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Final Stretch for the U.S. Election; How One Family Survived ISIS's Reign Near Mosul; French Authorities Move Final Residents of Calais Refugee Camp; South Korean Presidential Scandal; Early Voting in Florida; Chicago Cubs Force World Series Game 7. Aired 3-4a ET

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[03:00:00] ROSEMARY CHURCH, CNN ANCHOR: Closing arguments. Both sides pick up the pace as the U.S. election enters the final stretch with polls showing a much tighter race.

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HILLARY CLINTON, (D) U.S. PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: I am sick and tired of the negative, dark, divisive dangerous vision and behavior of people who support Donald Trump!

DONALD TRUMP, (R) U.S. PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: You can change your vote to Donald Trump. We'll make America great again. OK?

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CHURCH: Escape from ISIS. How one family survived the terror group's reign near Mosul.

And clearing out. French authorities move the final residence of the so-called jungle in Calais. Why critics say it will only worsen the migrant problem.

Hello and welcome to our viewers all across the globe. I'm Rosemary Church, and this is CNN Newsroom.

We are in the final stretch. Less than a week away from the U.S. presidential election. And the race between Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump is tightening.

Trump is gaining ground on Clinton in national polls. CNN's poll of polls has the republican nominee at 42 percent. Just four points behind Clinton. Trump took his campaign to two democratic-leaning states Tuesday, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania. He urged Clinton supporters who have already cast their ballots to switch their votes.

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TRUMP: This is a message for any democratic voter who have already cast their ballots for Hillary Clinton and who are having a bad case of buyer's remorse.

In other words, you want to change your vote. You can change your vote to Donald Trump. We'll make America great again. OK?

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CHURCH: Well, Clinton made stops at three early voting rallies in Florida trying to hang on to her narrowing lead in the polls. The democratic nominee had some strong words for a Trump supporter who interrupted her rally in Fort Lauderdale.

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CLINTON: I love this country. I think we already are great. Now, I think we can be greater.

(CROWD CHEERING)

And you know? I am sick and tired of the negative, dark, divisive, dangerous vision and behavior of people who support Donald Trump.

(CROWD CHEERING)

It is time for us to say no, we are not going backwards; we're going forward into a brighter future.

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CHURCH: And while rallying voters Tuesday, Clinton largely ignored the e-mail scandal that has upended her campaign. Instead, she's blasting her opponent and looking to secure crucial battleground states.

Jeff Zeleny has more now from Fort Lauderdale.

JEFF ZELENY, CNN SENIOR WASHINGTON CORRESPONDENT: Hillary Clinton is heading out west today. She'll be campaigning in Las Vegas and Arizona. Part of the plan to expand the battleground map, particularly Arizona, that red state.

But I can tell you she's focused on blue states more than ever she'd planned to be. She was in Florida all day yesterday campaigning across the state at three rallies. Seldom has she had three campaign rallies in one day.

Of course, Donald Trump often does. But now she knows this race is tighter than she'd ever expected. At a rally in Sanford, Florida she allowed just for a moment the possibility this could not turn out her way.

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CLINTON: I want to build on the progress that President Obama has made!

(CROWD CHEERING) So, think how you'll feel if there was something you could have done but didn't on November the 9th, if this, if this doesn't work. Personally, I can't imagine.

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ZELENY: Of course, Secretary Clinton is using that as a rallying cry, trying to get her voters to the polls through early voting or at the polls next Tuesday on Election Day.

The Clinton campaign now is trying to fortify that blue wall. They're advertising now in states they had not planned to. Blue states like Colorado, Michigan, Wisconsin, Virginia. Trying to fortify that as Donald Trump tries to puncture that.

[03:04:57] Now, the next six days of this campaign will be so interesting. The Clinton campaign still trying to assess the fallout from the e-mail controversy. She's trying to turn Arizona blue.

But then she'll be heading back to the East Coast, hitting some of those blue states again like Pennsylvania and Michigan and Detroit there on Friday.

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JIM ACOSTA, CNN SENIOR WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT: Donald Trump is showing off a side that we rarely see out on the campaign trail, message discipline. At a rally here in Wisconsin Trump stayed on the attack on Hillary Clinton's e-mail saga saying she only has herself to blame.

He also went after her campaign manager, John Podesta, whose e-mails were hacked and released by WikiLeaks. Here's what he had to say at this rally in Wisconsin.

