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Latest on New York and Minnesota Terror Attacks; India-Pakistan Tensions Rising Following Attack on Indian Military Base; UN General Assembly Opens. Aired 3-4a ET

Aired September 19, 2016 - 03:00   ET

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[03:00:00] NATALIE ALLEN, CNN NEWSROOM SHOW HOST: And welcome back to our live coverage. I'm Natalie Allen.

We're following breaking news on two separate investigations first Saturday night's bombing in New York City.

GEORGE HOWELL, CNN NEWSROOM SHOW HOST: I'm George Howell. Thank you for being with us.

The FBI says that it made a traffic stop with police on Sunday of a vehicle of interest in that case. It happened on a bridge.

And as of now we're told no one has been arrested or charged and that the investigation is ongoing. There may be another coup as well to tell you about. Investigators telling CNN that a man was seen in surveillance video at the site of the explosion.

And near where police found this, a pressure cooker that was discovered just four blocks away. It was rigged with what you see there, wires, duct tape and appears to have a cell phone attached but did not explode.

ALLEN: We are also following a separate development in New Jersey. Police detonated a suspicious device found in a wastebasket in Elizabeth, New Jersey about 30 minutes outside of Manhattan.

The city's mayor said as many as five devices in all were discovered in a back pack. And he says the men who found it saw wires and a pipe and contacted authorities. The FBI and state police are investigating. The devices were found near a rail line train service.

Deborah Feyerick is tracking the development in New York for us.

HOWELL: But first, let's go to CNN's Rachel Crane live in Elizabeth of New Jersey with details on the suspicious devices that were discovered there, Rachel.

RACHEL CRANE, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, George, the local authority as the FBI and bomb squad responding to that backpack, which has in it, the mayor tells us up to five devices.

Now, as you pointed out one of those devices was accidentally detonated when a robot was trying to cut one of the wires. Take a listen to what the mayor had to say.

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CHRIS BOLLWAGE, Elizabeth, NEW JERSEY MAYOR: The robots that were going in to disarm it cut a wire and it exploded. I don't know the technological aspect of that. I know there are other devices. I don't know what they are made up of, but they are going to have to be removed. And all of the fragments from the other piece are going to try to have to be picked up so the FBI can investigate this fully.

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CRANE: Now, George and Natalie, I just happened to be on the phone with the mayor at the time when that device was accidentally detonated. I could hear the boom through the phone.

Now, the mayor also went on to tell us that there was no timer or cell phone that was connected to these devices. Now, let me back up for you and tell you how we became -- how they stumbled upon this suspicious package.

Two men saw a backpack in the trash can. They took out the backpack, look inside of it thinking they would stumble upon something valuable. Instead, they saw wires and a pipe. They dropped the backpack went around the corner to a local police station; the police responded that's when they called in the FBI and the bomb squad.

Now, the surrounding area has been secured. The streets closed off. They also did a sweep around the area, they did not find anything. Now, this trash can located very close to the train station here in Elizabeth, also very close to a local pub.

The mayor tells us there is surveillance cameras there that should have some footage in them that will be valuable to the authorities.

Now, the train service has been suspended right now between Newark Liberty National Airport and Elizabeth, New Jersey, that of course being on the northeast corridor where 750,000 people travel every single day unclear when service will be restored.

As the mayor pointed out to me, though, this is the perfect case of when you see something, say something. Those two individuals going to the local authorities that's what helps this situation gets under control and nobody was injured, George and Natalie.

ALLEN: All right. Well, Rachel, thank you for staying with that story there and I guess people will be waking up, commuters to find out whether or not they have a way to get to their jobs via the train.

Thank you, Rachel Crane for us there.

HOWELL: The transition now into New York, the investigation there. CNN's Deborah Feyerick is following the developments in our New York bureau.

Deborah, so as far as we know there was this traffic stop that happened on a bridge, what more can you tell us about that?

DEBORAH FEYERICK, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, there was a traffic stop at about 8.45 Sunday evening. And we do know that this was a vehicle of interest, that's how the FBI described it, but they also say no one has been charged with any crime. Obviously a lot of question.

How this vehicle become a vehicle of interest? The investigators right now are following a lot of threads a lot of really strong clues that they've developed over the course of the last 24 hours.

[03:05:03] We can tell you that sources now tell CNN that law enforcement has surveillance video of the man they believe was near both the dumpster, but also the second location.

Now, the man was rolling a black duffel bag. He is seen at the dumpster on West 23rd Street. He then makes his way north up to 27th Street, four blocks, leaves both -- leaves the duffel bag and then walks away. Two men subsequently come up, open the duffel bag, take out the device and walk away with the duffel bag.

