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DONALD TRUMP (R), PRESIDENTIAL NOMINEE: I've been watching Hillary the last few days. She's totally unhinged.
[05:59:56] HILLARY CLINTON (D), PRESIDENTIAL NOMINEE: If Donald Trump were to win this election, we would have a commander in chief who is completely out of his depth.
BARACK OBAMA, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: We don't operate on innuendo and incomplete information, and we don't operate on leaks.
TRUMP: A lot of people out there that want us to really get this done.
CLINTON: Let's make sure that we win on Tuesday, and we (UNINTELLIGIBLE)!
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The Cubs have won the World Series!
CHRIS CUOMO, CNN ANCHOR: The curse is broken.
ANNOUNCER: This is NEW DAY with Chris Cuomo and Alisyn Camerota.
ALISYN CAMEROTA, CNN ANCHOR: Very exciting night, even for moi. Good morning. Welcome to your NEW DAY. It's Thursday, November 3, 6 a.m. in the east.
Up first, breaking the curse. The Chicago Cubs are World Series champions. The last time anyone could say that was 1908. The Cubs ending baseball's longest championship drought in dramatic fashion.
CHRIS CUOMO, CNN ANCHOR: You want to hear Alisyn go, "Ooh"? A baseball has 108 stitches.
CAMEROTA: Get out of here.
CUOMO: The Cubs, 108 years without a championship.
CUOMO: The epic game seven that ended this series had everything, boy. It was so tight. It had to go in extra inning. There was this rain delay in the middle of it that heightened the drama; but in the end the Cubs took out the Indians, and Chicago's North Side is going crazy. We've got all the bases covered.
Let's begin with Andy Scholes at the game in Cleveland. Brynn Gingras, as well. You guys getting to live history of the good kind.
ANDY SCHOLES, CNN SPORTS: How's it going, Chris? I know you like all those 108 correlations. I've got one more for you. The Cubs won in the tenth inning with eight runs, 108.
But what a game we had last night. It's going to go down as one of the greatest World Series games. The emotion these two fan bases had to go through in this one, enough to last a lifetime.
The Indians, they were down two in the bottom of the eighth inning when Rajai Davis set this crowd here at Progressive Field into a frenzy as he hit a two-run home run on the left. It went right off the camera. Check out LeBron James, he loves it, going nuts in the stands. The game would be tied after that. We'd go to extra innings. And after a short relay, Cubs left-fielder Ben Zobrist, the hero and RBI double in the tenth, seizes the World Series MVP.
Bill Murray weeped as the Cubs win. An absolute thriller, 8-7, ending their 108-year World Series drought.
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THEO EPSTEIN, CUBS PRESIDENT OF OPERATIONS: A hundred and eight years!
JAKE ARRIETA, CUBS PITCHER: A hundred and eight years doesn't mean anything anymore. It's the start of something new. A new chapter for the Chicago Cubs, for the entire city.
SCHOLES: What does it say about this team the way you came back 3-1 to win this?
DEXTER FOWLER, CUBS CENTER FIELDER: We never quit. It's never over until it's over. When it's over, now we're on top.
KRIS BRYANT, CUBS THIRD BASEMAN: This is what you dream for as a kid and I'm 24 years old and I'm the luckiest guy on the planet, man.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
SCHOLES: Chicago Bears one of many teams sending a congrats to the Cubs this morning. They sent out this tweet, with hashtag #flythew. And I'll tell you what, guys, I've been into a handful of locker room celebrations. Last night's Cubs party was one sight. There's -- I've never seen so many champagne bottles. I was trying to dodge the champagne left and right. Not successful, though. My eyes and ears still burning as we speak.
CAMEROTA: Chris calls that a Saturday night. But -- but that's great, Andy. Good for you. So exciting. So there's a lot of champagne being popped. Thousands of delirious
fans are still gathering in Chicago's Wrigley Field and celebrating all night long. That's where we find CNN's Brynn Gingras. She's outside the historic ballpark in Chicago. We still hear all the revelry, Brynn.
BRYNN GINGRAS, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Yes. A lot of champagne and a lot of everything here on the North Side of Wrigley Field. And you guys were talking about this, Chris and Alisyn, and also Andy, about just the drama of this game.
