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Trump Team Pushing Back Transition Team Turmoil Reports; SC Governor a Possible Choice as Top Diplomat; Trump to Meet with Japanese Prime Minister; Clinton Emerges with Message for Supporters; Many Aleppo Children Don't Know Life without War; Iraqi City Nimrud Damaged by ISIS; Worries over Trump's Stance on Climate Change; 3 New York Apartments Lose Trump Name; Trump's Presidential Priorities; Surge of Immigrant Families Crossing U.S. Border; Officer Charged in Philando Castile Death; Facebook, Google Fight Fake News Online; China Takes on Tesla in Driverless-Car War. Aired 2-3a ET
Aired November 17, 2016 - 02:00 ET
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SESAY: Hello. And welcome to our viewers around the world. I'm Isha Sesay.
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Donald Trump and his top advisers are pushing back against reports of turmoil in his transition team. Their meeting in Trump Tower in New York working on cabinet posts and other White House staff.
SESAY: On Twitter, Trump blamed the media for false stories. And his communications director said the reports are coming from bitter people who lost the election.
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JASON MILLER, TRUMP COMMUNICATIONS DIRECTOR: We're not going to rush TO put names forward until we are absolutely sure. We will make sure that they are people we are confident that can pass confirmation and can put forth the president elect's vision. It is also important to look back that even barrack Obama didn't have his cabinet formed the first week. And we are going to make sure we get it right. I understand the press has a job to do but we aren't going to do it on your time table. We'll do it as the president-elect has made his final decisions and then we will put them forward.
KELLYANNE CONAWY, TRUMP PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGN MANAGER: We feel really good about the transition. I would say it is false to say it is not going well. Everything is going smooth. I know the president-elect himself - I talk to him regularly --- he is very happy with how the transition is going. And from his perspective, he's been presented with any number of choices within the agencies and departments and he's making those tough decisions. He has more choices than one to fill in each position. So, we have an embarrassment of riches when it comes to many of those.
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SESAY: And a new name emerging as a possible choice for the top U.S. diplomate, South Carolina Governor Nikki Haley.
CNN's Sara Murray reports.
SARA MURRAY, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Reports are saying she is the kind of the person that they believe to be a good bet as a potential secretary of state in a Donald Trump administration. Obviously, the person we have been talking about is the leader for potential secretary of state has been Rudy Giuliani. But the fact that you are seeing Donald Trump meet with Nikki Haley, he has a full slate of meetings tomorrow, but Nikki Haley is the headline here because she was critical of him during the campaign, publicly critical, openly critical. She said she was going to vote for Donald Trump. But if he were to be seriously considering Nikki Haley for secretary of state, as sources say, if he were to pick her, that would be a good indication that he is serious about trying to find people he feels like will really flesh out his administration and bring more experience and that he is willing to forgive past grievances and look at people based on their credentials for the job.
Beyond that, one of the other big things they announced this evening is that they will look to anyone who serves in the Trump administration to then have a five-year ban on lobbying. We have seen a revolving door of people that go to the White House, leave, and go in to lobbying. The Trump administration wants to change that. They want the five-year ban. Unclear how they plan to implement or enforce it. That's what they are putting out there tonight.
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SESAY: Sara Murray reporting there.
Donald Trump will meet with Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe on Thursday. It is Trump's first meeting with a world leader since the election.
VAUSE: But some foreign governments say getting in touch with the president-elect has been difficult and confusing.
Here's Jim Sciutto.
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JIM SCIUTTO, CNN CHIEF NATIONAL SECURITY CORRSEPONDENT (voice-over): Donald Trump's first contact with foreign leaders are breaking long- established practices for an important early ritual for newly elected presidents.
One close U.S. ally had to reach out to multiple contacts before arranging a phone call with President-elect Trump, a diplomatic source tells CNN. This, a full day after his victory.
And the State Department, normally an intermediary for key conversations, has yet to be contacted by the Trump team.
JOHN KIRBY, STATE DEPARTMENT SPOKESMAN: We stand ready to support him and his team with any information that they might require either in advance of or on the back end.
SCIUTTO: Today, President elect Trump himself touted his first foreign contacts on Twitter, quote, "I've received and taken calls from many foreign leaders, despite what the failing 'New York Times' said: Russia, U.K., China, Saudi Arabia, japan."
And his spokesman, Jason Miller, told CNN that Mr. Trump has always intended to follow a different play book.
[02:05:11] MILLER: He will have strong relations and work with other foreign leaders and to show he is able to reach out and step outside of the political norms to do different things.
SCIUTTO: But different also means uncertain for foreign leaders eager to see where Donald Trump stands on foreign policy.
PHILIP CROWLEY, FORMER STATE DEPARTMENT SPOKESMAN: I think it takes on greater urgency in this circumstance since so little is known about Mr. Trump, how he will govern and who will advise him.
SCIUTTO: Japan's Prime Minister Shinzo Abe will be the first world leader to meet with Trump on Thursday. And, again, the transition team has not sought guidance or a briefing from the State Department in advance.