Now it's unclear what connection they have to this particular incident, whether they just wanted to take the duffel back. But 40 minutes elapses from the time that man is identified on the surveillance video to the time the bomb detonates.

And investigators did find a cell phone on the device that did not detonate, that is a crucial piece of evidence that they're looking at, very closely to see whether any calls were made into that phone, because that could lead them to identify who may have been in that area and what number they may have been calling from.

A source, earlier, telling me the fact that there's a cell phone involved could suggest that it was used as a detonator to explode the device and that the call could have been made from anywhere. Now, police officers did find that second device they were doing a sweep of the area once the first bomb exploded.

And that's when they found that the New York bomb squad was able, today, to render the device safe, that means they were able to send it down to the FBI lab in Quantico for a more thorough analysis. But the two big questions right now, who did this? Why did they do this?

And they're looking at multiple connections to multiple incidents that seem to be occurring, really, in this -- in this now 36-hour span. But keep in mind, it is the United Nations General Assembly. It's going to be in New York City this week. You've got a lot of world leaders who were coming to town.

The security was already tight. It's going to be even tighter, as the FBI, the NYPD, the ATF, all of them work very closely together in order to try to find out exactly what is going on here.

ALLEN: Absolutely, some busy times there. And we do want to say the good news is the people that were wounded are now all out of the hospital and doing OK.

HOWELL: Yes.

ALLEN: So, that's the one good thing we have, very much grateful for that. Thank you, Deborah Feyerick there in New York.

HOWELL: Deb, thank you.

Now all of these developments come after another incident in New Jersey on Saturday. This was an explosion in a trash can that happened in Seaside Park near Marine Corps charity race.

ALLEN: The authorities say they found three devices similar to pipe bombs all wired together. No one was injured in that blast. And as of now, the investigators are not linking it to what happened in New York.

And just before Saturday's explosion happened in New York City, stabbings at a shopping mall in St. Cloud, Minnesota, wounded at least nine people, one critically there. The FBI investigating what happened as a potential act of terror. One witness who works at the mall describes what she saw.

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: All of a sudden chaos just broke out. There was a bunch of people running into the J.C. Penney mall entrance and they are just screaming in that someone was going around the mall stabbing people and that there was blood everywhere.

And it was just honestly a really scary experienced. I dropped everything in my hand and booked it back to my co-worker to notify her what was going on. I ran out a different exit out of our J.C. Penney, which led straight to the parking lot and I just kind of jumped in my car and sped off as fast as I could.

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HOWELL: Police say the attacker appears to have acted alone. The city's mayor praised the off duty police officer who shot and killed the suspect.

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DAVE KLEIS, ST. COULD MINNESOTA MAYOR: He clearly prevented additional injuries and potentially loss of life. His heroic actions are exemplary and having witnessed what he did as the suspect was lunging at him with a knife. Not only did he fire, the suspect went down and he came back up on three different occasions.

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HOWELL: Officials say there is no clear connection for all of the attacks that we've seen on U.S. soil since Saturday, but the timing, that is raising a lot of questions about possible motive.

ALLEN: Saijan Gohel is the international security director for the Asia-Pacific Foundation, a frequent guest of ours to help us figure out these complex situations and these threats. He joins us live via Skype from London. Saijan, thank you so much for joining us. What do you make about the timing of this?

[03:10:02] SAIJAN GOHEL, ASIA-PACIFIC FOUNDATION INTERNATIONAL SECURITY DIRECTOR: Well, certainly, Natalie, it's worth remembering that these incidents have come soon after the 15-year anniversary of 9/11. There was concern and fear that anniversary could coincide with attacks.

But equally, we know that terrorists themselves would be aware that security would have been elevated during that period, perhaps they waited to do something afterwards.

The question I guess remains that, was this an act of international terrorism of lone wolf terrorism, domestic terrorism. It is an act of terrorism ultimately. The intention was to kill many men and injure as many people as possible. And we're very fortunate that there was no fatalities in this incident.

HOWELL: Saijan, you talk about the word terrorism, and let's get into the semantics of that word, simply because we know that the governor of New York is calling it terrorism. The City of New York, as the investigation continues, is not classifying this as terrorism, per se.

Obviously, they have information that they're using and that they're looking into the case. They have reason for doing that. But from what you read into it, can you just kind of -- give our viewers an understanding as to why there may seem to be some difference between, you know, why some would say terrorism and others may not at this point.

GOHEL: Well, George, in many ways these are differences without a clear distinction because if you look at the devices in New York, for example, that the authorities these were pressure cookers with nails, they've had timed devices. This was designed to go off and kill people.

And the second device may have also been timed in a way that it would hit people running in a specific direction. Now, this is something that we've seen in the past with terrorism, some are drawing comparisons with the devices that were used at the Boston marathon bombing a few years ago.

