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Trump To NYT: I Can Be Nastier Than Clinton; Trump Pours Champagne On Limo In Adult Movie; VP Candidates To Battle It Out On Debate Stage Tuesday; Hurricane Matthew Now A Category 4 Storm; Clinton Courting Millennials; Mysterious Deaths in the Seychelles; "SNL" Casts Alec Baldwin as New Trump. Aired 6-7a ET

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[06:00:00] CHRISTI PAUL, CNN ANCHOR: Welcome to NEW DAY SATURDAY. I'm Christi Paul.

VICTOR BLACKWELL, CNN ANCHOR: I'm Victor Blackwell. Your NEW DAY starts right now.


DONALD TRUMP (R), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: I do cherish women -- I love women.

HILLARY CLINTON (D), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: Who gets up at 3:00 a.m. in the morning to engage in a Twitter attack against a former Miss Universe?

TRUMP: Working that microphone was a hell of a lot more difficult than working Crooked Hillary Clinton.

CLINTON: I'll say it again, a man who can be provoked by a tweet should not be anywhere near the nuclear codes.


PAUL: New this morning and so grateful for your company, Donald Trump ramping up the attacks against Hillary Clinton telling "The New York Times," quote, "She's nasty, but I can be nastier."

BLACKWELL: Yes, and now threatening to bring up her husband's previous sex scandals while side stepping questions about his own infidelities. All of this as "Buzzfeed" released this "Playboy" video from 2000, which includes an appearance by Donald Trump pouring champagne onto a Playboy limo.

Now the bad news for the Trump campaign is his poll numbers dip after that first presidential debate. Take a look at the latest post-debate Fox News poll, he is trailing here Clinton by three points. Johnson at 8 percent, Stein at 4 percent. Here just a head to head, it is 5- point trail for Trump.

Just yesterday, Trump went on a Twitter rampage attacking former Miss Universe Alicia Machado, a Hillary Clinton supporter now, and Trump supporter and adviser, Newt Gingrich, had this advice for the Republican nominee.


NEWT GINGRICH, FORMER HOUSE SPEAKER: I think what Trump has got to understand is he's either got to say I've got to be me or a new song, I've got to be president. They're not the same song. He's got to become much more disciplined.

For a while there I thought he had really turned a corner. This last week I think has been frankly a lost week, a week which has hurt him which has shaken his own supporters and you can't tweet at 3:00 in the morning.


PAUL: All right, CNN political commentator, Errol Louis, with us now. Errol, you know, I come to you and I think we're going to have something substantial, some policy to talk about, and then we wake up to all of this.

So, let's just get right down to it. Trump telling "The New York Times" this morning, he can be nastier than Hillary Clinton. How incendiary do you think it could get because it's been pretty nasty thus far?

ERROL LOUIS, CNN POLITICAL COMMENTATOR: Well, I don't think it's going to get so bad. I say that not just as a citizen who doesn't want to see this kind of garbage dominate the discussion in the last few weeks of a presidential campaign, but because Hillary Clinton is going to encourage this.

The Hillary Clinton team could not have hoped for better than this. Because at this point, Christi, frankly, the calendar is not Donald Trump's friend. You've got 38 days, and you're behind in the polls in swing states. You've got to do something to turn it around.

And the one thing we know that will not work is what he's doing about right now, what he's talking about doing. He needs women on his side. He needs more and more voters to see him as not just presidential, but capable of being president, as being qualified for the job.

We're not going elect an insulter-in-chief. That might be how you win a debate. That might even be how you win the Republican primary. That is not at all how you're going to win the general election.

PAUL: Is there anybody, Errol, behind the scenes who can get him to shift his tactics or is it too late?

LOUIS: You know, it's fascinating by all indications, Christi, what you just saw Newt Gingrich do is how his members of his inner circle communicate with the candidate which is through the media.

That he doesn't have the kind of cabinet-style meetings where he takes a lot of input and goes into a back room and makes up his mind. That's not at all how it's done. Even his top aides have told me and other reporters that he's not coachable. He's not somebody who is going to be taking a lot of advice, at least not in the sit-down, face-to-face way that people are used to normally giving advice.

So I think we've got a history making unprecedented kind of candidacy in a lot of different ways. It is one thing to dismiss it as quirky if we're talking about February, March, April, but again, you know, we're closing in on a month until it's done.

One thing to keep in mind, Christi, people are voting right now, there's early voting in about a third of the states and more and more coming in. People are voting right now in Iowa. People are voting right now in Florida. People are voting.

