIKLE: Thank you.
HARLOW: Coming up, one of Donald Trump's top advisors says his candidate does have detailed plans for cities like Detroit. Dr. Ben Carson says Trump is, " anxious to get started and knows exactly where to begin." You'll hear that plan, next
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HARLOW: Donald Trump this morning visiting Detroit, targeting his campaign message specifically to African-Americans. A group whose support for Trump stands at 2% in the latest polls.
Trump made a point to visit the boyhood home of his former rival and now his supporter Dr. Ben Carson. It is in a part of Detroit that Carson said is not prospering. Carson spoke one on one with our Jeremy Diamond in Detroit about it all this morning. Listen. (BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)
DR. BEN CARSON, (R) FORMER PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: He had an opportunity to speak with several people. More importantly, he had an opportunity to see, you know, some of the parts of the city that are not prospering. And, you know, a chance to talk to some of those people, as well as at the church. And I think it just fortifies, you know, every time I've talked to him about Detroit and about the problems in the inner city, he gets very, very animated. He's very anxious to do something about it.
JEREMY DIAMOND, CNN CORRESPONDENT: What is his plan exactly, to address crime in inner cities? Because, I've heard him on the stump, and he talks about jobs back -- bringing jobs back and all that stuff. But it doesn't seem like there's enough concrete specifics.
CARSON: Well, there's not a one specific thing. It's a host of things. For instance, you know, using a lot of the trillions of dollars that are overseas, repatriating that money, incentivizing it to come back. And then using a portion of it, because the stipulation would be, we're not going to tax you, but 10% of it has to be used, enterprise zones, to create jobs for people who are unemployed, underemployed, or on welfare.
And really, what that does is twofold. First of all it would be the biggest stimulus package since FDR's new deal. Number two, it gets businesses and corporations once again interested in reaching out to the communities and helping people in the communities. Which is what they used to do before the government took over it. And, you know the government has plenty on its hands without doing things that we the people should be doing for each other.
DIAMOND: Right, so it seems like what you have, what Donald Trump has is an economic plan right, for the country. But is there something specific that he needs to do to address the problems that are very different in the inner cities of America that's more than just stimulating economic growth in the country?
CARSON: Well, a large part of the problem is economics. You know, it's like in a marriage. You know, what are the things -- the two things that make marriages go bad? Economics and sex. Well, we'll take the sex out of it. But economics, you know, it's the same kind of thing, you know, for a society. When things become tense economically it creates a lot of other problems that don't need to be there.
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CARSON: And, you know, you look at a city like Detroit, which was once a hub of innovation, and entrepreneurial risk-taking and capital investment and you look at what's happened to it because of the enormous number of regulations that stifle that creativity. And that's not helpful to us as a nation. You know, we Americans have always been creative people. The can-do attitude. We don't want to trade that for the "what can you do for me" attitude, because that always runs out. You know, all the societies that have gone that way end up looking the same way. Where the small group of elites at the top who control everything. A rapidly diminishing middle class, and a vastly expanded dependent class. We don't need that.
DIAMOND: When Donald Trump talks about poverty in the inner cities, and he talks about crime in the inner cities, he describes a world in which you say, you know, you walk out your door and you can get shot. And his solution to that is more police. That's what he said, is bringing more police into the communities. Is that enough?
CARSON: Well, that's one of the -- that's one of the things that you've heard. But the thing that you haven't maybe concentrated on is him talking about providing the right kind of education and educational choices for people. Because that changes the trajectory in their lives.
You haven't yet heard him talking about what kinds of things we need to do in order to strengthen the family. Because see a lot of these young men in inner cities like this they grew up in single parent homes, with no father figure. That creates problems because people frequently don't learn how to react appropriately to authority.
And the first authority figure that they meet is a policeman or someone who's better than they are. In either case, it don't work out well. And frequently they really never even had a chance. We need to have policies that bring families together.
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HARLOW: Dr. Ben Carson speaking there with our Jeremy Diamond.
All right. On Monday night here, Labor Day, 8:00 p.m. eastern, a CNN special report takes an in-depth look at the lives of the two major candidates for President, Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump. Here's a sneak peek.
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HILLARY CLINTON, (D) PRESIDENTIAL NOMINEE: I accept your nomination.
TRUMP: For the presidency of the United States.
ANNOUNCER: The Essential Hillary Clinton.
CLINTON: We are stronger together in charting a course toward the future.