This is something, I'm afraid, that we're seeing now far too often, whether it is directed by a large transactional terrorist group or an individual that is acting on his own. We have seen more incidents and sometimes they lack the skill and ingenuity to be able to pull off a successful attack that is fortunate.

And it's going to ultimately come down to the investigation by the NYPD, the joint terrorism task force in New York, perhaps using CCTV footage to see who the suspect or suspects were. We will find out in sooner rather than later. I don't believe that this will remain unclear.

ALLEN: Yes. They have a lot of different leads and putting all the pieces of puzzle together. So, yes, somebody is behind this. We don't know who but we have been talking, Saijan, for the past few weeks that the ISIS story as they lose territory in Iraq and Syria, they've been encouraging these loan wolf attacks elsewhere.

So that is something to follow. And also, just recently, drone strike killed the head of propaganda for ISIS, as well.

GOHEN: Well, that individual that you mentioned Abu Muhammad al- Adnani was a very significant member of ISI. He wasn't just in charge of propaganda but he was head of the external operations. Whenever he issued a message, he tended to motivate and spur on a lone wolf attacks the world.

And in his death, there's been this concern that there could be revenge reprisal attacks globally. We have to keep in mind that as ISIS loses territory in Iraq and Syria you can use the analogy for cornered rank and like that the rank is trying to attack to try and show that it's still in control. That it still has power that can still assert itself and unfortunately, what we're seeing is in many ways the new normal.

Where these incidents will keep happening the authorities will keeping having to disrupt them, sometimes luck will be required but the device isn't able to actually kill and hurt people, and unfortunately, timing will also be significant, too, as was mentioned earlier that these incidents coincide with the U.N. general assembly meeting.

If the attack can kill people it is designed to prey disruption. That is always the main secondary goal of terrorism regardless of what the ideological motivation i.

HOWELL: Saijan Gohel live for us giving insight into this situation and so many different situation to talk about. But important to point out, Saijan, that no international terror group has been, you know, has labeled any responsibility or any claims that what we've seen in New York in New Jersey, so we'll...

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ALLEN: Still a mystery for sure.

HOWELL: Absolutely, investigators staying on it. Saijan, thank you.

Let's turn to other stories now that we're following around the world. Air strikes hit the city of Aleppo for the first time since the Syrian ceasefire brokered by the U.S. and Russia last Monday. It's not clear yet who is behind Sunday's attacks on rebel-held areas.

Officials say at least one person was killed.

[03:15:02] ALLEN: Yes, the truce was already at risk after a coalition air strike killed or wounded dozens of Syrian troops, you're seeing them here in Syria. U.S. forces say they thought they were hitting ISIS fighters.

But Russia, now, accuses the U.S. the cause of this of defending ISIS and failing to meet its obligations under the ceasefire. The U.S. Secretary of State told CNN, the other side, Russia, is undermining the truce, so it's back and forth.

HOWELL: So, the seven-day ceasefire expire. It expired about 10 hours ago and there's been no announcement of an extension so far.

CNN's Fred Pleitgen is live in Damascus this hour following the situation. Fred, what is the sense on the ground there now that the ceasefire has expired, there's so many people who, just hoping for peace?

FREDERIK PLEITGEN, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Yes, they certainly are, George. And I would say that the ceasefire was fragile to begin with, and we saw those breaches really increase over the past couple of days. I was in Aleppo just yesterday and you could really feel how there was an uptick in violence there.

You can see that there were more artillery strikes, you could see there was back and forth shooting going on, and then also some air strikes that we heard as well. Nevertheless, the people on the ground are hoping that device, by some miracle, the ceasefire could hold.

We were actually in one neighborhood where people were already beginning to pick up the pieces. Here is what we saw.

Driving through a battered city, the ceasefire is barely holding in Aleppo. Breaches becoming more frequent. Still the residents are cleaning up. Even the youngest.

Holly (Ph) is 12 years old. He and his siblings among the many displaced now finding shelter in a bombed out hospital.

"We have to keep working until we totally clear this room and the next door," he says, "because this is going to be our new home." As calm prevails, at least most of the time, the Syrian government is moving an increasing number of displaced people into the bombed out ruins of former front line district.

These families forced to move several times. The baby, Abdul Malik, born in a tent. "We lost three homes," his grandmother said, everyone got destroyed. Now we're displace, if we had the money we would flee.

Despite the fact that the ceasefire is very fragile the people here aren't wasting any time. They're getting to work picking up the pieces hoping that against all odds the truce may hold.

And while few are optimistic about the chances, some like Hussam Mosri (Ph) also displaced several times say even the current tenuous ceasefire is a blessing.

