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BROOKE BALDWIN, CNN ANCHOR: And we are up live here in the nation's capital. I'm Brooke Baldwin. A pretty important house behind me. Someone else will be living there in just a matter of months. And today is the day we hopefully figure out who exactly that will be.
Today is the day. This is -- this is the finish line. We've been talking nonstop about all of this for 17, 18 or so months. It is Election Day in America.
And after all of the campaigning, the debates, the attack ads and what has been such an unconventional election year, you, voters, are hitting polls today to decide who will be the next president of the United States. Whether it is Donald Trump or Hillary Clinton, history will be made.
As for Hillary Clinton, she's obviously hoping to become the first woman elected to lead this country. Here she is very early this morning casting her ballot near her home in Chappaqua, New York.
Meantime, a Trump victory would mean a major rejection of the Washington establishment that has not been seen in generations. He voted this morning near his New York home with his family, his wife, his daughter, grandkids all by his side.
So, let's begin our hour on Election Day here with CNN Senior Washington Correspondent Joe Johns near that Clinton polling place in Chappaqua. I know she got home in the wee hours of the morning after a late-night rally in Raleigh. Joe Johns, good morning. How you doing?
JOE JOHNS, CNN SENIOR WASHINGTON CORRESPONDENT: All right. Sleepy, too, Brooke. I'll tell you, it's a beautiful day here in Chappaqua. Hillary Clinton did get started very early, around 8:00 this morning.
And as you note, they had a very late night and was out about 3:30 in the morning on the tarmac at White Plains after the big event, the final event, that midnight event in North Carolina. So, not much sleep for Hillary Clinton, at this point. But she was out trying to get that picture out public of her going to the polls, encouraging her voters to go to the polls. Now, when Hillary Clinton did talk very briefly for the cameras, she
was careful and trying not to assume anything. While her husband, Bill Clinton, talked just a bit. He sounded very much like he's quite accustomed now to being a political spouse, even on this big day.
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HILLARY CLINTON (D), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: The most humbling feeling, Dan, because, you know, I know how much responsibility goes with this and so many people are counting on the outcome of this election, what it means for our country. And I'll do the very best I can if I'm fortunate enough to win today.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Anything you're worried about today, secretary Clinton?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: How does it feel to be a political spouse Mr. Clinton?
HILLARY CLINTON: Thank you. Thank you.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: How does it feel to be a political spouse?
BILL CLINTON, FORMER PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: It's felt that way for several years now. I'm good. I've got 15 years of practice.
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JOHNS: Hillary Clinton, since, has done several radio interviews. But she certainly hasn't disclosed very much and clearly trying not to make news. She did tell one radio station that she hadn't got a lot -- a lot of sleep, as well. That, as far as she was concerned, she was running on adrenaline. I think we knew that.
We do expect her to go, later today, down to New York for the evening's activities and what her supporters hope will be a big night. Back to you, Brooke.
BALDWIN: How about that? Tonight, they will both be within miles of one another at their respective parties in Manhattan. Joe Johns, for now, thank you, in Chappaqua.
You know, as those results come in tonight, not only will Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump be in the same city, as I mentioned, they'll be, basically, two miles from one another in Midtown Manhattan.
We know that Hillary Clinton and her campaign, they're hosting her election night party under an actual glass ceiling at the convention center there. One that she is certainly hoping to shatter.
And Donald Trump and his supporters will gather at a nearby Midtown Manhattan hotel.
Sara Murray has been covering Trump since the beginning. She is live outside at Trump Towers there in New York. And we know he's not holding his as he hopes will be a party at a Trump location because he needs the space and so on this morning.
Who did I see in that picture with him? His wife and did I see Ivanka and her kiddos?
SARA MURRAY, CNN POLITICAL REPORTER: Yes, Ivanka was there. One of -- at least one of Ivanka's children was there. So, it was a little bit of a family affair when it came to voting today.
And, you know, we're still expecting New York to go blue. So, Donald Trump was welcomed by a couple of boos but also a couple of cheers. And he was asked whether he would accept the results of tonight's election, playing coy, as usual, he said, we'll see what happens.
But his running mate, Mike Pence, seems very sunny, very optimistic today telling people to go out and vote. Listen to what he had to say.
