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Trump: Black Communities in Worst Shape Than Ever; Clinton Speech in Orlando; New Details on NY/NJ Bomber, New Video. Aired 2:30- 3p ET

Aired September 21, 2016 - 14:30   ET

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[14:30:00] BRUNELL DONALD-KYEI, NATIONAL DIVERSITY COALITION FOR TRUMP: He did not smear the entire black community. He's talking about that pocket of community, 25 percent, living in degradation, dodging bullets --

(CROSSTALK)

MICHAEL NUTTER, CNN POLITICAL COMMENTATOR: He said the black community. Watch the tape.

DONALD-KYEI: Well, like I said, I don't believe in generalization.

NUTTER: Watch the tape.

DONALD-KYEI: I believe the people that Donald Trump is talking to they understand loud and clear that he is speaking to them directly, that 25 fact has been left behind, that 25 percent that expected jobs and a better education and investment in their communities.

NUTTER: Then that's what he should have said.

DONALD-KYEI: Those people hear Donald Trump loud and clear.

BALDWIN: That's the point. Words matter. He said, "Our African- American communities are absolutely in the worst shape that they have ever been in before, ever, ever, ever."

So to your point, Brunell, he should have been more specific?

DONALD-KYEI: Like I said, generalizations I don't like them but I will tell you black people were dealing with police officers with issues in the '60s, we're dealing with them now. You're dealing with problems of poor schools in the '60s. You're dealing with it now. We're talking about no investment into the black community even in the '60s. We're dealing with it now. So there are still problems that black people are facing, and not all black people, of course. But there is that 25 percent that's eating poverty every single day, drinking hopelessness every single day, and they just want someone to keep their promise. When you say you're going to send jobs, send them. When you say you're going to give us better education, make sure it happens. When you say you're going to invest in black communities, expand businesses, please do it. I believe Mr. Trump is talking about and expressing.

(CROSSTALK)

BALDWIN: Mayor Nutter, you get the last word.

NUTTER: Well, he's talking to his own crowd, is what he's doing. And the person who can deliver in this election is going forward to govern. Of course, is Secretary Clinton, who is very precise --

DONALD-KYEI: A person who has no record of doing anything for poor or working class people.

NUTTER: She understands what's going on in communities all across the United States.

(CROSSTALK)

BALDWIN: OK, I don't like this talking over one another. I want to listen to each of you.

NUTTER: She's going to keep talking.

DONALD-KYEI: Go ahead.

NUTTER: I appreciate that.

We have a serious election here, serious issues, challenges in all kinds of communities. This is what an election really is all about, not pandering, not saying one thing to one audience, not saying another thing to another audience, especially when you're talking about community policing and having communities working together, respecting the police and the police respecting people in communities. That's what this is about.

BALDWIN: Michael Nutter, thank you.

NUTTER: Thank you.

BALDWIN: Brunell Donald Kyei, thank you so much.

(CROSSTALK)

BALDWIN: Thank you very much.

Coming up, Hillary Clinton will be speaking in Orlando, Florida, outlining her economic policy. Might she mention something off the top with regard to the shootings in Charlotte and Tulsa? Perhaps. We're watching. We'll take it live.

Also ahead, more breaking news. The FBI now releasing this photo of these two men, the ones who found one of the devices, one of the bombs in New York City. And this new video shows scorch marks in that bombing suspect's backyard. What was going on? We'll be right back.

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[14:37:46] BALDWIN: Now to the breaking news in the New York/New Jersey bombing investigation. For the very first time -- oh, check that.

Let's go to Hillary Clinton speaking now in Orlando.

HILLARY CLINTON, (D), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: Wow. Thank you all so much. I am so happy to be back. And I want to thank all of you for being here today at the Frontline Outreach Youth and Family Center which does so much good work in the community.

(CHEERING)

CLINTON: I want to acknowledge your terrific mayor, Mayor Buddy Dyer, who was here earlier.

(APPLAUSE)

CLINTON: I want to thank Pastor Wint (ph), Tiffany Hammi (ph), the chair of the Orange County Disability Caucus, and everyone, especially Val Demmings (ph).