"The ceasefire is good so far," he says, "I've been here a few days and the situation is better. We can hear some shelling but that's much less than before."

As the waring factions and their backers struggle to keep the truce alive, Aleppo's people like 12-year-old Ali (Ph) hope the hard work they're putting in will not be wasted again.

And you know, while those people are really hoping that the ceasefire might last, George, there are a lot of things that seem to be working against the ceasefire, if you will. On the one hand you have those air strikes that took place in Aleppo. You also of course had that coalition air strike on those Syrian troops that happened over the weekend.

But one of the main things that really seem to be undermining the truce and the calm is the fact that aid deliveries aren't getting through yet, especially to those districts in eastern Aleppo, where the U.N. says its trucks are still stranded at the border.

And the customs area they're awaiting permission from the Syrian government to be able to move but also awaiting permissions from the various rebel factions in the territory leading up to Aleppo as well. And, of course, very importantly also safety guarantees for its people on the ground as well, George.

HOWELL: In fact, that was one of the main aims of this ceasefire, to get that aid into the people who need it most.

Fred Pleitgen, live for us in Damascus. Fred, we appreciate your reporting there and we'll stay in touch with you.

This is CNN Newsroom. And still ahead, a deadly attack in an army base in the disputed Kashmir region.

ALLEN: And it has triggered renewed tensions between India and Pakistan. We'll have a live report when we come back.

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KATE RILEY, CNN WORLD SPORT ANCHOR: I'm Kate Riley with your CNN World Sport headlines.

The honeymoon is over for Jose Mourinho the so-called special one. Manchester United have lost that last three games within the space of a week. The latest was at 3-1 loss to Watford this Premier League on Sunday. The Red Devils gave the ball away allowing Watford to take the lead at half-time despite Marcus Rashford's goal just after the hour, United walked away from the match with their heads down.

South Korea's In Gee Chun led all four rounds before winning the Evian Championship and posted a new record score in the process. The 22- year-old was 19 under after three rounds that was the best ever, 54- hole score in a women's major.

And by the end of the tournament she had increased it to 21 under. Chun carded a final round score of 69, making this tournament her second major title after winning the U.S. Open last year.

And Argentina pin their hopes on Leonardo Mayer to take on Dan Evans in the Davis Cup on Sunday, the 29-year-old late replacement for Juan Martin del Potro didn't buckle under the pressure, he rose above it and took the match. Argentina knocked Great Britain out of the race, we'll go into the final for the fifth time.

And that's a look at all your sports headlines. I'm Kate Riley.

ALLEN: If you are just joining us we're following breaking news on two separate investigations in the northeast first Saturday night's bombing in New York City. The FBI said it made a traffic stop with police on Sunday, where that's video there just after the explosion.

But that traffic stop was the vehicle that they had -- they were looking at for interest in the case. We don't know much about it. As of now, we're told that no one has been arrested or charged and this investigation ongoing.

HOWELL: There may be another clue as well to tell you about, investigators are telling CNN that a man was seen in surveillance video at the site of that explosion and near where police found this, there was a pressure cooker that was discovered four blocks away. The pressure cooker rigged with wires, duct tape, what appeared to be a cell phone but it did not explode.

Also following a separate development in New Jersey, police there detonating a suspicious device that was discovered in a wastebasket in Elizabeth, New Jersey.

ALLEN: By just passersby that were just on alert. The city's mayor said as many as five devices in all were discovered in a backpack. And he says the men who saw it, saw wires and a pipe and contacted, as I mentioned, authorities.

The FBI, state police are still there investigating. And the devices were found near a rail line and train service in that area has been affected, we don't know for how long.

HOWELL: We'll stay on top of this, the situation in New Jersey also, you know, the traffic stop that was made in New York. A lot happening this night.

[03:25:00] Also other news we're following around the world, tensions racketing back up between India and Pakistan, this after 17 soldiers were killed when militants attacked an army base an Indian administered Kashmir on Sunday.

ALLEN: So many flash points areas are now sadly another one, four militants died in a gun battle near the India/Pakistan border in this disputed region. This was one of the deadliest strikes of security force in this area in the past three decades.

HOWELL: Let's go live to New Delhi. Our bureau chief there Ravi Agrawal joins us now with more on Sunday's attack. Ravi, good to have you this hour with us.

Can you explain first of all the significance and what you're hearing from Indian ministers about this?

RAVI AGRAWAL, CNN INTERNATIONAL'S NEW DELHI BUREAU CHIEF: George, this is a very significant attack for India because Kashmir or at least this part of Kashmir have been fairly quiet for a while.

