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Shooting Rampage in Philadelphia; Bomb Explodes on N.J. Charity Run Route; Philadelphia Police Commissioner Press Conference; Trump Under Fire for Clinton Secret Service Comment; Ivanka Trump Asked Tough Questions on Trump's Child Care Plan; Both Candidates Push for Government-Funded Paternal Leave; Oliver Stone's "Snowden" Opens this Weekend. Aired 3-4p ET

Aired September 17, 2016 - 15:00   ET

THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.

[15:00:00] NICK VALENCIA, CNN CORRESPONDENT: One person is dead, two police officers and three civilians injured in this rampage. We are waiting on a news conference from Philadelphia police commissioner, Richard Ross Jr. The rampage began late last night. The gunman allegedly approached a police officer in her patrol car and fired directly through her window. Police eventually shot and killed that gunman. They said they found a note expressing the gunman's hatred of law enforcement.

Our Nick Valencia has the latest for us.

Nick, I understand we just have found the contents of what is in the letter.

NICK VALENCIA, CNN CORRESPONDENT: I haven't read that yet, Poppy. I do know, according to the police, that commissioner, that we are expecting to hear a press conference from, he describes it as a rambling message. He said, in it, hatred towards police and a probation officer.

What we may expect to hear in this press conference we're standing by for is more about the suspect. There are some local media outlets, including the "Philadelphia Inquirer," that hours ago named this suspect. We have independently tried to confirm the identity of this gunman. Police aren't talking, perhaps waiting for the press conference to describe more. Local media describes the gunman as a person in his mid-20's. Perhaps we will get more details about what motivated this person.

We know this shooting, the rampage, as described by police, took place at 11:30 p.m. last night. No words were exchanged between the gunman and the police officer before he opened fire. He fired more than a dozen shots, hit the female police office once in the arm, once in the protective vest she was wearing, and went on shooting another police officer with the University of Pennsylvania in west Philadelphia, very close by. Then he indiscriminately shot into a bar, shooting four civilians. We are told that two are listed in critical condition and the two police officers are stable condition. As we mentioned one of the civilians deceased, shot seven times -- Poppy?

POPPY HARLOW, CNN ANCHOR: What else do we know, Nick, about the civilian who was shot, as you said, seven times, in this rampage last night. A woman, correct?

VALENCIA: We believe she was shot while sitting in her car, 25 years old, a local shot seven times. We also know during this whole rampage, Poppy, that at one point, the gunman used a civilian in the area as a human shield. We do know also that four police officers from the Philadelphia police force respond today this shooting. As soon as those shots were fired against the first police officer sitting in her car, officers immediately responded to try to subdue this suspect. He was eventually shot and killed by police.

The motive, early on in this investigation, reporters there and the local media asked the police commissioner if any ideology, religious ideology had played a part in all of this. The reason, because in January, there was a second ambush against police officers. The suspect saying he had pledged allegiance to ISIS. He was inspired by his religious ideology. Perhaps that led to the questions. A lot of similarities between this ambush and the one that was in January. They are not connected. They are separate incidents. Certainly, the local press corps still have that fresh on their mind and ask that to the police commissioner.

We are still expecting this press conference to happen, more details about this gunman. Some details have surfaced in local media. We also don't have the names of the officers. Local media described one of the officers as a 19-year veteran of the police force. That is the female officer who was shot. They are in stable condition.

Philly WPBI is now identifying the suspect as Nicholas Glen. This just in from our national assignment desk. Our Carmen Asan (ph) getting this information from us. Nicholas Glen, reported to be 25 years old, a local resident of west Philadelphia. We have done our own digging anticipating that he would be named officially, anticipating this information would come. This is an individual who has a criminal history. Back in 2009, he was listed as being part of a gang rape in Philadelphia. He was cleared of those charges. We don't know why. We know, as mentioned by the police commissioner, he had this note on him, this hatred towards a probation officer and the police, a rambling message. Whether or not that was targeted at his probation office or whether he was currently facing any charges, we don't know that. We are standing by for this press conference, hoping to hear more -- Poppy?

HARLOW: Nick, thank you very much for that reporting.

At 2:45 eastern is when the press conference was supposed to have begun, about 20 minutes ago. Philadelphia police commissioner, Richard Ross Jr will bring that to you live.

