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Game 7 of the World Series; Tight Race in the Home Stretch; Former Soap Opera Star Supports Donald Trump; Trump Supporters Battle Thieves and Vandals. Aired 12-1a ET
Aired November 03, 2016 - 00:00 ET
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[00:00:12] JOHN VAUSE, CNN ANCHOR: This is CNN NEWSROOM live from Los Angeles. Ahead this hour --
ISHA SESAY, CNN ANCHOR: Quite possibly the most epic game in baseball history: Game 7 of the World Series. The Cubs and the Indians tied after nine innings and now -- now a rain delay. We are live in both cities.
VAUSE: In other news that no one cares about -- the home stretch for Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton. New polls show the race for the White House continues to tighten.
SESAY: And a defiant message from a leader in hiding, Abu Bakr Al Baghdadi urges his militants to followers to fight to the death, predicting an ISIS victory in Mosul.
VAUSE: Hello -- everybody. Great to have you with us. I'm John Vause.
SESAY: And I'm Isha Sesay. Newsroom L.A. starts right now.
VAUSE: The Chicago Cubs and Cleveland Indians have waited a combined 176 years to win a World Series and now things will all have to wait just a little longer as they battle out an epic game seven in the World Series. The teams are all tied up right now in the 10th inning and the game has been stopped for a rain delay.
You can see those live pictures there. Cleveland hit a two-run home run in the eighth to even the score at 6 apiece.
SESAY: It's incredible to think that with all the drama -- with the drama at this stage of the game, tow there is a rain delay. The Indians haven't won a World Series since 1948; the Cubs haven't won it since 1908. Do the math there -- a long, long time.
The Cubs started the game with a leadoff home run -- the first ever in game seven of the World Series.
VAUSE: Ok. I'm told we're still in the ninth, they haven't gotten to the tenth yet but we've got this rain delay.
Let's go now to CNN's Ryan Young. He is in Chicago. But Dan Simon in Cleveland right now.
Ok, Dan -- so tell us exactly where are we at with this game? We know the weather is going to clear in about 15 minutes but it's not looking good.
DAN SIMON, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Yes. Hey John and Isha -- you certainly could not ask for anything more in this game seven of the World Series. We're at the top of the tenth. We've got a rain delay.
Just when you thought Chicago had this game won, up 6-3, Cleveland comes storming back with that incredible home run. You could see all the fans outside of the stadium going crazy. We heard what was going on inside and nobody knows what's going to happen. This is why they call it the Fall Classic. We're certainly getting the game that everybody had hoped for.
SESAY: We certainly are. I mean it is hard to believe that Chicago went from that position to be here right now and fighting to the death -- Dan.
SIMON: Yes, that's absolutely right. You know, what's going to happen now? We don't know how long this rain delay is going take place. It looks like the rain has let up a little bit.
We can hear the fans inside obviously wanting this game to resume. Extra innings, game seven of the World Series it doesn't get more exciting than this. That's for sure.
VAUSE: Ok. Let's go to Chicago now. Ryan Young, standing by there. Oh boy, what a night for Cubs fans. They must be beside themselves right now.
RYAN YOUNG, CNN CORRESPONDENT: You know, unreal. First of all let's start this with we have been here since about 10:00 this morning. The fans have been here with us all the way through it. They've been ready for this. In fact, they have been writing on chalk on the side of the building. They wanted to show their support for this team. They've been waiting for this for quite some time.
And Dan said this was exciting. I will honestly tell you, this is one of the best sporting events we have watched in quite time. But I wouldn't use the word excitement when it comes to Chicago fans. There's a lot of people here who are really hurting. They are really worried about what is going to happen next in this game.
I talked to a guy just a few seconds ago who was just like, please do not let this happen. Do not let my dream get ripped out of my hands just like that. That's the passion that we feel from these fans who've been waiting for so long to experience this moment.
And now right when they thought they had their hands around this championship it feels like it is slipping away just a little bit. Like you said it's tied and, of course, you have that rain delay. This is only making the experience a lot longer.
When you go on Twitter you can see the explosion of fans who have been talking about this game. What a drama. This is no better reality TV than two sporting teams and two cities that want this championship probably badder than anyone else.
