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Two Weeks to Election, Candidates Fight for Florida; Down Four Points, Trump Predicts "Big" Florida Win; Clinton Has Advantage in Florida Early Voting; Mixed Opinions on Decision to Expand Heathrow; Florida Farmers Prepare for Tough Winter, Tougher Election; Apple's Annual Sales Fall for First Time Since 2001; Florida Struggle with Orange Harvest Crisis; Race for the (Miniature) White House;
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[16:00:00] RICHARD QUEST, CNN ANCHOR: Preet Bharara ringing the closing bell. The U.S. attorney for the southern district of New York, the number
one prosecutor for white color crime is ringing the closing bell on Wall Street. I'm expecting a good strong gavel from Mr. Bharara and when he
closes -- not surprised. Look at that, if there was ever a strong robust gavel, it is from Preet Bharara. Trading is over.
Tonight, all roads to the White House run through Florida. Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump are in the Sunshine State and so are we. For tonight's
show, on Tuesday, it's the 25th of October. I'm Richard Quest, live in Florida, where I mean business.
Good evening. We come to you today from the citrus groves of central Florida. Yesterday we were in Tallahassee the state capital. While
overnight we drove my Mustang all of the way down, right the way through to the center of the state where we are, and we are not alone. The throaty
roar of the mustang and the throaty roar of politics followed us on our way.
Tonight, Trump and Hillary Clinton have also descended on the Sunshine State. There are two weeks to election day exactly. Now millions of votes
are already being cast with early voting here in Florida. Not surprising then the candidates have come to this swing state with its 29 electoral
college votes and are making a final push to secure one of the most crucial states.
To put it in perspective, 1.6 million ballots were cast in the first day of early voting. Now what this means in reality is half of the state will
already have voted before November the 8th. And the latest polls show Hillary Clinton has a four-point lead. So, where are the politicians?
Clinton is in Coconut Creek to the south. Donald Trump is holding two events, first in Sanford, second in Tallahassee. I'm just about an hour
away from where Donald Trump is speaking at the moment. These are live pictures from Mr. Trump speaking at the moment. Just listening in.
DONALD TRUMP, U.S. REPUBLICAN PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: .on November 8th that we're not stupid. We're not stupid.
And here's another beauty. A breaking news story today provides one of the most shocking revelations to date. As you may remember, President Obama
claimed to have no knowledge whatsoever of Clinton's -- Hillary Clinton's - - illegal email server. I have no knowledge of it. I don't know. This guy, he's as bad she is. And he's got to stop campaigning and bring us
some jobs, OK,
QUEST: There we have Donald Trump interestingly behind him we see a sign for the lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender community and also for the
black community. So, they are deliberately putting minority groups behind Donald Trump as he speaks in these last few days.
Hillary Clinton and the Democrats have the advantage in the early voting, and she's been getting out the vote about an hour north of Miami in a
stronghold for Democrats. She says high turnout means people are coming together against the message of Donald Trump.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
HILLARY CLINTON, U.S. DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: At the very moment, when Trump is making an unprecedented attack on our democracy,
millions of people are registering, voting early, and volunteering in this campaign.
And here's something very exciting. We have reached a milestone. More than 200 million Americans are now registered and that includes 50 million
young people, the most ever in history. And you know what, more than six million people have already voted and more than one million of them are
right here in Florida.
[16:05:00] So, I think you only see numbers like this when people are standing up for what they really believe in and that includes not just
Democrats but Republicans and independents coming together to reject hate and division. And I am so excited about what that means.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
QUEST: So, Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump, as the map shows, both campaigning in Florida. Which of course, is a true must win state.
Certainly, for the Republican nominee. Without Florida's 29 electoral votes, Donald Trump would literally have to sweep the board for all the
other battleground states. Out West and also right up into the north of the country and to North Carolina as well. He would have no choice.
For Hillary Clinton, Florida would be putting her in touch of 270 electoral college votes. Always remember, the winner has one the last five
elections. The winner of Florida has won the last five elections. We'd have to go back to 1992. Bill Clinton, for the last winner who didn't take
Florida, Bill Clinton. John King is at his super screen in Washington to bring us more as we look at the latest CNN polling.
JOHN KING, CHIEF NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Our new CNN/ORC national polls shows Hillary Clinton up by five points heading into the final two weeks.
That's a narrower gap than some other national polls, but five points is still pretty big for secretary Clinton. The Obama/Romney race four years
ago was one point on this day. A one point lead for the president.
We want to look deep inside the poll for some interesting nuggets to keep an eye on as we head into the final two weeks. Number one, look at the
Midwest, Donald Trump's path to the presidency, I'll show you this more in a bit, was through the Midwest, through the Rust Belt states. But Hillary
Clinton leads by seven points right now in the Midwest, a big gain for her in places that matter come electoral college.
