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[11:00:17] BECKY ANDERSON, HOST: The Russian and American presidents meet, but no
breakthrough on Syria at the G20 as there is more violence in the country.
More on the failed diplomatic effort and the latest bombings just ahead.
Also this hour, exclusive new details on the way ISIS plans its attacks against the west, and the sophisticated network that helps terrorists hit
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Well, a very warm welcome to Connect the World at just after 7:00 in the evening here in Abu Dhabi. I'm Becky Anderson.
Well, the G20 summit is wrapping up in China, ending days of talks largely focused on global
economic issues. But as we so often see it, these kinds of meetings, some of the biggest headlines come from what happened on the sidelines.
Well, U.S. President Barack Obama and the Russian President Vladimir Putin had some one-on-one time today. They met for 90 minutes with Syria
dominating the conversation.
Well, the leaders agreed more talks are needed after they failed to reach any cease-fire deal.
Here is how President Obama described the impasse.
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BARACK OBAMA, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: We have had some productive conversations about what a real cessation of hostilities would look like
that would allow us both, the United States and Russia, to focus our attention on common enemies like ISIL and Nusra. But given the gaps of
trust that exist, that's a tough negotiation.
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ANDERSON: Well, Mr. Obama is now on his way to Laos for a summit of Southeast Asian leaders. He'll make history when his plane touches down
there as the first sitting U.S. president to ever visit that country.
Let's get more on what lies ahead in Laos as well as details of that meeting between Mr. Obama and Russia's president at the G20.
Fred Pleitgen is live for you tonight in Moscow and Andrew Stevens is in the capital of Laos.
Fred, let's start with you -- candid, blunt and business-like was how President Obama described his meeting with his Russian counterpart. And on
the Syria specifically, he suggested that gaps of trust remain, and I'm quoting the U.S. president there, which means what, Fred?
FREDERIK PLEITGEN, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Which means they're not really sort to any sort of agreement that could lead to a lasting
cease-fire in Syria and also the gaps of trust indicate that the U.S. president has indicated that
past cease-fires haven't been able to hold either.
I think there are lot of different issues between these two sides preventing them from coming together. On the one hand, the big question
that the Russians and the Americans have is, if they're goingto work together in Syria, if they're going to coordinate, for instance, bombings
in Syria, who are they going to fight against? that is a big issue that the Russians have. They said, look, a lot of the
groups that the U.S. is supporting work together with groups that were formally allied with al Qaeda, whereas the U.S. is saying look you're
bombing some of the rebels that we have vetted and are actually fighting on our side.
And so there is still a big gulf between these two nations.
And of course, you have the big issue of civilian casualties, a lot of bombings taking place, that the U.S. is saying that Russians are not taking
enough care to protect civilians. And that's one of the things the U.S. president also said. He said, look, the people of Syria are suffering now
more than they have been at any point in time. And so therefore this is a very pressing issue.
But at the same time, of course, there is still that issue of trust between the U.S., where the U.S. wants to make sure the Russian are going to be
more careful about where they bomb and who they bomb before the U.S. is going to enter into any agreement with them.
The Russians for their side also have their own misgivings as well. A lot of it also focuses, Becky, around the question of Aleppo and how to get
humanitarian aid into that place, which of course we know, Becky, since yesterday is besieged again.
ANDERSON: How would you evaluate the Russian president's reception and performance at the G20?
[11:05:08] PLEITGEN: Well, the Russian media and Russian agencies are certainly hailing him almost as the man of the G20. And it certainly does
appear his role is much more expanded and important than it has been over the past sort of G20 meetings. If you look at the meeting in 2015 and
2014, especially around the time of the Ukraine crisis where other leaders were almost avoiding him, certainly does appear as though he has got a lot
more cards to play right now. It's absolutely clear to the U.S. and to the European Union that there's not going to be a solution in Syria without the
Russians, without the Russians working together because they have that big presence in Syria because, of course, they're flying missions in Syria as
At the same time what the Russians want is sanctions relief in light of the Ukraine crisis and the Europeans and the Americans saying that's not going
to happen unless the Minsk agreement is fully implemented, which right now doesn't seem to be in the cards.