Where's Val?

(CHEERING)

CLINTON: Val, I know, got this crowd really whipped up, and I want you to stay whipped up for Val. She is going to be a great member of Congress for everything that we care about and are fighting for.

(CHEERING)

CLINTON: I want to thank Anastasia for that introduction. Didn't she do an amazing job?

(CHEERING)

CLINTON: I first met Anastasia when she was nine years old. She raised her hand at a town hall and she said, "My twin sister can't speak." Because of that, they put her in a separate class apart from the rest of the kids but she can communicate with a computer. And she's very smart and would do just as well as anyone but the principal and teachers would just give her a chance. I was just blown away by this nine-year-old girl, talking about how she loved her sister. So Anastasia and I have stayed in touch over the years. When she grew up, she became an intern in the Senate. I was so proud of her speech at the Democratic National Convention in Philadelphia, too.

(CHEERING)

[14:40:13] CLINTON: And I'm very excited that she's here with us today.

I also want to thank Orlando. It's great to be back in his wonderful city with all of you.

(CHEERING)

CLINTON: You've been through a lot this year. (CHEERING)

CLINTON: And what has been so notable is you've responded with grace. You've shown the world what Orlando is made of, strength, love, and kindness. This is something we could all use more of right now.

(CHEERING)

CLINTON: I'm here today to talk about how to make our economy work for everyone, but first, I need to say something about two very upsetting incidents that took place over the past few days.

First, an unarmed man named Terence Crutcher was shot and killed by a police officer in Tulsa. Then, a man named Keith Lamont Scott was shot and killed by a police officer in Charlotte. I'm sending condolences and prayers to their families. I know a lot of you are as well.

There is still much we don't know about what happened in both incidents but we do know we have more two more names to add of a list of African-Americans killed by police officers in these encounters. It's unbearable and it needs to become intolerable.

We also saw the targeting of police officers in Philadelphia last week. And last night in Charlotte, 12 officers were injured in demonstrations following Keith Lamont Scott's death. Everyday, police officers across our country are serving with extraordinary courage, honor, and skill. We saw that again this weekend in New York and New Jersey and Minnesota. Our police handled those terrorist attacks exactly right and they likely saved a lot of lives.

I've spoken to many police chiefs and other law enforcement leaders who are as deeply concerned as I am and deeply committed as I am to reform. Why? Because they know it is essential for the safety of our communities and our officers. We are safer when communities respect the police and police respect communities.

(CHEERING)

CLINTON: I've also been privileged to spend a lot of time with mothers who've lost children and young people, who feel that as far as their country is concerned their lives seem disposable. We've got to do better. And I know we can. And if I'm elected president, we will. And we will do it exactly together --

(CHEERING)

CLINTON: -- which is the only way it can be done.

(APPLAUSE)

CLINTON: Look, I know I don't have all the answers. I don't know anyone who does, but this is certain, too many people have lost their lives who shouldn't have.

Sybrina Fulton has become a friend of mine. Her son, Trayvon Martin, was killed not far from where we are today. Sybrina says this is about saving our children. And she's absolutely right. We need to come together, work together, white, black, Latino, Asian, all of us to turn the tide, stop the violence, build the trust.

(APPLAUSE)

CLINTON: We need to give all of our kids, no matter who they are, the chance to grow up safe and healthy in their communities and in our country.

Now, there are so many issues we need to take on together and that's why we're here today, because in just 48 days -- can you believe it, 48 days --

(CHEERING)

CLINTON: -- Americans will go to the polls and choose our next president.

(CHEERING)

[14:45:00] BALDWIN: We just wanted to dip into the portion where she did address these recent shootings in Tulsa and Charlotte. She also talked about the officers targeted last week in Philadelphia. We remember, on the stage of the Democratic National Convention, the mothers. She included Trayvon Martin's mother in that. They believe Hillary Clinton is the person who can help change what's been happening in our country.

Dana Bash is sitting next to me, our chief political correspondent.

