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Fatal Police Shooting Near San Diego; FBI Working to Stop Hackers from Getting Voter Info; Women Have Yet to Achieve Parity on the Job. Aired 10:30-11a ET.

Aired September 28, 2016 - 10:30   ET

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MICHELLE KOSINSKI, CNN WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT: Recent surveys have shown that U.S. troops support Donald Trump over Hillary Clinton by a factor of two to one. And about a fifth of U.S. troops that were surveyed felt like they didn't like either choice. So there was a feeling out there, in addition to the lowering morale over the years, a feeling that U.S. candidates at least from traditional parties or from the major parties don't necessarily understand issues facing the military. So we're likely to hear some interesting and difficult questions posed directly to the commander in chief out here, Carol.

CAROL COSTELLO, CNN HOST: All right, Michelle Kosinski reporting live for us, thank you. Tonight's town hall starts 9 p.m. Eastern right here on CNN. And good morning, I'm Carol Costello. Thank you so much for joining me. Another deadly police confrontation sparks a protest, this time in the San Diego suburbs.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: No justice, no peace.

COSTELLO (voice over): The police chief of El Cajon, California, says officers responded to a call of a 30-year-old African American man acting erratically on Tuesday. The chief claims one of the officers fired after the man drew an object and stood in a shooting stance. A woman, who says she's the man's sister, posted this emotional video on Facebook.

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SHOOTING VICTIM'S SISTER: I just called for help and you came and killed him. Oh my God, you killed my brother. I called you guys to come and help, not to kill my brother.

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COSTELLO: Paul Vercammen is following this story for us this morning. Good morning.

PAUL VERCAMMEN, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Good morning, Carol. Well I'm here in El Cajon. This is about 15 miles northeast of San Diego. Behind me there's a small shrine to the man who lost his life in this police confrontation. And when we arrived in the pre-dawn blackness, I should note that we saw about eight mourners. They were holding hands in a circle. They were very reverent. They were grieving. Before that, earlier in the evening, there were some protests, angry protests. People just absolutely furious wondering why this man had to lose his life. Now police came out and they said what you had pointed out earlier, Carol. There was a car for a man acting erratic. They said that he was in traffic and that he was a danger to himself and others. After police responded, they tried to taze him at one point. That didn't work. And then let's show a screen save of the video that's going to be at the centerpiece of this case. Someone shot this video and what it shows is two officers who have their guns pointed at the suspect. And according to police, they say that he pulled an object from his pocket, placed both hands on this object, and extended them rapidly toward the officers, taking up what appeared to be a shooting stance. Somewhere after that, he was shot and killed and the police chief here in El Cajon, Carol, was saying that they did not find any type of firearm. They are not revealing at this time what that object was.

COSTELLO: All right, Paul Vercammen, reporting live from El Cajon, California. Up next in THE NEWSROOM: Eighteen states asking for federal help to protect voter information from hackers. I'll ask the Ohio Secretary of State what he's worried about next.

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[10:35:00] COSTELLO: The FBI wants to examine cellphones belonging to a number of democratic party staffers. It's looking into whether the phones were hacked. If so, this could be an expansion of cyber attacks earlier this year on the democratic national committee. Officials have said they believe Russian hackers are behind those attacks in a possible attempt to influence the presidential election. Top democratics have blamed Russian president Vladimir Putin and his intelligence agencies. Another concern: Are those same hackers trying to steal voter information and disrupt the presidential election? We know voter databases were hacked into in Arizona and in Illinois and voter information was stolen. The question is why? Just moments ago the FBI director James Corney told the house judiciary committee the bureau is trying to figure out what exactly is going on.

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JAMES CORNEY, DIRECTOR OF THE FBI: And obviously as you know, we are doing an awful lot of work through our counter intelligence investigators to understand just what mischief is Russia up to in connection with our election. That is work that goes on all day every day about which I'm limited in terms of answering questions. But I wanted you to know, that's a part of our work we don't talk about an awful lot, but it's at the core of the FBI.

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COSTELLO: Eighteen states have reached out to the feds for help in protecting voter records come election day, warding off cyber attacks on their electronic voting systems. So let's talk about that. I want to bring in Jon Husted. He's the Ohio Secretary of State. Welcome, John.

JON HUSTED, OHIO SECRETARY OF STATE: Thank you. Glad to be with you.

COSTELLO: Thanks for being with me, sir. So how worried are you?

HUSTED: Well, I have a high sense of caution about it, because we've been working on this issue for six years, frankly, modernizing our election system, looking at our vulnerabilities, upgrading it to make sure that it's secure. We actually have even invited the Ohio National Guard Cyber Security unit to try to hack our system to determine where the vulnerabilities are, so that we can remedy them prior to election day.