ANNOUNCER: The Essential Donald Trump.
TRUMP: I love you. And we will make America great again.
ANNOUNCER: All on one blockbuster night. Clinton has been called the most famous person no one knows.
CHELSEA CLINTON, HILLARY CLINTON'S DAUGHTER: I never understand that. It's so clear to me who my mother is. She never forgets who she's fighting for. And she's fighting first and foremost for children and for families.
ANNOUNCER: Trump has a passion for business and the spotlight.
DONALD TRUMP JR., DONALD TRUMP'S SON: No-one's going to outwork him. No one's got more energy than him.
IVANKA TRUMP, DONALD TRUMP'S DAUGHTER: He's always said to us, find what it is that you're passionate about and pursue it with your full heart.
ANNOUNCER: Their stories from the people who know them best. A CNN Special Report. Hillary Clinton at 8:00. Donald Trump at 10:00. CNN. Labor Day.
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HARLOW: Tonight at 8:00 p.m. eastern right after the show, a new CNN film follows a man in search of a spiritual awakening. His name, Will Allen, and he gave up his life and his family to join the Buddha field.
Well now some former members calling it a cult, one that is still active today in Hawaii. Our Kyung Lah travelled there for a closer look.
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KYUNG LAH, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Amid the idyllic beauty of Oahu, behind the secluded home, draped for privacy sits one of the residences connected to a mysterious spiritual group to which Murti Hower once belonged.
MURTI HOWER, FORMER MEMBER: I gave 25 years of my life to this and I woke up and really I was dupe.
LAH: Hower's former group is the subject of the film airing on CNN called "HOLY HELL." It offers a decades-long look at a spiritual community that went from Los Angeles to Austin, Texas, and now thrives with more than 100 followers in Hawaii. Led by an eccentric and charismatic guru who goes by multiple aliases. He's often seen throughout the documentary wearing nothing but speedos. His face, former followers say, distorted by apparent plastic surgery and surrounded by adoring followers like Hower.
HOWER: We call it a cult. That's the best word to describe it. After you get out it's a cult. Of course they would say we're not a cult. They would say they're just wakening up. You know.
LAH: But without a doubt, for you it is?
HOWER: Oh, it's a totally a cult.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You could only comprehend what this means to finally have god be with you, to you in its purest form. LAH: Followers sought a higher being, giving up their time, their
relationships, their money. But the most damaging allegation in the film is that the leader coerced male followers into sexual relationships.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He started running you through homosexual fantasies.
LAH: Chris Johnston says he was in a five year sexual relationship with the leader.
CHRIS JOHNSTON, FOLLOWER: You always say yes to the master, because the master is the light, is the -- is the one who is bringing the experience of god here.
LAH: He hasn't had any criminal charges filed against him that we could find.
HOWER: They're well aware of how to stay in the law. And when you tell the police the police only say, we don't have any evidence that we can go on.
LAH: Is the group hiding?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: No.
LAH: (Gentry Petsil) says he left the group a year ago but remains close friends with the leader. Petsil says he's afraid of the backlash from the film. He calls the leader a benevolent guru.
(GENTRY PETSIL): He taught me how to love myself, he taught me how to love other people. He allowed me to be loved by other people.
LAH: In your personal experience today, do you believe that he is a predator?
(PETSIL): No, not even close. These are like long term relationships.
LAH: Is it possible that they gave up their power and then he ate it up and he manipulated them?
(PETSIL): You're asking me if it's possible. I don't feel that people should believe that they don't have a choice. You always have a choice.
JOHNSTON: This idea that there can even be consent in that environment is ludicrous. Because the power different is so great.
LAH: Through two followers CNN requested an interview with the leader. He declined to speak on camera, choosing to remain secluded amid this island's beauty away from the ugly allegations.
HOWER: What I lost is basically my identity for the longest time. And to me, that's why the menace needs to stop.
[19:30:05] LAH: People currently within the group maintain that the sexual relationships were consensual between adults. Now the leader did send us a written comment calling the film devastating and heartbreaking for him. He writes ""Holy Hell" is not a documentary, rather, it is a work of fiction designed to create drama, fear, and persecution, knowing that is what sells. If any of my actions were a catalyst for their disharmony, I am truly sorry."
Kyung Lah, CNN, Los Angeles.
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HARLOW: "HOLY HELL" airs at the top of the hour, in just about 30 minutes, right here on CNN.