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TRUMP: In a newly released e-mail John Podesta's been caught saying we have to dump all of those e-mails. Can you believe this? That's WikiLeaks.

And he also said -- to me, this made a big -- a big statement. John Podesta -- I tell you what, if he worked for me, I would fire him so fast. He is such a nasty guy. He would -- I would fire him. Like "The Apprentice." John, you're fired.

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ACOSTA: And Trump is reminding people here in Wisconsin and a handful of other states that they can actually change their vote if they cast an earlier absentee ballot. But it's an option that's rarely ever used by voters.

CHURCH: Jim Acosta reporting there.

Well, the race may be tightening but it's still a numbers game and Trump has a long road ahead to overtake Clinton.

CNN political director David Chalian looks at what it would take to reach the magic 270 at this stage of the game.

DAVID CHALIAN, CNN POLITICAL DIRECTOR: Donald Trump has been spending some time in some blue states of late like Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania. This is all part of Hillary Clinton's blue wall of defense. We've got some recent poll numbers that show us in some states that wall of defense is actually holding for her.

Take a look at New Hampshire. There's a new poll out there shows a seven-point lead for Hillary Clinton. Forty six percent to 39 percent. Let's go down to Virginia. Another state that has been leaning Hillary Clinton's direction. And that firewall seems to be holding there, 48 percent to 42 percent in that recent poll.

And in fact, even in battleground North Carolina, a true tossup state, we have a new CNN poll of polls, five polls out of North Carolina since the last debate averaged together, 46 percent to 42 percent. A four-point lead in a critical battleground state.

And let me show you why it's so important that this blue wall holds for Hillary Clinton. Here's our electoral map. All the yellow states are the true tossup battleground states.

And remember, if we were to give Donald Trump each one of them, Nevada, Utah, Arizona, Florida, North Carolina, Ohio, he's still short of the 270 electoral votes he needs to be president. That's why we see him in blue states. He needs to dig into some of Hillary Clinton's turf.

And that is why we see the Clinton campaign now fortifying states like Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Colorado. They're going up with advertising dollars in states that they had never planned to advertise in because they're trying to fortify that blue wall of defense to keep him shy of 270 electoral votes.

CHURCH: Our next guest doesn't look at the polls or the Electoral College, but he's accurately predicted the winner of the presidential election every single time since 1984.

Allan Lichtman is a presidential historian and a distinguished professor at American University in Washington. And this past weekend you said it was going to be Donald Trump breaking out the champagne a week from today.

And of course, it is just a matter of days ago that Donald Trump did not have an obvious path to victory. Now he does. So it could go either way. Why are you so convinced that Trump is the one who's going to win this? Why do you say that?

ALLAN LICHTMAN, HISTORIAN: Well, I'm not convinced as I usually am. I've been doing this, as you mentioned, for over 30 years and I've never before issued a qualification. So there's the way it works.

I have 13 key factors developed by looking at every American presidential election from 1860 to 1980. I developed it in '81. And the key is basically gauged the strength and performance of the party holding the White House, the democrats.

And if six or more of the keys go against that party, they are predicted losers. And right now very, very narrowly by the skin of the teeth there are six keys out against the incumbent democrats. So they are predicted losers. But for the first time ever I have a big qualification.

CHURCH: So why are you not as confident at this time?

LICHTMAN: Because I don't look at a crystal ball. My predictions are based on historical patterns. And in Donald Trump we may well have a history-shattering candidate.

[03:10:05] The one republican in what should be a change election that could snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. This is a candidate like we've never seen.

Big question, though. Two huge questions. Is our democracy in America about to fundamentally change? And it could change in two ways.

Number one, we could see the legitimacy of our democracy being undermined, that neither side is willing to accept as we have for over 200 years a peaceful and graceful transfer of power.

And we've also seen with Donald Trump him bringing out a lot of the worst impulses, xenophobia, anti-Semitism, racism. We've never seen a presidential candidate of a major party cheered by the Ku Klux Klan and the white supremacists. And we've just seen that recently in a robo call from a Trump supporter who's a white supremacist.

Secondly, the Russians are quite blatantly and openly interfering in our election. Our intelligence has confirmed that. British intelligence has confirmed that. Is this a new pattern? They seem to be doing it with impunity.

And quite clearly, to favor Donald Trump. The score is 50,000 democratic documents released zero republican documents. You don't have to be a Sherlock Holmes to figure out whose side they're on.