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GOV. MIKE PENCE (R), VICE PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: I just would encourage every American who believes like we do that America can be stronger at home and abroad. America can be more prosperous. That we can chart a future on our highest ideals to take time today to vote and to join us in supporting Donald Trump as the next president of the United States.
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[13:05:05] MURRAY: Now, Brooke, these last hours can sometimes be the most stressful of a campaign because your ads are up. Your field staffers are out there. As a candidate, there's not a whole lot left for to you do.
So, we understand Donald Trump has swooped through his war room at Trump Tower and chatted with some people there. He's making some phone calls into radio stations in battleground states.
But, other than that, he's going to be kind of hanging out until he has a super exclusive victory party with some of his donors and supporters before he heads over to his other invitational-only victory party here at the Hilton.
BALDWIN: Patience for the candidates. Patience for the rest of America. We should hopefully know in a couple of hours.
MURRAY: Yes.
BALDWIN: Sara Murray, thank you so much, in New York.
I've got some news just into us here at CNN. We have just learned that Donald Trump's legal team has filed a lawsuit in Nevada in this early voting dispute. They're apparently suing the Clark County registrar of voters, alleging he kept polling locations open two hours late, two hours beyond the designated closing time.
Let's go to Ariane De Vogue. She is -- she is on the phone. I remember when we heard the gentleman from Nevada talking about this the other day. He was frustrated by some folks in the line. But, correct me, weren't those some folks, Americans, who were allowed to be in line and vote?
ARIANE DE VOGUE, CNN SUPREME COURT AND JUSTICE CORRESPONDENT (via telephone): Well, it's interesting because this is not a huge legal filing here in Nevada. But it's worth noting that on this day, the lawyers for the Trump campaign, they're watching really carefully. And they're almost -- they're trying to get their ducks in order in case down the road if things get busy, they can proceed legally.
As you said, this is this early vote dispute from last Friday about whether or not people were allowed to vote after polling hours closed. One side says that the only people who were allowed to vote were the people that were already in line.
But here is why this is interesting. It's more than anything else a sign that in this election, legal teams are both -- on both sides are watching everything very closely. Here, all they're asking for is that if it becomes close, these disputed votes could be segregated and might be subject to a legal challenge. That's what's at play and interesting this early on.
BALDWIN: Ariane De Vogue, thank you.
As you mentioned, legal teams on both sides, thousands of lawyers across the country watching very, very closely.
Let's get now to our reporters in key battleground states that could help swing this election for either Donald Trump or Hillary Clinton. Randi Kaye is at a polling place in Orlando, Florida. But, first, let's go to National Correspondent Gary Tuchman standing by in Charlotte, North Carolina, where he appropriately said downtown is uptown in Charlotte.
Gary, North Carolina, it is key this year for these candidates.
GARY TUCHMAN, CNN NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: That's right, Brooke. And behind me, some of the most sought out people in America today, the North Carolina voter. North Carolina known for its beaches, its mountains, its high tech. Orville and Wilbur Wright is now known for a fierce battleground state, both candidates very much want to win here. They're both been here a lot during the campaign season.
Donald Trump not only wants to win here. He may have to win here to have a path to the White House. Barack Obama, he himself has been here six times campaigning for Hillary Clinton.
We're inside now one of the 2,700 precincts here in the state of North Carolina. Here's how it works. People come to this table and they sign in. Give their name and address. This is Anita. She's running this precinct. You're doing a great job, Anita (ph).
ANITA: Thank you.
TUCHMAN: Everything's under control? ANITA: Everything is fine.
TUCHMAN: No one is giving you any problems?
ANITA: No, not today.
TUCHMAN: OK. Do you have any muscle here to fight people if they do?
ANITA: I'm it.
TUCHMAN: You're it, OK. Good to see you, Anita. Thank you for talking to us.
So, you sign in here. Then you take the slip. No I.D. is necessary in the state of North Carolina. And you wait in this line. You show them your slip of paper. They verify that you are a part of the precinct. And once you're verified, you then wait in this line where the people are. And these are the 21 machines in which you vote.
One thing to keep in mind, Brooke, they have a very extensive early voting program here in the state of North Carolina. It lasted for 16 days. 3.1 million people voted early. If not one person came out today to vote, that high itself would be 45 percent of all of the people registered to vote in the state of North Carolina.
Obviously, people are turning out to vote. They're going to have a big turnout in this state.
Brooke, back to you.