PAUL: Another sign of how unconventional this whole thing is this new video that has come to light of Trump making a cameo appearance in adult video. I want to be very clear here, he's not involved in any lewd behavior. He's fully clothed.

As I understand he's simply pouring champagne on a car, but it in in a "Playboy" video nonetheless. Clinton's campaign spokesman told reporters later, quote, "There's been a lot of talk about sex tapes today.

[06:05:07]And in a strange turn of events, only one adult film has emerge today and its star is Donald Trump. That came from Nick Merrill. Now, of course, he was referring when he says sex tapes, he is referring to the whole debacle with Alicia Machado, the former Miss Universe winner.

But when you talk about how Clinton is responding and exacerbating it so to speak, and that it's working for her in that regard. Is it not unfair, in some regard, to make a headline out of -- he was in a "Playboy" video. It's not what we think it is.

LOUIS: Well, it's not what we think it is, nor is apparently this so- called sex tape by Alicia Machado nor, frankly, is the scandal of the past, the Bill Clinton scandal of the 1990s relevant or interesting or anything that anybody wants to hear about right now.

So, you know, Donald Trump brings it up. Hillary Clinton says, OK, I'll see your foolishness, and I'll raise you more foolishness. I think the disgust to the voters will be obvious in pretty short order. But this is just sort of some harmless sparring.

Again, I see the Clinton team as kind of trying to grind down Donald Trump by putting more and more money into ads, into field operations, sticking to their knitting and letting him get distracted with all kinds of things that works exactly against the one thing that he needs.

I mean, I can't say in enough time, Christi, when you look at the polls, what it says is that people don't think -- the voters that he needs the most don't think that he's qualified to be the president.

And so, you have to do something to turn that impression around and whatever else this all does, it's not going to change that.

PAUL: All right, Errol Louis, always appreciate having your voice on this. Thank you so much.

LOUIS: Thank you.

BLACKWELL: Also this morning, Donald Trump on tape and under oath. It's the deposition the Trump camp does not want you to see. It's a recording that's part of a lawsuit between Trump and a restaurant owner who backed out of a deal with Trump after he called some Mexican immigrants rapists. Here's CNN's Sunlen Serfaty with details.

SUNLEN SERFATY, CNN CORRESPONENT: Good morning, Christi and Victor. The transcript of this deposition has been previously released so the contents were somewhat known, but the video element is what makes it so much more striking.

And certainly why the Trump lawyers fought so hard against the release of this video. They didn't want it spliced up and potentially used into political ads so close to Election Day.


SERFATY (voice-over): Newly released video of Donald Trump testifying under oath.

TRUMP: Unbelievable!

SERFATY: The normally animated and bombastic GOP nominee taking a more serious and somber tone. This part of a deposition Trump made in June in his lawsuit against celebrity chef, Geoffrey Zakarian (ph). The restaurateur that backed out of opening a restaurant in Trump's new D.C. hotel after Trump said this about illegal Mexican immigrants at his presidential announcement.

TRUMP: They're bringing drugs. They're bringing crime. They're rapists and some I assume are good people.

SERFATY: Trump says the controversial comments in his speech were planned.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Did you write the statement in advance? Was it written?


UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: And did you plan in advance what you were going to say?


UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Did you talk to other people about it?


SERFATY: But it's that statement that Zakarian (ph) says caused him to reconsider his arrangement with Trump and backed out of the deal. Trump admits his decision hurt his business.

TRUMP: A lot of bad publicity because of how they handled it. They grandstanded it.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: And how does that harmed you?

TRUMP: Just a bad day of press, a bad few days of press. I don't know how we can quantify it, but I think we were hurt by the way they did it.

SERFATY: Still Trump said his campaign said his campaign success justified what he said.

TRUMP: It's not like I've said anything that was so bad because if I said something that was so bad, they wouldn't have had me go through all of these people and win all of these primary races.

SERFATY: Donald Trump's lawyers did not want this video released arguing it could potentially be used politically like popping up in campaign ads saying, quote, "Videotapes are subject to abuse."

After CNN and other media outlets filed a motion for the judge to release the tapes, the D.C. superior judge sided against Team Trump releasing the new footage despite opposition from the Trump campaign to keep the tapes under lock and key.


SERFATY: And with under 40 days to go, having this video out there certainly serves as a reminder of one of the most controversial moments of Donald Trump's campaign. A moment that the Trump campaign likely doesn't want to revisit and to put fresh out there in the minds of voters this close to Election Day -- Christi and Victor.