Let's take it out west as well. Out West, Donald Trump needs to do better in the West. California influences this a little bit. But still, an 11-
point lead for Hillary Clinton in the Western states. I'll show you again in a second why that matters more.
If you're Donald Trump, if there is anything encouraging in our poll, it's that you're running ahead among independents. A key swing group in the
electorate. Donald Trump leading 45 to 41. But before he celebrates, Mitt Romney won this constituency by five points over Barack Obama among
independents four years ago. And of course, Mitt Romney lost the election. So, that margin for Donald Trump, while it's one positive in our poll,
probably not enough.
Let's take a look at one other data point here. We come down to Florida. This one here is a little stunning. Hillary Clinton leading among voters
age 65 and older, by five points, 50 percent to 45 percent. Among the most reliable voters in the country. Mitt Romney won those over age 65 by 12
points four years ago. Hillary Clinton leading Donald Trump. If that number holds up, come election day, she will win the presidency.
Let's flip over to the map that matters most. I'll show you what I meant by that. Hillary Clinton leading, as I said, in the Midwest. That is
Donald Trump's most viable path to the presidency, she has him blocked right now. Hillary Clinton leading out West, again, a big influence for
California, but Nevada, Arizona and Utah are still in play. Hillary Clinton doing very well out in the Mountain West and the West an area
Donald Trump needs to do better if he's going to get the White House. Then among older voters, Florida not the only state, but if Hillary Clinton is
running ahead among voters over 65, while that makes Florida look a lot better.
QUEST: Now Greg Homan is a local citrus grower, and owner of the Citrus Tower. That is a landmark in this part of the country. It used to be the
landmark before the interstate came along.
GREG HOMAN, CITRUS GROWER: Yes, it did. It was built in the 50s to showcase the citrus industry.
QUEST: And you own many of these orange groves?
HOMAN: The family does, yes.
QUEST: Yes, so, tell me Greg, what is it you want? Because I think it's fair to say you are more of the right persuasion, on the right wing of
HOMAN: What do I want as far as the election?
HOMAN: Well, I'm really concerned for America, because it just seems like the government is encouraging more and more people to become dependent on
the government, and for us entrepreneurs who are generally independent, that goes against what we're doing.
QUEST: Does that mean, for example, that you are leaning more towards Donald Trump?
HOMAN: Well, I'm meaning against Hillary Clinton.
QUEST: So, again a similar story to the one we heard down -- sorry, up in Tallahassee. It's an anti-Clinton, but it turned into a pro-Trump vote.
HOMAN: Yes, it's not even so much an anti-Clinton, it's anti-government. We're just getting tired of being discouraged. It seems like for an
entrepreneur all levels of government just punish us for trying to get ahead. So, the less government the better.
QUEST: The less government the better, but point to me where your oranges go. Your groves go up towards that way, don't they? But you've got some
real problems, haven't you?
[16:10:00] HOMAN: We do. We've bacteria called green that is pretty much threatening to wipe out the citrus industry.
QUEST: So surely you're looking for more government help in dealing with that problem?
HOMAN: Yes. We're -- having the freedom, we could probably handle it, but we don't have a lot of the freedoms we need to fix the problem. So, we
need the help from the government. You're right.
QUEST: Right, so, when you say you want less government, you want less taxation. Maybe people will say, well, what does that mean in reality?
For a country, the size of the United States? How do you have less government? I mean why do you see the government as such a burden on you?
HOMAN: Well, every time you turn around, and again I'm talking all levels of government. Local, state, there's more regulations and more taxes and
it seems like every time you turn around to try and get ahead, they want more out of you. For independent people that want to try to make it, it's
really discouraging. Beginning to feel like a fool for trying to work so hard. Just become a taker.
QUEST: Are you one of those people that feels to some extent, both sides have taken advantage of the electorate over many years?
HOMAN: Yes, they've taken advantage of the fact that people believe the lies. The lying, lying, just tired of all the lying, and people believe
it. So, they just keep on telling them.
QUEST: Greg, when all is said and done, you're all Americans, how difficult will be for the country to come back together again as one?
HOMAN: Well, you know, the big picture is that God is in control. And if he is determined to bring us to our knees now, then it really doesn't make
any difference. I think that is probably the direction that we're headed in. We just so ignored God for so long it's going to get ugly. I think
that is the direction we're headed.
QUEST: Sir, honored to have had you on the program tonight. Thank you very much indeed. Greg Homan joining me. And talking the big issues.
Today's opposition, finally a decision. We're going to discuss the pros and cons of the decision to expand London's Heathrow Airport. Apparently,
it will get its third runway. It is QUEST MEANS BUSINESS.