BALDWIN: I love it. No need for extra muscle. Anita is there. I love how seriously everyone takes this, as they should.
Gary Tuchman, thank you, sir, in North Carolina.
Let's head south to Florida. Randi Kaye, take me behind the scenes in Orlando. What do you see?
RANDI KAYE, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, Brooke, we're seeing some folks kind of streaming in here. Not very long lines. Already 50 percent of all the registered voters in Orange County, where we are here in Orlando, have already voted. And we know that Donald Trump has really no path, no clear path, to the White House without a win in Florida.
One person we found here at this polling place supporting him is Laurie Connell. Lori, talk to us for just a moment. Why Donald Trump?
[13:10:03] LAURIE CONNELL: Why Donald Trump? Because I trust him because he truly has a pulse on the issues that are at hand with our country. We have been subjected to a lot of corruption in the past eight years, and I truly feel he is the only one that can step in with his background and turn this around. We have so many issues here at stake between the medical system that needs to be fixed, our amendments, our gun laws, abortion and religious freedoms. KAYE: And, as a woman, a lot of people, you know, who I've talked to
had some issues with the women's issues that he has faced, whether it's the accusers, the "Access Hollywood" tape. You have forgiven him for that?
CONNELL: You know, that's a mute (ph) issue. And, to me, that's Hillary just digging up dirt on him. I really have no respect for her with the issues that she's got, the Benghazi, the e-mails, the Clinton Foundation. I mean, it's all there. I mean, I just shudder to think that. But Trump has always had large crowds. He has -- he has a pulse on this country. He's met with the people in the restaurants and the diners.
KAYE: We know -- we know that he just filed lawsuit in Nevada which is some indication, perhaps, that there may be a contested election here, if it doesn't go his way. Can you even think about that? Do you think he would accept the results?
CONNELL: You know, I don't put anything past Hillary and her cartel and the people that have her back because the FBI is trying to --
KAYE: Do you think he would accept them?
CONNELL: I honestly don't know. You know, he says that when the time comes. But, you know, my mind is trying to think very positive that everyone I know, everyone I know, is all voting Trump.
KAYE: All right. We're going to let you get inside, Lauri. I know you have your driver's license in hand. You are not one of the early voters, but thank you so much for joining us. Some folks waiting until Election Day, Brooke. They want to feel the excitement. They like to wait until this very day to do so. Back to you.
BALDWIN: Glad you talked to her. We want to hear from folks, all sides, all taking a moment today to vote. Randi Kaye, thank you very much.
Let me bring in my panel. I've got Ryan Lizza sitting here with me in Washington, CNN Political Commentator, who's the Washington correspondent for "The New Yorker;" CNN Political Analyst Kirsten Powers, a Columnist for "USA Today;" Karen Tumulty, National Political Correspondent for "The Washington Post;" and David Zwerdlick is back with us, serving as assistant editor at "The Washington Post."
Happy Election Day. Collective, ah, we made it. But I do think it's worth actually putting a button on, Ryan Lizza, I'm going to look to you with your -- this is number five for you on presidential elections you've covered.
I think -- I just want to be careful when we talk about this lawsuit that was filed in Nevada. It doesn't mean that, you know, he will be a contested election. What it means is that they're watching. And also, on the flip side, Hillary Clinton's folks and her legal team and the legal eyes, they're across the country watching this very, very carefully. RYAN LIZZA, CNN POLITICAL COMMENTATOR: And it's not unusual for
campaigns to file lawsuits on Election Day. Usually, you file a lawsuit because there are a lot of people who want to vote and that, for one reason or another, the campaigns believe did not -- weren't able to vote. It sounds like this lawsuit is the opposite. They think that too many people voted.
John Ralston, who is known as one of the top political reporters in Las Vegas, I've seen him publicly on Twitter saying that, from his legal view, this does -- this lawsuit doesn't have a lot of merit. We'll have to see. Usually, the courts are pretty good on Election Day with reviewing these things fast and dealing with them.
So, just because a lawsuit is filed by one campaign or the other, we shouldn't get too excited. This happens every Election Day. Sometimes there's something to it. Sometimes it's nothing.
BALDWIN: Thank you, Ryan Lizza.
By the way, you're looking at live pictures. This is Governor Pence. He is leaving Indianapolis, eventually making his way to what he hopes will be a party this evening in Manhattan with Donald Trump. We saw him on his bike earlier today, biking to that polling place.