Next, for us more questions for Hillary Clinton as the FBI report on her e-mail server is released.
What does it mean for her campaign going forward? We're going to dig in to the legal aspects of it all next.
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HARLOW: I do not recall. Hillary Clinton gave that answer or a form of that answer at least 39 times during her interview with the FBI about her use of a private e-mail server. Donald Trump quick to pounce.
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TRUMP: When you look at what they've done with respect to this -- these FBI notes, where she didn't know what the letter "c" was, you know, that's a lie, unless she's not an intelligent person. That's a total lie.
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HARLOW: What exactly do the newly released documents show us? Our Joe Johns reports.
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JOE JOHNS, CNN CORRESPONDENT: The FBI's formerly classified report on its investigation into Hillary Clinton's private e-mail server reveals there was a lot that she said she could not remember when being questioned by agents.
The report indicates 39 different times Mrs. Clinton said there were things she did not recall or remember, according to the FBI's notes on her interview. The documents providing insight into why the FBI did not recommend charging Clinton.
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JAMES COMEY, FBI DIRECTOR: Although we did not find clear evidence that Secretary Clinton or her colleagues intended to violate laws governing the handling of classified information. There is evidence that they were extremely careless in the handling of very sensitive highly classified information.
JOHNS: In her more than three-hour interview with the FBI, Clinton could not recall any briefing or training by state related to the handing of classified information. Clinton said she relied on her aides to use their judgment when e-mailing her and could not recall anyone raising concerns about information sent to her private account.
She also said she did not know that a "c" marking on a document meant that it was classified, and even asked interviewing agents for clarification. Some of the classified e-mails that caused the most trouble for Clinton discuss the CIA's covert drone program, which should never be discussed on any unclassified e-mail systems.
The report says Clinton stated deliberation over a future drone strike did not give her concern regarding classification.
But one of the things Mrs. Clinton seemed conclusive about was her motivation. She told the FBI she used her personal e-mail server for convenience and not to evade freedom of information laws. Attorney General Loretta Lynch followed the FBI's recommendation and passed on prosecuting Clinton, who eventually admitted using a private e-mail server was a mistake.
CLINTON: I would certainly not do that again. That is something that at the time, I, as even Director Comey said, seemed like a convenience but it was the wrong choice.
JOHNS: Donald Trump wasted no time seizing on the release, saying, "Hillary Clinton's answers to the FBI about her private e-mail server defy belief. I was absolutely shocked to see that her answers to the FBI stood in direct contradiction to what she told the American people."
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HARLOW: Joe Johns reporting. And now that the details of Hillary Clinton's FBI interview about that private e-mail server have been released, what if anything does this change? What does it mean for the candidate, what does it mean for her campaign?
We want some legal knowledge on all of this, CNN Legal Analyst Danny Cevallos joins me now from Coral Springs, Florida. Danny, looking at this, Clinton saying according to this report, at least 39 times that she does not recall when the FBI asked her questions about the server and her activities on it. As a lawyer, what do you make of that? Does that sound like her attorney's advice? What do you make of that 39 times?
DANNY CEVALLOS, CNN LEGAL ANALYST: Well, I have looked at the 302. And, it's entirely possible that while the FBI agents or special agents were showing her document after document, it is possible that she simply doesn't recall the circumstances under which a particular e-mail on a certain day was sent and the surrounding facts. So that may be what we're seeing.
It could also be the advice of counsel. You really can't tell from the FBI 302, which is a summary of an interview. It's not a verbatim interview, it never is. So that's really the information we have to go on, because it wasn't recorded.
HARLOW: I think that's such an important point. The 302, these forms, are a summary, summary notes that one of the FBI agents took during the 3 1/2 hour meeting, not a verbatim right, because it wasn't recorded. And I guess that begs the question Danny, why was it not recorded? You would think that would just be standard procedure.
CEVALLOS: In fact you would be surprised, it's only been about two years since the Department of Justice made it its new policy to generally record interviews with persons in custody.
Now, it's not a hard rule, but it's a preference. And you should add, of course, that Hillary Clinton was not in custody in the traditional sense of custody. So there was no requirement to record it. But it does surprise many people as a criminal defense attorney, we've long complained that the FBI, it would benefit everybody if they simply recorded all of their interviews. But then again, to be fair on the other side, from a law enforcement perspective, law enforcement argues that if you record the interviews, it destroys building rapport with a witness, and it can impede the overall investigation.