So, the Russians certainly a much stronger position, much more sought after than they were in the past. The Russians in many ways saying that unless
Vladimir Putin is back on the international stage as a very important player, but at the same time, of course, Becky, we also have to keep in
mind that especially with Syria, the Russians also running a big risk of getting bogged down in that conflict that's been going on for six years and
where no side has been able to intervene in a way that would have been decisive.
And the Russians I think also in past when the rebels launched their offensive on Aleppo, managed to break the siege of Aleppo, very much seeing
what the limits of their air power are in that conflict as well.
ANDERSON: Andrew, Asia-Pacific region in focus at present with G20 ending and the ASEAN meeting kicking off. An historic landing when Obama gets to
Laos, the first, as we've been saying, sitting U.S. president to have visited the country.
Let's discuss what we might expect, then, from this meeting. When the bloc was founded, what, a half a century ago, it was focused on security and
diplomacy. These days, what is its remit? And is it fit for purpose?
ANDREW STEVENS, CNN MONEY: Well, really, Becky, it's an economic bloc these days. And there has been longstanding plans for a free trade zone.
But ASEAN is not known for any diplomatic sparks because it's a club which is sort of a membership which is not binding. It's voluntary. So, any
disagreements tend to be swept under the carpet and we don't hear about it.
Now, what we are likely to see this time around is a chance for the U.S. president really to underline the pivot -- the U.S. pivot to Asia. Its his
11th trip to Asia, as you say his first trip to Laos. It will be a chance, as he says, to get closer relationships between Laos and the U.S.
He used the model of the relationship -- the growing relationship between Vietnam and the U.S. as a model for Laos-U.S. sort of development.
But the real issue, Becky, as I spoke about diplomatic sparks, they have been flying in the past few hours from The Philippines president. The
Philippines is a member of the 10 -nation ASEAN grouping. And The Philippines President Rodrigo Duterte saying in a press conference just
before he left for Vientiane in Laos, he was asked what his response would be to the extrajudicial killings which have been happening in The
Philippines as part of his crackdown on drug -- hundreds have died, hundreds have been killed. And he took this to say -- to mean that the
U.S. could ask him about this and imply criticism of his policy, and it was an extraordinary response that he gave journalists.
At one stage in Tagalog he used the phrase son of a bitch to refer to the U.S. president and said that he would curse him at the forum. He said that
The Philippines was not a lap dog of the U.S., that the U.S. had invaded The Philippines and had subjugated its people, very, very colorful language
And in fact the U.S. president picked up at this at his closing press conference in Hangzhou for the G20 saying that we know that The Philippines
president is a colorful character, but he also underlined the fact that he's not interested in meeting The Philippines president, and there is a
bilateral meeting planned, but he's not interested in meeting the president unless there is something productive coming out of it, unless they can
actually move ahead with something.
So, we're now all watching to see whether there is a meeting between these two leaders after this outburst from The Philippines president.
ANDERSON: Fascinating. All right, Andrew. And Fred in Moscow, thank you, chaps.
Well, as Mr. Obama makes that historic visit to Laos, the country still deal being the American
legacy in the region, bombs that the U.S. military dropped as part of its war in neighboring Vietnam some 50 years ago. Many explosives still litter
the countryside, unexploded yet deadly. 20,000 people have been killed or wounded by them since the war ended.
Well, across Syria, government-held towns were hit by deadly explosions and just a short time ago ISIS claimed responsibility for them.
State media reports at least 30 died in twin bombings on a highway near Tartus on the Mediterranean coast, another four people were killed when a
car bomb exploded at a Syrian army checkpoint in Homs. And near Damascus, a vehicle carrying what the government says were six suspected militants
blew up after a soldier stopped the car on the highway. The soldier was killed in the northeastern Kurdish controlled city of Hassaqah (ph). A
suicide bomber blew himself up killing five Kurdish security forces.
Well, the latest bombings come despite ongoing talks between Russia and the United States as we've been discussing, to try to end the violence. Arwa
Damon is in Istanbul in Turkey with the very latest. And while gaps of trust as Obama suggested they were still exist between the U.S. and Russian
presidents when it comes to Syria. ISIS, meantime, claiming responsibility for further deadly chaos in the country.