SESAY: Ryan -- for our international viewers, just help them understand, for those people watching around the world what this potentially means to Chicago. Give them some context here.
YOUNG: I think that's an excellent question. I mean we talked to several people today who started crying on TV with us. I had one young man talk about the idea that when they buried his father they put his last two tickets in his pocket and put his Cubs hat on his head.
So you can feel that just joy in terms of having this team make it to this point. And the idea -- people will show you pictures of their loved ones in their burials and putting it on the side of friendly confines.
[00:05:05] And if you look behind me, there's that big red sign. That's where hundreds of thousands of fans have shown up outside, to sit outside and make sure that if this team wins they are ready to be there to celebrate in the streets.
That's one of the things that all these fans are waiting for. Not sure if that is going to happen as everyone's kind of nail-biting. As we stand here, there are people who have like TVs on the streets for people to watch. That's what they're doing, they're standing together. But will it happen? We don't know.
VAUSE: Oh, gosh. Ok. Very quickly back to Dan in Cleveland. So explain to us. We have this rain delay right now. We understand that the rain should clear up in about 15 minutes but then another 45 minutes after that we are expecting a pretty strong thunderstorm.
Is it possible that maybe this will be washed out in some way? They have to play again tomorrow? What are the rules here?
SIMON: You know what? I don't know. But you stumped me on that one. But I got to tell you the skies look pretty clear right now. I'm not seeing any rain behind me.
We do see a lot of folks at the gates peering through the ballpark trying to watch the action on television, kind of like what Ryan is saying in Chicago. People, you know, have their little portable televisions as well watching the game on their devices.
So I don't know what's going to happen with the rain. It looks like it's clearing up but if there is more bad weather on the way that is certainly going to complicate things.
VAUSE: To say the least.
SESAY: Yes, indeed.
VAUSE: Ok. We'll continue to keep a very close eye on everything that is happening there in Cleveland tonight. Dan and Ryan -- thank you both.
SESAY: Ryan in Chicago with --
VAUSE: The tension, you can feel it. It's more exciting than a presidential election. Thanks -- guys.
SESAY: We'll come back to you, guys --
YOUNG: Absolutely.
SESAY: -- thank you.
VAUSE: More than 31 million Americans have already voted in this election and with just six days to go the candidates and their army of surrogates are now making their closing arguments. Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump are stumping in four crucial states -- Arizona, Florida, Nevada and Pennsylvania.
SESAY: Well, new CNN/ORC polls show close races in these battlegrounds. Clinton leads Trump with a slight edge in Florida but the race has shifted for Trump in Nevada.
VAUSE: Joining us now Democratic strategist Matt Littman and Republican consultant John Thomas. Hi -- you guys.
Let's start with the latest release of stolen emails from the Democrat side released by WikiLeaks. This is the gift which keeps on giving to Donald Trump in the final days of this campaign.
This was Trump a few hours ago.
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DONALD TRUMP (R), PRESIDENTIAL NOMINEE: The emails show that the assistant attorney general who is involved in the investigation has been feeding information directly to John Podesta who he knows very well on the Clinton campaign. Folks, folks -- it's a rigged system.
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VAUSE: Ok. You're laughing Matt. But you know, I guess the thinking of it is, even if you don't know the details of what's going on here -- there is this ongoing perception day after day after day of at least the appearance of corruption.
MATTHEW LITTMAN, DEMOCRATIC STRATEGIST: I don't think there is any corruption here. This certainly doesn't help Hillary Clinton. You get the impression that whoever is getting the bad news last the other person is going to win -- right. At this point the way that things are going.
But there's nothing -- the FBI found nothing that was worth prosecuting about Hillary Clinton before. It doesn't seem like they're going to find anything now because we haven't heard anything that they will. So we talk about the appearance of corruption but there has been no corruption. Hillary is winning in the states that you need to win in to become president. Right now it is getting closer but she is still winning.
SESAY: John, let me ask you this before you respond to that. For Trump, as we heard there, the temptation is to go all in on these emails in the closing stages of the race. Does that carry any risks for him?