On Sunday, early in the morning, four militants attacked an army base in the town of Uri. Uri is right by the mile of control, which is a line divides Kashmir into India administered and Pakistani administered Kashmir. The town of Uri has been fairly peaceful over the last decade.

So, this sort of bursts that bubble that we've seen for the last few years. Now 17 Indian military men were killed in this attack, 7 more are in a critical condition even now. The militants were carrying AK- 47's and hand grenades. And you could see the smoke from that attack pluming over the entire town.

So, very significant attack that India is taking very, very seriously. New Delhi wasted no time responding to that attack. India's home minister was number two in the Indian government said that Pakistan is likely responsible.

He called it a terrorist state that needs to be dealt with as much.

And that came after an Indian army official said that he claimed to have found, what he called quote, unquote "Pakistani markings on the gear on some of the militants who were killed."

So, very serious accusations from the Indian side that maybe Pakistan is responsible for Sunday's attack. Pakistan, of course, completely denies this. It's calling those allegations baseless and irresponsible.

HOWELL: Ravi Agrawal, live in New Delhi following the story. Ravi, thank you for the reporting

This is CNN Newsroom. We'll be right back after the break.

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HOWELL: Welcome back to our viewers here in the United States and around the world. You're watching CNN Newsroom. I'm George Howell.

ALLEN: And I'm Natalie Allen. Let's check our top stories this hour.

War planes hit rebel targets in Aleppo Syria killing at least one person. Activists say they're the first air strike in Aleppo since the ceasefire began last Monday. It's not clear who is responsible for those strikes.

HOWELL: The FBI says that is investigating Saturday night's stabbing in St. Cloud, Minnesota as a potential act of terror. A lone attacker wounded 19 people at a shoping mall. He was shot and killed by an off- duty police officer.

ALLEN: Agents and police made a traffic stop Sunday night in New York bombing investigation, no one has been arrested or charged, as of now, but they did have reasons to stop and make some questions to the people in that SUV. Also, investigators say they're looking for a man seen in surveillance

video at the site of Saturday's explosion and near where police found this pressure cooker four blocks away.

HOWELL: And now a separate investigation to tell you about. This one in Elizabeth, New Jersey that city's mayor said as many as five suspicious devices were found inside of a backpack.

CNN's correspondent Rachel Crane is live in Elizabeth, New Jersey with the very latest in this investigation. Rachel, what more do you know?

CRANE: Well, George, the FBI, local authorities and the bomb squad responding to that backpack that the mayor says could have up to five devices on it. Now, one of those devices was unintentionally detonated when the bomb squad was using a robot and the robot cut one of the wires. Take a listen to what the mayor had to say.

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BOLLWAGE: The robots that we're going in to disarm it, cut a wire and it exploded. I don't know the technological aspect of that. I know there are other devices. I don't know what they are made up of, but they are going to have to be removed. And all of the fragments from the other piece are going to try to have to be picked up so the FBI can investigate this fully.

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CRANE: Now, Natalie and George, the mayor told us that those devices did not have a timer or a cell phone connected to them. I happened to be on the phone with the mayor at the time of that detonation and I could actually hear the boom through the phone.

Now, the mayor just told us that those devices are still on the premises, that the bomb squad is working on encasing them and that they will ultimately go to Quantico where the FBI will continue this investigation.

Now, this all began this evening when two gentlemen saw a backpack in a trash can. They thought that there could be something valuable in that trash can, that's when they opened it and saw what they said was a pipe and several wires.

They left the backpack, went around to the corner to the police station, that's when they told police, the police responded. They confirmed what those two gentleman had said. They called in the FBI and the bomb squad.

Now this area around us has been secure, the FBI, the bomb squad, those local authorities did a sweep to make sure that there were no other suspicious packages. And in fact, there were none.

Now, this trash can very close to the train station here in Elizabeth, New Jersey also very close to a local pub that the mayor tells us does has surveillance cameras at. Now train transportation on the New Jersey -- on the northeast

corridor rather, has been suspended for the moment between Newark, Liberty International Airport and Elizabeth, New Jersey.

Of course, we're approaching the morning commute Monday morning and 750,000 people ride the northeast corridor every single day, unclear when it will be restored.

Now, this is the second bomb -- or the second device, rather, that has been detonated in the state of New Jersey in less than 48 hours. But it's important to point out, that no connection has yet been made between these two instances, George and Natalie.

HOWELL: Very important point to point out as you rightly suggest here from investigators, no connection to what happened there in New Jersey with the investigation that's still on going in New York.

[03:35:08] Rachel Crane, live for us in Elizabeth. Thank you so much for the reporting. We'll stay in touch with you, as well.

ALLEN: We are broadcasting in the U.S. and all around the world, so we want to take you around the world right now, because one of the busiest tropical seasons in Japan is getting even busier.