QUEST: I've always said that I'll never see a plane take off from the third runway at Heathrow. It's been delayed for many decades. People hate
the idea. And of course, it possibly will never actually happen. But the British Government has today said, their preference is for a third runway
at London's Heathrow Airport.
[16:15:00] For business it's a big boost after the Brexit vote. The U.K. government says it will create $75 billion worth for the economy over six
decades. Now Heathrow is running at 99 percent capacity. The third runway will nearly double to 140 million passengers by 2050. The other
alternative was a second runway at Gatwick, and there was a third runway known as an extension to the northern one as the Heathrow hub.
But do not book your tickets yet. Firstly, entire village, Sipson, has to disappear. Secondly, there are massive environmental concerns that the
third runway will allow Heathrow to meet European limits. And local members of parliament and the London mayor candidates, Zach Goldsmith has
resigning. And it will trigger an election to replace him, and bearing in mind, the government already has a very small majority. London Mayor,
Sadiq Khan, has criticized the decision as wrong for London and for Britain. And the foreign secretary, Boris Johnson has been openly
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
BORIS JOHNSON, BRITISH FOREIGN SECRETARY: I do think that building a third runway, slap bang in the middle of the Western suburbs, in the greatest
city on earth, is not the right thing to do. No other world city would dream of subjecting so many hundreds of thousands of people to more noise
pollution in the way that a third runway would.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
QUEST: Paula in New York has been speaking to the chief executive of Heathrow. Paula, I'm imagining that the CEO is delighted that at least a
decision has been made.
PAULA NEWTON, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Yes, and he says both you, and of course, Boris Johnson, who agrees that the runway is undeliverable. He saying that
look, Richard Quest, you will see this in your lifetime. John Holland-Kaye says that the third runway is vital if Britain is to be successful outside
of the EU. Remember, all linked to Brexit. And I asked him earlier whether he was truly confident that the project would be delivered on time.
JOHN HOLLAND KAYE, CEO, HEATHROW AIRPORT: We can be confident that a third runway at Heathrow will be built. And that it will be built by 2025. Why
am I so confidence? While the Prime Minister has made it clear that she wants to see the new runway built and has got the support from her cabinet
subcommittee. From the airports commission, but also from politicians from every major party in every regional nation of the UK. From businesses,
large and small, the length and breadth of the country, from unions, even from local people. There's a huge consensus behind making this happen
And secondly, the government has chosen a planning consent process, which can be delivered to a tight timetable, while making sure that everyone has
a chance to have their say. And this process called the development consent order process has a huge, very high success rate. Ninety-five
percent of plans that go through this system get improved by the consultation and end up with a successful outcome. So, we can be very
confident that in 2025 we will have the expanded Heathrow that Britain so vitally need to make sure of its success in a post-Brexit world.
NEWTON: And why does it need to be a success in a post-Brexit world? I mean, do you think Brexit has made it all the more urgent and why? Why a
third runway? They could have had another airport somewhere else, let alone the expansion at Gatwick.
KAYE: Well, Heathrow expansion was vital anyway, but particularly urgent in a post-Brexit world. Why? Because we are the main trading port for the
UK with all of the emerging markets of the world. And it's clear that only Heathrow can get Britain to all of those growing markets that we need to be
trading with if we are to be successful outside of the EU.
Just to give you an example, maybe 30 percent of all of the exports that go outside of the EU from the U.K. come through Heathrow. Just .2 percent go
through Gatwick. That's because Heathrow is a real trading port and Gatwick is a point to point airport. That's one of the reasons why the
government has chosen Heathrow as the right solution to keep Britain as one of the world's great trading nations.
NEWTON: You know, Richard, and I wanted to ask you about this all day. I mean, given what he just said, I can think of no one else who's really seen
the way these airport hubs have developed in the last couple decades, what does it mean to Heathrow? Is he right? That without this third runway you
can forget about it. They will be taken over by all the other transport hubs in the world.
QUEST: Well, up to a point he's right. But let's remember that Frankfurt has problems with noise and with a curfew. Paris has put another couple of
runways in, but it also has problems. They can't expand Amsterdam any further. So, this idea that somehow just, you know if Heathrow don't get
their own way they will be overtaken by other European airports, it holds a certain amount of water. But those other airports have their own issues.
[16:20:00] The real ones who benefit, of course, are the Gulf carriers. Dubai, Abu Dhabi, and Doha, where they can just put up a terminal, build a
new runway as they will. I think though that Heathrow to remain viable in a non-Brexit world -- or the Brexit world I should say -- that it was
pretty essential for that third runway.