[06:10:08]PAUL: All right, Sunlen, thank you so much. So three days away from the vice presidential debate, we're breaking down what's at stake here and the strategies that the candidates are taking. We have a panel on that.

BLACKWELL: Also, millennials matter for Hillary Clinton, CNN goes on campus to find out why some young voters are not saying I'm with her and how Clinton is trying to win them over?

PAUL: Also talk about what's happened overseas, two American sisters found dead in a luxury hotel off the coast of Africa. Bizarre details on this deadly mystery.


BLACKWELL: All right. Just three days left now until the vice presidential debate and already Tim Kaine and Mike Pence are gearing up for this big fight. Both will have the tough task of defending the presidential candidates.

Let's bring in now Betsy McCaughey, former lieutenant governor of New York and a Donald Trump supporter. And we have A. Scott Bolden, former chairman of the Washington, D.C. Democratic Party and a Hillary Clinton supporter. Good morning to both of you.

BETSY MCCAUGHEY, TRUMP SUPPORTER: Nice to be with you, Victor.

BLACKWELL: Nice to have both of you. Lieutenant Governor, I want to start with you and inexplicably immigration really didn't come up in the first debate, but I'm pretty sure it's going to come up in the second one.

Let's listen to what Donald Trump has said over the last year about his policy dealing with the 11 million here who have not committed additional crimes. Watch.


ERIN BURNETT, CNN ANCHOR: What about those law abiding majority?

TRUMP: Sure. Now you have people that came in illegally and they're called illegal immigrants and they're here illegally. They're going to have to go and come back in legally.

ANDERSON COOPER, CNN ANCHOR: So if you haven't committed a crime and you've been here 15 years, you have a family here, a job here, will you be deported?

TRUMP: We're going to see what happens once we strengthen our border.

[06:15:00]For those who are illegally here today, who are seeking legal status, they will have one route and one route only, to return home and apply for re-entry like everybody else.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: A lot of Republicans have talked about letting people have legal status. If you work here, like the people who have lived here for a long time and contribute to society.

TRUMP: We're going to make that -- we're going to make that decision into the future.


BLACKWELL: So Mike Pence has been on the ticket for about 2-1/2 months now. Some of the most contentious moments in interviews have been after his claims Donald Trump has been consistent on this issue. He's going to have to come up with a clear answer than just consistency. It shows that there has been a shift here in his policy, has it not?

MCCAUGHEY: Well, it appears as if, when Donald Trump is asked for the specifics, he has talked with members of Congress. He's talked with advocacy groups and he's trying to bring out all of the nuances of this.

Let's make it clear. Donald Trump stands for the rule of law. He respects the immigrants who came here legally, who played by the rules and waited their turn. There are two candidate, one believes in the rule of law and the other epitomizes lawlessness. She even destroyed her own records as her time as secretary of state. She's disregarded the law and she seems to think that that's the way Americans want to believe. When in fact most Americans believe let's all play by the rules.

BLACKWELL: OK, but let me put t question to you, Scott now. The same question I asked the lieutenant governor that he's going to have to come up, Mike Pence, with a clearer answer than Donald Trump has been consistent here because we just played how Donald Trump has not been consistent here.

A.SCOTT BOLDEN, FORMER CHAIRMAN WASHINGTON, D.C. DEMOCRATIC PARTY: He's certainly hasn't been consistent. Over the course of the last couple of months that he's been all over the place. Is it 11 million that get deported? Is it 5 million or 6 million?

And look at his 10-point plan. Number eight or nine says he's going to not only make it more difficult for them to come back because it will make it more difficult given the good jobs.

And then look at the next point on his immigration plan, and this is important, he says he's going to put policies in place to return immigration to historical norms. Historical norms when America is not as brown as it is today. Historical norms of northern decent and that's in his written plan.

Having said that, Pence has to defend not only the inconsistencies, but he's also got to defend that ten-point plan of his and it's indefensible because it's not clear whether it can even be implemented box you got to go to Congress. So --

MCCAUGHEY: Let me just respond to this very quickly, Victor.


MCCAUGHEY: This is not about race and ethnicity.

BOLDEN: It's exactly about that --

MCCAUGHEY: Let me finish.


MCCAUGHEY: It's not about race and ethnicity. Donald Trump and most Americans believe everyone should be welcome in who comes legally. We should give preference to people who come with skills, with the ability to support their families, with the education. That's the way Canada and most other countries do it.

BOLDEN: But you have 11 million immigrants, illegal or otherwise --

MCCAUGHEY: I was responding --

BLACKWELL: Hold on, Scott. I want to get to another point here. I want to talk about the matters of race and the matters of ethnicity that come up in this campaign. Let's play just the Tim Kaine bite when he talked about David Duke values and KKK values. Watch this.