Karen Tumulty, to you. What I really want to do with all of you, for folks who are watching tonight and wondering, you know, what we could find out early enough. That the polling places that close on the earlier end. You have Georgia, Virginia, Ohio, North Carolina.
So, let's just start with Virginia. Just not too far from where we're sitting. What factors will you -- will you be looking for, especially when it comes to exit polls in that state?
KAREN TUMULTY, NATIONAL POLITICAL COMMENTATOR, "THE WASHINGTON POST": Well, Virginia has always, at least for the last few cycles, had a huge gender gap. And that is going to be one early indicator of that. But until very, very recently, Hillary Clinton had a really big lead in Virginia.
BALDWIN: She chose Tim Kaine. That helped her.
TUMULTY: Right. And it's -- now, the polls have closed. I still think, even a lot of Republicans I talked to, have said they don't think this is one that Donald Trump can pull out. That -- but he may bring it down within three percentage points, four percentage points, in which case it suggests that there's a lot of traction for him, not just in Virginia but in a lot of places.
BALDWIN: RNC decided to, just a couple weeks ago, to throw some money into Virginia. So, at least they felt it was worth to send resources that way.
What about Georgia, Dave?
DAVID SWERDLICK, CNN POLITICAL COMMENTATOR: So, I think this one may still be out of reach for Democrats this time around. But it is part of this trend of sun belt states slowly moving a little more accessible for Democrats and a little more of a challenge for Republicans. Just like the rust belt states are becoming a little more of a challenge for Democrats.
[13:15:13] BALDWIN: A little of a flip?
SWERDLICK: There's a lot of growth in the Latino population in Georgia, as in North Carolina and other sunbelts state, and that's the trend we're seeing. It's probably not going to come to full fruition this year, but four years from now, it's going to be big (ph).
BALDWIN: I think it's worth noting, I think one of the biggest stories that we'll look back on is the Hispanic vote in the country, and in Georgia specifically, the electorate there, it's not massive, but turnout is up 144 percent in Georgia from just four years ago. So I'm glad you mentioned that.
What about North Carolina? Because I think you could also talk about the Hispanic turnout in North Carolina, but also African-American turnout is not what it was. Of course it maybe wouldn't be what it was for - for then senator and then on to President Obama, but still it could come down to North Carolina tonight.
KIRSTEN POWERS, CNN POLITICAL ANALYST: Right. Well, I mean, a lot of people think the African-American vote is down there because of voter suppression. And so I think we have to wait and see if that's how its panned out because we have seen African-American vote actually being pretty good in other state. And so the question is, why are we not seeing it there?
The Clinton campaign has talked about the Latino vote there. It's only about 2 percent or 3 percent of the population. But because the turnout is so great, it could be making a difference there.
And North Carolina is kind of what Virginia used to be. So it's one of these states that, you know, used to be considered a conservative state that is because of - I think largely because of a lot of college educated whites are now starting - you know, in a couple of cycles we'll probably be a blue state and so we're kind of on the, you know, the cusp of that right now.
BALDWIN: We know that just - I - I like looking back, historic context, in '08. Obama had 49.7 percent of the vote. McCain, 49.38. That is how close it was. We hear - you know, we've seen both the president and Michelle Obama in North Carolina. And I - I mean Michelle Obama over and over calls out precincts, calls out percentage points and numbers of votes because it has been just that close there and it matters so, so much in this election.
RYAN LIZZA, CNN POLITICAL COMMENTATOR: Yes, and it's one of the states that Obama could not win in 2012.
BALDWIN: Yes.
LIZZA: But that looks very, very accessible for Hillary Clinton this time. I mean the story of all of these states is, you know, demographics, is destiny in this election. And, you know, you have some very discreet groups, college educated whites, working-class whites, and Hispanics and non-whites that have very predictable voting patterns in this election if you look at the underlying polls. And so the story that David was talking about, this transfer of the Democratic strength from the rust belt, overwhelmingly white and working class -
BALDWIN: Sunbelt.
LIZZA: A little bit more to the sunbelt is a big story. And that's not - it's not across the board, but it looks like that - that Trump will win Ohio and Iowa, two sort of northern Midwestern states with big, white working class populations that will - that Obama won those states in 2012, and Hillary looks very strong in North Carolina, a state that Obama couldn't win in 2012. So that's the kind of transition we're seeing.