COSTELLO: Have you reached out to the FBI for help in protecting voter information in Ohio?

HUSTED: We have been in continued contact with the FBI. We share information. We have let them know what we're doing in preparation for this. We've taken their advice. We've consulted cyber security experts to make sure that we're ready.

[10:40:08] COSTELLO: So we know that there've been breaches in Illinois and in Arizona and some voter data was stolen by these hackers. What do you think they want wit this information?

HUSTED: Well, they can't really disrupt the actual election, but they can be disruptive in events leading - surrounding the election. And one of the things I want to make sure people are aware of is that this isn't the actual voting machines. The voting machines are not connected to the internet. The tallying process is not connected to the internet. It can't - a hack attempt cannot affect the outcome of a vote, but it can affect voter registration databases. It can become disruptive. I think that those are the things - those are the - that's really the scope of what they can hack.

COSTELLO: Well, let me stop you right there, because let's say hackers mess up the registration process. That means a voter could possibly go to the wrong precinct to vote and not vote at all, right?

HUSTED: Well, fortunately in Ohio, we have a duplicate system. You have to change information both at the state level and at the local level for it to be effective and that has to be authorized. And so it would be very difficult for someone to cause that disruption, but we have all of this information backed up to make sure that we can minimize any inconvenience to a voter if something like that were to happen.

COSTELLO: Is it possible these hackers just want information, like, you know - in Arizona and Illinois, they stole things like the last four digits of the person's social security number and other kind of personal information. And is suppose they could sell that information.

HUSTED: I think they want attention. I think they just want attention. I think they want to be disruptive. Terrorism takes many forms. Some of the them are human and safety issues that could affect somebody. But some of them are also to be annoying and to draw attention to themselves and to be disruptive in our election system. I think that it spreads the gamut and that's what's in play here.

COSTELLO: OK. So you said the word terrorism and that perked me up. So do you believe this is a form of terrorism, perhaps?

HUSTED: Look, what I mean is that people who want to cause difficulty for America, whether that's foreign governments or domestic threats, they have many ways in which they want to try to cause problems. Interrupting our election system would be a very high-profile way for them to do that. But we are making sure that we are - we are taking all the precautions necessary so that there is no inconvenience. The great thing is the American democracy is the greatest system of democracy in the world and they would like to try to undermine that and we're just not going to let them.

COSTELLO: I like to hear you say that. Ohio Secretary of State Jon Husted, thanks so much for being with me this morning.

HUSTED: Thanks.

COSTELLO: You're welcome. Checking some other top stories this morning at 42 minutes past. We're getting new information about what happened when Malaysia Airlines flight 17 blew up over Eastern Ukraine more than two years ago. This morning and international investigation team said this missile that tore through the Bowing 777 was brought into Ukraine from Russia. In the meantime, a group of prosecutors is gathering evidence for a possible criminal trial. All 298 passengers on board were killed when that flight was shot down back in July 2014. Fans will get the chance today to pay their respects to the late Marlin's pitcher, Jose Fernandez. A procession will leave the ballpark at 2:16 Eastern time this afternoon to honor Fernandez, who wore the number 16. They will travel to a Miami church for a blessing. A public visitation is set for later tonight. Fernandez was killed over the weekend in a boating accident.

Wells Fargo is announcing it will end controversial sales goals by Saturday, earlier than originally planned. The previous deadline was January 1st. Former bank employees have said those goals fueled the bank's fake account scandal. This is CEO John Stumpf, says he will forfeit most of his salary for this year. That includes his bonus and $41 million in stock awards. He is set jto testify before house lawmakers tomorrow.

Two men are being held as heroes after police say their quick thinking may have saved countless lives. The men notified authorities after they discovered a pipe bomb in a trash can in Elizabeth, New Jersey. Authorities believe it was planted by suspected bomber Ahmad Khan Rahami. The bomb went off safely. No one was hurt. The men were presented with keys to the city on Tuesday. One of the men is homeless. He has received donations from a local charity and he's also been provided some place to live. Still to come in THE NEWSROOM: You've heard it for years; close the gender pay gaps. So are more women speaking up for what they want? And if they are, are they getting - are they getting what they want? We'll have the answer from a major new study next.

[10:40:00] (COMMERCIAL BREAK) COSTELLO: All right, any minute now Donald Trump is expected to speak before the Police American Alliance. You see the audience is eagerly awaiting his presence behind that podium. Of course, when Donald Trump takes to the podium we'll listen in and share his remarks with you.

You know what? Women just may decide who the next president of the United State will be; both candidates fighting hard for their vote; both candidates insisting they have the answers when it comes to childcare and equal pay. But a major new study shows women still have a long way to go to achieve parity on the job. So let's talk about that now. With me now is Rachel Thomas, president of Lean In, Sheryl Sandberg's nonprofit. Welcome Sheryl - Welcome Rachel.