CHURCH: Right. So, you're predicting that Donald Trump will win but you don't sound very happy about that prediction at all.

LICHTMAN: I'm not very happy about it because I do think Trump really threatens to divide the country. He doesn't have the experience to be commander in chief. He's very thick skinned.

And I'm a professor. I care about knowledge and logic. Facts and information. All things Donald Trump seems to completely disregard.

CHURCH: Yes. Many twists and turns. You don't use the polls. You don't use the Electoral College.

LICHTMAN: No. CHURCH: Six days to go. And you, Allan Lichtman, you are predicting

Donald Trump will win. We shall find out in just a matter of days. Many thanks to you, sir.

LICHTMAN: Thank you, Rosemary.

CHURCH: Well, sand storms near Mosul are making it harder for Iraqi troops trying to enter the city from the eastern side. They have taken control of the last village outside Mosul and are clearing explosives left behind by ISIS before moving in.

Troops are squeezing ISIS from different directions. The Norwegian Refugee Council warns more than one million civilians are in grave danger as the fighting intensifies in the days ahead.

In the meantime, Turkey is moving tanks and bulldozers to cities near the Iraqi border. It's the closest point to Mosul.

CNN's Ian Lee joins us now live from Istanbul, Turkey. Ian, Iraqi troops are now on the eastern outskirts of Mosul preparing to take that city back from ISIS. What is the latest that you're learning on that offensive?

IAN LEE, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Well, that's right, Rosemary. They're knocking on Mosul's eastern door preparing to enter it. But it has been a slow go because of those sand storms obscuring the movements.

Also, ISIS is able to move and obscure their own movements in that -- under the cover of the sand. But we've seen over the past roughly two weeks the Iraqi army make good ground in going toward Mosul and that's mainly because they've been fighting out in the open.

There have been cities that they've been going into and taking those and that has slowed them down. But when they are fighting out in the open they have the benefit of air power, really able to help pinpoint the locations of ISIS.

But once they start moving into the city, that's where it gets a lot more complicated. ISIS has had two years to build up defenses. They have booby traps. They have roadside bombs. They have trenches. They have houses they are occupying. They also have human shields that they have -- that they're waiting for the Iraqi troops to move in.

In the meantime, you have a mountain chain that runs on the southeastern part of Mosul, on the other side of it you have these popular mobilization units also known as the Hashed al-Shaabi. These are paramilitary Shiite Iranian-backed units that are moving up trying -- a pincher movement, if you will, to back -- to cut off the escape route from Mosul into Syria.

And they're heading toward what it looks like Tal Afar. That is a red line for Turkey. Turkey says they won't allow them to enter because they fear of sectarian clashes.

But right now you have that pincher moving -- movement to the west of Mosul as Iraqi troops are moving in on the east.

CHURCH: And Ian, how long is this battle for Mosul likely to take? And once it is liberated from ISIS, what happens then? What will happen to the people there?

[03:15:04] LEE: Well, what we're hearing from Iraqi commanders is that it still could take months to capture Mosul, to cleanse it of ISIS, and to secure it from all the bombs and IED's that will be left behind.

It will be slow go once they enter the city. It's a very large city. Over two million people before this war began. And so it will be slow. But once they take it, if they are able to take it, which is right now it looks likely that they will, that will be another test for the Iraqi government.

In the past there have been violations. This is a predominantly Sunni city. The Iraqi has -- Iraq has had these paramilitary units, these Shiite move -- military units that have been used before.

Now, we're seeing with Mosul actually going into the city, we're not seeing them used. But there is this question of sectarian conflict. And Turkey has been very aware of that with Tal Afar, also with Mosul.

Initially, Turkey said that they will be part of this operation because Mosul is a Sunni city and they want to prevent sectarian -- a sectarian conflict. That is going to be the real test once this battle is over.

CHURCH: Indeed. And our Ian Lee reporting there. On the battle for Mosul from his vantage point there in Istanbul, Turkey. Just after 10.15 in the morning. Many thanks to you, Ian.

Well, ISIS has been forcing hundreds of families to march toward Mosul as the militants retreat. They've also been using civilians as human shields, as we heard in Ian's report there.

Arwa Damon has the story of one family who escaped.