I actually talked to one woman who was out here partying with her two young daughters, if you can believe it or not. And she literally had bitten off the nails on her hand. That's how nervous this game made her. But of course, she is just ecstatic at this win, as is the rest of Chicago at this point.
We've seen people partying all through the streets through the early morning. This becoming ground zero for the most part. Wrigley Field home of Chicago Cubs, World Series champions. A lot of people coming down here into the early morning. And probably, throughout the day, we'll see taking pictures of that sign right there and the fireworks being set off. People still cheering, flying the "W" from their cars as they make their way through the streets here in Chicago.
Among those fans, of course, two very important Chicago natives. President Obama sending his congratulations through a Twitter, actually, inviting the Cubs to come to the White House before he vacates the White House later next year.
[06:05:06] And, also, Hillary Clinton also sending her congratulations, as well. A Chicago native. She said, "They did it, 100 years later, and the drought is finally over." Of course that hashtag, #flythew.
So a lot of excited fans, a lot of people could be calling out sick later today -- Chris and Alisyn.
CUOMO: Not you, Gingras. Nose to the grindstone.
GINGRAS: Yes. I'm here!
CUOMO: 1908 is the last time they did it. Last night in the crowd, 1908 men named Hank.
CAMEROTA: No, stop it.
CAMEROTA: No, there's not all -- but I am going to play 108 tonight in the lottery.
CUOMO: Or 1-9-0-8. 1908 is when that started.
CAMEROTA: OK. I could do that, as well.
CUOMO: That "Hank" thing is true.
Let's turn to the presidential race. Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump hitting the full throttle. That doesn't work as a metaphor, but we'll say it anyway. And they are trying to show what their best case is here in the last days. And what are the polls showing? That it's really tight. Just five days out.
CNN's Joe Johns live in Washington with more -- Joe.
JOE JOHNS, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Good morning, Chris.
Right now, it's all about get out the vote for both of these candidates, especially in the battleground states, and the challenge is to rev up voter excitement. But for Donald Trump, it's also about message discipline, avoiding another stumble. While for Hillary Clinton right now, it's about motivating minorities and younger voters to show up.
JOHNS (voice-over): Donald Trump reminding himself to stay on message.
TRUMP: We've got to be nice and cool. Nice and cool. Stay on point, Donald. Stay on point.
JOHNS: Making his big push in battleground Florida as new CNN polls show the race tightening in several swing states.
TRUMP: I've been watching Hillary the last few days. She's totally unhinged.
JOHNS: Hillary Clinton striking a grave tone, targeting minority voters in Nevada by using Trump's own words against him.
CLINTON: Someone who demeans women, mocks the disabled, insults Latinos and African-Americans.
JOHNS: Clinton also aggressively setting her sights on the red state of Arizona, where Trump holds a five-point lead.
CLINTON: If Donald Trump were to win this election, we would have a commander in chief who is completely out of his depth and whose ideas are incredibly dangerous. Or maybe, heaven forbid, start a real war instead of just a Twitter war.
JOHNS: Both candidates ramping up attacks, Clinton calling Trump "dark and divisive"...
CLINTON: We know that the presidency doesn't change who you are. It reveals who you are.
JOHNS: As Trump hits her on Trump's worthiness and on Obamacare.
TRUMP: Real change begins with immediately repealing and replacing Obamacare. You think Hillary's going to restore honesty to government? I don't know. I don't think so, folks.
JOHNS: And hammering away at the recent FBI scrutiny over Clinton's private e-mail server.
TRUMP: They just found 650,000 e-mails. I have a feeling those e- mails are going to be -- there's going to be some beauties in there.
JOHNS: In an interview with "People" magazine, Clinton calling the FBI e-mail review just noise and distraction, while remaining confident in the final stretch.
CLINTON: Everything he has said and done, both in his career and in this campaign, is a pretty good preview of what's to come.
JOHNS: Today, the battleground state focus continues, and where the candidates are going tells you what their priorities are. Donald Trump traveling to Florida and North Carolina today and Hillary Clinton making yet another visit to the Tarheel State, as well -- Chris and Alisyn.