Yet, another typhoon is headed for the region. Our meteorologist Pedram Javaheri he's been a busy man with a lot to watch, a lot of things circling around the globe. Pedram?

HOWELL: Hi, Pedram.

PEDRAM JAVAHERI, CNN METEOROLOGIST: Hey, you guys, good seeing you. You know, this has been a trend that's followed for so many weeks in a row going back the last five to six weeks. And we got a category three typhoon that's approaching your country. This is kind of what you hope for as far as diminishing very quickly.

This is what we're seeing last couple of hours on approach the land. Kagoshima by the way, home to about 600,000 people based on 2010 census. And the reason, Natalie, said this has been such an active season if you go back since the fifth of August, this would be the sixth storm that made landfall across the portions of Japan.

So, it just continues one after another across this region, damage, of course has been done in recent days with some of these typhoons coming in. We know the soil is also fully saturated as well. But the storm itself is on the move, and unfortunately, we're still on the tropical activity across this portion of the world.

From September into October, you would still see several typhoons around the Western Pacific every single month. So, we still had climatologically speaking other five to six more of these left scattered about the region.

Of course, but here is the track as far as the initial estimation, and you notice it kind of parallels the coast of Japan, very densely populated area. For your travel plans it takes you out towards Tokyo, the forecast tells the tail here in degrees Celsius going to the lower 20s, which is around the mid-70s Fahrenheit.

But notice rain almost every single day, at least each of the next four to five days across this region of Japan with this disturbance cruising by. And we're also watching what's happening with tropical storm Paine.

The storm is forecasts to become a hurricane over the next couple of hours. And taking a track that would take it parallel to Baja, California, and you notice it does move over the land over the northern tier of California. In that case, it would actually bring rainfall towards southern California and Arizona on the final day of summer, which would be on Wednesday, so something worth noting across that region.

And still getting a lot of rainfall here in the last couple of days of summer, in particular around the northeastern U.S. These are Marlboro region out towards New York City, between 7 and 10 in the morning today we'll get some very heavy rainfall that will work its way across that region.

And the area is underneath some moderate to severe drought in spots. So, certainly some beneficial rain across that region. But notice the temperature trend, the mid-70s with all the clouds today, the mid-80s come back in the forecast going in from Tuesday to Wednesday for parts of the northeast, Natalie and George.

So, we get one last breath of summer, some people are tired of it perhaps. We're going to get some more summer-like heat for at least a couple more days here, guys.

ALLEN: Yes, yes, because we keep hitting those heat records.

JAVAHERI: Yes.

ALLEN: So, yes, 84 in New York and that's kind of odd.

HOWELL: Thanks, Pedram.

ALLEN: Thank you.

Of course, we're talking about the U.N. General Assembly that will be attacking the refugee problem. Coming up here we'll look into some people caught in a no man's land.

HOWELL: We'll look at serious so-called ghost.

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HOWELL: Welcome back to CNN Newsroom. And updating the breaking news this hour, first the very latest on Saturday night's bombing in New York City.

The FBI and police made a traffic stop Sunday night. They pulled over a vehicle of interest in the case. It happened on a bridge, we're told. And one person -- no one has been charged or arrested in the case. The investigation still on going.

ALLEN: Also investigators now looking for a man that they have seen in surveillance video at the site of the explosion and near where police found this pressure cooker four blocks away, as we reported, it was rigged with wires, duct tape and what appeared to be a cell phone, but it did not explode.

And we're following a separate development in Elizabeth, New Jersey. The city's mayor there says as many as five suspicious devices were found in a backpack Sunday night inside a wastebasket.

HOWELL: Also, I want to show you this, we just got new video showing a police robot detonating one of those devices. Now we're hearing now that other -- the four others are being transferred in protection -- protective cases, I should say, for more investigation. The devices were found near a rail line, the train service, we understand, has been affected in that area.

ALLEN: Well, we all know this is going to be a busy week in New York. The U.N. General Assembly began, one of the biggest diplomatic events in the world right there in Manhattan.

This years' assembly it will also feature the U.N.'s first ever summit on the migrant and refugee crisis. More than 75,000 Syrian refugees stranded between Jordan and Syria are a big part of that crisis and we probably don't talk about them enough.

But our Jomana Karadsheh got a rare look at the conditions that they're living in and she joins us now from Amman, Jordan. Jomana, hello.

JOMANA KARADSHEH, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Hi, Natalie. We've reported extensively from this region about Syrian refugees who are living in camps, Syrian refugees or urban refugees living in cities and in towns. But these tens of thousands of Syrian refugees are living in the middle of nowhere, in a place that according to aid agencies, is not a refugee camp.