We were having a conversation, the politics of all of this, and Trump today was in a black church in Cleveland. And sometimes you have to consider an audience, but he, as this law-and-order candidate, was talking about the Tulsa officer and saying, "I don't know if she was afraid, maybe she choked." All of this four days before the first big debate.

DANA BASH, CNN CHIEF POLITICAL CORRESPONDENT: No question. And I just -- to button up what Hillary Clinton was saying, I was struck at how much more calm and kind of composed she was.

BALDWIN: Her tone is different.

BASH: The tone she took was the same kind of tone we saw her take after what happened in New York, and that is kind of -- that's been her calling card, I'm a leader, I can take a breath and lead us through a crisis or a situation, which was different from the phone -- she called into Steve Harvey's radio show and she was very passionate, very emotional. And there's no judgment on either, but I was struck at how different she was.

Donald Trump went after her and said she was pre-judging it, which is kind of ironic, because he's certainly one to be known to do that as well. But her tone was interesting. And as I said, I felt like she was

trying to go back to basics. Her whole M.O., her whole argument for why she should be president is because she can take a breath as opposed to him, who she accuses of being too temperamental.

BALDWIN: Do we know, as we are four days away from what could be the biggest nights of television, what she's doing the next couple of days?

BASH: She's preparing. She's hunkering down and preparing. This is an unusual moment that she's out on the campaign trail. She's doing it a couple of days. But for the most part she's doing debate camp, boot camp like the old-fashioned way. And when I say the old- fashioned way, it's the way we have seen it in recent history over the many election cycles that television debates have been so incredibly important to the outcome of the presidential election. She's been looking at the clips, actually, not unlike sports.

BALDWIN: From the primary debates.

BASH: From the primary debates of how he's been doing, reading, doing mock debates with her aides and really trying to focus in on that. And, you know, she's doing it like I think she does anything else, as opposed to Donald Trump who is doing it like he does anything else, which is more of a "go with your gut" kind of thing.

(CROSSTALK)

BALDWIN: He says he doesn't want to appear scripted so why run through the rigmarole.

BASH: Well, but you can't be scripted because it's a debate --

(CROSSTALK)

BASH: Right. You never know what's going to happen. You never know what's really going to happen. But he did kind of give a couple of sneak peeks into the fact that he is doing more studying than he apparently has in the past. He's looking at trade policy and others. I thought it was interesting he was talking about his own policy, making sure he knows the details of his own policies --

BALDWIN: Familiarizing.

BASH: -- as opposed to others. But you know during the primaries the specifics for Donald Trump didn't matter to voters. And the proof in that is the fact he's the nominee and he didn't offer a lot of specifics matter, other things mattered. It will be interesting whether that is still the case because you can bet that Hillary Clinton is going to go after him, pressing him for specifics, never mind the moderator that she's going to do a lot of that. In fact, they've signaled from the Clinton campaign that she own fact checking.

BALDWIN: So different when you saw Donald Trump flanked with, what, 11 people and now just the two of them at Hofstra on Monday.

Dana, thank you.

BASH: Thank you.

BALDWIN: Good to see you.

BASH: You, too.

Up next, we have more on the breaking news from the FBI now looking for these two men, the ones who found one of those bomb devices in one of the New York City locations over the weekend. And this new video indicating some sort of scorch mark in that bombing suspect's New Jersey backyard.

We'll be right back.

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[14:53:46] BALDWIN: Let's get you back to this breaking news out of this New York/New Jersey bombing investigation. For the very first time, we are getting a look at the suspected bomber's journal where he praises the likes of Osama bin Laden, he writes about pipe bombs.

Congressman Michael McCaul, who is also the chair of the House Homeland Security Committee, held up this photo of the bloody notebook during a meeting a short time ago.

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REP. MICHAEL MCCAUL, (R-TX), CHAIRMAN, HOUSE HOMELAND SECURITY COMMITTEE: This is a copy of Mr. Rahami's journal that was found on his person when he was taken into custody. I know you're familiar with it. He talks about the sound of bombs will be heard in the streets.