CUOMO: Joe, appreciate it.
All right. So there is a series of new CNN polls that show the race tightening in the battleground states overall and going in that direction in this final stretch.
Let's go through the numbers. We've got CNN senior political analyst and senior editor for "The Atlantic," Ron Brownstein and CNN political analyst, David Gregory.
Ron, to start off with the headline. You have the man who wants to build the wall...
RON BROWNSTEIN, CNN SENIOR POLITICAL ANALYST: Yes.
CUOMO: ... against the woman who needs to protect the wall.
BROWNSTEIN: The blue wall.
CUOMO: I saw it on Alisyn's paper, and I stole it like it was mine.
BROWNSTEIN: Right. There is a really interesting, strategic choice that Hillary Clinton has made in this campaign that's been almost completely unremarked.
She has put in October, especially, almost all her efforts in a series of what are, in essence, reach or insurance states for her. Ohio, Florida, North Carolina, Iowa, Nevada. Those are states that she doesn't have to win in order to 270.
There are two states that are in her inner core of 270, New Hampshire and Pennsylvania, that she has treated as battleground states. But the -- some of the others -- Michigan, Wisconsin, Virginia, Colorado, New Mexico -- a little different. They basically treat it as done deals.
They have spent $180 million in Ohio, Florida and North Carolina. They spent $16 million in Wisconsin, Michigan and Colorado. They need to win the second three. They would like to win the first three.
[06:10:07] CAMEROTA: But which ones do you define as the blue wall?
BROWNSTEIN: The blue wall, so, the blue wall was phrased, like, in 2009...
CUOMO: Are you going to say that every time? The blue wall?
CAMEROTA: Yes, it's copyrighted. It's copyrighted. The blue wall are -- literally the blue wall are the 18 states that have voted Democratic in every election since 1982. Plus D.C. That's 242 Electoral College votes.
CAMEROTA: The wall is not connected.
BROWNSTEIN: No, no. No, it's not.
CAMEROTA: There is a break in the wall.
CUOMO: I mean, the wall is...
BROWNSTEIN: An archipelago of a wall.
CUOMO: The wall is an inept metaphor.
BROWNSTEIN: Of the wall -- of the wall, there are three states, Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania, that are all competitive. When you add to the blue wall Virginia, Colorado, New Mexico and New Hampshire, that would be enough to win. She doesn't need Florida. She doesn't need Ohio. She doesn't need North Carolina. Those are insurance.
The question is whether, by focusing so much on those reach states she's left any opening for Donald Trump, who is now pushing for several of those states in her inner 270.
CUOMO: So, what do we see in the numbers of our polls?
CAMEROTA: All right. Let's look at some of our polls. And David, you can comment on this. I believe that this is...
DAVID GREGORY, CNN POLITICAL ANALYST: I don't have a wall. I don't have a wall, but I can say something.
CAMEROTA: Hold on, these are our swing state battleground states. He is up in Arizona. She is up, marginally, in Florida. He is up in Nevada. She is up in Pennsylvania. OK, go ahead, David.
GREGORY: Well, I think not only our polling up in Pennsylvania, but the Wisconsin Marquette poll that shows her up six points in Wisconsin. That's very important for her. She's got to hold other states like in Colorado. But if you look at those really important states for her, and if she can combine New Hampshire, it's done. It's over. It's 270.
And as Ron has been saying a lot, she doesn't have to focus where she's been focused on, Florida and North Carolina and Ohio. She can lose all those things, if she can hold one of the strong states in the west and then put together Wisconsin and New Hampshire.
So, I think a lot of this dynamic of where she's been spending her time is a "B.C." issue, a "before Comey" issue. Because before Comey got involved with these e-mails, the race did look different. She was in a much more commanding position and could focus on her larger goal, which is not just winning but winning big. Because she's going to have a mandate issue all along, because she's going up against Donald Trump.
Now, she's in a much tighter race as Republicans come home. Republican officials I talk to say there's a guilt factor going on among top Republicans who don't want to see Trump lose by two or three points because they stayed on the fence or decided not to vote for him.
