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Candidates Campaign in Ohio; Conjoined Twins in Recovery After Surgery; U.S. Working to Stop Russian Hackers. Aired 10:30-11a ET
Aired October 14, 2016 - 10:30 ET
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POPPY HARLOW, CNN ANCHOR: Welcome back. This is CNN NEWSROOM. I'm Poppy Harlow in today for Carol Costello. So glad you're with us. The candidates and their surrogates barnstorming Ohio and here's why. A brand new poll shows this race could not be tighter in the Buckeye state. That's why you've got the President and Bill Clinton there today.
The stakes could not be higher. No one has won the White House without winning Ohio since 1960. Jobs and the economy are a top worry there and in other key swing states like Pennsylvania and Florida, so we've been traveling through those states hearing firsthand from the voters. Here's what they told us in Ohio.
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HARLOW(ph): This neighborhood in Cleveland, Ohio was one of the strongest for President Obama in 2012. Mitt Romney did not get a single vote from people living in these homes, not one. People living here have been struggling economically for a long time and they still are. So the question is, will they come out in droves for Hillary Clinton the way they did for President Obama?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Hillary.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Hillary is the best candidate.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: That's a no-brainer.
HARLOW(ph): There have been decades of economic despair and a dwindling faith that politicians will help.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I think the democratic platform is saying the same thing we have heard for about the past 50 years.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Over and over.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Over and over.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Since the war on poverty was declared.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes.
HARLOW(ph): Jeff Crosby used to be in gangs. That landed him in prison. Now he's working to keep kids from the same life he lived.
JEFF CROSBY: It's one of the highest crime areas in Cleveland.
HARLOW: This is?
CROSBY: Yes. There's about ten gangs over here. What's up? You good?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes.
CROSBY: I think the democratic party's taking us for granted. The republican party literally ignores us, except for Trump. Trump is striving to make inroads, but he is a polarizing figure.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I just don't trust Donald, that's all.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Because he got money, that ain't everything.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I'm willing to vote for a clown before Donald Trump.
HARLOW: Really?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yes, with a red nose.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I do agree with republicans sometimes, but I don't agree with nothing that Donald Trump stands for.
HARLOW: And that brings us to the second part of this Ohio chapter, 200 miles south. We're in Pike County, Ohio, and this place matters a lot. Not for the number of votes here, but because of what it represents. It used to be solidly blue but it's been moving more and more red. In 2012, this was the closest(ph) county in the country.
Mitt Romney won here by a single vote, just one vote. It's 96 percent white, largely blue color, and unemployment here is high. These are exactly the voters Donald Trump has been speaking to. So if his message isn't resonating here, he's in trouble. [10:35:03]
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I'd say right now you're looking at a coin toss.
HARLOW: A coin toss among union workers, who, until now, have been solidly blue. Have you ever seen anything like that before?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: No.
HARLOW: So Donald Trump says he's the one to bring these jobs back. He's the one to build up your industry?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Donald Trump saying that, it's total propaganda. Where is his merchandise made? What does he have to offer to American industry? Nothing.
HARLOW: Many here do believe Trump and see him as their best shot at getting ahead. Since 2000, Ohio has lost nearly a third of its manufacturing jobs.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He has a lot of things he is amazing that he was telling he can do for us.
HARLOW: Angie Shanks runs a real estate firm here.
ANGIE SHANKS, OHIO REALTOR: It's needs more jobs. More better paying jobs.
HARLOW: You voted for President Obama in 2008.
SHANKS: Yes I did.
HARLOW: But her faith in the Obama administration has faded.
SHANKS: I think Trump is a businessman and the country is a business. It needs to be run as a business.
HARLOW: When we met Angie, she was leaning toward Trump. Now after the Access Hollywood tape surfaced, she's reconsidering.
HARLOW: You're a lifelong democrat?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes.
HARLOW: So you're voting for Hillary this time around?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: No, I'm not.
HARLOW: No?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: My dad was a coal miner. They put the coal miners out of work.
HARLOW: We left Ohio asking this question: Why does economic pain from one town to the next push some people left and others right.
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HARLOW: You can see the voters there are clearly divided on who will better for their personal economy. We should note, this was filmed before the 2005 Access Hollywood tape of Donald Trump surfaced. We called back all of those Trump supporters in all of the swing states and nearly every one with the exception of just a few are still supporting Donald Trump. You can see much more in our special report, "Your Money, Your Vote," airing tomorrow night 7:30 p.m. Eastern, right here on CNN. Coming up: A rare surgery separating two toddlers conjoined at the head, just incredible. Dr. Sanjay Gupta takes us on this emotional journey.