TIM KAINE (D), VICE PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: Yesterday, Hillary Clinton gave a speech in Reno, Nevada, calling out Donald Trump on a lot of things on this equality idea. Calling him out on the fact that he has supporters like David Duke connected with the Ku Klux Klan who are going around saying Donald Trump is their candidate because Donald Trump is pushing their values. Ku Klux Klan values, David Duke values, Donald Trump values are not American values.


BLACKWELL: You know, I went back, Scott, and watched Tim Kaine's debate with George Allen for a Senate seat and George Allen infamously used a racial epithet while he was out on the campaign.

When it came time to talk about it in the debate, Kaine shifted and talked about something else? Do you expect we'll hear him on Tuesday night and bring up this David Duke values, this KKK values line?

BOLDEN: Well, I think it's going to be part of the debate, I don't know whether he'll bring it up or not it depends on the circumstances because he's a skilled debater.

Let me just say this, it won't be surprising, though, because 60 percent of Americans believed that Donald Trump peddles in racism, bigotry, xenophobia as well as sexism.

That's a fact. That's baked into the numbers and it's driven by Donald Trump's own words, his own affiliations with white nationalist movements and the Ku Klux Klan and others.

BLACKWELL: I got to give the lieutenant governor just 15 seconds to respond.

[06:20:02]MCCAUGHEY: Yes. He has no affiliations with those groups. Let me point this out. This is just dirty politics. It's an effort by the Clinton team to distract voters from what voters themselves say is the main issue, the economy.

Donald Trump has a plan to bring jobs back to this country, to give everyone in America a hefty tax break. Hillary Clinton is going to raise their taxes. So, of course, Clinton wants to divert it with these unsubstantiated and absolutely false charges of racism.

BLACKWELL: All right, Lieutenant Governor, Scott Bolden, I thank you both. If we're talking about diversions, Donald Trump for of the last 24 to 36 hours has not been talking about the economy, he's not been talking about the economy. He's not been talking about jobs. He's been talking a lot about Alicia Machado --

BOLDEN: Exactly.

BLACKWELL: -- and we'll be having that conversation as the show goes on. Thank you both. Be sure to watch the vice presidential debate on Tuesday at 9:00 p.m. Eastern right here on CNN. Pre-game starts at 4:00 p.m. Eastern.

PAUL: A powerful Category 4 hurricane is barreling toward the Caribbean right now. The National Hurricane Center just downgraded Hurricane Matthew. It had been a Category 5 storm, but it is still packing winds of 150 miles per hour. Allison Chinchar is in the CNN weather center. Allison, what are you seeing?

ALLISON CHINCHAR, AMS METEOROLOGIST: I do want to point out that even though it's down to a Cat 4 it's only off by 2 miles per hour. We will take a look at the strength and the track and what impacts it could have for the U.S., coming up.


PAUL: Well, the good news is, it's no longer a Category 5, but Hurricane Matthew still has quite a punch to it. The National Weather Service this morning did downgrade it, but only to a Category 4.

[06:25:05]And wind speeds are still 155 miles per hour. So the potential for 25 inches of rain in parts of the Caribbean is there.

BLACKWELL: This threat, of course, far from over, the hurricane now moving closer and closer to Jamaica and Cuba and Haiti. Let's get to meteorologist, Allison Chinchar in the CNN Weather Center. Allison, I wonder if Florida is next, what is this going?

CHINCHAR: Well, that's going to be the key because Florida is not out of the woods yet. We still will have to keep a very close eye on the tracks.

So here's what we do know about Matthew. Winds right now 155 miles per hour. I want to emphasize, it's a Category 4, but if that were 157 miles per hour it would be a Category 5, so we're not talking very far off.

While it has been downgraded, don't count this storm out completely. It's still very strong and has the potential to cause devastation, across some of the countries that it. Moving out of the west at 7 miles per hour. That is expected to change in the next 24 hours as it moves to a more northerly track.

Category 4, that's what we talked about, but it's the track. That's what everybody wants to know because that's really where we're going to have some of our big impact.

So let's take a look. Here's a look at the actual storm. Again, it has a very defined eye with it. Notice the track takes it up towards Jamaica. First major hurricane to hit Jamaica since 1988.

Then as it gets a little bit closer, we're talking Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday of next week, that's when there's the potential. If it waits a little too long before it shifts to the north it could end up making an impact over Miami and then sliding up the Atlantic Coast.