TOMOHIKO TANIGUCHI, SPECIAL ADVISOR TO CABINET OF JAPANESE PRIME MINISTER: There is a genuine interest and curiosity over him, to get to know more on who Mr. Trump is about. I think it is vice-versa. Mr. Trump maybe equally interested, even curious to know who Shinzo Abe is. This will be very much a classic ice-breaking opportunity for both of these people.
SCIUTTO: Among close U.S. allies, Japan arguably has one of the most pressing questions, and that is, was Donald Trump speaking the truth during the campaign when he said he would consider nuclearizing Asia, allowing countries, including Japan and South Korea, to have nuclear weapons. He has since walked back those communities. The question is will he clarify the issue when he meets with his Japanese counterpart.
Jim Sciutto, CNN, Washington.
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VAUSE: Hillary Clinton has kept a low profile since last week's upset result in the election.
SESAY: On Wednesday night, we saw the former presidential candidate give her first public speech since she conceded the presidency. And Clinton had a message for her supporters. Here's our senior Washington correspondent, Joe Johns.
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JOE JOHNS, CNN SENIOR WASHINGTON CORRESPONDENT: Hillary Clinton going back to her roots with a speech before the Children's Defense Fund, the first speech she's given since the crushing defeat by Donald Trump last week in the election. She did not mention Donald Trump by name. The speech was part of a reflection and encouragement to her supporters to stay the course in public life.
HILLARY CLINTON, (D), FORMER SECRETARY OF STATE & FORMER PRSIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: I ask you to stay engaged, say engaged on every level. We need you. America needs you, your energy, your ambition, your talent. That's how we get through this. That's how we help to make our contributions to bend the arc of the moral universe towards justice.
I know this isn't easy. I know that over the past week a lot of people have asked themselves whether America is the country we thought it was. The divisions laid bare by this election run deep, but please listen to me when I say this, America is worth it. Our children are worth it. Believe in our country. Fight for our values. And never, ever give up.
JOHNS: Secretary Clinton said she agreed to make this appearance before the Children's Defense Fund before the election. This, by the way, was the first organization Bill Clinton spoke to when he was elected president.
Joe Johns, CNN, Washington.
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SESAY: Activists are accusing the Syrian regime of killing at least 87 people by attacking rebel-held areas in and around eastern Aleppo. They say the victims include at least four children.
VAUSE: The al-Shah ([ph) neighborhood was worst hit as barrel bombs struck a number of targets. It's the latest in a series of attacks.
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KIRBY: Five hospitals and one mobile clinic. By all accounts, looks like they were deliberately targeted. All in the span of just the last day or so. It's also worth noting that despite Russian claims that halted air strikes in the past, in the past month or so.
UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: 28 days.
KIRBY: Yeah. They have allowed no food or humanitarian assistance in to east Aleppo. And the regime and Russia have now let Aleppo's residents starve, all while seeking praise from the international community for halting indiscriminate strikes for three weeks.
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VAUSE: Many of Aleppo's youngest victims don't know life without war. It has become part of their daily routine.
SESAY: CNN's Will Ripley spoke to some of the people caught in a battle they cannot escape.
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WILL RIPLEY, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): The children of east Aleppo are too young to remember life before this -- life before planes dropping bombs on their homes, hospitals, schools.
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[02:09:59] RIPLEY: Too young to understand why anyone would do this, how anyone could do this.
The girl under the red blanket was too young to die. She was just one of the children killed on Wednesday, one of dozens of people killed on day two of the Syrian regime's latest aerial assault of the rebel-held city.
MOHAMMAD EDUL, TEACHER IN ALEPPO: Today, today, Aleppo has suffered a very bloody air raid.
RIPLEY: Mohammad is a teacher, about to become a father. His wife is seven months pregnant. It's a boy.
EDUL: I'm going to be a daddy. I'm going to have a baby. I'm afraid my wife will die under -- when she is giving birth.
RIPLEY: Like most expecting moms in east Aleppo, she suffers from malnutrition. Her doctor has no prenatal vitamins to prescribe. The pharmacies, like the markets, are merely empty.
EDUL: The few things that are available, in little amount are super expensive.
RIPLEY: Every parent wants the best for their children but in east Aleppo even the basics are out of reach. One can of baby formula costs $20., twenty times the daily income of some families.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: A baby girl died because of there's no healthy food for her.
RIPLEY: This activist sees far too many children far too young to starve. He's grateful is 4-month-old son is still breast-feeding.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It's sort of when we were looking to your son and just pray to not get sick because if he gets sick, never find medicine for him.
RIPLEY (on camera): Are you more worried about your son getting hit with a bomb? Are you worried about him running out of food or getting sick?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I'm not get him out of the House at all. I am just hiding him in the safest room.
RIPLEY (voice-over): But even the safest rooms cannot withstand the most powerful bombs being dropped on east Aleppo. These children are too young to know what it really feels like to be safe.
Will Ripley, CNN, Istanbul.
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VAUSE: The World Health Organization has condemned the attacks on Aleppo's hospitals. I spoke earlier to Stephanie Hammond, from World Vision, about the crisis.