I do want to tell you about more breaking news this hour. A bomb exploding in New Jersey. This is a place where thousands of people this morning were scheduled to be on a charity run. There is the trash can where a small bomb went off a few minutes after the road race started. The start was unexpectedly delayed. No one was close by. No one was injured. Authorities have no doubt that whoever set the bomb knew what they were doing.

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[15:05:18] AL DELLA FAVE, COMMISSIONER, PHILADELPHIA POLICE DEPARTMENT: What the intentions were of the individual, we don't know at this point. Whether it is criminal or terroristic, it was obvious it was meant to affect the run, the fact that it went off at 9:35.

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HARLOW: On the phone with me, Shimon Prokupecz, justice producer, someone incredibly well-versed with law enforcement.

Shimon, you think back to the Boston Marathon bombing and you think about the devastation there. This was a much smaller device. Some of it did not detonate. There was the delayed start. No one was nearby. What else can you tell us?

SHIMON PROKUPECZ, CNN JUSTICE PRODUCER (voice-over): So it appears, yes. Obviously, much smaller type of device but, nonetheless, it could cause a lot of damage. I don't --

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HARLOW: Shimon, stand by with me. Stand by.

I want to take our viewers back to Philadelphia.

You are listening to Richard Ross Jr, the police commissioner in Philadelphia.

RICHARD ROSS JR, COMMISSIONER, PHILADELPHIA POLICE DEPARTMENT (voice- over): This individual fired at her at close range 18 times with a .9 millimeter Ruger. Most of those rounds did enter her vehicle. She was struck quite a few times. Fortunately, at least one or two were lodged in her ballistic vest. She took some rounds through the arm. He actually struck her service weapon twice and pretty much disabled it. There were rounds of hers on the floor of the vehicle. I don't even know if she would have been able to return fire if she had to, because he was able to disable it by striking it.

He then goes down to that bar and he fires five times into the bar where you know the security guard was struck. It was a female at that location that was struck in the leg as well. He fires an additional 14 times in the vehicle that we mentioned last night, the white vehicle, where a male was shot in the chest and a female, unfortunately, a 25-year-old female was pronounced last night at 1:56 a.m. It is a particularly tragic thing. Our hearts and prayers go out to her family as well as all the other victims.

I just left the hospital and talked to Sergeant Young. She is in good spirits given what she has been through. It is actually amazing she was actually sitting up. They were changing some of her bandages.

I also visited some of the civilian witnesses, particularly one of the men that was in the car with the unfortunate homicide victim. Obviously, other than being in some pain, he is coming along. We expect him to survive. I also visited with the security guard as well, and he is in good

spirits.

So this was a horrific night. Police did an absolutely fantastic job. The restraint they used during the foot pursuit down Sampson Street, is nothing short of miraculous, this guy is firing at everybody on the street that he sees. There are so many people out there that they probably elected not to discharge their weapons for fear of hitting innocent civilians. I cannot say enough about their restraint in what they did. In addition to which, this individual, during the course of his shooting spree, struck a police car, the two officers that were not hit with gunfire and responding to the scene. You know in that alley, engages with the officers and they eventually fire upon him and kill him. He fired at them multiple times. We know he had at least three magazines. And in addition to that, he had a plastic bag with somewhere in the neighborhood of 13-15 live rounds also with him.

It was just one of those things that's surreal. So many different people harmed in one incident. Obviously, he was hell-bent on hurting a lot of people. We still aren't absolutely clear as to why. We know from the letter we alluded to last night, he references issues he had with a probation officer and not particularly fond of police officers, but a lot of talking about himself and what he does and doesn't do, and issues he has about a whole bunch of other things. The envelope was actually entitled "Doomed." And he was referring to, I guess, anybody who was going to be in his path last night. Again, we do not know why. We have no indications he has ties to anyone or he had been radicalized or anything like that. We know he carried out one of the most violent actions we have seen in Philadelphia in a long time.

[15:10:08] It is particularly frustrating for us because, as you know, this is the second police officer this year that has been ambushed and even in district. We are absolutely astounded that they both survived. Jesse Hartnett and Sylvia Young had upwards of 35 rounds fired at them at close range while they were seated. She had to do much, like him, in leaning in that passenger seat to escape much of that gunfire. It is the quick thinking that helped to save her life.