JOHN THOMAS, REPUBLICAN CONSULTANT: Well not necessarily. Innuendo goes a long way in the home stretch. But he has two narratives he has to push. The one is the corruption -- he has to double down on that. But he also has to speak to the real concerns of voters and that's the economy.
So he has to push both of those and try not to become the story himself. And that's hard to do.
Here's the problem. Both campaigns need to be making closing arguments right now. Hillary Clinton does want to make it about temperament but the closing narrative is really that I'm not a crook. That's what -- and she doesn't want to be there.
And you're right. She's ahead narrowly in some of the polls but momentum is on Donald Trump's side. And so the question, is there this wave or is it just tightening?
VAUSE: Yes. A couple of weeks ago, he was making the argument I'm not a crook. Now, she's making the argument, I'm not a crook.
There is growing criticism of the FBI Director James Comey and this time it's coming from the very top -- President Obama.
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BARACK OBAMA, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: I do think that there is a norm that when there are investigations we don't operate on innuendo. We don't operate on incomplete information. We don't operate on leaks. We operate based on concrete decisions that are made.
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[00:10:07] VAUSE: Ok. He didn't mention Comey by name but clearly he was talking about the FBI director. This comes after he said he had confidence in the FBI director.
So John -- given the change in tone for the President, a sign perhaps of just how worried the Democrats are now about this FBI investigation?
THOMAS: Obviously, the Obamas are heavily invested in the outcome of this race. This is a legacy race for them. They want their horse to win. I think he's right -- the FBI shouldn't operate on innuendo and reports are leaking today that Comey might have had these emails in early October. And so one could imagine he wouldn't have made that statement had he not realized there is a there, there.
SESAY: Matt.
LITTMAN: I don't agree with that. Yes.
No -- I don't agree with that.
The there, there would have to be that Hillary was purposely breaking the law which there's no evidence to indicate that they were. As a matter of fact, in these emails they have said -- they've also said about that these that these emails just may be the same emails that they have seen already. They don't know.
I think Comey was feeling political pressure from the Republicans who lead the committees in the House that will be overseeing the FBI and I think he felt the political pressure.
I think it's very bad what Comey did. I don't think -- there is a lot of infighting now in the FBI. It reduces people's faith in another government institution.
But I think John is right. Hillary's argument right now isn't where it needs to be to get her over the finish line. On the other hand Trump is not going to be arguing about the economy for the next week. He's mostly just going to be going after Hillary. His argument is never really positive except when he is reading off the teleprompter. That's the only time he's kind of positive. But they are both running negative arguments as we get into this last week.
VAUSE: Ok. Well, for Trump to win he still needs a lot to go right -- a lot to go right in the polls today and he knows it. Listen to this.
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TRUMP: The polls have just come up. We're way up in Florida. I shouldn't say that because I want you to go vote. Ok.
Ready -- we're going the pretend we're down. We're down -- pretend, right? We'll pretend we're down. Now we've got to win. We've got to win big. We've got to beat her.
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LITTMAN: Let me just disagree with the premise there, John, because you said that the polls are good for Trump. They're not. It's getting closer.
VAUSE: She's leading in the closest battleground state. But you say she has a structural advantage but he does have the momentum. At this point in the campaign what would you rather have?
LITTMAN: Well, right now she is ahead in the states that you need to be ahead in to win.
VAUSE: But she is bleeding. And he's moving ahead.
LITTMAN: But I think that may have stopped. I mean I don't see any reason. She is still after the FBI came out with that statement last week, she is still ahead by six points in Wisconsin. She's still ahead by six points in Pennsylvania. Florida, they are back and forth polls but in the states that she needs to win, she is still ahead and ahead by a few points.
THOMAS: In Pennsylvania she was up by 10 to 12 a week and a half and now she is, depending on the poll today, between one and four. Her support is eroding and it moving toward him.
This can't be a place -- the race naturally tightened a few weeks ago and the conversation is really whether or not she's corrupt. I just can't think that's good. This is good news for Trump and his supporters are enthused because they think they have a shot now.
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SESAY: Let me ask you this -- let me interrupt.
His supporters are enthused but he needs more than his supporters. And so -- I mean is he pulling from blacks and Hispanics and women? Do we see that?