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HARLOW: OK. What I'm about to show you is remarkable. It is just incredible. A team of surgeons have accomplished a miraculous feat, successfully separating 13-month old twins who were conjoined at the head. The brothers went into surgery early yesterday morning and CNN has been exclusive access to the McDonald family's emotionally trying, faith-testing journey. Here's our chief medical correspondent, Dr. Sanjay Gupta. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
DR. SANJAY GUPTA, CNN CHIEF MEDICAL CORRESPONDENT: Good morning, Christian, how you doing? How are the guys? They look ready.
GUPTA: 7:15 a.m. This is the day the McDonald's have been waiting for the last year in the hope that Jadon and Anais, 13-month-old conjoined twins will be separated at last. What were you thinking when you were running down the hall this morning? What was going through your mind?
NICOLE MCDONALD, MOTHER OF CONJOINED TWINS: This is not real. It's really not even real. To me it's like another surgery from before.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Are you talking to me?
GUPTA (voice over): Jadon and Anais were born sharing one and a half cm of brain tissue. They are known as craniopagus twins and have undergone three complex operations over the past five months to slowly separate them. Today is the fourth and final stage.
DR. JAMES GOODRICH, NEUROSURGEON: So here is a model of our present set of twins, and we have - this is Anais on this side and this is Jadon on this side.
GUPTA (voice over): No one in the world has operated on more twins like Jadon and Anais than neurosurgeon James Goodrich.
GUPTA: When you first met the McDonalds, did you lay out any specific statistics? Did you - how did you approach it with them? Was it more of a scientific discussion or an emotional one?
GOODRICH: I said the goal is, ideally, is to have both children come out without neurological issues, but one has to be realistic. I mean, you cannot separate two brains, particularly if there is fusion, without the potential risk of something happening.
GUPTA (voice over): Helping improve those changes of a good outcome, 3D models like these, lifelike, anatomically perfect, and available in the operating room. They act as a blueprint to practice and review before the operation even begins.
GUPTA: I want to give you a little bit of an idea of what's happening here. in order to do this operation, they've got to continuously move Jadon and Anais, so this is the position that they're in beforehand and they're essentially flipped like this and then like this. So now they're going to focus on this part of the bone and this part of the brain.
GUPTA (voice over): 4:30 p.m., just about seven hours after the operation began, Nicole, Christian, and their entire family are playing the waiting game.
GUPTA: Do you feel anxious? Are you settled or how do you feel?
CHRISTIAN MCDONALD, FATHER OF CONJOINED TWINS: I think I have a little nervous energy.
NICOLE: What's waiting in my stomach is for that phone call, OK, we're into, I call it the land of the unknown.
GUPTA (voice over): An hour later, the surgical team hits the land of the unknown and then well past midnight they continue to work through the twins' brains, vein by vein. And then 2:11 a.m.
GUPTA: It's been about 17 hours now since they started operating, and you can see for the first time Jadon and Anais are on two separate operating room tables.
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HARLOW: That's incredible, two separate operating tables.
GUPTA: First time, first time in their lives.
HARLOW: How are the boys doing after? [10:44:59]
GUPTA: Well, this literally is just ending. You know, Jadon went up to the intensive care unit. He was doing pretty well. Anais literally just got out of the operating room. Longest operation ever for this particular surgeon, separating conjoined twins. It's going to take some time. And the whole team knows that. They're not - the boys are going to stay sedated for a period of time still.
HARLOW: How did these parents come to this decision? I mean, for me, I just - watching it this morning and thinking, how does a parent decide to do this?
GUPTA: You know it was very difficult. This is in some ways, not just a life improving operation, but some could argue a lifesaving operation as well. Conjoined twins, twins who are conjoined this way, 80 percent of them don't make it to their second birthday. Only ten percent of them survive to their tenth birthday after the age of two. But they still had a hard decision.
You know, the mom said to me, she said, "I'm grieving today" - the day of the operation - "I'm grieving because I know my boys should be separated but I love them the way they are." And that was - that was really powerful because she's so used to interacting with them and they're just delightful, they have their individual personalities. So it was tough decision.
HARLOW: So one's this side(ph) or one's the more rambunctious.
GUPTA: He tries to roll over to try and get the other one. He steals his toys. It's just really interesting.
HARLOW: And she said - to hear her say in her other piece, Sanjay, they are perfect. It just shows you a mother's and a parent's love for these amazing kids.
GUPTA: No question. And she found out, she did all the research and did this all on her own, moved her family from Southern Illinois in a small town to the Bronx, all for the love of her family.
HARLOW: That's incredible. I know you'll bring us the story when these two little boys are running around.
GUPTA: I hope to. I really hope to.
HARLOW: Sanjay, thank you.
GUPTA: You got it. Thank you.
HARLOW: We'll be right back.