What's your take on what we are seeing and hearing at this point?
ARWA DAMON, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Well, Becky, I think this just illustrates the various different layers and complexities when it
comes to trying to handle the situation both in Syria and Iraq and when it comes to trying to combat an entity like
The one thing that the U.S. and Russia can agree on is the fact that ISIS is a terrorist organization. Bar that, it seems there is very little
agreement on any other front which is, of course, the key and most critical issue here because a lot of the bloodshed that does
take place in Syria is not necessarily bloodshed that is carried out by ISIS. And any sort of plan that is potentially put forward, even if it is
agreed on by all these various different global players to defeat ISIS, that won't even necessarily begin to mean an end for the bloodshed that is
happening inside Syria.
And as we have been discussing, there is no deal at this stage between the U.S. and Russia in
these on going negotiations that don't at this point in time have the Syrian population as necessarily being an active part of those discussions.
President Obama did mention the fact that not too long ago, they did mention to negotiate a
cessation of hostilities that did allow some aid to end up arriving within the besieged areas of Aleppo and other parts of the country, but that
quickly collapsed. And now we have Aleppo under siege once again.
You have this ongoing trauma being inflicted on the population every single day, Becky, and this is a population that is very well aware at this stage
that they are little more than pawns in this broader political game.
ANDERSON: Very briefly, the Turkish president has called on Obama and on Putin to establish a no-fly zone in Syria immediately. What's the strategy
here on the part of the Turks?
DAMON: Well, first of all, Turkey has been calling for a safe zone to be established for years now at this point in time, and now with the Turkish
incursion into Syria and the fact that they have been able to secure dozens of villages, key border crossings, some 91 kilometers of border between
Turkey and Syria and push ISIS out of those areas, it seems as if the dynamics on the ground would perhaps allow for the notion of a no-fly zone
or safe zone to be applied.
And Turkey wants to see this take place for a number of reasons. The Syrian population and what it would mean for them aside, it also curves
Turkey's purposes and allows it to have a buffer zone, because Turkey, of course, has been facing numerous threats from ISIS. And it also would
potentially allow the Turks to try to push back to Syrian Kurds, the U.S.- backed Syrian Kurds should they be trying to advance.
And once again, you have another regional player that is now active within the Syrian battlefield, and it is phenomenally complicated, as we have been
ANDERSON: Arwa is in Istanbul with great analysis for you. Arwa, thank you for that.
Well, I want to get you some of the other stories on our radar today. And two people are
dead after a parking garage collapsed in tell receive in Tel Aviv in Israel. 20 people are injured. The four-story underground garage was
still under construction. Several people are still believed to be trapped in the rubble.
Two of the world's biggest oil producers have struck a deal on stabilizing falling oil prices
including a possible production freeze. Now, oil prices rose on the announcement of the agreement between Saudi and Russia, that agreement made
at the G20.
The market has seen major price collapse, you'll remember, since 2014.
We're going to get now to the British parliament and Brexit Secretary David Davis is there laying out the government's vision of the UK after it leaves
the European Union -- that isn't David Davis. He is about to speak, though, to the chamber. The Brexit vote in June brings a host of economic
complexities as Britain renegotiates trade terms with the EU and virtually every other trading partner around the world.
Well, Prime Minister Theresa May says she wants Britain to be a free trade leader when it's all said and done. Isa Soares has more from London as we
await to hear from the Brexit secretary, as he's known, David Davis. We did hear, Isa, from Theresa May, the prime minister, earlier on at G20.
And she says that she was comforted to hear just how enthusiastic so many countries were in cutting trade deals with the UK going forward.
[11:16:12] ISA SOARES, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: She did indeed.
Hi, Becky, she sounded enthusiastic in her tone, but not so enthusiastic when she was thrown questions regarding Brexit and what other countries
want to hear from Britain in terms of clarity and what Brexit mean.
Time and time again Brexit -- Becky, you and I have heard that Brexit means Brexit. But now many countries, many of the world leaders, including
Barack Obama, as well as the Japanese government have also been saying what exactly does that mean, put some more meat on the bones. And that's what
we're hoping to hear from David Davis, Becky.