LITTMAN: Well, what's happening is that Hillary is not losing support. More Republicans are coming home to support Trump who might not have been voting before -- it's what we're seeing in the polls, right.
THOMAS: Well, ABC showed this week that there is a massive enthusiasm gap between Democrats and Republicans because Democrats who may not have loved Hillary Clinton but were going to vote for her may just sit this one out. That's a problem. That's perhaps why she went back to Michigan, a safe place, because she's got to make sure her base turns out.
VAUSE: Yes, plenty of money in Michigan.
LITTMAN: But a week before the enthusiasm was in Hillary's favor.
VAUSE: Yes.
LITTMAN: We have six days until this election. Donald Trump is capable of saying or doing anything between now and Tuesday.
THOMAS: 100 percent.
VAUSE: And with that in mind, he knows that he has to stay on message. He has to keep it together. Listen to him a just a few hours ago in Pensacola.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) TRUMP: We've got to be nice and cool. Nice and cool -- right? Stay on point, Donald, stay on point. No side tracks, Donald, nice and easy. Nice --
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VAUSE: Can he keep it together? That's the question.
THOMAS: You know, Trump himself is what I'm most afraid of in this home stretch because just like the debates he can keep it together for 20 minutes but then he loses it. He is channeling his advisers telling him to keep cool. I don't know. I've got my fingers crossed.
SESAY: Matt, it's a battle of the ads and this is the battle of the surrogates -- which would you rather -- at this stage which is more effective in the closing stages?
LITTMAN: Well, I mean Hillary has great surrogates. Trump -- no offense -- Trump's surrogates are not very good.
THOMAS: Present company excluded.
LITTMAN: -- present company excluded.
I mean it's really -- it's not exactly the dream team that he has out there. Hillary's ads are solid but listen, Trump has the support of at least 40 percent of the country, it seems. His ceiling has been about 42 percent. Hillary's has been about 48 percent. There is still about four or five point gap in the average polls between them.
VAUSE: Very quickly, we want to get to Hillary Clinton. A few hours ago, she's actually in Arizona, normally ruby red Republican territory again -- slamming Trump.
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[00:15:07] HILLARY CLINTON (D), PRESIDENTIAL NOMINEE: He has shone us who he is. Now we have to decide who we are. And right now across the country people are doing just that. They are rejecting his dark and divisive vision.
We know that America is big-hearted, not small-minded. We want to lift people up, not tear each other down.
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VAUSE: Donald Trump fixed her mike, obviously. In Arizona I mean that looked like it was in play a week or so ago. Polls have tied and Trump has stopped the bleeding there. And the Democrats have doubled their ad spend in Arizona.
LITTMAN: This is a get out the vote effort at this point.
VAUSE: Right.
LITTMAN: You just have to get out your base of support. That's what it is all about at this point. Hillary is ahead in the polls if her base gets out and votes with some enthusiasm then she'll win. And if her base does not get out and vote, we're seeing less African- Americans voting but we should see more Latinos voting.
THOMAS: Look, Hillary has more ads on the air. She probably has -- she does, she has a better surrogate team but Trump has the national narrative right now which is corruption and that's a good place for Trump to be.
And let's not forget, Weiner just checked into a sex clinic. Huma is off the trail. I mean she's imploding --
LITTMAN: Huma is not, by the way, Huma is not off the trail. I think she is hosting an event for Hillary this week as a matter of fact.
The Anthony Weiner thing, I'm not even -- I don't want to talk about it.
VAUSE: Let's leave it there.
SESAY: Let's not. Let's not.
VAUSE: Want to get to next hour because you know, as we say a week in politics is a lifetime. This campaign, an hour in politics is a lifetime. So come back next hour. It could have all changed by then.
SESAY: Thank you -- gentlemen.
All right. Now, for the first time in nearly a year ISIS is releasing an audio message it claims to be from Abu Bakr Al Baghdadi -- the group's leader. In it he calls on suicide fighters to destroy the cities of the unbelievers and says he is confident of an ISIS victory in Mosul. He tells fighters there to hold their ground.