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HARLOW: No legal tools will be off the table. That is what U.S. government officials are saying as they plan their response to Russia's apparent election year hacking. Officials now telling CNN the evidence is mounting and it shows that WikiLeaks is being used as a delivery vehicle where Russian hackers dump their stolen material. CNN money tech correspondent Laurie Segall is here with me now. I mean, no election has ever faced anything like this before.
LAURIE SEGALL, CNN MONEY TECH CORRESPONDENT: It's unprecedented. And I mean I'll tell you this, Poppy, it's very rare for the U.S. government to come out and point their fingers at another government and say, "We believe that you hacked to interfere with the election." We've seen the U.S. government accused China, North Korea before.
So it is very rare, and of course the next question is, okay, now that you've said this, they've said that there's going to be a proportional response. So what is a proportional response? I spoke to the department of justice official, John Carlin, and he named a number of different ways that the U.S. could respond, a number of different consequences. Listen to what he said.
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JOHN CARLIN, U.S. DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE OFFICIAL: Consequences can range from - these are all legally available tools - prosecuting someone, using the treasury department authority to sanction individuals or companies or nation states responsible. It could be diplomatic. It could be military if it's a case where it's called death or destruction. It could be covert action. And then, the way we've done it with terrorism or weapons of mass destruction is we sit around the situation room and construct a strategy that will cause pain to the adversary, that will cause them to change their behavior.
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SEGALL: And what he said to me was also, you know, look at the Chinese hackers. A couple years ago, they put five Chinese hackers behind. They said, we will come after you, we will find you, we will put you behind bars. So they want to make a statement with this, Poppy.
HARLOW: When you look at what the next administration can do, they're going to face this again no question. Did he say there's anything that the next president can do?
SEGALL: Yes, he said, you know, what we can do and what the U.S. government can do is work better with private companies to share information. Then he also said something that I found fascinating. He said, we have to, as we move into the internet of things, where everything to your cars to pacemakers are connected to the internet, we have to make sure security's built in.
Because this is one way that a nation state out there and(ph) government can hack, but look at all the vulnerability's we are building in the connected world. So that's something they have to take into account, because that's going to be the conversation of the future happening in the situation room.
HARLOW: Planes, cars, pacemakers.
SEGALL: The internet.
HARLOW: Laurie, fascinating, thank you very much. Much more of that on CNNmoney.com. Coming up next hour: President Obama in the battleground state of Ohio. We will be covering his speech. We will bring that to you live.
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HARLOW: All right, checking top stories: The civilian casualties are mounting in Aleppo, Syria. Now diplomats are preparing to meet, hoping to stop the bloodshed, but Syrian President Bashar al-Assad is now saying his army will use the city as "a springboard" to get rid of terrorist.
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BASHAR AL-ASSAD, PRESIDENT OF SYRIA: The sense to full test(ph) political gain of the twenty who live in(ph) political gain. That's because naturally, from the Setty(ph) point of view, military point of view, you know you don't have it(ph). It's going to be the springboard, as a big city, to move to another area, to invade another area from the terrorists. This is worse than for (ph)(INAUDIBLE).
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HARLOW: Talks between the United States, Russia, and several regional powers about Syria begin again tomorrow in Switzerland. Meantime Hurricane Nicole is now weakening as it moves out to sea way from Bermuda. Here's a look at the storm from space as it passed over the island, packing 125-mile-an-hour winds. Nicole never officially made landfall.
It was a rainmaker, though, as much as eight inches of rain expected to fall in Bermuda when it is all said and done. And a new Zika zone has been identified in Miami. Florida governor, Rick Scott, announced five confirmed cases of the Zika virus in the Little River neighborhood.
The CDC has issued a travel advisory for the infected area, approximately one square mile wide. It is the third Miami neighborhood with Zika transmissions coming from local mosquitos. Coming up on CNN: Anthony Bourdain travels to China and gets a taste of spicy cuisine. Here's a look.
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ANTHONY BOURDAIN (voice over): The way it works is you order a whole bunch of ingredients, meat, vegetables, noodles, fish, whatever you like; a lot of different ingredients. And you feed them into the pot.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: At dogtown(ph), we should just throw first.
BOURDAIN: Yes, because that's going to take a long time. That's where that tripe is. It's called, like thousand-layer stomach. It's all going in there, man.
BOURDAIN (voice over): The inner ring is a more neutral broth. The outer ring, though, is the good stuff. The hard stuff.
BOURDAIN: Oh, that's good, man. That's good.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: That was our first bite of hog body(ph).
BOURDAIN: Awesome, right? And it only gets better my friend.
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HARLOW: Be sure to watch Anthony Bourdain's "PARTS UNIDENTIFIED." That is Sunday night 9 Eastern right here on CNN. That does it for me. I'll see you back here tomorrow afternoon, but for now "AT THIS HOUR" with Berman and Bolduan starts now. [11:00:00]
JOHN BERMAN, CNN HOST: Hello, everyone, I'm John Berman.
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