But, you know, Theresa May who is now on, what, her eighth week as new prime minister, first international conference on the world stage is
facing pressure. And she's walking a very fine line.
We heard today from the Japanese government who outlined this 15-page summary, basically, saying this is what we need. We need clarity from the
UK in terms of what this means. Why? Well, because Japan, as you know, our viewers will know, have many, many companies based out here, be it
automakers, be it financial firms as well tech companies. They employ something like 114,000 people here, Becky.
And what they're saying, look, if you are leaving -- if the UK is leaving the European Union, this will create great turmoil for us because it
basically means -- go ahead, Becky.
ANDERSON: I'm going to stop you. Great analysis. Let's get to Brexit Secretary David Davis who has just begun to speak before parliament. I'll
come back to you.
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[11:22:06] ANDERSON: Right. David Davis, the man charged with organizing the UK's exit
from the European Union.
So what does Brexit actually mean, he asked the chamber of the British parliament. Well, he said it means having control over the UK's borders,
its laws and taxpayers' money. He said it's about getting the best deal, not an off-the-shelf deal. He said it means controls on borders, but also
should be positive on trade.
He said it's not about making the best of a bad job, it's an exciting new opportunity. It is not, he said, about ending relationships with Europe,
but about forging ahead with new ones.
And, Isa, he said the timing will be at the behest of Britain. Your thoughts?
SOARES: Absolutely, Becky.
Well, I was hoping -- you know, when you and I were just talking before he started speaking, talking about some meat on the bones. From what I heard
so far, there wasn't much meat in that speech. He has just started speaking. But what we heard from David Davis is new roll as secretary for
leaving, for exiting Britain, Becky, is pretty much what we heard from all along from Theresa May, Brexit means Brexit, no Brexit through the back
doors, control on immigration. So nothing new.
And what people want to know, many businesses, indeed world leaders want to know in Europe, too, what does that entail? They want some clarity. They
want some answers from the British government.
And what he basically said, David Davis, said, we'll take time to get it right.
Today, we heard from Theresa May who said, look, we're not going -- we're not going to -- I'm not going to activate article 50 by the end of the
year. We're going to get this right. We're going to do it in our own time.
But at the same time, Becky, you're having so many people who said, look, the honeymoon period is over now. Let's get to work. But the answers are
still not coming in. Hence why you're getting countries like Japan basically saying we need this to be really an open process, we need it to
be really transparent, transparent to us in terms of what it will mean.
But also, people like President Obama who basically said, look, we understand that Brits decided to leave the EU, but to us you made the wrong
decision. And to us you're at the back of the queue when it comes to any trade deals, Becky.
ANDERSON: All right. Well, we'll continue to listen in to what David Davis, the Brexit secretary, is saying to the houses of parliament -- in
the houses of parliament to the chamber today. And any more we get, of course, we'll bring that to you viewers.
But Isa is absolutely right, no flesh on the bones as of yet.
Right. It's a busy hour, this one, turning back to Syria now where the blood on the battlefields
never has time to dry and the guns never rest it seems.
Fresh scenes of obliteration like this one in the city of Homs played out across the country earlier on as state media reported four blasts ripped
mostly into government-held areas.
Now, Syria's people as ever, suffering the most. Dozens killed and wounded once again.
Right now, a solution to Syria's civil war seems as far away as ever. Hopes, of course, are pinned on the Russian and American leaders striking
some kind of peace deal at the G20 summit earlier on. They didn't.
And even if they eventually come to an agreement, it's not clear it will fix this mess.
This graph shows who is fighting whom in Syria. And if you're confused by it, you are not alone. It doesn't make much sense to anybody.
Russia, America, countless rebel factions, regional powers, the government and others, all locked in a murderous free-for-all that is destroying Syria
from the inside out.
Well, let's try to break this down a little bit more for you today. Lena Khatib now who joins us from London where she is the head of the Middle
East and North Africa program at the think tank Chatham House.
An American source today is telling CNN those talks were constructive between Obama and
Putin, certainly leaving some room for hope. Are you optimistic?