Again, a bunch of carnage out there. Very, very saddened by the loss of life and this young lady. We are not releasing her name. I am not 100 percent confident that all of her family members have been notified.

Many of you already have her name. If you haven't released it yet, please don't until we can be certain of that.

We'll continue. He had a couple of addresses, which made it a little bit complicated for us. A family member was able to help us locate the place we believe he was staying at most recently. There is nothing in there that suggests there are ties to anything else. We found more ammunition inside of that location. Other than the ranting he had in that letter, we don't know what this was motivated by. We may never know in this case.

We are just hopeful that everyone else survives their wounds. And this is a horrific night. I am not just talking about the physical part of it but the psychological aspect of it, too, particularly when you are talking about the sergeant and the individual in the car with the female who died. Absolutely a horrible thing to go through for anybody. I can't imagine what that must be like.

Again, cannot say enough about the response of the police officers last night. Absolutely remarkable. I could not be more proud of their response.

I will take your questions at this time.

UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: (INAUDIBLE QUESTION)

ROSS: It had an obliterated serial number. We have to figure that out right now. We have to track it down.

UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: (INAUDIBLE QUESTION)

ROSS: I can't -- certainly can't explain if that's the first time he has ever used a gun. I don't know. Since the serial number was obliterated, we are going to have to work with ATF to get that raised and find out information about that particular information. I obviously cannot provide that to you right now as the status of the gun.

UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: (INAUDIBLE QUESTION).

ROSS: Ruger.

UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: Up you mentioned this special detail. Did it have to too with the spike in violence?

ROSS: We have mobile detail called mobile field forces. We do a lot of hot spot policing, a lot of places in the nation do. Identifying crime spikes and putting officers where they are need. This was a particular place we were concerned about. The sergeant, along with other officers were deployed there. She is from a particularly busy district herself, already, as you know, the 22nd district. That's why she was there.

UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: Is it because of that spiked up the presence there. Was it because of the Hartnett incident?

ROSS: No, we had some more unfortunate incidences. No, it wasn't because of Jesse Hartnett.

UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: Why yesterday? What about last night? Anything standing out at this point?

ROSS: No. Hopefully, in conversations with family members, his associates, someone will be able to tell us why. I'll tell you honestly from what I have been told about this letter, it is rambling. It would be very difficult to clean anything from that. It is more about himself than it wanted to harm. I am not a physician. I am not qualified to say whether someone was suffering mental illness. You would have no difficulty proving that to me. Clearly, there are some issues that were going on there. I am not making excuses for anybody. To violently fire upon so many different people that have no issue with you and didn't have any encounters, to do this, like this, it was absolutely horrific. We're saddened by the loss of life. We are fortunate that more people didn't die from this gunfire.

UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: Can you officially confirm the name?

[15:15:12] ROSS: I am being told his name is Nicholas Glen and he is 25. They had two different DOBs or dates of birth for him. 25 seems to be the one that is consistent, where it still keeps coming up significantly. He has a pretty significant past. They are still culling over that. It is pretty significant. Rather than give you a number, he was well-known to the police.

UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: Would you be able to say his family members, those that identified him, that he was a drug dealer in west Philadelphia and a suspect in 2009 gang rape in west Philadelphia?

UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: Can you confirm that for us?

ROSS: I cannot. That's one of the things I'm trying to find out.

I am being told by you guys about this 2009 rape and a lot of times you have more information than we do and you get it quicker. At issue for some was what was the disposition of that case? That's where I have absolutely no information on that. You are going to have to talk to public affairs or follow up with the district attorney's office. They probably would have more information on that.

UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: (INAUDIBLE QUESTION)

ROSS: No, he certainly didn't know the sergeant but he had an issue with his probation officer. I can't say it was talk of killing him as much as harming him and didn't really kill for him very much. Whether or not he was talking about people that would be in his path on Samson Street last night or speaking a generic way, I don't know. Unfortunately, we may not know. Because when I tell you I have been told repeatedly it was a bunch of rantings that was tantamount to nothing but rantings and on and on. It was apparently not the most lucid letter. It is very difficult for investigators. We won't stop there. We will try to find out what this could be about to make sure we could stave off future attacks, not just law enforcement but civilians. You hear us say all the time, why? What is meaningful or what's important for people to recognize when assaults on police officers happen. Well, last night probably captured that more than anything. If an individual can harm a law enforcement officer, they can harm anybody.

UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: Was he assisting? Was he on duty?

ROSS: He responded valiantly just like everybody else.

UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: He was on duty at the time?

ROSS: He was on duty. He was actually the first police officer shot at the scene and the officers from Philadelphia were able to remove him safely. He did discharge as well. Again, these officers responded valiantly and exhibited a great deal of bravery as well as restraint all along the way. Just absolutely responding in a way that we would want anymore to. Can't say enough about them.

UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: (INAUDIBLE QUESTION)

HARLOW: There you have it, Philadelphia's police commissioner, Richard Ross Jr, talking about that horrific rampage last night targeting six individuals, two of them police officers, taking the life of a 25-year-old woman. A lot to get to.

This is the second time this year that a police officer has been ambushed in Philadelphia. Here is what we know. The police commissioner identified the gunman with a 25-year-old with a significant past in terms of a criminal record. We know that 35 rounds were fired into a police car last night around 11:30 p.m. at two police officers. Then the shooter carried to a bar and shot additional rounds. Again, one woman is dead, five are injured, two of the injured are police officers, three are civilians.

As for a motive, the authorities in Philadelphia have no idea what the motive was. However, they say there was a letter written by the gunman entitled doom. They said he was hell-bent on hurting a number of people. He named a specific probation officer.

As you heard, Richard Ross Jr., the commissioner, saying this gunman carried out, quote, "One of the most violent attacks we have seen in Philadelphia in a long time."

Nick Valencia, following this with us.

Nick, we just heard the name, Nicholas Glen, the 25-year-old police believe carried this out last night. What do we know about him?

[15:20:16] VALENCIA: We know we have been digging into his criminal history. You heard the police chief answering questions. He was a suspect in a gang rape in 2009. The charges were later dropped in 2010. The police commissioner unable to give specifics but did say Nicholas Glen was well-known to police officers. He was hell-bent on hurting people, firing at least 35 times and not just at police officers but firing 14 times into a car with two civilians, where the one civilian, the woman, the 25-year-old, perished as a result of that. Highlighting this valiant and courageous effort of police to subdue this suspect as he's weaving in and out of people, innocent lives at stake as he is firing on people. Police having trouble stopping him but eventually did stop what is being described as a horrific night.

Poppy, it is worth mentioning there seems to be some planning involved in this. He had a plastic bag, 13-15 live rounds, and had taken off the serial number from the weapon he used in the attack -- Poppy?

HARLOW: But they don't know where the weapon came from.

VALENCIA: That's right.

HARLOW: Or how he got it.

Much more on our break news ahead.

Nick Valencia, thank you.

Also, this other breaking news in New Jersey at this Marine charity run this morning, a bomb going off in a garbage can where the race was supposed to start. It was delayed. What's behind this? That is straight ahead.

And politics, Donald Trump trying to disarm one controversy but gives his critics ammunition for another. Why the comments he made about Hillary Clinton and her bodyguards is drawing fire, next.

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[15:25:13] HARLOW: We want to get back to the other breaking news, a bomb exploding at the start of a charity run in New Jersey.

On the phone, Shimon Prokupecz, CNN crime and justice producer.

Shimon, we are looking at this image. The significance of this trash can with the bottom blown out. The significance is it was right at the location where the charity Marine run was supposed to begin, the beginning was delayed. So it just seems to be incredibly fortunate, just luck this did not explode at the start of the race. You are learning the FBI has taken the lead and three devices that appear to be made from had some sort of timer on them.

PROKUPECZ: That's right. Both Evan Perez and I have been making calls on this all day. The FBI within the last hour or so took the lead on this case and are treating this right now as a terrorist attack. There are two things here we are really fortunate about. The race started really late. There was no race. It never started because of the registration issue and because the other two pipe bombs did not go off. There are two things we are lucky about. They were somehow tethered together. One official said they were wired. Others were not clear how they together. They are all on a timer set to go off at the time runners will go past the location. It was a significant race for the Marines. The FBI is looking at this saying, is someone targeting the Marines and this is why they placed it there.