NEWTON: Now, Chris Grayling, who is a transport secretary, absolutely agrees with you. And more than that, Richard, because he's put this on the
line. He's put this right out there. He said to me earlier, look, this is politically expedient. We do need to have the third runway in order for
Brexit to be successful. But again, Richard, to your point about whether or not you will see that third runway in your lifetime, he says absolutely
you will. Take a listen.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
CHRIS GRAYLING, UK TRANSPORTATION SECRETARY, LONDON: I'm very confident that we'll deliver that according to the time tables set up by our airports
commission. We have now got a clearly defined legal process to go through. It does involve public concentration, but to a strict timeframe. We will
reach a statement of national policy on this airport in an initial 12-month period. Then it's a matter of the airports go on with a detailed design,
and a detailed planning, and then start work as soon as they can.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
NEWTON: That means shovels in the ground in about five years and he saying, look, we will get through this consultation process and we will get
through the courts, too.
QUEST: I think he is deceiving himself if he thinks five years. Thank you, Paula.
Vince Cable, is a former British business secretary and a vocal critic of the expansion of Heathrow. He joins us now from London. Dr. Cable, as we
look at this, I know you don't agree with the expansion of Heathrow, but at least a decision has been made.
VINCE CABLE, FORMER BRITISH BUSINESS SECRETARY: Well, sort of, yes. I mean it isn't actually a final decision. The matter is to be decided in
Parliament in a years' time. Anything can happen by then. There will be major legal challenge by local authorities, including conservative local
authorities who are otherwise aligned with the government. Contrary to what the chief executive of the airport said, there is no consensus about
this. There is a very bitter division. Not just on the environmental and noise grounds but serious questioning of the economic basis of the
QUEST: So, to Paula's question though, if this airport does not get a third runway, then the inevitable transfer of traffic to other European
hubs takes place, doesn't it?
CABLE: Well, I think you've answered that point yourself already. That many of those European hub airports are already running into serious noise
and environmental constraints themselves. And we cannot possibly compete with Dubai. I mean, Dubai is an airport with a country attached to it in
the middle of the desert, which can fly 24 hours a day. It's in a totally different league.
And I actually question whether the existence of a hub airport of that scale is something that is necessary or desirable for the U.K. We have a
lot of very good provincial airports, which have been built up. Manchester's have massive investment. Birmingham is underutilized. We
have two airports around London that are actually underutilized. If the capacity could be better distributed and we can get better public transport
links, then the opportunity to service the big emerging markets remains, but on a different basis.
QUEST: For as long as I have been an aviation correspondent, the question over the third runway pretty much has been there. You know as well as I
do, Dr. Cable, there is enough reports to sink a ship on this, and yet still there is no agreement on the economic benefit that would bring
Britain from this extra runway. Don't you find that troubling?
CABLE: It is troubling, but it is also about democracy. You know we do have very major interests here. The number of people who are potentially
adversely affected in London, were talking about 1 million people, we're not talking about a few thousand. As the foreign secretary, Boris Johnson,
said, this is a unique case of a big international airport being built in a city. This is La Guardia, it's not Kennedy. So, there is bitter division
involving very large numbers of people here.
QUEST: Finally, I am 54, Dr. Cable, if you were a betting man, do you think I will ever take off from the third runway of Heathrow?
CABLE: I think there are series doubts. I really do. I mean, the challenges will be major. Nobody has answered the questions about the
funding. Who's going to pay for the infrastructure?
[16:25:00] Who is going to pay for the airport? Because the owners will very probably jack up fares. It's one of the warning of the hub airport
operator, British Airways, amongst others. There will be major league challenge. There will be environmental challenge. I would not put my
money on this airport expansion happening.
QUEST: Dr. Cable, thank you for joining us. Good to have you on the program, sir.
CABLE: Thank you.
QUEST: Always lovely to see you in such good health. Thank you.
Now, it was a mixed day for the European markets. Take a look at the indices. Most of them closed down, but the FTSE did gain nearly half a
percentage point. International companies listed there were boosted by a sharp fall, or a continuing sharp fall in the pound. So, London beat out
On to the U.S. markets where stocks were lower. 3M, which makes amongst other things and perhaps most famously the Post-it note, was a drag on the
Dow after it trimmed full-year earnings forecast. And there is some consumer confidence which slipped in October. Twitter also fell. Now
Twitter is telling CNNMoney that it is not commenting on a Bloomberg report of possible 300 job losses. So far a flurry of rumors about the potential
buyer has not produced any potential merger partner.
So, I'm in the wonderful citrus groves of Florida. That is one way of getting around, the tractor, which of course is probably the most useful
way. I have the throaty roar that's taken me up and down the country of Florida. Assuming I can stay on the bonnet. Will be back with more. The
agricultural issues in Florida after the break. It is QUEST MEANS BUSINESS in the Sunshine State.