So, he's benefiting from that, along with these Senate candidates, who are bringing those voters home for Trump. If they're going to show up for a Ron Johnson, they're probably going to vote for Trump, as well.
CUOMO: All right. So let's take a look at our poll of polls of the battlegrounds and see...
CUOMO: This is why we do the poll of polls. Trump is up one. Clinton is up two in some polls today. But over the average of the last five major ones, you get 45-45. So, that creates a provocative inflection point here with a question, Ron. Colin Haye (ph), Men at Work, a great singer on his own. I watched the sun come up I watch it as it sets.
Is this as good as it gets? The Comey bomb that was dropped on Clinton's head still has her up in one poll, tied in Florida. Was it not enough to push Trump over?
BROWNSTEIN: I think that is the critical question as we look at all these polls that are out today. If you look at a state like a Pennsylvania or a Wisconsin, in particular, one with the Democratic tradition. If Donald Trump was not ahead in the polling that was taken during the height of the Comey release Friday and Saturday, if he's not ahead in a poll that includes that, will he go ahead at any point, or is there ongoing momentum?
I think in a state like Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, it's hard to see, if he wasn't ahead last weekend, that he's ever going to get over the top, especially because both of those states have kind of been like Lucy and the football for Republicans over the last 20 years. They think they're close, and they can't quite get there. Florida is a little bit different. And Florida and North Carolina
really embody kind of a similar dynamics, where you have the risk of her of diminished African-American turnout. And the question is, can she overcome that by more Hispanic turnout in Florida and in both states, better performance among college-educated whites. She might win the suburbs of Charlotte and Raleigh by even more than President Obama did in '12 and '08. Would that be enough to overcome if black turnout is not as high as it was for him in North Carolina?
CUOMO: This is also tempered by Republicans who think that, even in states, you know, senior Republicans that I've talked to say, look, he's still looking at Pennsylvania and New Hampshire as being best options for him. Two states where he's pretty well behind. And they're -- what they're saying is, well, we need something else to happen. There has to be some other kind of revelation which goes to Ron's point, which is he may be mining for votes in states like Michigan, someplace where they've seen some movement toward him.
Which is you do what you can do, but that's not getting him ahead. It's just some movement toward him, trying to tap into some of that momentum. That's still a more limited card to play and more of a losing card to play.
[06:15:10] CAMEROTA: Ron, we just -- just very quickly, because we just put up the poll of polls in North Carolina, where she is up, if you crunch all the numbers, 46 to 42. Is that the state to keep your eyes on?
BROWNSTEIN: Yes. Look, I think if she wins North Carolina -- I mean, they really have bet heavily on North Carolina and Florida. They've put unbelievable effort, $128 million, 19 appearances since June 1 combined. The president seems to be in Charlotte every -- I mean, he could be -- he'd be voting for city council in Charlotte, he's there -- he's there so often.
But yes, I think North Carolina is the state where the early voting, according to "The New York Times," has been tracking it, relative to that polling, seems to be consistent with a lever (ph). By the way, in Nevada, my colleague, David Wasserman, who's a great, great numbers cruncher, says that the early vote is so pro-Clinton at this point that the state might be gone.
CAMEROTA: That's funny. Because that's not what the polls say.
BROWNSTEIN: But the actual. Nevada is a state where the Democratic machine is kind of -- the turnout machine is kind of living up to its billing. It's not true everywhere by any means.
Look, North Carolina is going to be decided by whether Donald Trump -- he's going to blow the doors off in rural North Carolina. But he is -- he may lose the big metropolitan areas by a wider margin. Real quick, Donald -- in 2012 President Obama won the 100 largest counties in America by a combined 12 million votes. He lost the other 3,000 counties in America by a combined 7 million votes. Both sides of that could be bigger for Hillary Clinton. The gap between metro and non- metro America could be an absolute chasm. CAMEROTA: David, let's look at what the polls have looked like over
the past three months. Because it's interesting when you look at them in terms of the various controversies that have cropped up on each side.
And when you average out the polls, OK, so the poll of polls, Hillary Clinton has always stayed on top. I mean, regardless of WikiLeaks, regardless of e-mails, regardless of...