There are a lot of things still going on that people are trying to figure out. Specifically, they want to make sure people are no longer in danger. It seems that's the case. They rendered the devices all in one garbage can and did what they do, what bomb technicians do they feel the devices have been made safe.

HARLOW: Two things, sources are saying there don't appear to be any projectiles. This is what we saw in the Boston Marathon bombing. One would think that routes like this for big public races and gatherings would have dogs. Things, all the garbage cans would be checked, et cetera. Do we know anything about what checks took place and why this wasn't identified before one of the three exploded?

PROKUPECZ: That's a really good point and something that I thought about. When there is a Boston Marathon, these areas are swept. Any sort of thing that's along the route that someone can place something in it is removed. The NYPD does it. The Boston police do it. Manhole covers are welded during the races. Yes, that's something they will have to look at. That's a really good point. Usually, this is done on these marathons on races where you think a large number of people are going to gather.

HARLOW: Shimon, I am going to let you go and continue working your sources. Thank you so much for that.

A lot of breaking news this hour. A lot to get to.

Quick break. We'll be right back.

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[15:33:01] HARLOW: Today, Donald Trump is speaking about illegal immigration, just wrapping up that speech in Houston, focusing his message on the threat he says is posed by undocumented immigrants.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

DONALD TRUMP, (R), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: What do you tell the mother who just buried her daughter because someone was released at the border who should have been sent home or should have been imprisoned in another country? What do you tell the young boy who will grow up without a dad because a criminal was deported five times but was allowed to keep coming back and coming back and coming back into our country doing tremendous harm. What do you tell the wife who has lost her husband because a sanctuary city released an illegal immigrant from behind bars? This has to end. It will end if I become president. I promise you.

(CHEERING)

(END VIDEO CLIP)

HARLOW: Trump staying on his usual script when it comes to immigration and border control. It is an issue he has clearly owned this presidential campaign.

But when he stayed on message today on that, a lot of the buzz around his appearance today was for something he said last night at a rally. This comment seen as a renewed call by some -- some see it as a renewed call for violence against his opponent, Hillary Clinton.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

TRUMP: I think her bodyguards should drop all weapons. They should disarm.

(CHEERING)

TRUMP: I think they should disarm immediately. What do you think? Yes, yes.

(CHEERING)

TRUMP: Take their guns away. She doesn't want guns. Let's see what happens to her.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

HARLOW: CNN senior White House correspondent, Jim Acosta, was at that event in Houston. He joins me now.

Nick -- Jim, my apologies. Let's get to his immigration comments in a moment. Let's talk about what we just heard, what he said last night at that rally. Let me read it for you, talking about Hillary Clinton, "I think her bodyguards should drop all weapons, disarm immediately, take their guns away, let's see what happens to her." Reaction to that?

[15:35:13] JIM ACOSTA, CNN SENIOR WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT: That is what Donald Trump said last night. It is not the first time he has suggested or sarcastically said that perhaps people that support the second amendment might be able to do something about Hillary Clinton. He said that comment last month n, North Carolina, where he said maybe the second amendment people could do something about Hillary Clinton. He went on to say after that comment that he was being sarcastic about that. He obviously feels like he was being sarcastic about what he said last night in Miami. He tweeted about it overnight, did not take it back, did not offer an apology, did not express any kind of regrets about it.

We should point out, here in Houston, Poppy, at this event, he had a few moments ago, he had his protective detail with him all around this hotel. It is standard operating procedure for both of them to have that blanket of security around him at all times. It is surprising to hear him say something like that.

Getting back to the message of this event we saw today, he was getting back on script and message after days of controversies about the birth ser and last night in Miami with gun control and Hillary Clinton. He talked about illegal immigration in front of this group made up of families of victims of undocumented criminals. Trump accused Hillary Clinton of being in favor of open borders and not being in favor of at the U.S./Mexico border. He went on to say, if elected president, he will do that better than any president we have seen before.

Here is more of what he had to say.