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BALDWIN: Also we're learning the FBI announced it wants your help in finding these two men. This is a freeze-frame, a surveillance video. The unknown pair is seen as possible witnesses to Saturday night's bombings. Police want to be clear they are not suspects. They want to talk to them, though. Cameras captured these men removing what could be one of the bombs left behind on one of the streets in Chelsea by that suspect, Ahmad Rahami. They removed the explosive device, left it on the sidewalk, then took the luggage it was left in and walked away.

Let's go to CNN justice correspondent, Pamela Brown.

What exactly are law enforcement looking for from these two.

[14:55:06] PAMELA BROWN, CNN JUSTICE CORRESPONDENT: They want to talk to them to find out why they were there, why they opened up this luggage, removed the item inside and walked away with the bag. Also they need that piece of luggage from them because that's a crucial piece of evidence in this investigation. As you pointed out, Brooke, these two men seen in this notice are not

being looked at as suspects but as key witnesses because they picked up the piece of luggage, took the item out in the same hour the bomb exploded just a few blocks away on 23rd Street and officials said they looked incredulous when they pulled the white garbage bag out. And there's no indication they were fully aware of what was going on. Officials said they were lucky the bomb didn't go off when they pulled it out of that bag.

But they are key to the investigation so what the FBI is doing is asking for the public's help in identifying these two men right here.

BALDWIN: Tell me more about what you know, Pamela, on this bloodied notebook and the video we have.

BROWN: So a lot of new elements and information coming out today, in burglar this video we were able to shoot showing the suspect's backyard. And if we can pull that video up right now you can see some scorch marks in the backyard. Here the video is.

We don't know exactly what caused the scorch mark but we know the suspect was allegedly practicing with explosives in his backyard, in fact there was a cell phone video from a relative of his two days before the bombs went off showing him igniting the explosive and there was laughing in the background and the suspect reentered the frame.

Also that notebook you mentioned, a key piece of evidence. He allegedly talks about terrorist leaders, including Adnani, the ISIS spokesperson, who was killed in a strike, Adnani, I should say. That is the first time we're hearing he was influenced by ISIS, as well as other terrorist groups -- Brooke.

BALDWIN: That was just a couple weeks ago.

Pamela Brown, thank you for that.

Coming up next here, back to what's happened here today. You have infamous boxing promoter, Don King, dropping the "N" word inside of this church in Cleveland just before he's introducing Donald Trump to this congregation. This is after Trump says places like Afghanistan are safer than America's inner cities. More on that coming up.

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BALDWIN: Forget the days of the company conference call. Today, corporations are using virtual hubs to make sure everyone is on the same page.

Vanessa Yurkevich looks at how Boeing uses technology to initiate real-time collaboration and design.

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VANESSA YURKEVICH, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): It takes five to 10 years to taken an airplane from the drawing toward the runway, and every year on an assembly line is another year manufacturers aren't getting a return on their investment. So companies like Boeing are speeding up that process right from the beginning by cutting the design time.

HAMSEL ADAM (ph), BOEING EMPLOYEE: The complexities are only going higher and higher because the demands of the customers are also getting higher and higher. They want to be able to do a lot more with their airplanes for a lot less.

Let's start with Spain.

Go ahead, Ramon, introduce yourself, please.

YURKEVICH: Boeing has 11 different design centers, hundreds of different offices around the world and almost 20,000 pliers who make everything from engines to seat to software. To get everyone on the same page, Boeing created the Casa Lab in Huntsville, Alabama.

ADAM: We deal with a lot of data. We've been able to put in place the computing infrastructure to deal with that.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I'll take it from here, Andrew.

ADAM: You will see the handoff of the design between the different sites, which is the power of collaboration.

YURKEVICH: It can cost $400 million just to develop one plane. Researchers are hoping better collaboration can reduce that cost.

ADAM: Designs used to be done in what I would refer to as silos. You don't want that system of marking up a design and saying, here's my input, and passing it on to the next person. If there is an error in --