KAREN TUMULTY, NATIONAL POLITICAL CORRESPONDENT, "THE WASHINGTON POST": But one more thing to watch in North Carolina -
BALDWIN: Yes.
TUMULTY: Beyond the African-American vote is, in 2012, North Carolina was the state where there was the biggest difference between the way young people voted and the way older people voted.
BALDWIN: Huh.
TUMULTY: In the 2014 midterm, young people didn't show up, which is one reason Kay Hagan, for instance, lost. We'll see if that part of the Obama coalition is showing up.
LIZZA: Yes. And, you know, Hillary's putting - you know, after tomorrow we'll probably talk about the Clinton coalition, if she wins, right, and her coalition -
BALDWIN: Which is different.
LIZZA: It's different. From the polling so far - i mean we're making a lot of assumptions here, right? Anything could happen tonight. But from the polling so far, she is not as strong as Obama with African- American voters. Not shocking.
BALDWIN: College educated women, Latinos.
LIZZA: But - and she's doing really well with college educated women. That's probably a - a function of Donald Trump alienating a lot of them. And she's doing better with Hispanic voters and not as well with millennials. So, you know, we might be talking tomorrow about the Clinton coalition going forward if that's the coalition she puts together, the question for Democrats will be, well, was that just a function of Trump being a very differ kind of candidate or is that more of an affirmative support for Hillary and the Democratic Party?
BALDWIN: I'm just fascinated by Ohio. You mentioned Ohio for a second. And, Dave, let me ask you about Ohio. So Trump may take it. SWERDLICK: Yes.
BALDWIN: And you have these disaffected, white, working-class voters.
SWERDLICK: Right.
BALDWIN: A lot of union folk who would traditionally go Democrat, who could go Republican. And if Hillary - if Hillary wins the White House and doesn't win Ohio, it would be a first since JFK in 1960.
SWERDLICK: 1960, right. And as Ryan said, it's not a perfect overlap. It's not a swap, sunbelt for rust belt this year, but we - we're seeing these trends. And if you look back to 2008 -
BALDWIN: Fascinating.
SWERDLICK: Remember, another rust belt state, Indiana. Obama won Indiana. We don't even think about that any more.
LIZZA: Yes.
SWERDLICK: A state - Mike Pence's home state.
BALDWIN: Yes.
SWERDLICK: A state that's considered very conservative. But - but that's how far Obama's reach was then. Lost it in '08. Lost North Carolina. You know, the strength of Trump was always bringing out disaffected, blue collar, white voters who had not maybe participated in more recent elections. The challenge for Clinton was always, holding together that Obama coalition, as Karen said. It's not exactly an overlap with the Clinton coalition, but it's a very similar coalition for Democrats in general.
[13:20:16] BALDWIN: So that's a look at some of the states. We'll see the polls close 7:00, 7:30.
I want you all to stick around because I want to come back. You're such a wealth of knowledge of many campaigns. Just sort of looking back at what we've lived through and covered, however many months, to see what your biggest takeaways are. So, marinade on that for me, please.
Still ahead here on CNN, election night surprises. Can Trump find a way to break through this Clinton blue wall we keep talking so much about? These are the blue states that traditionally vote Democratic. We'll also take a closer look at the three states Trump is hoping to flip in his favor tonight.
I'm Brooke Baldwin in beautiful Washington, D.C., on this Election Day. You are watching CNN's special live coverage.
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BALDWIN: You are watching CNN on this beautiful Tuesday afternoon here. Blue skies over the White House and The Washington Monument here in Washington, D.C., on this historic Election Day.
Hillary Clinton is counting on the blue wall to help her get to the magic number of 270 electoral votes, 270 this evening, but Donald Trump has been working very hard trying to win over the blue collar workers in reliably Democratic states. Can he break through?
CNN is staked out across that blue zone. Chris Frates in Manchester, New Hampshire, Jessica Schneider is in Warren, Michigan, and Miguel Marquez is in western PA, where Trump has spent months and months stumping in coal country.
Miguel, let's begin with you. What are voters telling you?
[13:25:01] MIGUEL MARQUEZ, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Yes, this is exactly where Donald Trump needs to do well. We are in Washington County, Pennsylvania. North Strabane Township. Big, big lines here. This has got to be music to the Trump ears because this is the last bit of politicking that one sees before they go into the voting booths here. The long stretches, the final bit is right here.