LENA KHATIB, CHATHAM HOUSE: I'm not optimistic in the short run at all, not even in the medium term. This is not the first time that we see talks
between Russia and the U.S. on Syria result in nothing but promises that more talks with happen in the future, and on it goes.
I guess I am personally not surprised. The situation on the ground, as we can see from your report, is getting more and more complicated. And this
makes it even more difficult for an agreement to be brokered.
ANDERSON: Turkey, one of the players in what is a multi-layered very, very complicated battlefield, it's becoming a much bigger player in Syria at
present. Over the weekend, it opened up yet another front against ISIS militants in the country's north.
Now, backing up Syrian rebel fighters like these on the ground there is what the Turks are up to. It has also, of course, been attacking some
Kurdish fighters as well, fighters who its ally Washington actually backs.
This is really messy. Can Turkey tip the balance in Syria? And if so, to whose benefit?
KHATIB: Well, from the very beginning, Turkey has seen in the Syrian conflict an opportunity to crack down on Kurds and prevent them from
declaring an autonomous region, not just Kurds who are Turkish, but also Kurds who are Syrian. And what it seems to me to be happening in recent
weeks is that Turkey is now more in alignment with the U.S. regarding political transition in Syria which means that Turkey has publicly accepted
having Assad stay in power as president for an interim period were an agreement to be reached.
But in return, it seems that the U.S. is helping Turkey in preventing the Kurds from taking
areas west of the Euphrates, meaning areas bordering Turkey.
So, I guess the compromise here is Turkey compromises politically on Syria, but it gains U.S. support in preventing Kurdish autonomy.
ANDERSON: Yeah, and the Kurds will tell you that they will be let down once again.
Look, let me read something that you wrote in an academic paper that you published last year where you said, and I quote, the Islamic State and the
Syrian regime mutually benefit from one another, and consequently the relationship between the two has largely been pragmatic.
Now, given Assad's moves under Moscow's umbrella, how has that dynamic shifted if at all?
KHATIB: They still to a degree need one another, because ISIS uses the presence of the
Assad regime as part of its raison d'etre, to present itself as an alternative, especially that the Syrian opposition on the ground has not
managed to shift the balance of power in Syria.
But at the same time, the Assad regime in a way benefits from the presence of ISIS, because from the beginning of the conflict Assad has presented
himself to the west as the only reliable partner against the spread of terrorism and groups like ISIS.
So they still continue to benefit from one another even though the relationship between them today has obviously shifted as a result of
pressure on ISIS from the international coalition which means that ISIS is now attacking regime areas which is not something that have taken place in
ANDERSON: Very briefly, taking a step back at this point, Syria seems to be highlighting the abject failure of international diplomacy and how weak
many of its formal institutions are, the UN especially. Do you agree with that?
[11:30:07] KHATIB: Yes, absolutely. I mean, the UN has tried, but failed, to reach an agreement on Syria. And that in a way tell us that really the
keys to solving this conflict are primarily in the hands of the U.S. and Russia.
In the beginning, three years ago, Russia was not as big a player in Syria as it is now. But it is largely the retreat of the U.S. in that U.S.
strategy on Syria was not really matched by actual action on the ground, that left the door wide open for Russia to assert itself. And that's why
today no settlement to the conflict can happen without U.S.-Russian agreement.
In a way, the UN can only potentially host some talks, but it's no longer the actor that could lead this process.
ANDERSON: All right, fascinating. Thank you. The latest world news headlines are just ahead. Plus, new exclusive details about ISIS planning
attacks in Europe and how terrorists hide among Syrian refugees.
[11:35:05] ANDERSON: To some stunning new details now about the terror attacks in
Paris last year. CNN has obtained tens of thousands of pages of documents in the investigation into those ISIS attacks revealing a sophisticated and
CNN's senior international correspond Clarissa Ward has spent months following this story. Here is her exclusive report.
CLARISSA WARD, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): November 13, 10 ISIS operatives attacked Paris, targeting bars,
restaurants, a concert hall and a stadium, shooting as many people as they could before blowing themselves up.