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TRUMP: Every day our border remains open, innocent Americans are needlessly victimized and killed. Every day sanctuary cities are left in place, innocent Americans are put in harm's way. Every day we fail to enforce laws is a day -- and this is absolutely happening all the time -- is a day when a loving parent is at risk of losing their child. It is happening every single day. All across this country dining room tables have an empty seat at the family table.

(END VIDEO CLIP) ACOSTA: Unlike a lot of events where Donald Trump may veer off, he didn't do that. He did not talk about birth certificate comment that he tried to put to rest yesterday, didn't talk about Hillary Clinton and gun control.

He does have a rally later on tonight in Colorado Springs, Colorado. Just a little side note. We should point out, Trump is headed to a fundraiser in Oklahoma. He is not taking his traveling press corps with him. They are going on to Colorado to wait for him to deliver a speech at the rally there. It is unclear as to whether we will get any kind of readout in terms of what he says in Oklahoma -- Poppy?

HARLOW: Jim Acosta, live for us in Houston. Jim, thank you so much.

Coming up, Donald Trump's daughter, Ivanka, shutting down an interview on paid maternity leave when she was asked about this.

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TRUMP: A pregnancy is never -- it's a wonderful thing for the woman. It is a wonderful thing for the husband. It is certainly an inconvenience for a business.

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HARLOW: For the first time, both major party candidates in a presidential race are pushing for paid parental leave. Are they going far enough? What are they actually offering? Does their past give us an indication into whether they mean it? Next.

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[15:42:00] HARLOW: Today, we are going to be dedicated a significant part of this broadcast to the issues that many voters say are the most important to them this election season. That's the economy and jobs and specifically taxes.

What we are talking about right now, paid family leave. Donald Trump's daughter, Ivanka Trump, leading the charge on that issue with her father. She cut off an interview with "Cosmopolitan" magazine after getting questions she called negative about her father's views on pregnancy and working mothers.

Our Tom Foreman reports.

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TOM FOREMAN, CNN NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Poppy, the idea of federally mandated paid parental leave has long been a Democratic talking point. But Donald Trump is now putting it squarely on the Republican agenda, and it's rocky going.

IVANKA TRUMP, DAUGHTER OF DONALD TRUMP: The cost of child care has become so onerous and crushing, and so there needs to be a solution to this. FOREMAN (voice-over): Ivanka Trump is leading the charge for her

father's plan and taking heat. When "Cosmopolitan" brought up his 2004 quote about pregnancy --

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

TRUMP: The fact is it is an inconvenience for a person that is running a business.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

FOREMAN: -- she shot back, "I think you have a lot of negativity in these questions. I don't know how useful it is to spend too much time with you."

Before ending the interview, she called it, "an unfair characterization of his track record and his support of professional women."

(CHEERING)

TRUMP: Hello.

FOREMAN: Indeed, the Trump team started the week insisting is company gives eight weeks of paid leave to new parents. That turned tricky, too, after reports found otherwise they admitted it varies from one property to the next.

(CHEERING)

FOREMAN: Nonetheless, the campaign keeps ripping away at Hillary Clinton's claim that she is the lone champion for women in this race.

HILLARY CLINTON, (D), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: If fighting for affordable child care and paid family leave is playing the woman card, then deal me in.

FOREMAN: So, how do their plans compare? Among the main points, Clinton wants to give new parents 12 weeks of paid family or medical leave. Trump says paid maternity leave alone should be six weeks. Clinton wants no more than 10 percent of their income to go for child care. Trump would give them a tax break. Clinton wants free pre-K for all 4-year-olds. Trump wants to give families deductions for child care savings accounts to spend as they like.

TRUMP: We need working mothers to be fairly compensated for their work and have access to affordable, quality care for their kids.

CLINTON: Thank you.

FOREMAN: The Clinton campaign says Trump's tax breaks would help the well-off more than the working class. He won't offer similar help for new dads, leaving gay parents out.

Trump's own words from the past don't help much, describing child care as his wife's work. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

TRUMP: I won't do anything to take care of them. I'll supply the funds she'll take care of kids.

(LAUGHTER)

(CROSSTALK)

TRUMP: It's not like I'm going to be walking the kids down Central Park.