In a very cool thing, CNN actually has a drone up right over here so we can see how long the lines are. Earlier today this line was ruing about two hours long. Now it's running probably about at an hour to get through to vote. Washington is interesting because it has more Democrats than Republicans. But it tends to vote Republican. Romney beat Obama here in 2012, but Hillary Clinton has opened an office here looking for voters. With all the rancor, with all the madness of this election, we ran into one couple in this line earlier that blew our socks off.
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MARQUEZ: Why are you voting for Donald Trump?
JACKIE KRACHALA, VOTED FOR TRUMP: Because he's the best there is right now.
BILL KRACHALA, VOTED FOR CLINTON: Oh, geez.
J. KRACHALA: Come on, we need somebody strong. We need our country that - that can be our country again and not be owing all the other countries.
MARQUEZ: Aren't you excited for the first female president?
J. KRACHALA: No!
B. KRACHALA: I am.
MARQUEZ: So why are you voting for Hillary Clinton?
B. KRACHALA: Because she's the best of the two. I don't think either one of them are capable of running the country correctly without prejudice. And I believe that the experience is what counts. And we have a nuclear holocaust looking us in the eye. And I'm not too much for Trump because of that fact. (END VIDEO CLIP)
MARQUEZ: Bill and Jackie Krachala married 37 years. They actually gave each other a kiss at the end of that. How will Pennsylvania go? We won't know. We don't have any indication like other states where you have lots of early voting or absentee ballots. You don't have it here in Pennsylvania. All these people lining up. Big lines here. So from the 7:00 a.m. since we've been here, and we expect these to be here through the night, at 8:00 p.m. Eastern Time, polls here close, then we will know what Pennsylvania thinks.
Brooke.
BALDWIN: Can only imagine what dinner at that home has been like for however many months. Honey, I love you, but I don't agree with you whatsoever.
Miguel Marquez, thank you so much.
By the way, as Miguel mentioned, we have a drone up high above the skies there in Pennsylvania. So we've got - we've got cars, we've got planes, we've got buses, and we've got drones, just to give you the best pictures of how many people are lining up to vote in this country.
So, from Pennsylvania, let's head over to Michigan, to Jessica Schneider, who is in Warren, Michigan.
I have been there many times covering the American auto industry. A lot of folk there I'm sure paying close attention. Trump has been, of course, beating the drum. He's been talking about Ford, slamming Ford for moving a small car production to Mexico, although Ford says - the CEO says no jobs will be lost here. You know, he's promising to slam a huge tax on imports back into the U.S. How are voters responding to that, Jessica?
JESSICA SCHNEIDER, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Yes, Brooke, Trump has been hammering that message, and it's especially poignant right here in Macomb County. This is the count that Donald Trump is counting on. This is the county known as the home of the Reagan Democrats. This county contains the blue collar suburbs of Detroit. And Donald Trump has even come here specifically to this county to bring home his message of jobs and trade. In fact, he was here on Sunday night in Sterling Heights giving a big rally.
So the question is, will those Reagan Democrats turn to Trump? They've actually voted for President Obama here in this county. They voted for Obama in '08, as well as 2012. So will they flip to Republican? Of course, this state of Michigan has not turned red since 1988. So could it be different this time?
Well, we're inside one of the polls places, kept a little bit far back. But take a look here. You can see, there's a little bit of a lull. Of course, it's the middle of the afternoon. We did see lines out here ranging about 45 minutes long this morning. The poll workers here tell me that's about average for a presidential election, but we do expect things to pick back up a little bit after people come home from work. So the question is, who will they vote for? How will the turnout be, of course?
But, you know, the candidates have been flocking to this state. They've put renewed emphasis on this state. But despite that, I ran into somebody this morning, a woman walking in to vote, who told me she is still conflicted and was at the time still undecided. Take a listen.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I had absentee ballot and I filled it out and I voted Clinton, but I just couldn't bring myself to mail it. And then -
SCHNEIDER: So now you're showing up here and you're still not sure what to do.
[13:29:55] UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yes. Right. And so then I went to listen to Donald Trump Jr. yesterday and I have one family that won't talk to me if I don't vote for Trump. And my husband is voting for Clinton. And I really, honestly, I really am undecided. I am. I'm going to go in there and vote somebody.