ARWA DAMON, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: This is the town of Tulul al-Nasir. ISIS is no longer here, but nor are most of its people. As ISIS left, they forced the civilians to go with them. Men, women, children, the elderly as human shields.

Just days before the Iraqi security forces arrived, ISIS fighters went through house to house, demanding that every family leave and make their way towards another larger town called Hamman al-Alil, about 20 kilometers away.

And in this home is one family who managed to escape. Assad, his wife and daughters, all hid in a ditch while around 500 other families were marched or driven away. His wife, Saadia (Ph), says the fighter that came to their door was Syrian.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE (TRANSLATED): They told us you're going to have to walk to Hamman al-Alil. So we knew the road was long. So we took blankets and bread with us.

DAMON: Merriam (Ph) just eight years old...

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CHURCH: South Korean prosecutors are seeking an arrest warrant for a friend of the president. They are investigating allegations that Choi Soon-sil had access to government documents.

[03:25:03] Meanwhile, President Park Geun-hye has named three new cabinet members as she tries to stem the fallout from this political scandal.

And CNN's Paula Hancocks joins me now with the latest from Seoul. So, Paula, this reshuffle was of course designed to restore public confidence, but that doesn't appear to have happened. What will likely happen to the president? What are the ramifications for her at this point?

PAULA HANCOCKS, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, Rosemary, from the critics' point of view, having a cabinet reshuffle is not what is necessary. The anger from several thousand people on the streets over the weekend and also many others who believe this shouldn't have happened is directed toward the president herself.

It's believed according to her critics that she had a lapse in judgment in allowing this unofficial adviser to see classified documents and potentially to be able to influence and peddle influence for personal gain.

These are the charges certainly against Choi Soon-sil. Now, Choi from her point of view, she denies these charges. She has apologized for what she has done but she does deny the charges against her.

We also heard an apology from President Park Geun-hye as well. But even that has its critics. It was 90 seconds long, some saying it didn't go far enough and it simply wasn't long enough. Rosemary?

CHURCH: And you mentioned the woman at the center of this, Choi Soon- sil, what happens next to her?

HANCOCKS: Well, she's still in detention at this point. And it would appear as though she will be for the next few weeks until the prosecutors can build up a case and indict her.

But certainly the prosecutor's office says that they believe that she may actually be a flight risk. They want to keep her in detention. The prosecutor's office also said that they're concerned that she may try and destroy evidence.

So, certainly from their point of view they would like to see her stay in detention so that they can try to build the case against her. They want to find out exactly what was shared, when it was shared and of course...

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[03:30:00] CHURCH: And a warm welcome back to all our viewers across the globe. I'm Rosemary Church. I want to update you now on the main stories we've been following this hour. Iraqi troops are battling ISIS on the eastern edge of Mosul. Forces have now taken control of the last village outside the city. They're clearing explosives left behind by ISIS before entering Mosul. But sandstorms are also making the advance more challenging.

Pope Francis says he believes the Catholic church's ban on female priests will never change. Reports say he made the remarks while flying to Rome after a visit to Sweden. The pope marked the 500th anniversary of the protestant reformation with Lutheran leaders including women.

An aviation expert says new analysis debunks the notion that someone was flying missing Malaysia airlines MH370 when it spiraled into the Indian Ocean. The flight to Beijing vanished in March 2014. Only bits of debris believed to be from the plane have turned up.

The U.S. presidential election is still a few days away, but almost 25 million people have already cast their ballots. CNN's John King breaks down the early voting numbers with Anderson Cooper.

JOHN KING, CNN CHIEF NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Let's look first at just the big numbers. This is becoming much more of a tradition. We expect to get to 40 percent of Americans voting by absentee or early ballot this time. 24.4 million cast so far. That's as of earlier today. So that number's even higher. And about half of those from the big battleground states, the states that will decide the next president of the United States.

You asked who's doing better. Let's pop it up and take a look here. It depends where you're looking. The red states are places republicans are doing better. They include very important states like Florida, like Ohio. Questions about Donald Trump out in the west. In Utah and Arizona, two places where he's had struggles and challenges, the republicans are doing better. If you look at the democrats, they're doing better in North Carolina. Hillary Clinton wins North Carolina. She blocks Donald Trump.

This one's interesting. Florida is a 50-50 state when it comes to voter registration. The republicans have built themselves back up. They lead slightly but the democrats are trying to take away a state with early voting that Donald Trump has led consistently. Colorado, Donald Trump was just there. That has been a big Clinton lead, very important for the democrats, and Nevada, which is a very, very tight race, Clinton has a bit of a lead there.