Again, guys, that's going to be something we're going to have to keep a very close eye on. It all depends on how quickly it turns north sometime today. Then we'll be able to get a more definitive look on the actual track.

BLACKWELL: All right, we'll trust to you watch it, Allison. Thanks so much.

PAUL: It is such a mystery off the coast of Africa right now. Two American sisters found dead in a luxury hotel room and no visible signs of injury. The bizarre details coming up next.


[06:30:45] BLACKWELL: Welcome back. 30 minutes after the hour now. Hillary Clinton is really trying to win over millennials. They are crucial to keep together that coalition she needs to win. The democratic nominee is struggling to get support from those younger voters who, as I said fueled President Obama's path to the White House.

PAUL: Yes, so lately, Hillary Clinton has been dispatching high- powered surrogates trying to make inroads for those younger voters.

It's been a challenge, though for her going back to her kind of bruising primary fight with Bernie Sanders. So now in the home stretch of this election, are her efforts paying off? CNN's Chief Political Correspondent Dana Bash hit the road to find out.


DANA BASH, CNN CHIEF POLITICAL CORRESPONDENT: At field offices and 280 college campuses, millennials work the phones for Hillary Clinton.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I was wondering if you'd like to come out and do voter registration or a phone bank with us this weekend?

BASH: Young voters fuelled President Obama's win. He got 60% of 18 to 29-year-olds in 2012. A demo that was nearly 20% of the vote now could be growing.

HILLARY CLINTON, (D) PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: Young people could represent 25% of the vote.

BASH: Team Clinton is putting such a premium on millennials they hired youth directors in key battleground states. Lillie Catlin runs North Carolina and says social media is key.

LILLIE CATLIN, NC YOUTH VOTE DIRECTOR, CLINTON CAMPAIGN: You know we can't necessarily knock on ever dorm or if students move every year and so it's, you know, having those kinds of conversations but through our text lists or through twitter.

BASH: Still, polls show Clinton is underperforming with millennials, so the campaign is deploying high-profile surrogates. Bernie Sanders is lobbying his army of young supporters.

SEN. BERNIE SANDERS, (I-VT) FORMER PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: It is imperative that we elect Hillary Clinton as our next president. BASH: Chelsea Clinton is hop scotching college towns. Why has it been

so hard for your mom to do that, to get people your age to get behind her?

CHELSEA CLINTON, HILLARY CLINTON'S DAUGHTER: Well, Dana, thank you for including me in the millennial demographic, I'm just at the older end. If we think about the younger millennials, we think only about 55% of 18 to 24 year olds were even registered to vote at the beginning of 2016. So that says to me we just need to be doing a better job collectively on making the case of what's at stake in this election.

BASH: At East Carolina University in North Carolina, we heard why it's been so hard. What is your experience in getting your friends on the Hillary Clinton train?

ANNIKEN WILLIAMS, VICE PRESIDENT OF COLLEGE DEMOCRATS OF NC: Well, it's been pretty difficult, especially because of a lot of young people especially at EC were for Bernie Sanders.

BASH: One Sanders support challenged Chelsea directly saying the primary was rigged for Clinton?

ZACHARY PATE, STUDENT, EAST CAROLINA UNIVERSITY: What moral ground does Hillary Clinton have to stand on to continue running as the Democratic nominee?

C. CLINTON: I would hope is someone who clearly is a passionate support of Senator Sanders that you'll listen to him directly and not rely on me to make the case.

BASH: He really came to protest and walked out holding a sign for green party candidate Jill Stein.

BASH: You don't really think Jill Stein can win, do you?

PATE: I think that we're going to establish party power and relevance for the Green Party by doing what we're doing.

BASH: Losing millennials to third party candidates is a dire concern for Clinton.

MICHELLE OBAMA, FIRST LADY: If you vote for someone other than Hillary or if you don't vote at all then you are helping to elect Hillary's opponent.

BASH: For some that's working. Erick Jenkins was a Sanders delegate who told us Clinton's College Affordability Plan convinced him.

ERICK JENKINS, STUDENT, EAST CAROLINA UNIVERSITY: Leveling out the cuts in colleges and states and also making the federal government match it fourfold.

BASH: But stroll through campus, it's clear Clinton has work to do.

Who are you going to vote for?




BASH: Dana Bash, CNN, Greenville, North Carolina.


PAUL: All right, Symone Sanders with us now CNN Political Commentator and former National Press Secretary for Bernie Sanders, now, a Hillary Clinton supporter. Simone, thank you for being here.