VAUSE: He says God's enemies from the Jews, Christians, atheists, Shiites, apostates and all the world's infidels have dedicated their media, money, army and munitions to fight Muslims and jihadists in the state of Nineveh after they witnessed it become one of the bases of Islam and one of the minarets under the caliphate." Nineveh is an ancient name for what is now known as Mosul region.
Meantime, ISIS snipers and constant gunfire have slowed Iraqi forces as they come within just a few hundred meters from the city limits of Mosul. More than a million civilians are trapped inside that city, growing fears they will be used by ISIS as human shields.
We'll take a short break.
When we come back, you may know her as a villain from the soap operas. Kimberlyn Brown (ph) joins us later this hour, why she thinks Donald Trump in her words is the most qualified man to turn things around in the U.S.
SESAY: Plus U.S. voters in the happiest place on earth, Disneyland, give their thoughts on this nasty U.S. election.
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DEREK VAN DAM, AMS METEOROLOGIST: Chance of rainfall for the New England coastline. This is associated with a cold front that will drastically cool our temperatures into New York City. More on that in just one moment.
We have chances of showers across central Texas, moving into New Mexico and parts of Arizona. And a stormy weather pattern is starting to take shape for the Pacific Northwest once again.
Here's our rainfall accumulation over the next few days. You can see it will be heaviest across Arizona and into New Mexico as well as western and central Texas. And there's our chance of showers associated with our passage of our front line from the upper Great Lakes through the New England coastline.
New York still at 21 today, afternoon and evening showers starting to settle in but look at what the cold front does to our temperatures as we head into the day tomorrow. To start off the early weekend a very chilly November, 13 degrees for you. 14 on Saturday but we'll make up for it with some sunshine overhead.
A few other cities along the East Coast of the U.S. also feeling the impact is of that cold front. Washington cooling off drastically, more of the same for Charlotte. Staying fairly temperate though into Atlanta, maybe a few degrees change as we head to the course of the weekend.
What about Central America? 23 for Guatemala City, Belize City 30 degrees, Kingston, Jamaica 31 and as we head a little further to the south, unfortunately rain in Rio de Janeiro.
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SESAY: The U.S. Presidential race has been long and it has been nasty. Journalists from the "Los Angeles Times" talked to people in the happiest place on earth, Disneyland.
VAUSE: My favorite place.
Just like voters across the United States, most of the people they interviewed were dissatisfied with the election, not excited by either candidate and they're asked to describe this election in just one word.
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VAUSE: So you get the idea.
Christina Bellantoni was part of the team behind the project. She's the assistant managing editor for politics at the "L.A. Times". Christina -- thank you so much for being with us.
SESAY: Thank you for coming.
CHRISTINA BELLANTONI, L.A. TIMES: My pleasure. VAUSE: You know, when I looked at this project you put together what struck me not so much that people are unhappy, we know, that but the despair that they felt with the tone of the election.
(inaudible) from San Diego who said, they're just kind of barking at each other the whole time.
And then there was Todd (inaudible) from Seattle. "All people do is get in fights every five minutes about their candidate and it's not worth it."
BELLANTONI: It wasn't what we were expecting. We wanted to go in and not just ask people who are voting for because that's kind of boring and you might, you know, you're in California you might expect a certain result.
So we just tried to have an open-ended question. Describe your feelings about this election in one word. And overwhelmingly, they were all negative. There was one person who said they were hopeful but everyone else it was these feelings of like real darkness.
And you are seeing that reflected across the country and that's something that we really felt like well, we did, we got a representative sample of voters here in Disneyland.
VAUSE: It's a tourist place, too so it's not just California which is more --
BELLANTONI: Right.
VAUSE: -- liberal. They're people from all over the country.
BELLANTONI: Yes. And that's what we actually. We had thought we would get like everybody but it was mostly West Coast people. It was raining that day.
VAUSE: Oh, I see.
BELLANTONI: So I think that kept a lot of the tourists away.
SESAY: Let me ask you this. As I looked through the different responses I was struck by a 23-year-old Daniella (inaudible) who was pictured with her friend Matthew -- Matthew Olsen and she just had, you know, the word "pointless".
And it makes you wonder how many young people have been forever turned off by politics, the electoral process, by all of this.