CUOMO: "Access Hollywood."
CAMEROTA: ... "Access Hollywood" on his side.
CUOMO: The Comey bomb now, the latest one now.
CAMEROTA: So what do you see, David?
GREGORY: I think that there is a core of this race, a core question that is really about capacity. Donald Trump is not fit or qualified to be president in the view of a majority of Americans. So, character and capacity are his greatest vulnerabilities, and she's exploited that.
So while she may not be trusted, she may not be particularly liked, imagine him in the Oval Office question that she's using on the stump now is ultimately decisive with voters. That's the -- I do think that that's what we're seeing in those polls. He can't quite get over that vulnerability.
CAMEROTA: Gentlemen, thank you very much.
Well, President Obama has been hitting the trail hard for Hillary Clinton and criticizing FBI director James Comey. He says the FBI should not operate on, quote, "innuendo or leaks."
CNN White House correspondent Michelle Kosinski is live in Miami with more. Now, Michelle, he did not say Director Comey's name, but everybody knew what he was saying.
MICHELLE KOSINSKI, CNN WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT: Right. Yes, exactly. And at first, you know, when you read it or listened to it, however you kind of digested this at first, it was a little bit ambiguous. At first he's talking about not wanting to weigh in, and then he starts talking about how this played out.
And remember, earlier this week the White House made headlines by defending the FBI director, saying he wasn't intentionally trying to influence the election, defending his character and his integrity. But, the president didn't quite seem to be saying that. In the words that he chose yesterday, he seemed to be unhappy with how this fell together. Listen.
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OBAMA: There is a norm that, when there are investigations, we don't operate on innuendo. We don't operate on incomplete information. We don't operate on leaks.
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CAMEROTA: And was he talking about the timing there when he talked about incomplete information? Was he saying that's how this was released by the FBI?
But, remember, before he said that, he was talking about how he didn't want to comment on this. So yes, the White House was asked about the president's comments yesterday after he said them. Was this a change in tone? Was this critical? But the White House isn't weighing in any further, at least not yet -- Alisyn.
CAMEROTA: OK, Michelle. Thanks so much for all of that.
Coming up on NEW DAY, we want to tell you that Trump campaign manager Kellyanne Conway will join us live in our 8 a.m. hour. Stick around for that.
CUOMO: So you've got Trump and Clinton doing everything they can in these final days. That's what you would expect. But what does that mean specifically? What is their final pitch, and what could be the biggest factor in this race? Answers ahead.
[06:23:53] CAMEROTA: OK. We're five days. Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton making their final pitches to voters in these days left in the election. The candidates are barnstorming battleground states. So what are their different strategies? Let's bring back our panel of political experts, David Gregory and Ron Brownstein.
So Ron, let's look at voter composition. I know that's something that you like to do. So Hillary Clinton -- they're, both, obviously, trying to appeal to minority voters. So let's look at where the challenges are. Let's first look at African-Americans. As we've been talking about, the early voting suggests that that is down since 2008 and 2012. That's a challenge for Hillary Clinton.
BROWNSTEIN: Yes. Look, the political scientists differ on how much early voting predicts actual voting on election day. I mean, there's some dispute about that. But there's no question this has caught the attention of even President Obama, who talked about it yesterday. The composition, if you asked me what is the critical factor in the final day is, I would say the composition of the electorate is the single largest factor.
And it is partially because the divergence between the key groups are so big. In the ABC/"Washington Post" tracking poll. Donald Trump is winning among non-college white men and non-college white women by more than Ronald Reagan beat Walter Mondale in 1984, which is astounding. And that means, you know, every additional point of turnout that he generates from that group is really significant.
[06:25:12] On the other hand, Hillary Clinton has a very big advantage among African-American, Latinos and other minorities, and she's also running better than any Democratic nominee among college-educated white voters. So even small differences...
BROWNSTEIN: ... in how large a proportion of the electorate each of these groups make up will matter enormously with tip states like North Carolina and Florida.
CAMEROTA: So the tipping point, just to be clear, for you is 72 percent white, 73 percent white. If it's higher he wins, and if it's lower she wins.