They fled their homes in search of safety, but this is where their journey ended, in makeshift graveyard in no man's land between Jordan and Syria. Dozens are set to be buried here. This desolate desert known as "the berm" is where more than 75,000 Syrian refugees have been stranded for months surviving almost on nothing.

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NATALIE THURTLE, MEDECINS SANS FRONTIERES FIELD DOCTOR: They can't go back, they can't come forward into Jordan and they are not really even committed to exist where they are. They're sort of being in the city phased out to the existence or makes left as ghost. They're not seen and they're not recognized by any entity.

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KARADSHEH: As Jordan tightened its border with Syrian late last year allowing only small numbers of refugees across, the population at the berm grew. In June, access for aid agencies became impossible after a suicide attack by ISIS on Jordanian border guard killed at least six troops, the kingdom sealed off the berm, declaring it a closed military zone.

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THURTLE: There's been one food drop since the bombing and that was for 30 days and that ran out on the second of September. So, there's no meaningful sanitation there. There's no protection. There's no access to health care.

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KARADSHEH: The world food program had to use a crane to make that single food drop into the berm in early August. Our request to visit the area were denied by the Jordanian military, citing security concerns.

[03:44:58] But through Syrian activists and cell phone footage filmed for CNN we got a glimpse into the dire living conditions. In the scourging desert heat in a makeshift tents they've been receiving limited amounts of water.

There have been reports of newborn deaths. Deaths from hepatitis outbreak and cases of severe dehydration. This mother says she's been in the berm for about a year. Her baby girl has no milk, no food, just a little bit of boiled rice.

Abu Mohammad (Ph) from Homs says his four-month old son is buried here. He needed medicine and oxygen, but there's no hospitals, he says. This old woman says, "I have no one. I'm hungry and thirsty, help me."

With no access, aid agencies says, it's hard to assess the true scale of human suffering at the berm. Jordan which is housing more than a million Syrians says the nation's security is its top priority. It says the area is becoming an ISIS enclave.

In a statement to CNN the government says, "We are in continuous discussion with aid agencies regarding this issue and we continue to emphasize Jordan's legitimate security concerns and the best way aid can be delivered. This is an international problem, not Jordan's problem."

For now they use what they can to prepare for a harsh winter ahead, as they wait for the world to decide on their fate.

Natalie, in the miserable living conditions in the berm haven't stopped the flow of Syrian so desperate there who were living their homes. According to a satellite imagery that was recently obtained by Amnesty International they say, that there has been a steady increase in the population at the berm, aid agencies are describing the situation as an emergency and they say that the world needs to act now.

ALLEN: Yes. That's the line that we've heard a lot in this horrible, horrible ongoing crisis. And we certainly hope someone will, because I cannot imagine being called a ghost refugee. How horrible. Jomana Karadsheh, thanks so much.

HOWELL: You're watching CNN Newsroom. We'll be right back after the break.

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JAVAHERI: A trio of active tropical weather across the Atlantic Ocean starting off close to the United States was left of tropical storm Julia. Of course we have tropical storm Carl across the eastern and central portion of the Atlantic Ocean.

In fact, towards the east a high probability sitting thereof the coast of Africa as we're watching for the next several days. But notice just a lot of convection, a lot of thunderstorms, generally, some of this is associated with Julia remaining offshore and pumping up some moisture towards this reason. So, scattered showers, as you expect around the eastern seaboard of the United States.

But again, not a wash out as a lot of the tropical weather this season so far has seemed really to be limited, minimal and just a non-event. So, that's certainly been good news.

But notice, we get a transitional pattern. We get some cool coming -- cool air coming in here, this is of course right there for the beginning of the first day of autumn across the northern hemisphere, which would be on Thursday.

The temperature start off rather toasty around Montreal, Chicago upper and mid-20s, you're going to miss these temperatures, trust me, in a couple of weeks across this region as the pattern changes rather quickly at least that's what it indicates.

But down towards the tropics, we'll keep it into the lower 30s. San Juan scattered thunderstorms which you expect this time of year. Cartagena also seen temperatures around 30 degrees and scattered storms. And around Bogota like in 19, Quito, same score, Lima coming in also at 19 but dry conditions.

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HOWELL: Welcome back to CNN Newsroom. A fantasy drama sets a new record and true crime miniseries dominated the 68th Emmy Awards. "Game of Thrones" won for outstanding but a total of 38 wins since it began airing, the show broke a 12-year record by most Emmy wins by a series.

ALLEN: I'm such a loser. I've never watched it. Oh, my goodness.

HOWELL: Oh, no?

ALLEN: I've got to get with the program. No. And "The People versus O.J. Simpson" received a nine Emmy's including wins for best limited series writing and for three of its stars.