By the end of the massacre, the worst terrorist attack in Europe in a decade, 130 people were dead. Now, for the first time, CNN has gained
access to thousands of pages of documents and photos from the internal European investigation which shed new light on the sophisticated network
ISIS uses to coordinate terror attacks across Europe.
The documents reveal another suspected terrorist never before made public who investigators linked to the cell that carried out the Paris attacks. He
was on the loose in Europe for more than six months. Other ISIS operatives are right now believed to be living among ordinary citizens in Europe
plotting other strikes directed by senior ISIS handlers in Syria, according to multiple sources.
Within days of the shocking rampage in Paris, police learned that two of the three suicide bombers at the Stade de France stadium entered Europe by
posing as Syrian refugees. These surveillance photos never seen before publicly show the bombers as they approach their target. This is the moment
they detonate their devices.
But according to the documents, two more men were part of the ISIS cell. They traveled the same refugee route as the suicide bombers, blending in
with thousands of people from war-torn countries. Their names are Adel Haddadi and Mohammad Usman. They were eventually arrested.
And records of their capture and interrogation obtained by CNN show how ISIS supported the attackers throughout their mission. This is their story
based mainly on multiple interrogations of Haddadi.
Early October, six weeks before the Paris attacks, the documents show their journey began in Raqqa, Syria, the capital of the self-declared ISIS
caliphate. The men didn't know each other's real names, or what their mission would be. According to the documents, Haddadi later tells
investigators he only knew they were being sent to France to do something for the good of god.
Much of their journey was directed by a shadowy ISIS leader in Syria, known only as Abu Ahmad, who arranged meetings, cell phones, money, and
transportation for them.
Jean-Charles Brisard is a French expert on terrorism. We asked him to analyze the documents obtained by CNN.
JEAN-CHARLES BRISARD, FRENCH CENTER FOR ANALYSIS OF TERRORISM: Abu Ahmad is clearly an ISIS operative. He is key in sending those individuals, at least
the foreigners, into the Paris attacks, because he is the one who recruited them, who funds them, who trained them, who provided the electronic devices
to them, telephones. He was always in contact with them.
WARD: According to the transcripts of interrogations, Haddadi and Usman, along with the two Paris attackers, travel from Raqqa, across the Turkish
border, on to the coastal city of Izmir, switching vehicles, picking up cash, passed from one smuggler to the next along the way.
They receive instructions from their ISIS handler in Syria through encrypted apps such as Telegram and WhatsApp. Throughout their journey,
they're only given enough money and information to get to the next stop.
PAUL CRUICKSHANK, CNN TERRORISM ANALYST: ISIS is accelerating its international attack planning. It's increasingly sophisticated in the way
it does this. It's set up an intricate logistical support system for these terrorist cells throughout Europe.
WARD: In the middle of the night, the team makes the treacherous crossing to Greece in a boat filled with dozens of refugees. They're picked up by
the Greek navy along the way. The two bombers, who would eventually attack the Paris stadium, make it through and start moving steadily north toward
But Haddadi and Usman's fake Syrian passports are discovered. They're arrested, and their money is taken. They are held in Greece for about a
Greek officials would not say why they were released, but authorities believe that delay was significant. They would not have a chance to become
part of the Paris attacks.
Haddadi tells investigators they contact their ISIS handler, Abu Ahmad, who arranges another 2,000 euros for them. Flush with cash, the pair continue
along the refugee route.
As they work their way across Europe, Usman, identified by investigators as a bomb-maker from a Pakistani terror group, passes the hours doing
something strikingly un-Islamic, looking at porn. Documents show he visited almost two dozen porn sites on his phone.
November 14, the day after the Paris attacks, Haddadi and Usman arrive in Salzburg, Austria. They apply for asylum and end up in this refugee center,
where they stay for weeks.
(on camera): According to CNN sources, authorities now believe that Haddadi and Usman were not only part of the same terror cell as the Paris bombers,
but also that they were planning another attack. The documents show that they were in contact with people in several European countries and were
researching travel to France.
(voice-over): Investigators believe they were waiting for a third man to join them, a mysterious ISIS operative called Abid Tabaouni.