QUEST: Hello, I'm Richard Quest in Florida. There's more QUEST means business in just a moment from the Sunshine State. We're in Claremont in
the citrus groves of the state. Before we have more from Florida, Paula Newton is in New York.
NEWTON: Indeed, I am and these are the top headlines we're following this hour.
ISIS has claimed responsibility for a deadly attack in Southwest Pakistan. Officials say militants broke into a police training academy overnight. As
cadets slept they killed at least 61 people. Dozens of others are wounded. Authorities initially blamed another group.
As: addition forces close in on Mosul, Iraq, the UN says it's getting preliminary reports of newly discovered atrocities by ISIS against
civilians. Now the High Commissioner for Human Rights says 15 were reportedly killed and thrown in a river in a village south of the city.
Other civilians are being used as human shields.
[16:30:06] America Sunshine State is a battleground today as we're hearing from Richard. Both Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump appear at rallies
across Florida. The state is considered a must win for Trump, but Clinton right now is holding a narrow lead there. And a new CNN/ORC nationwide
poll just-released shows almost 70 percent of the voters expect Clinton to win this election.
Four people were killed when a ride malfunctioned at Australia's largest theme park, Dream World. Two victims were ejected and another two were
trapped inside. The CNN affiliate 7 news reports the ride has had problems in the past. The park is now closed and an investigation is under way.
Brazilian football legend, Carlos Alberto has died. Alberto scored one of the most memorable goals in world cup history in the final against Italy in
1970. He died of a heart attack in his home. Carlos Alberto was 72 years old.
We're back with American Quest. We're live in Florida, in Claremont, Florida in the center of the state. Florida is known mostly worldwide for
its beaches and theme parks and also for its orange juice. It has a $4 billion agriculture industry. Orange business have been hit by droughts,
by hurricanes, and by a very vicious citrus disease. So, here we are on the farm about 40 miles or so from Orlando. And it was time to take a walk
through those orange groves.
QUEST (voice-over): The orange groves at Uncle Matt's farm stretch as far as the eye can see. Acres of green. They don't look like ripe oranges
yet. It will be some weeks before they can be picked. But Ben is ready and he has been at the job for years.
QUEST (on camera) Where did this organic push come from for Uncle Matt's? Where did it come from?
BENNY MCLEAN, PRODUCTION MANAGER, UNCLE MATT'S ORGANIC: Well --
QUEST: You don't just wake up and say I'm going to start an organic fruit company.
MCLEAN: Well, Matt, my youngest son, the company is actually named Uncle Matt from him. Rallied the whole family and he asked my dad -- we all
called him Pappy -- he said, "Pappy, can we grow organic citrus in central Florida?" You know and my dad kind of bowed his nay up at Matt and he just
said, "Matt, what you think we did for hundred 50 years? Nobody ever told us it was organic. That's the way we used to grow it."
QUEST: Was it a bit like having to learning to walk again?
MCLEAN: A little tougher than that. No. It is a big challenge.
QUEST: Did you have to be convinced first of all?
MCLEAN: Well, when my dad told me it could be done, that's all I needed.
QUEST: Yes, did you have to be convinced that you wanted to do it?
MCLEAN: Oh, yes. You know, if you're in agriculture, you love a challenge.
QUEST (voice-over): Whether you're an organic farmer or a conventional grower, the big problem remains greening. It's a disease that affects the
orange trees themselves. And it seems no one is immune.
MCLEAN: You see the deficiency showing in the leaf?
QUEST (on camera): Yes.
MCLEAN: OK, that's typical of greening. That's what you see.
QUEST: It's effecting the immune system of the tree, but it's not the fruit?
MCLEAN: Well, it does, but it's in a small way. OK?
QUEST: But the fruit can still be picked --
MCLEAN: Oh, yes. You can still pick it and eat it.
QUEST: It's very serious?
MCLEAN: It's very serious. Richard, it can literally wipe this industry out. Ok. Not just because we're organic, the conventional boys have the
QUEST: What for you is the biggest issue in this general election?
MCLEAN: In this general election, Richard, I'm going to put it to you this way. Regardless of who wins, I don't think they're going to solve
greening. And my biggest problem right now in the citrus industry is we don't have a cure for greening.
QUEST: How are you going to explain this election to your 12 grandchildren?
MCLEAN: But it's going to be written in a history book. Right? Because I've never experienced anything like this. We're all going to learn as we
go. You learn to adjust, Richard. Whether you like it or not.
QUEST: So, that's one member of the family. Matt McLean is with us. He is the Matt in Uncle Matt's Organic. You've really diversified. This is
one of your cold pressed lemon water.