RACHEL THOMAS, PRESIDENT OF LEAN IN: Thank you.

COSTELLO: I'm just thinking about this study and there are so many positives but there are negatives too and it shows that women have progressed farther but not quite far enough.

10:49:55] THOMAS: Yes, not nearly far enough. One of the big findings is that women hit the glass ceiling earlier than you'd think. At that first critical promotion to manager, women are far less likely to get promoted, so far less likely to get on the path to leadership. The other thing we found is that women are asking for more. They're lobbying for promotions, they're negotiating for pay raises. The problem is they face pushback when they do. Women who ask for more are more likely than men to be called bossy, aggressive, and even intimidating.

COSTELLO: Still? Because, you know, in my mind it's a good thing that women are becoming aggressive and asking for what they want. I thought that would be like 80 percent of the problem solved. But it's not.

THOMAS: Yes, the good news is that when - when women ask for more, they get more. So they should keep asking and that's an important part of the finding here. The problem is that there's subtle and sinister bias in the workplace and it really impacts women. We know they're less likely to get access to senior leaders. They get less feedback and feedback is so important in improving your performance. They get less credit for their ideas. And all of these things add up and create and workplace that is just less fair to women.

COSTELLO: That also intrigued me in the study (--)

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COSTELLO: OK. So, that's part of the answer, but it's just so frustrating for women. I mean, here women, they're speaking louder, they're asking for what they want. They're still not quite getting it. There's still not quite parity on the job when it comes to pay and it comes to management positions and you say, you know, we just need to keep talking about it. But at some point, don't women just say, "Enough talking about it." Like, what do we do now? THOMAS: There's a lot of things that companies can do. It does start with talking about it. They need to make a Better Business case for why diversity matters. They need their employees to understand the workplace is an equal and everyone benefits when we get to equality. The other thing is they need to set targets. You can't get there if you don't know where you're going. So there are lots of actionable things companies can do and we talk about that a lot in the report.

COSTELLO: OK, Rachel Thomas, thanks for stopping by.

THOMAS: Thank you.

COSTELLO: I appreciate it. It's a fascinating study. Thank you so much. Caught up in THE NEWSROOM: It is the wedding proposal everyone is talking about; wait until you see what happened when a Yankees fan went to put a ring on it.

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[10:55:00] COSTELLO: Big NFL news this morning. Running defensive player of the year J.J. Watt may be done for the season. Andy Scholes has that and more in this morning's BLEACHER REPORT. Hi Andy.

ANDY SCHOLES, CNN SPORTS ANCHOR: Hi, Carol. You know, you ever wake up to a sports alert on your phone and immediately just start weeping? Well, that was me this morning because I'm a Houston Texan's fan. According to multiple reports J.J. Watt reinjured his back last Thursday against the Patriots and will now be placed on injured reserve. He's going to miss a minimum of eight weeks, likely going to be out the rest of the season. And Watt came back early after surgery in late July to repair a herniated disc in his back. He's never missed a game in his NFL career, but that streak will come to an end on Sunday.

The U.S. Ryder Cup team taking their team picture yesterday. Check this out: Tiger Woods, he's a vice captain this year, not playing, just there to help, and they kick him out of the team picture not once, but twice. That picture there, apparently, only for the players. A little awkward. Tiger, though, had some fun with it, laughed it off. He's going to be playing competitively for the first time this year next month.

Finally, during last night's Yankees/Red Sox, a fan, he got up to propose to his girlfriend in the middle of the fifth inning. One problem: On the way down, he dropped the ring. You can see the whole section there standing out looking for the ring. This was all going down on the big screen at least for the first part. Eventually, they find the ring in the cuff of his girlfriend's pants. Everyone goes nuts, Carol, and then he proposes and of course she says yes. Happy ending. But I can only imagine the panic that was going through his mind when he looked down at the box and there was no ring in it.

COSTELLO: He was probably so nervous. And he dropped the ring and wouldn't it have been awful if she would have said no.

SCHOLES: Oh, he probably would have jumped off the upper deck, right? COSTELLO: Probably so. A happy ending, though, we like that.

SCHOLES: Absolutely.

COSTELLO: Andy Scholes, thanks so much. So let's take some other top stories, shall we? The founder of SpaceX says, yes, he says, a colony of humans could be living on Mars within 50 to 150 years. Elon Musk is laying out details and a timeline for his plan to send people to the Red Planet. He says a launch using current technology would cost around $10 billion. His goal is to reduce that amount to $200,000.00 a ticket. That'll do it for me today. Just one story to send you off. Thank you so much for joining me today. I'm Carol Costello. "AT THIS HOUR" with Berman and Bolduan starts now.