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[06:30:00] CHRIS CUOMO, CNN ANCHOR: Jill Stein announcing she and her running mate are returning to North Dakota to face trespassing and vandalism charges. Why? Stein was protesting a controversial North Dakota pipeline. She admitted to spray painting a bulldozer during an anti-oil demonstration earlier this week. A judge is expected to rule on the pipeline's future today.

ALISYN CAMEROTA, CNN ANCHOR: Wells Fargo firing more than 5,000 people fined $180 million and set to pay victim's restitution. This comes after the employees set up millions of unauthorized accounts to boost sales. Those workers even created fake email addresses and pin numbers to enroll customers in online banking services without their knowledge. Wells Fargo says it regrets what happened.

CUOMO: Growing criticism for two stores invoking the September 11th terror attacks to boost their bottom line. We have Walmart in Panama City Beach, Florida. They put cans of soda on display, resembling the twin towers with an American flag around it. After broad ridicule, the display is being removed, of course.

And in Texas, poor taste doesn't begin to describe this ad from a local mattress retailer.

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: What better what I to remember 9/11 than with a Twin Tower sale? Right now you can get any size mattress for a twin price. Store wide sale all day long.

(SCREAMING)

We'll never forget.

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CUOMO: Are -- anyway, in a statement, the owner of Miracle Mattress says the ad was tasteless and crude and the employees behind it will be held responsible.

Here's the concern with this. Obviously it's wrong. That "never forget" thing matters. It just doesn't matter to the families that we lost and the people who were there, but so much of what we're dealing with now in terms of our fears about the world stem from the reality of what can happen. When you get casual about that, you're not just being insensitive. On

a level, you're being inhuman.

CAMEROTA: I mean, when you remember back 15 years ago, if you could have thought there would ever be a funny commercial poking fun at 9/11, it would be inconceivable. It's still pretty inconceivable. I wonder

CUOMO: Sometimes time heals too much.

CAMEROTA: Yes.

All right. Donald Trump praising Vladimir Putin while Clinton's e- mail saga is still haunting her campaign. So, who won the week in politics? We're bringing back our panel to discuss the highs and lows.

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[06:36:21] CAMEROTA: It's been a busy week on the campaign trail for Clinton and Trump. So, let's take a look back at the week key week's key moments.

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HILLARY CLINTON (D), PRESIDENTIAL NOMINEE: Welcome to our big plane. I am so happy to have all of you with me.

DONALD TRUMP (R), PRESIDENTIAL NOMINEE: I've just known Pam Bondi for years. Never spoke to her about that at all.

CLINTON: I have said repeatedly it was a mistake to have a personal account. I would certainly not do it again.

TRUMP: I think under the leadership of Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton, the generals have been reduced to rubble.

CLINTON: He says he has a secret plan to defeat ISIS, but the secret is he has no plan.

TRUMP: He's been a leader far more than our president has been a leader.

CLINTON: It's not just insulting to the office and the man who holds the office, it is scary.

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CAMEROTA: All right. So, who won this week in politics?

We're joined again by Philip Bump and Errol Louis.

Guys, before I get your final answer on that, let's break down the wins you think Trump has had and the losses you think Trump had this week. So, let's pull up our graphic. The wins, Phil, the tightening national state polls. Definitely

that's a win for him. No new gaffes at rallies. I guess you're setting the bar low. The fact there's no new gaffes is a win.

The losses. The praise for Vladimir Putin, defending the tweet about military sexual assaults where he said, what do you expect when you put men and women together? IRS fined for Pam Bondi's registering that he did something wrong, and the path to citizenship contradiction. He's been all over the place in terms of that to do with the undocumented immigrants. Basically, he suggested something that sounded like a path to legal status. Citizenship probably goes too far, but it's hard to know.

PHILIP BUMP, POLITICAL REPORTER, WASHINGTON POST: Yes, there are -- I mean, so here's what I'll say. We are 60-plus days away from the election. The fact that the polls are tightening is critical for Donald Trump.

All those other things happened as well. Those will be reflected in future polls potentially. The main thing he needs to do is he needs to make progress toward actually being able to win a state that Mitt Romney lost. This week we saw him do that. If nothing else, they're going to be happy about that in Trump Tower.

CUOMO: All right. Up the graphic there on the wins and losses. Colin Powell e-mail is a win. Why? Because it proves Clinton was telling the truth about the conversation.