[16:35:00] It's got no calories, no fats, no sodium, no carbohydrates, no protein, no sugars. What has it got?
MATT MCLEAN, OWNER, UNCLE MATT'S ORGANIC: So, it has powerful patented probiotics. It has fresh squeezed, unpasteurized lemon juice.
QUEST: We are in one of the most conservative places in Florida, aren't we?
QUEST: What is it conservatives like you, want from whoever is elected.
MCLEAN: You know, somebody that can inspire us. Be a leader that we want to follow. Somebody that can reach across the aisle and that we can feel
QUEST: When you look at the two candidates, are you leaning one way or the other? Is there somebody or is it too soon or too late?
MCLEAN: You know, at this point I would say as a family, I think we have somebody that we favor. But it's not somebody that we believe would be the
best choice out there. We're left with two candidates primarily, that I don't know if America is real happy with.
QUEST: Even the conservatives are not terribly happy with Donald Trump, but he is advancing an agenda that conservatives can feel marginally more
MCLEAN: Well, yes, in some respects I could say that.
QUEST: As an industry, what are you looking for? Because you're facing an existential crisis with these trees over there.
MCLEAN: We are looking for a solution for citrus greening disease. As organic farmers were really trying to find organic methods, holistic
sustainable methods that will cure these trees. The bacteria that's rid them, that's taken over inside, the phloem. And so can we systemically
find something to heal that tree.
QUEST: Right. But as we heard earlier from Greg, he is looking for less government, not more government. Now I know that you don't particularly
like lots of government, do you?
MCLEAN: Does any small business owner like a lot of government?
QUEST: Do you feel a need to have less government? Do you feel the weight of government?
MCLEAN: You know, here's what I say. I don't mind paying taxing. It's a patriotic duty and I'm very happy to pay taxes. What I want them to do is
be efficient with my money. No different than I have to be efficient as a business owner. So, don't squander it. Just be efficient with my dollar
and make it go a long way for whatever the person whose elected president or in charge, or the people decide to do.
QUEST: Good to see you, sir. Thank you for coming on and talking to us.
MCLEAN: Drink your OJ.
QUEST: Believe me, I've got more OJ. I've got more grape fruit juice, and I've got more lemon water than I could imagine. But of course, what I
haven't got is a bathroom anywhere nearby. Well, thank you, we'll be back with you in a minute. Right, thank you.
Almost a quarter of Florida's population is Latino. A CNN/ORC poll shows nonwhite voters nationwide prefer Hillary Clinton by a wide 50-point
margin. It's about 72 percent to some 20 percent. Hector Sanchez is the executive director, for the Labor Council for Latin American Advancement.
He joins me now from Washington.
Here in the fields Hector, I keep hearing people talking about the need for labor, but a need for immigration reform. That is the difficulty here,
isn't it? Because everybody recognizes they need a workforce to tend the trees. It's just how you executed that principle.
HECTOR SANCHEZ, EXECUTIVE DIR., LABOR COUNCIL FOR LATIN AMERICAN ADVANCEMENT: Thank you for the invitation, Richard. And thanks for
bringing your program to Florida. Such an important state for the nation. Particularly not only because of the election this year, but the topic you
are covering today. The importance of this state feeding the nation. And we need to bring attention to the issue of farm workers in Florida, because
that for us is a very serious concern. Farmworkers in Florida suffer from some of the most serious exploitation in the nation. Some of the highest
levels of death in work in the nation. A very serious problem with pesticide exposure.
We have a case with Carlito's was known in the nation. A little kid that was born without arms and without legs, because of the serious exposure to
pesticides of their parents. We have problems of sexual harassment and rape to women working in the fields. We have a lot of labor issues, civil
rights issues and human rights issues. Some of them the exploitation of workers. And that is why it is so important to make sure --
QUEST: Sorry, because of the satellite lag. In that environment, Hector, surely immigration reform is very much in the interest of your industry,
and whilst perhaps Donald Trump's suggestions seem apoplectic, at the end of the day he is putting forward an immigration reform program.
SANCHEZ: No question about that. There are entire sectors in the nation, Richard, that's are totally dependable of immigrant workers, and
agriculture is one of them.
[16:40:00] If we know that these workers are needed. If we know they are feeding us. If we know that these workers are the ones that are going to
help the economy grow. We need to make sure that create a path that includes them and make sure we respect the human, labor, and civil rights.
What we're doing now is unacceptable. We're just exploiting the workers. We throw them away when we don't want them. They raise their voices, they
organize. And we don't support them. It is system that doesn't work for workers.