FOREMAN (on camera): Still, Team Trump is taking all the criticism and pushing on. After that rough interview with "Cosmopolitan," Ivanka took the magazine to task, tweeting, "Your readers do and should care about issues impacting women and children. Keep the focus where it belongs" -- Poppy?

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[15:45:26] HARLOW: Tom, thank you for that reporting.

Let's put this all in context. The United States is the only developed economy that does not guarantee any paid parental leave. But that's changing. Both Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton are pushing for government-funded plans for parental leave. Never before have presidential candidates from the Democratic and Republican parties offered these proposals for new parents. It's the first time a Republican presidential candidate in the general election has done so.

Let's talk about all of it with my panel, "CNN Money" correspondent, Cristina Alesci; Kayleigh McEnany and Krystal Ball are here. Kayleigh is for Trump, Krystal is for Clinton.

Cristina to you, the facts. How big is it that both candidates are backing government funded paid leave?

CRISTINA ALESCI, CNN MONEY CORRESPONDENT: It is incredible. It is the first time, as you said. It is also elevating the issue families. This isn't just a kitchen-table issue. It is weighing on our birth rate as a country.

HARLOW: Wow.

ALESCI: That has ripple effects throughout our economy. This is a big issue and a turning point.

The question for Trump is, does it help him. Does it help him with women and families? Women and families have to compare his plan to Hillary Clinton's plan. On the face, when you look at Hillary Clinton's plan, it has includes universal pre-K.

(CROSSTALK)

ALESCI: Exactly. Here plan includes that. So it's unclear how many women this will bring over to his side. It risks alienating the establishment Republicans who are very nervous about creating a new entitlement.

HARLOW: How are you going to pay for it?

ALESCI: Exactly. He says he is going to pay for it by ringing out fraud. A lot of economists and budget experts say ringing out fraud isn't a plan.

HARLOW: They try endlessly to do it.

Stay with me.

Krystal Ball, Kayleigh McEnany jump in here.

Kayleigh, to you, as a Trump supporter, this is a six-week plan. It doesn't include fathers. Why?

KAYLEIGH MCENANY, CNN POLITICAL COMMENTATOR: I think you would have to take it up with the campaign.

(CROSSTALK)

MCENANY: This is a revolutionary plan for a Republican candidate. It's time my party is saying this is an important issue.

(CROSSTALK)

HARLOW: I wonder if you think it showed or needs to include fathers. Not only are dads a huge part of the equation specially these days but also for same-sex couples.

MCENANY: That would be important. Here is what I like about Donald Trump. This is a negotiation. He realizes from some of the details he can change and evolve. He said details might change, the minor edges might change. But he is the first candidate to propose this. It is a great plan for women.

HARLOW: No doubt history has been made there.

Krystal, to you. Clinton's play is 12 weeks. You can get two-thirds of your paycheck funded by the government. She'd do it by increasing taxes on wealthy individuals. But you are dealing with a Republican- dominated Congress, right? She said in 2014, this is not looking likely to get something like this through right now. How likely could she get it passed paying for it that way?

KRYSTAL BALL, HILLARY CLINTON SUPPORTER: This is no longer a women's issue, as you are pointing out.

I want to thank you, Poppy, and Tom, for that terrific report, which was insightful and important. This is not a women's issue but a family issues.

As you mentioned, more and more fathers aren't the bread winners in the family. More of these responsibilities are shared, Donald Trump's conventional attitudes towards women, notwithstanding. Leaving fathers out on the Trump side is a problem. For women and men alike, the policy is important. How does this person feel about me? Are they really going to fight for me? I think that's where Donald Trump's past comments and policies are a real problem. He said that a breastfeeding woman was disgusting. He lied about child care policies at his businesses. He has never provided child care.

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HARLOW: That's not exactly the case that Trump has not provided that for employees.

BALL: -- Megyn Kelly, et cetera.

[15:49:52] HARLOW: It's not the case that Trump has not provided that for employees.

I want to dig into this with Kayleigh.

Ivanka Trump came out in the ABC interview and said all Trump employees get eight weeks. It's actually not the case. CNN, in fact, fact-checked it. You know it's not the case. A handbook came from one of the Trump International Hotels and it's only government-funded unemployment benefits. Do the practices across the organization now need to meet the policy that he's proposing?

MCENANY: The fact is a lot of the Trump organization does provide paid leave that's important.