Leading in swing states. That's good because electoral votes winds up winning. More available to the press, that's a step in the right direction, but that could have gone in either column.

Inability to pivot from e-mails, we're going to talk about what happened at the forum. Trump cuts into the national lead. That's the polls. FBI releases the report on e-mails.

So, first of all, Errol, do you see it as a net positive or negative week and which of those factors loomed largest?

ERROL LOUIS, CNN POLITICAL COMMENTATOR: I think it is a net positive for her. Those polling numbers, that's the thing that summarizes the impact on all of this stuff. And the fact that she is leading in key swing states, the big swing states, that's important.

CAMEROTA: But they're tightening.

LOUIS: Well, it's tightening, but every day she stays in the lead is a good day for Hillary Clinton. If she's tied in Florida, if she's a point behind in Ohio, that's what the latest Quinnipiac poll suggested, but if she's with a -- maintaining a clear lead in Pennsylvania, she's putting a dagger in the heart of the Trump campaign. That's the numbers they've got to look at every day. And they've got to try and change. If it's not changing in his direction, then she's doing what she needs to do.

CAMEROTA: So you have the poll number, then you have the how. You have the reason behind the poll number. That takes us to all the other factors.

What could Hillary Clinton say about the e-mail server or about the foundation that would make it go away?

[06:40:05] LOUIS: I don't know about go away --

CUOMO: Make it better, make the bleeding stop, make not resonating.

LOUIS: I don't know about go away -- bleeding stop.

LOUIS: Make it not hurt so much. I think thing to do, and frankly Trump has his own version of this, she's got to say, look, this is now in the hands of the voters. This is not an FBI investigation anymore. This is not a congressional inquiry anymore.

We're 60 days out. People have all the information they could ever possibly want. Thousands and thousands of e-mails. Hundreds of hours of testimony. They can go and find out what they want, but what I want to talk about --

CUOMO: She does say that.

LOUIS: She's got to say it in 20 seconds instead of 20 minutes. That's what she's got to do.

CAMEROTA: So, Phil, given that the polls are tightening, who do you think won the week?

BUMP: I still think Hillary Clinton did win the week, just because she does still have these leads in swing states. Granted the polls are tightening, but they haven't tightened that much. She leads in nine out of ten states that were closest in 2012. The only state Trump is positioned to pick up at this point is Iowa, which is a handful of electoral votes.

So, she is still doing what she needs to do. She maintains the national lead. As long as she maintains those leads, until Trump catches up with her, I think she wins the week, regardless of --

CUOMO: How big a deal was the forum? To see them both dealing with what should matter most in terms of what scares you, national security. And how Trump performed and how she performed. How big a deal was it?

LOUIS: It's a big deal because there's 19 million veterans in this country and about 14 million, 15 million of them are going to vote. So, even if nobody else was paying attention, it's safe to assume they were watching.

CUOMO: You had 15 million people watch, by the way.

LOUIS: There you go. It was real important.

They were talking in some ways about issues that many of the rest of us -- I've never served in the military. Nobody in my immediate family has. So, some of the issues are a little outside of my personal visceral

connection, but for the people it, I think it was really important. I think that starts to move. Where are the veterans clustered?

They're in California, they're Texas. We know where those states are probably going to go. But the third largest state for veterans is Florida. So yes.

CAMEROTA: But Trump leads with veterans. In polling, he leads that demographic.

LOUIS: Underperforms, though, which is interesting. Ten-point advantage over Clinton compared to Mitt Romney, who had a 20-point advantage over his Democratic opponent. So, he's got some work to do with that.

CAMEROTA: So, did that candidate forum change, move the needle for either?

BUMP: We'll see what happens when the polls come out.

It spoke very much to, you know -- I think the people who are watching that, who have vague opinions of both the candidates, I think their opinions will be reinforced. People who are already leaning towards Trump, he was very Trumpy in that.

He didn't do much to swing Clinton voters over in the same way she probably didn't do much to swing Trump voters over. We'll see what polling looks like. On the whole, I would say it helps set things in stone more than change some minds.

CUOMO: With the wild card being what he said about Putin that's something we've never heard a Republican ever do it before, even in the vaguest terms. He went really out there and so is Pence.

CAMEROTA: Guys, thank you very much. Have a great weekend.