BELLANTONI: Yes. And it's hard to know. We talked to all of these voters and asked them are you going to be voting? And only one person said, you know what, it's so pointless, I'm staying home effectively because it's so worrisome -- was that man's word.
But the idea is that people just don't feel like they are motivated to do something. We're seeing that reflected in all kinds of polls. The "Los Angeles Times" has a poll coming out of California voters, very similar, like people just aren't as motivated or excited about their candidates.
And particularly because it has been so nasty the motivation is more to vote against someone. And that's not really the place you want the country to be. And it begs us to ask the question, what happens after the election?
[00:25:08] This will be over next Tuesday.
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BELLANTONI: Yes, fortunately.
And so then what happens? You know, what happens to everybody who was for a candidate or who's against a candidate. How do we come together as a country? Because we know people are tired of gridlock -- that was another theme that we heard. People are just frustrated with Washington in general.
VAUSE: You know, one person who stood out for me was Emily Vasquez who is a 21-year-old student. This is her first presidential election. This is what she told you. "They act so childish, it's like high school. I feel like they should act their age."
It hadn't really occurred to me up until this point how depressing is this election if this is your first time to go out and vote? I mean these are your choices. This is an awful first-time election.
BELLANTONI: It reminds me a little bit of how millennial voters see this election because their first experience with politics, they weren't voting in it but when they were sort of starting to pay attention, was watching the Supreme Court decide the Presidential race.
That's how they came into this and now they are getting to vote for the first time, in some cases the second time. And yes, it's especially compared to the feelings that the country had about Barack Obama whether you supported him or not -- there was a sort of sense of uplifting.
SESAY: Yes.
BELLANTONI: And particularly with events over the last few days this has been a real challenge for both parties.
SESAY: Christina, let me ask you about 27-year-old Devera Roja (ph), who describes this -- she uses the word "confusing" and she really painted this election in very stark terms. She refers to Donald Trump and she says, "With him we'd go back to segregation, we'd go to war for the wrong reasons. Co-workers could lose their visas."
And that's another thing. There are people in this election who are genuinely afraid.
BELLANTONI: There was a lot of that. And we hear that all of the time particularly in California from people that know, you know, immigrants that might be in the country without documentation, people that are afraid of how Muslims could be treated in this country.
So her big concern was look, this is someone that could bring us into war because of his policies. And that's I'm coming out and she's voting for Hillary Clinton. And you heard a lot of that. Again, it's that motivation to vote against something to prevent something.
And Hillary Clinton, even herself she was campaigning in Nevada today. That's what she said. She's like, Donald Trump has this picture of minority voters of Americans that I think is disturbing and I don't view America that way. So it's trying to get people to show up to vote against him.
VAUSE: Ok. It is a unique election for a lot of reasons.
BELLANTONI: It is.
SESAY: Yes. We've been talking all about for a very long time.
BELLANTONI: May we all get to Disneyland at some point.
VAUSE: Yes. The happiest place on earth.
SESAY: Indeed.
VAUSE: Thank you.
SESAY: Thank you.
VAUSE: Short break -- when we come back, not easy to be a Republican in Hollywood. Next we're joined by one of them. Why actress Kimberlyn Brown thinks the Donald has what it takes to be the next president.
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KIMBERLYN BROWN, ACTRESS: It's time we stood up for ourselves, for Donald Trump, and for our country.
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[00:31:30] VAUSE: You're watching CNN NEWSROOM live from Los Angeles, I'm John Vause.
SESAY: And I'm Isha Sesay, the headlines this hour.
ISIS has released a new audio tape it claims is a message from the group's leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi. In it he says he is confident of an ISIS victory in Mosul and calls on fighters there to hold their ground. Meantime, Iraqi forces are now about 200 meters from the city's eastern perimeter and struggling with sniper fire and IEDs.
VAUSE: Police in the U.S. state of Iowa have arrested a man they say ambushed and killed two of their own. So far this year, 52 police officers in the U.S. and Puerto Rico have been shot dead in the line of duty. There are 41 killings last year.