Early in the evening host Jimmy Kimmel joked about a rules change with the Emmy's.

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JIMMY KIMMEL, JIMMY KIMMEL LIVE SHOW HOST: We're going to do things a little bit differently this year. We have a new rule, this year for the first time ever, you must be present to win. If we call your name and you're not here to accept, the Emmy goes to the next name on the list, it's called the Maggie Smith rule.

In this if you don't Maggie Smith, she's been nominated for the Emmy's nine times. She's won the Emmy three times. How many times do you think she's shown up here to get the Emmy, that's right, no times. This year she had a Sunday ceramics class that she couldn't get out of.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: And the Emmy goes to Maggie Smith's "Downtown Abbey."

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Maggie couldn't be here tonight, so accepting the award on...

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KIMMEL: No. No. No. We're not mailing this to her. Maggie, if you want this, it will be in the lost and found.

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HOWELL: To break it all down for us, let's brick in Kim Serafin, she is the senior editor of In Touch Weekly and now joins us from Los Angeles. Kim, it's always a pleasure to have you with us. So, let's talk about who the big winners were and who was expected to take home the most trophies.

KIM SERAFIN, IN TOUCH WEEKLY SENIOR EDITOR: Yes. You know, with the Emmy's what happens every year there seem to be a lot of repeat winners deservedly, because a lot of the shows are fantastic but they seem to repeat and win again and again. I think everyone expected, for example, "Game of Thrones" to win for best drama series. And it did. And it definitely deserve to win.

I mean, this is one of the buzz worthy shows, most talked about shows of the very passionate fan base. So, this is a very good win for best drama. And then "Veep" won for the second consecutive year for best comedy. This is another show they had a really, really good year, a really good season. I think in a political year, I think people definitely expected "Veep" would win again.

You know, at least it's not "Modern Family" winning for I think five years in a show, but "Veep" could potentially become that show that continuous to win over and over again. So, you see a lot of these repeat winners.

Julia Louis- Dreyfus won for "Veep" again the second consecutive year, but she also had a fantastic year. And Jeffrey Tambor won for "Transparent." Again, so much so people expected him to win, that Jimmy -- Jimmy Kimmel, the host gave him his award. Just as the show was even starting, before they even started passing out awards he walked into the audience gave him his award because everyone assumed he would probably win and he did.

HOWELL: You would think with all of the political headlines that we're covering here, that people would get enough with politics. But, yes, "Veep" it is doing pretty well, people like those political shows, especially with that's -- you know, that's what people are talking about.

Look, there were also some surprises and some new faces, what do you know about those?

SERAFIN: Yes, it was nice to see a few newcomers win, which is always great at the Emmys. Rami Malek, who won for "Mr. Robot" and this was a show I think people expected Rami to win because he has just gotten so much attention. Everyone really assumed he would win.

And, you know, you don't have John Ham, who people, you know, were always talking about, so a lot of perennial winners weren't around anymore. So, Rami Malek won very deserve it from "Mr. Robot."

And then Tatiana Maslany won for "Orphan Black" and this is definitely a huge win for her because for so many years she was never even nominated. People would always say, where is Tatiana Maslany? You don't watch the show, she plays several different characters.

She plays clones so she's got a really, really tough job. So, I think this really made sense that she finally won it. It was nice to see these two new faces. Although her name was kind of mispronounced when she won. But hopefully people now will become more familiar with her.

[03:55:05] HOWELL: And then what about the nomination of Tracee Ellis Ross.

SERAFIN: Yes. That would have been great to see Tracee Ellis Ross win. A "Black-ish" is such a popular show. Anthony Anderson also nominated. The show "Black-ish" was nominated. It would have been really great to see it nominated.

And even Jimmy Kimmel made a comment about the diversity in the Emmy nominations. And I think you do see that as opposed to what people talked about the Oscar nominations, the Oscar so white issue. You do not have that with the Emmy's, you really do see a lot of diversity with the Emmy's.

A lot of the TV shows really reflect real life, and you know, so hopefully, Tracee Ellis Ross will have a chance to win. I think "Black-ish" it's on the air for a really long time. I think people would have liked to see it win this time around. But I think it's time will still be coming for sure.

HOWELL: Kim Serafin, the senior editor of In Touch Weekly, we always appreciate having you with us. Thank you so much.

SERAFIN: Great. Thanks so much. ALLEN: All right. After four hours of cable news I'm going to watch some TV now. Thank you for watching CNN Newsroom. I'm Natalie Allen.

HOWELL: And I'm George Howell. Early Start is next for our viewers here in the United States. And for other viewers around the world stay with us. Max Foster continues Newsroom live from London.

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