CUOMO: We've had a turn in the protest in the NFL that started with Colin Kaepernick. Now you have Denver Broncos star Brandon Marshall backing hl college teammate but also his cause. More protests could be on the way as the NFL season kicks off. What are they going to do about it, and what does this mean? Next.

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[06:47:33] CAMEROTA: The 2016 NFL season is officially under way.

CUOMO: Yay.

CAMEROTA: And it comes complete with social statements, especially during the national anthem. Brandon Marshall with the Denver Broncos taking a page from Colin Kaepernick of the San Francisco.

CNN's Coy Wire is tracking it all. He's here for the bleacher report.

Great to have you in studio. COY WIRE, CNN SPORTS ANCHOR: Great to have you as well -- to be here

with you.

Player making a big statement again. We'll get to that in a second. Also making a big statement, that slobber knocker defense by the Denver Broncos led by Von Miller. They had Cam Newton rattled in this game.

Not rattled, however, Broncos' brand-spanking new quarterback Trevor Siemian. Just one snap in his NFL career, it was a kneel-down, and he has to replace this guy? Peyton Manning, you're kidding me. He brings out the Lombardi trophy before the game. It was linebacker Brandon Marshall taking a knee for the broncos during the national anthem. College teammate and frat brother of Colin Kaepernick at the University of Nevada. Marshall says he believes in what Colin is trying to do.

So, Trevor Siemian in this game, when the game got rolling, he was rattled for a bit. Two interceptions. Then he showed that ability. He's cooler than a polar bear's toenails. He leads them on two touchdown drives in the fourth quarter. Panthers would come back with a chance to win the game. Graham Gano, no good. Wide left.

Rematch of Super Bowl 50, Broncos win 21-20.

Now, Serena Williams shocked last night at the U.S. Open last night. I was there guys. Against underdog Karolina Pliskova here? Serena is Pliskova elder by 10 years and it showed a bit. She loses her number one world ranking. Angelique Kerber takes that crown now.

Finally, sports fans in the south love two things, football and fast cars. NASCAR is this Saturday, combing them both mixing them in a big pot at Bristol Motor Speedway in Tennessee. Race track being transformed into a football stadium for Tennessee versus Virginia Tech in what they're calling the battle of Bristol.

This is expected to break the Guinness World Book of Records. Over 150,000 fans at a collegiate football game. There are going to be 25,000 pounds worth of hot dogs and 545,000 beers.

CAMEROTA: Delicious.

WIRE: Got to feed all those people.

CUOMO: 150,000. That would be an awesome record to see, behold boy. World record for that.

[06:50:02] All right. Stay with us. We have something to talk about that's even bigger than football that's happening in football. Of course, it's what's going on that was started by Colin Kaepernick, this protest of the national anthem.

Let's bring in senior editor for "TIME" magazine, Sean Gregory.

So , this started with him. There have been over the last year or so some subtle inclinations from people within the NFL on their own private time talking about the black lives matter movement or if they don't want to touch on that, the general feeling about social justice. But this is different. What do you see in terms of how it's making its way through the league?

SEAN GREGORY, TIME MAGAZINE: Yes, it's been a steady evolution. Now you see with Colin Kaepernick, it's exploded. We've seen a conversation.

I think there was a lot of outrage at first, but cooler heads prevail. Colin Kaepernick has engaged the military. I think the conversation has been productive. And hopefully, it's --

CAMEROTA: So, Coy, is the momentum on Colin Kaepernick's side? For a while, it seemed like he was going to go this alone. Now you see other people taking the knee. So where is this going?

WIRE: Including his teammates, players from different teams. You're definitely seeing that evolve in this situation. Also, how about his jersey sales? They were 20th on the 49ers site alone. It's now the top selling jersey in the entire NFL. We're talking about ahead of Cam Newton, Odell Beckham.

CAMEROTA: What does that tell you? That people see this is a news event and want to have memorabilia or people support him?

WIRE: At the beginning you were seeing people burning his jersey. There's a quote, "Your actions speak so loudly I cannot hear what you say." When he came out and sat during that national anthem, I think people were, what are you doing, how are you degrading our military like that? Then he comes out and starts to clarify his message and his intentions. He said, I never meant to disrespect the military. I have friends and family members who are in the military.

Now people are starting to hear what he's saying, what he's trying to do.