SESAY: The Chicago Cubs have taken the lead over the Cleveland Indians in the 10th inning of game seven in the World Series. Play has now resumed after a brief rain delay. Cleveland hit a two-run homer in the eight to even a score at six-six and send this game to extra innings. The Indians haven't won a World Series since 1948, the Cubs since 1908.
VAUSE: Less than a week to go until Election Day and the polls are tightening in the race for the White House.
SESAY: A new "CNN/ORC" poll of likely voters shows Hillary Clinton with the lead in the two key states of Florida and Pennsylvania. Trump has the edge in both Nevada and the typically Republican leaning Arizona.
Well, one of the big appeals for many Trump supporters is his business experience and the belief those skills will lift the U.S. economy. It was a major part of the Republican convention last July.
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KIMBERLIN BROWN, ACTRESS: Donald is the most qualified man in America to turn things around in Washington and in our nation.
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VAUSE: The woman who snagged that primetime speaking gig was listed on the Republican Web site as Kimberlin Brown, small business owner and avocado farmer. But to millions of TV viewers around the world, she is Sheila Carter, the villain from soap operas "The Young and the Restless" and later "The Bold and the Beautiful."
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BROWN: You bitch!
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VAUSE: And Kimberlin joins us here now in Los Angeles.
Great clip, that one.
BROWN: Was that bad language? I don't know, I'm just saying. I'm just saying, OK.
VAUSE: Thanks for coming in.
BROWN: No, I'm happy to be here.
VAUSE: The convention seems like a lifetime ago, really. So much has happened since then. And I'm just wondering, you know, especially on the Donald Trump side, especially the other stuff that has come out about women, women who alleged sexual assault, the "Access Hollywood" tape, the lewd comments.
Has that changed your mind or did you have a moment of doubt when all that stuff started coming out that maybe he's not the right guy?
BROWN: No.
VAUSE: Why not?
BROWN: No, it really didn't. What you just said, you know, the alleged incidents that have come forward. I think once they are proven, maybe I'll say something different, but for right now, no. And as far as the videotape, or the audiotape, I should say, I've worked in Hollywood for a very long time. And, basically, you just have to do one movie with Tom Sizemore and you're going to hear far worse than any of that. I have a thick skin. A very thick skin.
And I truly believe that what's important are the issues, which the public really haven't heard a lot. It's been a very tabloid-esque election season across the board with the media.
[00:35:08] And me, as a small business owner, I speak on behalf of small business. We're being killed. We're being crashed.
SESAY: So let me pick up on that.
BROWN: OK.
SESAY: Because you are a businesswoman.
BROWN: Yes.
SESAY: How have you reconciled with the stories out there, the people coming forward who've said Donald Trump has stiffed them, when it's come to working with him?
They haven't been paid. That there has been lots of back and forth about them being fairly compensated for their work and it is a passing with him. How do you as a small businesswoman reconcile that with your support?
BROWN: You know what, as far as that goes, that's all been brought up by people who once again haven't been able to 100 percent substantiate the comments that they're making.
Myself, being in small business, there are issues that do come up. You pay for work that is done the way that you want it done. The issues that have been brought up with Donald, I know that that has been a part of it. But what's most important to me is where we go from here.
We have so many people in Washington who are making regulations and making laws to governor small business that have never, ever even had to make a payroll.
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VAUSE: Yes, we hear that a lot in Trump supporters.
BROWN: You know, it's so scary for me and I live it every day. I can tell you that I employ over 170 young people with our businesses in San Diego. And Obamacare is killing them.
Before Obamacare, we paid for insurance for all of our kids and we've always paid more than minimum wage. And with Obamacare, not only can they not afford the health care even though I still pay for half of it, they cannot afford the deductible.
SESAY: But you know there are lots of people who also say Obamacare has changed lives for the better for them. Kids can be on their insurance and there are 26 insurance companies that can't discriminate against pre-existing conditions. So, you know, there are very split opinions on Obamacare.
BROWN: They are very split opinions, but as a small business owner I see first hand what's actually happening to my young employees and it's heart breaking.
VAUSE: I want to get focus in to what you said at the convention. You talked about being bullied and harassed by the left. And Peter Thiel, who is this billionaire, tech investor, who was also gay, who's given his support to Donald Trump, he said a similar experience. This is how he talked about it just a few days ago.