So, different states, different parties leading, Anderson. Again this is incredibly important. And we count the votes next Tuesday night, but the next several days are actually critical especially for the democrats. They understand they'll probably lose in ballots cast on election day. They need to run up the lead in states that matter between now and Monday.

CHURCH: For more on all of this we are joined by Steve Bousquet. He is the Tampa Bay Bureau chief for the "Tampa Bay Times." Thank you so much for being with us. So, we just saw that early voting data showing North Carolina leaning democrat and Florida leaning republican. We want to focus on Florida of course where you are. Who has been getting out to vote early at this point? Any pattern that you're seeing so far?

STEVE BOUSQUET, TAMPA BAY BUREAU CHIEF FOR THE "TAMPA BAY TIMES": Yes, Rosemary. The republicans are doing a better job than democrats of getting out to vote, but it's very, very close. And as a matter of fact, the republican historical advantage down here with absentee ballot voting or voting by mail has narrowed dramatically.

Republicans still have an edge but it's nowhere near as big as it was when Mitt Romney ran or John McCain. So that's good news for Hillary Clinton. On the other side of the coin, however, black turnout is underwhelming so far and a lot of democrats who've gotten mail ballots haven't returned them yet and they need to return them if the democrats are going to win this state.

CHURCH: Yeah. And you mentioned that. You know, Hillary Clinton does need the African-American vote as well as the millennials and the Hispanic voters critically. She wants those votes. What do they need to do to get those votes?

[03:35:00] BOUSQUET: Well, you know, Hispanics seem energized. I saw a statistic today from a democratic operative that was striking, that is, one half of all Hispanics voting in this election in Florida have never voted before for president or have only voted once. What does that tell you?

That tells you that these are what political professionals call low- propensity voters, who have not been activated and been engaged in politics before but they are engaged by this election. This is a theory. It's conjecture. But it's obvious that these voters are turned off by Donald Trump's immigration rhetoric.

Florida has seen a huge surge in new voters from Puerto Rico. They are overwhelmingly democratic and they're in the Orlando suburbs. And they're voting. And if they're voting in big numbers, that's good news for democrats.

CHURCH: On the other side of the political coin, of course, Donald Trump relying on the non-college-educated white voters. Are they out in force during this early voting period?

BOUSQUET: Yes, they are. You know, Donald Trump is going to be in Florida. He is making three stops in Florida on Wednesday. He's going back to Pensacola, which is a -- you know, it's a military community. It's very conservative. It's on the Alabama border. And that's a place where Trump is really going to do well. But he keeps energizing and re-energizing that -- that -- that white voter base so much, and he's going to need those votes, and he's doing a good job with doing that. There's going to be a very strong republican turnout in this state.

CHURCH: And just very quickly, there are a lot of undecided voters. What are they waiting to hear, do you think?

BOUSQUET: You know, I've covered elections and politics in Florida for a long time. If you say you're undecided at this point a week out, in my judgment, you're probably not voting. I have a hard time understanding that people at this point could be truly on the fence with these two candidates. But there probably are some who are.

And I think that Florida is a state where voters are -- pay a lot of attention to what's in the national and international media. And they're going to break with the candidate who appears to be having the upper hand. We both know that it's very close, it's within the margin of error. Either candidate could win this state.

CHURCH: Interesting. We'll know in six days. Steve Bousquet, thank you so much. Appreciate it.

BOUSQUET: Thanks, Rosemary.

CHURCH: And for the latest on the presidential election head over to cnnpolitics.com. There of course you can fill out an interactive electoral map and make your own predictions. That's all at cnnpolitics.com. Check it out.

Well, pressure is mounting for South African President Jacob Zuma with many people calling for his resignation. Critics say wealthy outsiders have influenced executive decisions. And on Wednesday, opposition groups and the business community plan to march in protest.

CNN's David McKenzie joins us now from Pretoria, South Africa. Now, David, what is happening right now? It seems a little quieter than we saw earlier when you joined us. And talk to us about the likely outcome of this mounting pressure on the South African president.

DAVID MCKENZIE, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Rosemary, here in South Africa, protests are a marathon, not a sprint. So you get these swells of emotion and dancing and singing and then a quiet period as more people stream in. We've seen hundreds, perhaps thousands already moving into the capital Pretoria.