PAUL: Excellent. OK. We want to talk real quickly about why young voters matter so much. Because at the end of the day they can swing states. Take a look at some of the exit polls from a few states back in 2012.

Young voters made up 19% of the vote in Pennsylvania. 16% in Florida, 16% in North Carolina, 19% in Virginia, and 19% in New Hampshire. One poll, there it is, a more recent poll, shows that between August and September, Hillary Clinton went from 48% support of young voters to 31%. We're talking about a 17% decrease in one month's time. What is happening?


SANDERS: Well, one, I don't think folks should be too alarmed by that one poll and here's why. We're professional politicos as I like to say who have been tuned in to this election for well over a year. But lots of millennials, again those are folks 18 to 34, sometimes, 35, are just now tuning in. And, so what you saw in those polls were the initial reactions of young people who are just now dialing into this election.

I think young voters care about the issues. And Secretary Clinton has to continue to go out there and make her case on the issues. What you saw her doing with Senator Sanders this week was having a panel discussion conversation about the issues some young people care about, the free college.

What you saw her doing yesterday on the campaign trail was unveiling her national service plan, a plan that is going to give loan forgiveness, actually, to young people that participate.

So, these are the kind of things that (inaudible). She's got an entrepreneurship plan. But we've only got 39 days -- 38 days at this point.

PAUL: Right, right.

SANDERS: So we've got to kick it up.

PAUL: Well, and we just saw in that piece from Dana, you know one student saying, I'm a Hillary Clinton fan but I'm having a tough time getting my friends who were Bernie Sanders supporters on board.

You had that other gentleman who left the conference with -- or the rally with Chelsea Clinton saying, I'm going to vote third party because my point is to establish, better establish the power of that party. How do you convince them because she needs these numbers?

SANDERS: So, one what I say to young voters when I'm out here traveling I say there's not a viable third party -- third party option in this election. So, I know some folks want a viable third party option. If you look at the libertarian platform and the green party platform and compare it to the democratic platform, there is -- there's no dice, it's night and day between those -- between those platforms when it comes to -- and the democratic platform prevails.

The other thing I want to note is, in 2012, President Obama did win the youth vote, but he didn't win on the strength of young white voters. He lost young white voters actually. He won on the strength of the young African-American and Latino voters. He won 95% of African- American voters.

So, those are some of the folks that the Clinton campaign has to go out there and target and folks that are not just on college campuses. You know they're young people that have families, that own businesses, you won't find them on a college campus.

So they've been doing some of these millennial happy hours, reaching out to some of those folks. And, I think those are going to be effective. And this next debate, which is a town hall format, I also think is going to help her numbers ...

PAUL: ... you know Chelsea Clinton -- Chelsea Clinton said that gentleman, you know, I hope that you that can let Bernie Sander -- listen to Bernie Sanders' directive to vote for Hillary Clinton. This is has not been a good few weeks for Gary Johnson when we're talking about who can influence here. Even his running mate Bill Weld said this about Hillary Clinton earlier. Take a listen.


BILL WELD, LIBERTARIAN VICE PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: I'm not sure anybody's more qualified than Hillary Clinton to be President of the United States.


SANDERS: Well, he didn't get the (inaudible) ...

PAUL: Well, right. But I just want to know how open are Bernie Sanders to shift away from third parties come election day?

SANDERS: I think they're very open. We have to remember folks got behind Senator Sanders in the primary campaign because they believed in what Bernie was saying. And he was talking about the issues, whatever your issue was, Bernie Sanders had a policy platform for it and he made sure he let you know. So, the way that Secretary Clinton wins young voters is not talking

about her very rich history of fighting for families and children which is great, but those aren't what (inaudible) really care about the issue. You don't have enough time to move people on their hearts and minds, but we can move them on the issues. So that's what Secretary Clinton and the Clinton campaign has to do.

PAUL: The clock is definitely ticking, no way around it for both camps here. Simone Sanders, we appreciate it so much, thank you.

SANDERS: No problem, thanks.

BLACKWELL: Up next, this mystery in paradise?

Have you heard about this? Two sisters found dead in their room at a luxury resort in Seychelles. Bizarrely, there were no visible signs of injury. We've got the details that have investigators finding this to be even more bizarre.



PAUL: Well, new information into CNN on the death of two American sisters who were vacationing in Africa.

Autopsies reveal Robin and Annie Korkki both died of excess fluid in their lungs.

BLACKWELL: Now, the women were found dead in a luxury hotel room in Seychelles, that's off the coast of Africa. Rosa Flores has this story.