Tabaouni has never been publicly named, until now. Like Usman and Haddadi, he traveled from Syria along the refugee route, carrying a phone number
linked to the terror cell of the ringleader of the Paris attacks, according to the documents, as well as a photo of Islamic state fighters standing
before their flag.
December 10, nearly a month after the Paris attacks, Tabaouni finally arrives at the refugee center where Usman and Haddadi are. Later the very
same day, police raid the center. Usman and Haddadi are arrested. Here's what happened next, according to the documents.
In the scramble, Haddadi tries unsuccessfully to get rid of his SIM card.
Tabaouni is nowhere to be seen. Haddadi denies knowing him. But investigators find this, Tabaouni's cell phone, charging right beside
Haddadi's bed. It has Haddadi's phone number saved in it. Also in that phone, a photo taken just 30 minutes before the raid. It shows Tabaouni
sitting on a bed in the refugee center, right next to where Haddadi and Usman slept.
[11:42:06] BRISARD: We can assume that Tabaouni was also part of the same plot. and was instructed to carry out an attack.
WARD: From the time that he slipped away last December, Tabaouni has been a wanted man, according to CNN sources, who also confirm he was finally
arrested in July.
The documents show this is the Facebook page Tabaouni had on his phone, and in recent months it appears he was publicly posting updates from Belgium.
Investigators are now analyzing 1,600 pages of data from his phone. And sources tell CNN they are moving to extradite him to Austria, and to tie
him to Haddadi and Usman and the Paris attackers.
(on camera): Are you concerned there may be many others who use the same route who we just -- who you just didn't know about it?
BRISARD: Yes, we've seen that in the recent weeks. Several of the individuals who carry out individual attacks, inspired attacks were coming
back from Syria using the same route.
WARD: So there's a possibility that there are many more that you just don't know about?
BRISARD: There is a high possibility.
WARD (voice-over): The documents show Haddadi's phone has also proven to be a treasure trove for investigators, revealing an ISIS network that fanned
out through Southern and Northern Europe. He had dozens of contacts.
Some gave advice on crossing borders and evading the law. One tells Haddadi that he was able to sneak into France by hiding in the bathroom of a train.
December 15, five days after the raid, ISIS handler Abu Ahmad reaches out to his operatives, Haddadi and Usman, perhaps wondering about their
silence. "How are you?" he writes. "What's become of you?"
There is no reply.
ANDERSON: CNN senior international correspondent Clarissa Ward tonight joining me from London.
Clarissa, why do authorities believe there are more like them out there?
WARD: Well, Becky, obviously there were tens of thousands of pages of documents, so we essentially were culling through and trying to bring the
highlights to our viewers. But there are at least two other people who are mentioned in the documents who were arrested alongside Usman and Haddadi in
that Austrian refugee center.
And beyond that, there's a larger network of people who they were in touch with, people who they were talking to. One was a senior technician at a
nuclear research facility. He was placed under observation by French police the minute they knew that he was in conversation or in contact with
But one Belgian source told me that they estimate there are as many as 30 to 40 individuals who facilitated this network that orchestrated the Paris
attacks who are still at large, Becky.
Clarissa, thank you.
An exhaustive investigation, of course. And viewers, as always, there is much more on the website CNN.com. You can watch that exclusive report and
others and read what is our in-depth analysis only at CNN.
Well, live from Abu Dhabi, this is Connect the World with me, Becky Anderson. Coming up, a suicide bomber's final 100 steps. The narrative of
a movie and now nominated for an award. We're going to have that story for you up next.
ANDERSON: You're watching CNN. This is Connect the World with me Becky Anderson. Welcome back.
In Afghanistan, at least 24 people are dead, I'm afraid, and nearly 100 injured after two bombs exploded in the capital Kabul. It happened near
the defense ministry. Police say they now have control of the area. A Taliban spokesman tweeted that the group carried out the attack.
Let's bring in the journalist Bilal Sarwary. He's joining me now from Kabul. What more can you tell us at this point?