This is people from one of the opposition groups coming into the church square, and really I'm hearing a lot of anger and frustration at South Africa's president, Jacob Zuma.

As you say, he's facing across-the-board criticism from opposition groups like this, from others as they give out posters to people for the impending march that will be coming from here in church square and then moving on to some of the courts where the action is happening today as Jacob Zuma tries desperately, Rosemary, to avoid the release of a report which could show allegations of deep-seated corruption and cronyism in this country.

I haven't seen this level of across-the-board pressure from business, opposition, and civil society against the president where it will all lead, certainly too early to tell. Certainly Jacob Zuma has denied all allegations over the years, and he will sort of stand fast I'm sure, even with this level of public pressure till now.

CHURCH: And David, just talk to us about what all President Zuma is accused of doing and how likely is it that he can withstand this level of pressure.

[03:40:00] MCKENZIE: Well, it's too early to tell, as I say. But people have called Jacob Zuma the Teflon president because he's withstood scandal after scandal. The latest and most important one I think has been this attempt by the National Prosecuting Authority to go and move charges against the respected finance minister.

They have now dropped those charges in a highly embarrassing move. And you're seeing kind of a quick move from civil society and legal experts to push the courts against the president. There's also this report that I described which is a report from the public protector which could look into high levels of corruption here in South Africa at the highest levels.

Jacob Zuma is -- his legal representatives are in court today in Pretoria trying desperately to stop that report from being released. And people out here today behind me across the capital from different groups are saying enough is enough, they want to save South Africa, as they put it, from that corruption that has been endemic in this country according to both oppositions and experts tracking these matters. Rosemary?

CHURCH: Our David McKenzie, right at the center of a protest there calling for President Zuma to go. We will keep a very close eye on this. It's just after 9:41 in the morning there in Pretoria. Many thanks to you.

Well, France is moving hundreds of young migrants out of Calais. Next, where they're going and why two countries are at odds over who should be responsible for them. We'll explain when we come back. Stay with us.

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CHURCH: Hundreds of young migrants who have been living in a camp in Calais, France are being moved. These teens and young children are being taken to temporary centers across the country. Right now, France and the UK disagree on who should care for some of these young people.

Melissa Bell joins us now live from Paris with more on this. Melissa, let's talk about the many children who are being moved from the Calais camp to various parts of France, about 1,500 children and teens, right? What is going to happen to them ultimately and who is looking after them?

[03:45:00] MELISSA BELL, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Well, these are the last remaining inhabitants of the jungle in Calais, of course. Rosemary, they're being bused out from this morning in a process that should last several days to emergency shelters in France. Their fate has yet to be decided and has been the subject over the course of the last couple weeks of some wrangling between London and Paris.

They are all by definition children who want to get to the United Kingdom. This is what brought them to the jungle in the first place. But in their determination to dismantle the jungle, the French authorities really moved ahead with a process that left this question sort of up in the air and the practical result of that, Rosemary, is that 1,500 children have been living in these containers in the middle of what was the jungle.

Essentially a place that's become a sort of rubbish dumb and an open latrine, the most unhygienic conditions, and perhaps most importantly with this huge uncertainty in their own minds about what was going to happen to them.

They will now be taken to these centers in France where they will be decently housed, fed, washed, and looked after and where a decision will be made about their move to the United Kingdom or not. The United Kingdom has taken several hundred unaccompanied minors so far.

They've made clear they will not be taking the full 1,500 that remain but rather deciding on a case-by-case basis once these children have been rehoused by the French about whether or not they are entitled to make it to their final destination, which is of course the United Kingdom.

CHURCH: And Melissa, as you have been speaking to us live there from Paris, we've been looking at these live pictures. A bus there pulling out with some of those children, some of those young children and teens on board there in Calais on their way to the next destination.

We know you've had an opportunity to speak with some of these young people. What are they telling you? They must be so unnerved and so concerned about really not knowing what lies ahead for them.

BELL: It is that uncertainty that is the most troubling when you listen to them. But you are talking about children. 15, 16, 17 very often who have already, Rosemary, been through so much. They've made the long journey often in the case of those within the jungle from Afghanistan or from Eritrea.

So either across that route that took them from Iran to Turkey through eastern Europe and on to the north of France or across Libya, the desert, the Mediterranean, through Italy and up to Calais via the Mediterranean route. Either way, the difficulties that they talk about along the way, the hardships, the sadness, the loneliness, the fear.