ROSA FLORES, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Loving sisters, best friends, wanted to experience life to the fullest. That's how Robin and Annie Korkki are being described. Two women who died in mysterious circumstances while on the vacation of a lifetime in Seychelles.

Police on the tropical island paradise in the Indian Ocean say hotel workers at the Maya Resort found the two Minnesota natives unresponsive in their luxury villa on September 22nd.

Robin, 42, a commodities trader and younger sister, Annie, 37, an Administrative Assistant at JP Morgan Chase, arrived to May Seychelles on September 15th after sightseeing in Kenya and Tanzania.

Local police say the women appeared to be so intoxicated the night before they died that hotel staff had to assist the pair to their villa. It would be the last time they were seen alive. A preliminary autopsy report revealed both women's death to be fluid in their lungs, a condition known as pulmonary edema.

The autopsy for Annie Korkki showed fluid in the brain or cerebral edema as a contributing factor in her death. Toxicology reports are pending and the police investigation is ongoing.

In a place known for its beauty and serenity described by Annie Korkki as the best place ever. Family members face the somber task of bringing their loved ones back to the U.S. on their final journey home.

Rosa Flores, CNN, Chicago.


PAUL: Certainly thinking about that family.


You know, we are just hours away from kickoff of the biggest college football weekend of the season. Andy Scholes -- Andy Scholes is a busy man this time of year.

ANDY SCHOLES, CNN SPORTS ANCHOR: Hi, Christi, you know the weekend started early for a pair of top-ten teams, and it turned out to be one long night for one of them.


PAUL: I don't know if you're aware but more than 25 million senior citizens live in poverty. A segment of this population is especially fragile easily falling outside any financial safety net into homelessness. Well, this week's CNN hero shining a light on this forgotten group meet, Isha Desselle.


ISHA DESSELLE, CNN HERO: When you're older living on the street, it's a very scary place. You're much more vulnerable. The people who are in between the ages of 50nd 62, society views them as too old for working and too young for social security. They need help. It's like, you don't exist and that's wrong.


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PAUL: All righty. October.


PAUL: Yes, we are there.


PAUL: And this weekend's college football games could have a huge impact on who's going to make the playoffs in January. Already.

BLACKWELL: Yes. Andy Scholes, here with more in this morning's Bleacher Report. Already October.


SCHOLES: Yes, you know what guys this is one of the Saturdays you're going to want to stay on the couch all day, hang out, watch football. You know this weekend we have not one, not two, but three match ups between top 10 teams.

The first game actually came last night. Number 7, Stanford travelling to Seattle to face undefeated number 10 Washington and the Huskies straight up just dominated this game both sides of the ball. They scored the game's first 30 points and went on to crush the Cardinal 34-6. (inaudible) the first night since 1992, that year they made it all the way to the (inaudible).

All right, today, another big game, number 8 Wisconsin is going to go to the big house in Ann Arbor to face Michigan. Kick off for that one 3:30 eastern. Then the night cap at 8:00, it's a clash of Heisman hopeful quarterback's current frontrunner Lamar Jackson and his number 3 Louisville Cardinal is going to take on Deshaun Watson and the number 5 Clemson Tigers.

And you know it's the last weekend of the baseball regular season. And I'll tell you what, San Francisco Giants, not in the mood to mess around. Check this out.

A fan ran onto the field during the fourth inning of their game at the Dodgers last night. He was offering the players an object. Outfielder Angel Pagan having none of it, he body slams the fan and holds him down until security gets there to escort him off the field. And Pagan said afterward guys, that, you know, it's kind of scary when a fan runs on the field, you don't really know what they're going to do, and he just wanted to end that fan's run and get the game going again.

But, check it out again. He kind of fooled them, put his hand out, like OK, I'll take it, boom, took him down.

BLACKWELL: That's a deterrent.

PAUL: At least the fan was clothed.

BLACKWELL: Yes, yes.

PAUL: Because, you know, we've seen where they haven't been and that can get a little dicey. Would he still have body slammed him?

SCHOLES: I don't know.

BLACKWELL: Probably would not have.

SCHOLES: I don't think he would have had his hand out and welcomed him in if that --


PAUL: Just saying. And happy Saturday morning to you. As we have that conversation. Andy, thank you so much.

BLACKWELL: All right. A new season and a new Trump for Saturday Night Live. A look at the new set of laughs in late night T.V., that's coming up.



BLACKWELL: Well, late night hosts are getting a lot of good material thanks to the 2016 campaign. And now Gary Johnson is donating again, finding himself the target of some jokes after another awkward moment on T.V..

PAUL: I get so -- I get so embarrassed for people...