(CROSSTALK) HARLOW: But a lot doesn't. Not all.

MCENANY: But a lot do. And the question for Krystal is, we talk about Hillary Clinton's great devotion to this cause. She's had three decades in government to achieve this, as first lady and secretary of state, not done it. She's had three decades and no time --

HARLOW: Krystal, quickly.

BALL: She hasn't had much of a partner on the other side. This is revolutionary plan from Trump in terms of working families but it's a low bar on the Republican side. Opposed everything, any paid leave, making us an outsider and pariah in the world for what we provide the working family.

HARLOW: It's interesting that even Marco Rubio proposed something. Both sides are talking about it. Very important for American families.

Thank you so much, Christina, Kayleigh, Krystal.

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HARLOW: Coming up, the Kremlin going gaga for a new movie by an American director. Ahead, why Russian leaders are apparently thrilled about Oliver Stone's new film about NSA leaker, Edward Snowden. You've live in the CNN NEWSROOM.

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[15:55:15] HARLOW: Oliver Stone's new movie "Snowden" opening in theaters this weekend. Actor Jason Gordon-Levitt playing Edward Snowden revealing U.S. government NSA surveillance of private individuals when he showed classified documents to journalists. Look.

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JASON GORDON-LEVITT, ACTOR: I just want to get this data to the world.

Hey, hey.

I feel like I'm made to do this. If I don't do it, I don't know anybody else that can.

This I everything I have. They're going to figure out what I've done.

UNIDENTIFIED ACTOR: Did you access --

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HARLOW: The Kremlin is heaping praise on this film, calling it, quote, "brilliant."

The real-life Edward Snowden wants to come home to the U.S. and end his exile in Russia and has asked President Obama for a reprieve. Days later, the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence blasted Snowden in a report calling him a traitor who put his country at risk.

Let's bring in CNN media critic, Brian Lowry, to talk the new film.

You saw it, and it's getting enthusiastic reception from Russia we hear. The Kremlin calling it practically a documentary. Are they right?

BRIAN LOWRY, CNN MEDIA CRITIC: Well, no, not really. It's very much a drama and, in some respects, it suffers by comparison to the very good Oscar-winning documentary made about the story, "Citizen Ford." I think the challenge is Director Oliver Stone tried to turn it into a thriller and doesn't quite gel. As well as fact these are complicated issues in terms of the information that Snowden acquired and it doesn't do terrifically well in terms of conveying what was at stake with that.

HARLOW: And issue is movies like this, where so many people will form an opinion one way or another, and that brings up portrayal that Oliver Stone has chosen to make. Some are criticizing it saying it is overly sympathetic. Agree?

LOWRY: It is certainly extremely sympathetic portrayal. As far as the impact the movie will have, it opened on Friday night, did about $3 million business, is projected to make something around $9 million for the weekend, less than anticipated going in. I don't think this movie is going to be popular enough to change the conversation around Edward Snowden.

I think if it gets Oscar attention -- and Joseph Gordon-Levitt, who stars, has a greater chance than the movie, that keep in conversation for a while but ultimately it won't change things.

HARLOW: Timing here, it comes out this weekend and, just this week, Snowden puts in the pardon request.

LOWRY: I think that was shrewd on Snowden's part, in terms of whatever attention brought to the story would be in the promotion and advertising surrounding the movie. That was Snowden going onto it. One of the more awkward things about the movie, which could be its own documentary, is the contortions that Stone went through to go to Russia to put some actual footage of Snowden in the movie, which struck me as awkward and a little over the top in terms of pressing his case.

HARLOW: How does it stack up as film overall with other Oliver Stone films, tackling other historical subjects like "JFK" or "Nixon," where does this fall?

LOWRY: He's not a director known for his subtlety. And this is heavy handed in certain respects. It has a sensational central performance but it falls very much -- not as fluid as "JFK" or "Nixon," but it's clear where the sympathies lie and that's the fact that Snowden is both a hero and a patriot.

HARLOW: Brian Lowry, thank you so much.

You can read the review on CNN.com.

We appreciate it.

LOWRY: Thank you.

HARLOW: Top of the hour. I'm Poppy Harlow. Thanks for joining us.

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