When you hear these things from the mouth of a teenager, it is absolutely heartbreaking and it's difficult to believe that they had the courage to go, many of them say I didn't realize it would take that long, I hadn't imagined it would be that difficult, but equally they tell you that they would do it all again if they had to because they are so close to their destination. Many of them have relatives in the United Kingdom and they're the ones who have the best chance probably of making it across the channel. And all of them talk to you of the hopes that they have for their future. This is the one thing that drives them, of course, the hope that one day they'll make it to the United Kingdom where they imagine they can build a better life for themselves.

Right now, they'll be very disappointed that they're being relocated so close to that final goal with still all this uncertainty over their fate, after all these months they've spent on the road, and for many all these months that they've spent living in a jungle.

CHURCH: Yeah. Of course none of us can imagine what these young people are thinking, what they're going through at this time with such an uncertain future ahead of them. Melissa Bell, reporting there live from Paris. It is 8:48 in the morning. Many thanks to you for bringing us up to date on that situation.

We'll take a very short break here, but still to come, some regular Joes are getting a little sympathy these days. Up next, meet the Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump who are not running for U.S. president.

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CHURCH: Well, the lovable losers, the Chicago Cubs are now just win away from being losers no more. With their backs against the wall, the cubs hammered the Cleveland Indians 9-3 in game 6 of the world series on Tuesday night. That means we'll see a decisive winner-take-all game 7 in Cleveland on Wednesday night.

The cubs wasted no time in this one, putting up three runs in the first inning and a grand slam in the third. The Indians are going for their first title since 1948. For the cubs, they've gone 108 years without a championship. How about that?

Well, it is -- it's been impossible to escape any talk of the presidential election, right? Everywhere it seems it's wall-to-wall Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton. Now just imagine you shared their names. Here's Jeanne Moos with that.

JEANNE MOOS, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Will the real Hillary Clinton please stand up?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Hi. My name is Hillary Clinton.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I'm running for president.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: And I'm not running for president.

MOOS: Will the real Donald Trump please rise?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I'm Donald Trump.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I am officially running...

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And I'm not running for president.

MOOS: But they can't run from their names. 20-something Hillary Clinton organizes music festivals.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Copy that.

MOOS: Dr. Donald Trump heads a cancer institute in Virginia.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Can I get your name again?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Donald Trump.

MOOS: Both say there are few perks and some drawbacks to sharing a presidential candidate's name.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Facebook won't let me have my name.

MOOS: You know who has it.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: And so I'm Hill Clinton on Facebook. Facebook, if you're listening, I want my name back.

MOOS: She also says most comments people make when she says her name aren't funny. Dr. Donald Trump has actually met the Donald and tried to get him to go bald for bucks to raise money for cancer research.

But Donald refused to sacrifice his hair, but he did make a generous donation. And in a rare moment of modesty, these words actually escaped the lips of Donald Trump.

[03:55:00] TRUMP: So I day Donald L. Trump which is you is probably more important than Donald J. Trump which is me.

MOOS: But what happens when Dr. Trump calls the Trump International Hotel?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: My name is Donald Trump. I'd like to make a reservation for Saturday night, please.

MOOS: Three seconds of silence is what happens.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: One moment, sir.

MOOS: They were willing to make the reservation after this Donald asked a most un-Trump-like question.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What's your most economical deal?

MOOS: Dr. Trump says he's left of center, voting for Hillary, while this Hillary will vote for the other one. Not Trump.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I'm scared of him.

MOOS: This Hillary may never be president. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: But can the other Hillary Clinton do this?

MOOS: We think not. Except maybe on "SNL." Jeanne Moos, CNN, New York.

CHURCH: It's possible. Seems like it's a curse for both of them, right? Before we go, baby turtles, lots of them over the weekend. Environmental authorities in Peru released some 17,000 of these little guys back into the wild. The yellow spotted Amazon river turtles are considered a vulnerable species. So volunteers and park workers are trying to bump up their numbers.

By mid-November, they'll release half a million baby turtles into the river basin. And there they go. Gorgeous little things. Thanks for joining us. I'm Rosemary Church. Remember to connect with me anytime on Twitter @rosemarycnn. Love to hear from you. There is more news after the break with our Max Foster in London. You have yourselves a great day.

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