GREGORY: And the jersey sales are fascinating. Back in the day, the thought was don't engage because it's bad for your business. Now we're finding out -- not that he did this for business reasons, but people are interested. There's some productivity --

WIRE: He's actually donating his proceeds from his jersey sales.

CUOMO: That goes to one of the bigger criticisms early on. Yes, he winds up putting his whole team into this. The organization is involved. There's criticism of that.

Jim Brown didn't know that. When Bill Russell decided to get involved, he didn't do it with a Celtics jersey on. Yet, what is he doing now that is showing he cares about this what do we know?

GREGORY: Well, he's talking with his team. There's been a conversation in the locker room. It hasn't torn up the locker room, as we thought. Some people agree.

CUOMO: And there are donations. The San Francisco 49ers put up a million dollars to social injustice donations.

WIRE: And that's matching Colin Kaepernick's first million dollars of his contract he's putting out there. He's putting his money where his mouth is. The Green Bay Packers --

CUOMO: Put up 200 grand.

WIRE: Yes, 100 grand from Coach McCarthy, 100 grand from the organization. It's a matching grant, of sorts, if you will, from the green bay police foundation. Now you're seeing money go to better communities. $2.1 million at least right now single handedly by Colin Kaepernick.

GREGORY: Going to all sides of the issue, Police foundations and community foundations.

CAMEROTA: Here's what Roger Goodell had to say about this. Oh, I'll read it.

"Well, my personal thoughts are I support our players. When they want to see change in society and we don't live in a perfect society, we live in an imperfect society. On the other hand, we believe very strongly in patriotism at the NFL."

What does that say?

WIRE: I was just at the league offices. Speaking to some of the executives, they're really in a tough spot. How do you really do something to someone who's peacefully protesting? There's nothing in the rule books saying you can't sit during the national anthem. He's not breaking any sort of league rule.

The problem is, though, when you have that shield, do you want someone disrespecting, to some, the military. Now, he has clarified --

CAMEROTA: And police officers.

WIRE: Yes, and police officers as well. That's where they're in a tough spot. Really, not their place to have to do anything. He has not broken any rules with what he has done thus far.

CUOMO: Just because you have the right to do something doesn't mean it was right in how you did it.

Thank you very much.

CAMEROTA: Great to have you here.

All right. Donald Trump going on Russian criticizing U.S. foreign policy. So what does his former campaign manager think about that? We ask Corey Lewandowski, next.

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[06:58:25] CUOMO: A seismic event detected in North Korea, allegedly its most powerful nuclear test yet.

BARACK OBAMA, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: My approach is to not reward bad behavior.

DONALD TRUMP (R), PRESIDENTIAL NOMINEE: China, this is your baby. This is your problem.

HILLARY CLINTON (D), PRESIDENTIAL NOMINEE: He praised Russia's strongman Vladimir Putin. It is scary. It is dangerous.

TRUMP: If he says great things about me, I'm going to say great things about him.

MIKE PENCE (R), VICE PRESIDENTIAL NOMINEE: Vladimir Putin has been a stronger leader than Barack Obama has been.

CAMEROTA: Donald Trump continuing his praise for Vladimir Putin, even doing it in an interview that aired on Russian TV.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He does not think Russia is meddling in the U.S. presidential election.

GARY JOHNSON, LIBERTARIAN PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: And what is Aleppo?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You're kidding.

JOHNSON: No.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I think probably 85 percent of the people couldn't put Aleppo on a map.

ANNOUNCER: This is NEW DAY with Chris Cuomo and Alisyn Camerota.

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CAMEROTA: Good morning, everyone. Welcome back to your NEW DAY.

We do have breaking news. Overnight, North Korea launching its most powerful nuclear test yet. Kim Jong-un's government claims it has the technology to mount nuclear warheads on missiles and those missiles could reach the U.S.

CUOMO: The explosive experiment shaking the Korean peninsula literally, with 5.3 earthquake. World powers quick to condemn the test.

We have full coverage of this starting with international correspondent Will Ripley in Tokyo.

What's the word from there?

WILL RIPLEY, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Well, the word is "fanatically reckless". That's how South Korea's President Park described in nuclear test. Here in Tokyo within the last hour, the foreign minister said that Japan is looking at new sanctions against North Korea. But we've seen some of the strongest sanctions on record against the

reclusive country, have done little to stop Kim Jong-un.