QUEST: But to put the Republican nominee's point of view, surely it would work better if you have the wall, if you got legal workers, if you got
those workers here who do not have to live in the shadows, then you will have a better regulated work force. Surely that is the way forward?
SANCHEZ: We need to create a system to legalization of all these workers. Right now, there is not a line, so these workers can wait -- we know we
need these workers. Especially in agriculture is the best examples we can use. The candidate that you mention says we need to build a wall. In the
history of this nation we have never had so much security and investment in the border.
We're doing the work. We never had more deportations in the history of this nation. So, this enforcement is happening. We need to turn this
conversation to the inclusion of workers that makes sense for the economy, especially over there in Florida. A fantastic case to exemplify why the
farm workers are so important for the nation and for the economy.
QUEST: We're grateful that you came with your point of view, thank you.
SANCHEZ: Thank you for the invitation.
NEWTON: Thank you, Richard. While he squeezes the citrus, we're taking a bite out of the apple. Apple's bottom line, its earnings are out. We'll
see if their flagship hardware, the iPhone 7, did the business.
NEWTON: And some breaking news here after the bell. Apple's annual sales fall for the first time since 2001, and Alison Kosik has been crunching
those Apple numbers, you know were expecting that this little gadget here, the iPhone 7 would have really given Apple the boost it needed.
ALISON KOSIK, CNN MONEY CORRESPONDENT: It wasn't expected to even make a dent In Apple's earnings because the iPhone 7 went on sale just two weeks
before earnings season closed. But what is interesting is you see Tim Cook putting a nice positive spin on it saying we could not be more excited
about the customer response to the iPhone 7. In that way, yes, you are a 100 percent right.
He seems to be basing it on the iPhone 7, which once again wasn't on sale too much. But apple did beat at $1.67 per share versus $1.66 expected.
[16:45:00] For the quarter Apple is reporting it had better than expected iPhone sales at 45.5 units. So, you are seeing Tim Cook put a positive
spin on this, and they will have another attempt for a positive spin on its products this Thursday.
There is a big Mac event, Apple expected to at its hello again event, expected to unveil
a big makeover of its desk tops and laptops as well.
NEWTON: This is a big fork in the road. We are mixing all of our metaphors here.
But where do they go next. Because while we have an issue with Samsung, and that was expected to give Apple a boost, many people are look, the
watch was a flop, what the heck is going on with Apple TV, and then there is the car, what is happening with that? So, the point is what is they're
next big thing?
KOSIK: That's what all investors are asking. They want to see Apple get its mojo back. And many investors say, look, it's not just sort of
reinventing the iPhone every year that is really going to give Apple that boost that investors are looking for. You're seeing Apple at this point
kind of plod along and maybe, who knows at the product launch on Thursday, maybe some other new products are there. One thing Apple is focusing on
are services. That bringing in revenue. That seems to be one of the fastest streams for revenue. Apple Care, Apple Music, Apple Pay, iTunes,
those kinds of services are what services is what is going on.
NEWTON: Given what is going they should have called it Apple Bank instead of Apple Pay, I think they would have gotten lots of traction with that.
Alison Kosik, thank you so much.
QUEST: From apples to oranges literally, here in Florida there is a major crisis. And I don't use that word lightly facing citrus growers. The
citrus greening disease has devastated the orange harvest for five seasons. It has no cure. The orange harvest is down 14 percent this year. The
scientists are stumped.
Ben McLean is the production manager here at Uncle Matts Organic. Come on, we heard crisis before, is it really that bad?
BEN MCLEAN, PRODUCTION MANAGER, UNCLE MATT'S ORGANIC: Yes, it is. The USDA just gave us the estimate that we would harvest only 70 million boxes,
in the upcoming crop, in 2009 we harvested a 166 million, in 2002 we harvested over 240 million.
QUEST: What is wrong with the greening? The fruit can still be eaten?
MCLEAN: Yes, it is still edible. The internal quality goes down slightly. It gives you symptomatic fruit that either drops early prior to harvest or
it's off flavor, or a little small, and then also there is just a failure to thrive because of this internal infection.
QUEST: So, if we walk over to these trees over here, come join me over here, can we tell if these trees are infected?
MCLEAN: Yes, you can, what you will see here is you will see basically this more a healthy dark green big leaf like here, and these leaves here
that are off color, they have a blotchy mottle, a slight hint of micro nutrient deficiencies in here. This notching on the leaf which shows
feeding. So, that is what you will get --
QUEST: Are you expecting in the fullness of time all of these trees will eventually die or just wither away?
MCLEAN: What we're expecting is no, they won't die, but they will actually become more like these to where economically they're just unprofitable.
They cost too much to grow and the harvest is too little.
QUEST: So for a place like here you have to move over and start growing beans, peaches and other crops?