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PETER THIEL, ENTREPRENEUR: This is the first time I've done something that's actually conventional. It didn't feel contrarian. This is the first -- it was like it's the first time I've done something big in my life that was just what half the country believed in and it's been the most controversial thing ever so that really surprised me.
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VAUSE: There's even pressure having thrown him off on boards like Facebook and other companies. They've resist that. But why this so much anger. You know, it comes from both sides, for someone just, you know, exercising his rights as you have as well.
BROWN: Well, you know, what was really surprising for me, the minute that they announced I would be speaking at the convention, the hate started.
SESAY: Immediately.
BROWN: No one even knew what I was talking about. I was specifically asked to speak on behalf of small business and women in business. And that was my goal. And all of a sudden, I'm a racist. I am a homophobe. I'm going to KKK meetings. It was heartbreaking for me because anyone who knows me and knows my circle of friends never would say anything like that about me and that was my only response. And then my husband said you can't look at any of this any longer. You just can't.
VAUSE: Yes, the heat has got to come out of this and the tone has got to improve, and hopefully it will.
SESAY: And hopefully it won't leave the country divided going forward on November 9th.
BROWN: We can't be divided. We really can't be divided. We need to move forward in a positive way across the board.
SESAY: Yes.
VAUSE: Kimberly, thanks so much for coming in.
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SESAY: Thank you. Thank you for coming in.
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VAUSE: Great to speak to you.
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BROWN: No, thank you.
SESAY: We're going to take a quick break now.
And Trump supporters are fighting back against sign thieves and vandals using electric shocks, fire crackers and much more. That is coming up, next.
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[00:41:25] SESAY: There's a battle being fought on the front lawns of the U.S. People are stealing and vandalizing political signs, even setting them on fire.
VAUSE: But as Jeanne Moos shows us, some of those signs are fighting back.
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JEANNE MOOS, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Trump signs aren't just being stolen. This one went up in flames, torched by a guy in his underwear in Platteville, Wisconsin. The sign's owners were burned up, especially when they recognized Mr. Underwear.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Oh, I think that's our neighbor, our tenant.
MOOS: Now ex-tenant.
So many Trump signs are being swiped and yard sign defense techniques are being deployed like using bike chain lubricant to make them slippery and messy, or worst yet, try dog poop or replace your signs with something they can't steal.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I'm going to keep cutting like this until Trump is elected.
MOOS: An Indianapolis man used fishing wire and string spray-painted green to fasten down his Trump sign. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: She loses her footing and lost her grip and she went flying.
MOOS: But one sign stealer gave up, the owner followed him.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He shoved me with both hands and knocks me down.
MOOS: Another owner electrified his sign to zap a would-be thief.
You hear less about Hillary signs being swiped. Though this Florida woman has to bring her signs in at night. And this woman had someone come up to her door.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Why are you voting for that and she pointed to my sign, and I was totally appalled.
MOOS (on-camera): Talk about a game of cat and mouse. Imagine using a mouse trap to protect your Trump sign.
(voice-over): New Hampshire's state representative Gary Hopper call sign stealers --
GARY HOPPER, NEW HAMPSHIRE STATE REPRESENTATIVE: The liberal commie scum.
MOOS: And demonstrates with a disclaimer --
HOPPER: And I want to tell you something you shouldn't do.
MOOS: Don't hook a six volt battery up to a mouse trap and then to firecracker so when someone moves the sign --
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But even worse than stealing signs, who would abscond with a cardboard cut out of the Donald. Cut it out, people. This is shocking.
Jeanne Moos, CNN, New York.
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SESAY: It's such a crazy election season.
VAUSE: It's almost over.
SESAY: It really is.
VAUSE: It's almost over.
SESAY: Well, thank you for watching CNN NEWSROOM live from Los Angeles, I'm Isha Sesay.
VAUSE: I'm John Vause. Stay with us. We are witnessing (INAUDIBLE) World Series. The Cubs and Indians battling in extra innings. We're following all the action from Cleveland. A live edition of "World Sport" coming up next. (COMMERCIAL BREAK)
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