BILAL SARWARY, JOURNALIST: The health ministry, Becky, has confirmed at least 24 people are confirmed dead and 91 others are injured. some of
those injured are in very critical condition.
i had passed this area 15 minutes after the blast. i was inside the ministry of defense. And as I was speaking to the army chief of staff, we
heard about this attack. Initially, according to him, there was a sticky bomb placed to the side of the road. When that explosion happened, this
was during the rush hour, everyone was back home from the ministry of defense and other government ministries. Everyone got close to the site of
the attack. This is when a suicide attacker wearing an Afghan security uniform detonated his explosives.
And Afghanistan has lost at least six of its top officers -- the deputy head of presidential protection services, the man in charge for protecting
President Ashraf Ghani, is among those killed.
The head of Kabul intelligence is also killed. This was an officer who was known for preventing suicide attacks. The ministry of defense general who
was in charge of protecting the building itself and other installations for the ministery is also among those killed. The head of the police station,
police district, too, is also killed.
But bear in mind, most of those killed were also ordinary Afghans, poor Afghans, who were selling vegetable and fruit. This is a district that is
very poor. And it's right in the heart of Kabul.
This is also the area where a truck bomb was driven into what is Afghanistan's secret service. So, questions are being asked why there have
been so many attacks in this particular location, which is not very far from the presidential palace.
ANDERSON: With that, we'll leave it there. Thank you.
Well, young boys lured into Islamic extremism, some even becoming suicide bombers. That is the tragic reality that is playing out in some corners of
A Pakistani student bringing attention to this issue with his film "100 Steps." The film has been nominated for a student Academy Award.
My colleague Jon Jensen caught up with the director for you.
UNIDENTIIFED MALE: Father, can I pray once before I start walking?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes, my son. Certainly.
JON JENSEN, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Imagine that you have just 100 steps between life and death. Pakistani director Shanowa Zali (ph) ponders that
intense scenario in his film "100 Steps."
And the particulars might shock you. It's about a would-be child suicide bomber who is about to act.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I wanted to create content which shows hundred steps of a suicide bomber, what they're thinking, what led them to come to this
position and why are they here.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: My son, I have one solution for you.
JENSEN: The film focuses on Abdullah, a 13-year-old faced with the horrible demands
of his radical teacher -- that the boy detonate a suicide vest to redeem himself of a crime. Sadly not an inconceivable plot.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: They're vulnerable, they're young, and whatever you teach them they'll in the end accept that.
So, ones an easy targets they become easy people to actually, you know, brainwash.
JENSEN: But if the story surprises you, so will the ending.
And now the 23-year-old filmmaker has gotten a big nod from Hollywood, snagging a nomination for a Student Oscar.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Totally unbelievable. I'm still grasping that thing that I've been nominated. It's still overwhelming, to be very honest.
JENSEN: Zali (ph) made the film while studying at Northwestern University in Qatar with a grant for $8,000. Not an easy subject to tackle on screen
or to even discuss in Pakistan. But Zali (ph) thinks it's critical to get people talking.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We must acknowledge the problem. We are a very resilient and very brave nation. We shouldn't be known because of this
The more we talk about it, the more we actually find solutions for it.
JENSEN: Zali's (ph) next step is graduate school for film to continue telling nuanced stories no matter the challenge.
Jon Jenson, CNN, Abu Dhabi.
ANDERSON: You are watching Connect the World live from Abu Dhabi. We'll be right back for you.
[11:55:19] ANDERSON: All right, you're back with us. Our Parting Shots today sounds like a catastrophe -- crowds in London gather to watch a
massive inferno burn the city to the ground. Well, that did happen over the weekend, but fortunately it was just a replica of 17th Century London.
The city marked the 350th anniversary of the great fire.
KATE HARVEY, PRODUCER: The great fire of London, which took place in 1666 was an extraordinary event for London. It was a fire that destroyed the
majority of the city. 80,000 people were made homeless and ended up living in refugee camps on the fringes of London for many years afterward.
ANDERSON: It's absolutely remarkable, isn't it? And for that and more of the stories we've been on for you as well as others our team around the
world is working on throughout the day, do use the Facebook page, that is Facebook.com/CNNconnect. If you're a regular viewer, you will know that.
I'm Becky Anderson. That was Connect the World from the team working with us around the world in London, and in Atlanta as well as here in Abu Dhabi,
it is a very good evening.