BROWNSTEIN: Well, I wouldn't put it quite that -- but something to that, yes. But also, the composition of the white vote matters a lot. Because you have this -- the biggest -- you're going to see the biggest divergence ever in this election between the vote of non- college whites and college whites. In '08, President Obama won college whites by seven points more, ran seven points better among college whites and non-college whites. It's the biggest gap ever. It's probably going to be double or more.
She's going to run 15 points better among college whites, non-college whites. So, in a state like North Carolina, where you have a white- collar suburban vote that is trending Democratic outside of Raleigh and Charlotte, how does that compare to the rural parts of the state where Donald Trump may set records in this election? The composition of the electorate is huge. That's where the turnout effort focus. It's also where the enthusiasm comes in, too.
CUOMO: All right. Brother Gregory, take us deeper into the data. If we're going to talk about composition, we look at it on the other side of the ball with the Democrats. That comes down what they call the Obama coalition.
What have we seen in early voting? We'll put it up on the screen. You've seen the African-American vote, obviously, key for Barack Obama, at the levels that it was. But you see Latinos up. So here's the problem. These are not equal commodities. Explain why.
GREGORY: Well, first of all, when you look at the African-American voting early voting say in North Carolina, Republicans will point out that they are doing less bad, less poorly than did Mitt Romney. And they ended up winning in 2012. The Republicans did. Romney did in 2012.
I think that the Hispanic vote in states from North Carolina to Arizona, Colorado. These are states where she, Hillary Clinton, can define her own coalition of ascendant voters. And we know that's true of the Latino community across the country, who may be particularly motivated to vote.
I also think, when we talk about the white composition of the vote, what matters is who is speaking to those voters. Hillary Clinton may have a more limited ability to try to win back some of those voters, white voters who had a college degree. Those who are voters who are part of her husband's coalition back in 1992. He' s out there speaking to them. Joe Biden is speaking to them. Tim Kaine is speaking to them and they have the ability surrogates to deploy those folks around.
And then college plus voters. Voters with a college education, I think, are going to be open to the message of Trump's bigotry, of Trump's intemperate behavior, of his recklessness, riskiness. That idea of can you imagine him really being the commander in chief, having his finger on nuclear code? Those are arguments that she's making to try to move that part of the electorate and shift as much of it around as possible.
BROWNSTEIN: You know, this race is defined by the fact that we have two candidates that are historically unpopular. And the last few points of Hillary Clinton's advantage, when she had a more comfortable advantage, were voters who really didn't think that much of her, who might not have trusted her or may not have been favorable toward her, but who simply, as David said, could not imagine Donald Trump as president, particularly college white men and non-college white women.
The events of the last week have shifted, I think, for many of them. Their focus back toward the things they don't like about Hillary Clinton.
And again, one of the core questions in the last week is do they go into these final days thinking about the limitations of what they think about Hillary Clinton or their hesitations and even kind of concern about Donald Trump.
CAMEROTA: We have a window into Donald Trump's strategy, because he is speaking to himself out loud. In fact, this is like his inner monologue on a hot mike. So let me play for you. I mean, he's just putting it all out there, what he's telling himself to do in these last days. Listen to this.
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TRUMP: We are going to win the White House. Going to win it. It's feeling like it already, isn't it. Just -- we've got to be nice and cool. Nice and cool. Right. Stay on point, Donald. Stay on point. No side tracks, Donald. Nice and easy. Nice.
Because I've been watching Hillary the last few days. She's totally unhinged. We don't want any of that. She has become unhinged.
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CUOMO: He's not even letting people see his eyes. He's got his hat all the way down.
CAMEROTA: David, who's he channeling?
GREGORY: Imagine how strange that is. That he is such an erratic person and that he has to talk out loud about resisting his impulsiveness.
CUOMO: He's not joking. He's not joking. We're laughing, but I'm laughing at the ridiculousness of it. He has to say to himself, "Don't put my foot in my mouth or attack anyone." GREGORY: Right. This is real input that he's getting that he's got
to kind of stay on track. It's why the argument is that he's so dangerous.