So, you know, there's merit on both sides of the argument. But people are surprised to find the federal DOJ's policy has only been for about two years, a new policy to record these kinds of interviews.
HARLOW: I should note though Danny, I mean as Secretary of State, while Clinton was Secretary of State, an e-mail went out, you know, under her name, whether she herself sent it or someone else, it went out under her name telling state department employees not to use private e-mail accounts, just to use the government account that they're given. Does that change anything legally? Is it just really bad optics?
CEVALLOS: It's probably bad optics. But at this stage, the documents that were released Friday, we know on the criminal side, the Department of Justice will not be prosecuting. This is unusual because for most of the defendants out there or would-be defendants, they don't get a press conference telling them hey, we, the federal government, are not going to prosecute you. Instead suspects have to wait it out until the end of the statute of limitations.
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CEVALLAS: So we know there's probably no criminal case here. But it remains to be seen whether civil law was violated in the form of the Federal Records Act. Which is generally a law that requires preservation of government documents for posterity.
HARLOW: Right. And we know that thousands of her e-mails were deleted by an unnamed person, according to the documents that have been released. But again, the Federal Records Act, if indeed it was violated, not a criminal offense, but there could be civil -- civil charges . Danny Cevallas, thank you very much, important perspective, joining us tonight. All right, coming up, President Obama holding talks with the President
of Turkey on the sidelines of the G-20 Summit.
This will be their first face-to-face since that failed coup in Turkey to overthrow President Erdogan. In a global television exclusive our Fareed Zakaria asked the President about whether he is concerned about the instability in such an important NATO ally right now.
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BARACK OBAMA, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: We haven't seen a diminishing effect on our security relations. They are working with us to defeat ISIL. And are an important partner or a whole range of security issues in the region. But, no doubt what is true that they've gone through a political and civil earthquake in their country. And they've got rebuild. And how they build is going to be important. And, what we want to do is indicate to them that the degree to which we support the Turkish people. But like any good friend, we want to give them honest feedback if we think that the steps they're taking are going to be contrary to their long term interests and our partnership.
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HARLOW: You can see Fareed's entire interview of President Obama tomorrow morning at 10:00 a.m. eastern for a special edition of "FAREED ZAKARIA GPS."
Coming up, fighting violence with the power of music. The Black Eyed Peas remix of an old favorite "Where is the Love" with a message for all of us. I'll speak with the band next.
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HARLOW: 475. Think about that number for a minute. That's how many people have been murdered in Chicago so far this year alone. It is just under Chicago's total murders in all of 2015 and it's only September.
In August of this year, 90 people were killed in the city. The rampant violence in Chicago and around the world convinced the Black Eyed Peas to reunite for a cause.
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HARLOW: All four members of the Peas got back together for a remix of their 2003 hit song "Where is the Love." It is part of a star-studded campaign to stop violence, especially gun violence, and hate. Look.
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HARLOW: The video features famous faces from Puff Daddy to Mary J. Blige to Wiz Khalifa, Corine Abdul Jabbar, and many others. It also show cases relatives of shooting victims like the aunt of Alton Sterling, the black man killed by police outside a Baton Rouge convenience store.
Money raised from the song will go to the I Am Angel Foundation that focuses on educational programs for kids most in need. Earlier tonight I spoke with three members of the Peas. Will I Am, Taboo, Apl De Ap. Listen.
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WILL.I.AM, FRONTMAN, THE BLACK EYED PEAS: Well, all the proceeds go to education. I have an afterschool program in east Los Angeles. I started it about six years ago with Lorraine Jobs, where we get kids on track to go to college and then we surround that program with robotics, computer science. We send them to China to learn Mandarin and Cantonese. And these kids were like failing in a poverty stricken area. This year we had our first year class that graduated. 100% of our students went off to a four-year college.
TABOO, THE BLACK EYED PEAS: Thank you. I'm glad that you said that it was one of your favorite songs. When we recorded it in 2003, it was at the heels of 9/11. And, so many questions we were asking amongst each other. But one of the main questions was where is the love.
So 13 years later, we joined forces with a lot of great people, not just celebrities but also clergymen, councilmembers, community members, people that lost family members. And, the whole thing was how do we give back and show the love that we have for humanity. And, I'm really glad that we were able to strike a chord again with this 2016 revision of the song.
HARLOW: Will, to you, you guys partnered with a mapping company and a data company, and what it found, absolutely fascinated me in terms of the cities and the parts of cities facing the most gun violence. What was the net result of that?