MCLEAN: Yes. Alternative crops will be a big issue for us going forward.
QUEST: But Benny is your father, I think? Come on show me.
BENNY MCLEAN, FATHER OF BEN MCLEAN: This is a navel orange.
QUEST: What can I do with it at this point. It is another month before it is ready to be eaten. Let's come back over here
BENNY MCLEAN: I'm going to, even though it is not mature from a color standpoint, it has already started to develop taste, OK.
QUEST: Let me try it. OK. Look at that juice, I can just try it straight away. Is it good to eat?
BEN MCLEAN: Yes.
QUEST: Will I enjoy an orange? Come up, one of the most surprising things besides the chance to enjoy real oranges straight off of the tree, I really
discovered something I never thought I would ever find in the Sunshine State. Let alone near the oranges.
OK, I admit it, I was expecting many things when I came to Clermont, Florida, this was not one of them.
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QUEST: Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump are facing off in Florida to win the White House. By accident I found a miniature White House and a
presidential hall of fame right here less than ten miles from where I am sitting at the moment. I do not jest, it has wax molds of the presidents
and the most extraordinary miniature White House that is absolutely perfectly put together. In all of its detail along with the various
presidents. Joining me now is the creator of the miniature White House.
JOHN ZWEIFEL, CREATOR, THE MINIATURE WHITE HOUSE: Welcome to the White House.
QUEST: I'm actually sitting on a real --
ZWEIFEL: A White House chair. The President Lyndon did not like these chairs because they're so light. He called them toys.
QUEST: How many times have you been to the White House?
ZWEIFEL: Hundreds and hundreds, sometimes I stayed a week at a time. Starting with the Kennedy administration. I was told now by the White
House to keep working with every president and that if I am asked who is my favorite president, I am supposed to say the one that is there now.
Because I have got to work with the next one and the next one.
QUEST: We will come to the next one and the next one. Why did you decide? And we'll look at the pictures, I was absolutely gob smacked when I
discovered this miniature White House and it is perfect in every detail.
ZWEIFEL: Not only that but it changes with every administration. If you went to the actual White House you would only see five rooms, and we show
45. We want to share the White House -- this is god's country we're in right here. And the White House is so important to all people. And the
patriotism. Why I started this thing was during wartime, I was living in '44, `45, 99 percent of the people were patriotic. And I'm still trying to
get that same patriotism in all the people and say hey, it's your house.
QUEST: You believe that?
QUEST: It's the people's house?
ZWEIFEL: OK, I want you, when you interview the two nominees to say, open up those doors to everybody like we have been able to.
QUEST: Who has been your favorite president, and I don't mean the recent one, go back all the way, all 43, who would you choose? Washington,
Lincoln, Harrison, Roosevelt?
ZWEIFEL: No, no, let's be more recent. Nobody -- this pen was given to me by George H, and he is so patriotic. He sent personal letters, but
Rumsfeld was a great help. The one that worked so hard on it was Ford and Reagan.
QUEST: If you were to choose between Trump and Clinton, but you're not going to choose?
[16:55:00] ZWEIFEL: I'm going to ask a couple questions. And will you make an announcement that after the first months you are going to open up
the White House to everybody, and then free trade, and --
QUEST: Sir, thank you for joining us.
ZWEIFEL: It's your house.
QUEST: It's my house?
ZWEIFEL: Yes, we want you to go home and want to be president.
QUEST: Good to see you, sir.
Thank you very much indeed. We will continue our journey. I am going to try and nip quickly into the car to see if I can actually start this thing
so we can have a real throaty roar. Here we go -- oh!
QUEST: Tonight's Profitable Moment. Look at that, an orange straight from the tree, a Mustang straight from the road. One of the fascinating parts
about American Quest is that we're seeing the real issues. It's not just about equality or economic rights or all the things the politicians have
been talking about.
Here in central Florida it's about oranges dying because of a disease they need help for. We're hearing about the conservative issues. We're hearing
once again about people saying they will vote for Donald Trump because they don't like Hillary Clinton and vice versa. And that is a feeling that
where we are at the moment in the place, the i-4 corridor, the seven counties that go from Tampa in the west to Daytona in the east and across
which the decision and probably the election will be decided. Tomorrow, let's look at the map.
[17:00:00] We started in a Tallahassee. Tomorrow I am heading for Palm Beach and for Miami as we move across Florida. The week ends in Key West.
So, we look forward to you joining us throughout #Floridaquest is where you can join our discussion and our debate on that.
That is QUEST MEANS BUSINESS for tonight. I'm Richard Quest in the orange groves of Florida. Whatever you're up to in the hours ahead, I hope it is
profitable I will see you in Miami tomorrow.