BLACKWELL: ... A little anxious, yes.

PAUL: I mean the libertarian candidate was at an MSNBC Town Hall. He stumbled over a question about world leaders. This is what happened.


UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Who's your favorite foreign leader?


CONAN O'BRIEN, TBS HOST: Any, just name anywhere in the -- anyone of the continents, any country. Name one foreign leader that you respect and look up to, anybody.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Mine was Shimon Peres.

O'BRIEN: No, no, OK, I'm talking about living. Go ahead. You've got to do this, anywhere, any continent, Canada, Mexico, Europe, over there, Asia, South America, Africa, name a foreign leader that you respect.

JOHNSON: I guess I'm having an Aleppo moment in the former president of Mexico.

O'BRIEN: But I'm giving you the whole world.

PAUL: So TBS host Conan O'Brien took that moment and ran it straight from the Johnson camp to the Donald Trump camp.

O'BRIEN: Yesterday, libertarian candidate Gary Johnson was giving a television interview and was unable to name a single foreign leader. Couldn't name one. Sounds like someone wants to be Donald Trump's Secretary of State.

(END VIDEO CLIP) PAUL: Oh it's just -- I don't even know what it is. There's a new Trump, though in late night T.V. we should point out.

BLACKWELL: Alec Baldwin, and he's no stranger to late night stage or to SNL. He'll play the republican nominee on "Saturday Night Live" through election day. Here's Jeanne Moos.


JEANNE MOOS, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Expect Alec Baldwin to come down with case of the sniffles Saturday night as he begins his gig opposite Kate Mackinnon as "SNL's" new Donald Trump even if he's no fan of the Donald --

ALEC BALDWIN, ACTOR: We don't really want a president who looks like he's been dipped in movie popcorn butter [ laughter ].

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The tangerine tornado.

MOOS: Baldwin follows impersonators like Phil Hartman and Darrel Hammond.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Love my neighbor as thy self and like a good neighbor, state farm is there.

MOOS: Baldwin has been there hosting SNL 16 times, but he's never played Trump. We've seen him do everyone from Tony Bennett to a guy named Pete Schwetty selling balls of treats.

BALDWIN: No one can resist my Schwetty balls.


MOOS: But will Baldwin have a ball with Kate McKinnon?

KATE MCKINNON: All anyone wants to talk about is Donald Trump.

CLINTON: Donald Trump, isn't he the one that's like, uh, you're all losers.

MOOS: But Donald himself is no stranger to "SNL." Dancing with chickens.

Advertising Trump's house of wings in 2004 and the hotline bling last year. This isn't the first time "SNL" hired someone to play a politician during an election year.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You can actually see Russia from land here in Alaska.

MOOS: Tina Faye twisted that line.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: And I can see Russia from high house.

MOOS: How deeply can SNL impersonations infiltrate our minds?

Who said I can see Russia from my house?



UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Oh, that was Palin.


MOOS: Tina Fey, actually.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Tina Fey? She didn't say that.

MOOS: Will Alec Baldwin's lines be mistaken for Trump's? Mimicking the Donald is nothing to act.

Jeanne Moos, CNN, New York.


BLACKWELL: I don't know, it's going to be tough to beat Darryl Hammond.

PAUL: Oh, he's so good isn't he?

BLACKWELL: It's going to be really tough to beat him.

PAUL: A lot of pressure on Alec Baldwin.

BLACKWELL: I like his Tony Bennett. He does a great Tony Bennett.

PAUL: I think that he can handle it though. Something tells me we'll see tonight.

All righty, we've got so much news to tell you about this morning.

BLACKWELL: Next hour of your "New Day" starts right now.

PAUL: And good Saturday morning to you. We've been waiting for you. I'm Christi Paul.

BLACKWELL: I'm Victor Blackwell. Good to be with you.

PAUL: So, this morning, Donald Trump, not seeming to back down, ramping up attacks in fact against Hillary Clinton in a new interview with "The New York Times."

BLACKWELL: Yes, he is vowing to bring up Bill Clinton's previous indiscretions while sidestepping questions about his own extramarital affairs.

Let's bring in CNN Chris Frates. Chris, so what else are we learning from this "New York Times" interview, pretty revealing?

CHRIS FRATES, CNN INVESTIGATIONS CORRESPONDENT: Yes, it was pretty revealing Victor, he had a lot to say after what's been really a bad week for Donald Trump. Right, he had a lackluster debate performance. He had allegations he called a former Miss Universe "Miss Piggy." And Trump's really been dogged by these bad headlines and really essentially on the defensive.