WILL.I.AM: So the net result is really to just make people remember and pay attention to, you know, how these cities are configured. Like Brentwood, where I went to elementary school, a kid got $11,000 for their education. The neighborhood that I live in, if I was to stay there got $4,000 for their education. And just to have these maps so people could just see how much money we spend on, you know, education versus incarceration is absurd. Because it's those same kids that had the low investment on education that end up incarcerated. If only we had protected them and gave them you know, proper and equal education at an early age, they wouldn't have ended up in jail.
APID.DE.AP: You know, we're just asking everyone to participate and break the cycle and do your part in spreading love, communication before striking. You know, it's about really having a dialogue and communicating with the officers, the civilians. And, we just need to really spread love in our daily lives.
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HARLOW: All right, my thanks to the Peas for joining me. You can find out a lot more about the charities that they're working with at whereisthelove.com.
Straight ahead here for us, 45 minutes of terror.
A family's boat capsizes off the coast of Florida. A 2-year-old girl missing. Hear the remarkable story of how a group of first responders saved her life.
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HARLOW: A heart-stopping 45 minutes off the coast of Florida after a family's boat capsizes. The parents and one child find safety, but they're unable to find their 2-year-old daughter. Officers rush to the scene and went beyond the call of duty to rescue her.
Our Nick Valencia has their story.
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NICK VALENCIA, CNN CORRESPONDENT: It's Friday night near Cocoa Beach, Florida, and Brian Bossard and his wife, Tammy are in trouble.
UNIDENTIFED MALE: I need the ETA on the dive team, can anybody advise ETA on the dive team?
VALENCIA: Police infrared video shows the parents standing on their capsized boats minutes before they accidently hit a guide wire in the water causing their boat to flip. Their 7-month-old baby Charlotte is safe in mom's arms, but their nearly 2-year-old daughter Kennedy is nowhere in sight.
TAMMY BOSSARD: I'm in the river. My boat crashed and I have a baby still in the water. Please God send someone now.
VALENCIA: Lucky for the Bossard's these three Coco police department officers got the call.
Matthew Rush is the first one on the scene.
MATTHEW RUSH, COCO POLICE DEPARTMENT: The first thing that goes through your mind is it's not going to be good.
VALENCIA: He strips his uniform, jumps from a pier into the water, and heads to find the missing baby. He's joined by Corporal Alan Worthy, and Sergeant Michael Delatour in the department's boat.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We're looking. And we can't find anyone. We're finding debris.
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VALENCIA: The desperate search lasts for nearly an hour. Officers make multiple dives searching for Kennedy.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I'm not expecting a good outcome of this. You know, I'm preparing to find a 2-year-old that may not be in good shape.
VALENCIA: And just when hope begins to fade --
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I head right up to the boat. I listen for a second and I heard her make a noise. It was more like a whimper or a soft cry. At that point I told Sergeant Delatour, she's under the boat, we've got her.
VALENCIA: Officer Rush dives in one more time.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And the next thing I see is just this child exploding up out of the water from the pressure from being pulled up with the life jacket on.
VALENCIA: Baby Kennedy survives floating in an air pocket under the boat for 45 minutes. She escapes with only minor cuts and bruises. Her parents call it a miracle.
BRIAN BOSSARD, FATHER: It's our world. These girls are our world. And we -- you know, without one of them, we just didn't know what we would do. You know. We can't thank them enough.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It's what we do. It's another day at Cocoa PD.
Nick Valencia, CNN Cocoa, Florida.
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HARLOW: A heart-breaking end tonight to a 27-year-old mystery.
A Minnesota sheriff saying tonight that the remains of Jacob Wetterling have been found.
He was only 11 years old when he was kidnapped at gunpoint in Minnesota in 1989. He had been riding his bike home with his brother and a friend after they got a movie and a snack at a convenience store. His mother tells us our hearts are broken. There are no words.
After Jacob's abduction, his parents formed the Jacob Wetterling Resource Center to end all forms of child abuse. And today in a statement the center said this. "We are in deep grief. We didn't want Jacob's story to end this way. In this moment of pain and shock, we go back to the beginning. The Wetterlings had a choice to walk into bitterness and anger or to walk into a light of what could be, a light of hope. Their choice changed the world.
Our thoughts are with the entire Wetterling family, tonight. I'm Poppy Harlow in New York, I'll see you back here tomorrow. Good night.