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STEPHANIE HAMMOND, POLICY ADVISOR, WORLD VISION: The medical sector, that health care has been deliberately targeted in Aleppo. Right now, in eastern Aleppo, we are seeing almost the complete destruction of medical infrastructure in that area. There are 30 doctors in all of eastern Aleppo city. What that means is there's about one doctor for every 9,000 civilians. There are about 11 functioning ambulances right now right now and only about six partially functioning hospitals in eastern Aleppo.
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SESAY: Paramilitary forces in Iraq recaptured a key base from ISIS. They say there are clearing out the few pockets of resistance. The base is just outside of the city of Tal Afar (ph) and will serve as a staging area for security forces in their battle with ISIS west of Mosul.
We are getting a look at how much damage ISIS did to the ancient city of Nimrud.
SESAY: Iraqi forces retook the city this weekend.
Here's Phil Black
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PHIL BLACK, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Nimrud in ruins. We're getting our first glimpse of the ancient Iraqi city, now leveled by ISIS. Located just south of Mosul, located just south of Mosul, the 3,000-year-old city was once the Assyrian capital, an empire that stretched across the middle east.
Nimrud was one of the richest archeological sites in the city, homes to the famous statues of winged bulls with famous faces which stood at the entrance of the palace of the Assyrian king. Now there's little left. (SHOUTING)
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BLACK: ISIS overran Nimrud back in 2014 and later released this video of the city's destruction. What they didn't blow up with explosives, they literally tore apart by hand, dismantling Nimrud's ancient artifacts with sledgehammers and power tools, destroying symbols the extremist group considers idolist.
UNESCO has condemned the destruction, even calling it a war crime.
On Sunday, Iraqi forces recaptured Nimrud. Their tanks and armored vehicles rolling into the city as part of the continuing offensive on Mosul.
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BLACK: Iraqi officials are now surveying the damage. The before-and- after comparison is striking. Ancient murals and statues lie shattered, what was a palace is now reduced to rubble.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE (through translation): We were able to liberate the historic site in record time. The Daesh militants have destroyed all of the relics that were here. Only a small part remains.
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BLACK: The ancient city caught in ISIS's catastrophic wave of cultural vandalism.
Phil Black, CNN, Irbil, Iraq.
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[02:15:25] VAUSE: Still to come, President-elect Donald Trump called climate change a hoax and now the leaders who signed on to the Paris Accords are waiting to see what the U.S. will do next.
SESAY: Plus, the officer who fired seven shots at an African-American man is now charged with manslaughter. Why prosecutors say Philando Castile's death was not justified.
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SESAY: Welcome back, everybody. Barack Obama has a busy day ahead in Berlin, the second stop of his final overseas trip as U.S. president. He has one-on-one meetings and a news conference with Chancellor Angela Merkel.
VAUSE: The two shared dinner on Wednesday night and they will likely discuss U.S. president-elect Donald Trump's critiques in security and trade agreements.
Before he left Greece on Wednesday, President Obama made it clear he expected the U.S. to respect its NATO obligations.
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[02:20:07] BARACK OBAMA, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: In recent years, we have made historic investments in NATO, increased America's presence in Europe. And today's NATO, the world's greatest alliance, is as strong and as ready as it has been. And I'm confident that just as America's commitment to the transatlantic alliance has endured seven decades, whether under a Democratic or Republican administration, that commitment will continue, including our pledge and treaty obligation to defend every ally.
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VAUSE: Despite President Obama's reassuring messages, environmentalists are worried about the Trump presidency.
SESAY: A year after the landmark climate change agreement in Paris, leaders are meeting again in Morocco.
Isa Soares has details.
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ISA SOARES, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Trump is not a name leaders want to discuss here, but among the diplomacy and the smiles, they are quietly sweating over his skepticism on climate change and there's no avoiding it.
(on camera): Can you comment on the election of President-elect Trump in the United States:
BAN KI-MOON, U.N. SECRETARY-GENERAL: I'm sure he will understand this, listen and he will evaluate his campaign remarks.
SOARES (voice-over): The fear here is that the president-elect could undo the climate change agreement signed by nearly 200 countries last year in Paris.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We are a little bit worried, but we are going to -- the system of legislation could may not allow him to un-do the gains from the successful Paris summit.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: There's momentum with or without the U.S.
SOARES: They have reason to worry. The president-elect has called climate change a hoax, created by and for the Chinese, in other words to make U.S. manufacturing non-competitive. He has even hinted at cancelling the Paris agreement and reviving the U.S. coal and gas industry.
(on camera): In legal terms, U.S. President-elect Trump could not pull out of the Paris agreement. He would have to trigger Article 28. That's the provision within the actual agreement, and that could take as many as four years, by which point his term will have ended. But there's a much quicker, faster way if he wants out. That's simply to ignore the commitment set in place by U.S. president Barack Obama.
(voice-over): U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry wants to avoid this at all costs.
JOHN KERRY, SECRETARY OF STATE: No one has a right to make decisions that affect billions of people based on solely ideology or without proper input.
SOARES: Europe, too, is pushing for this, sounding alarm bells and calling on Trump to stick to the accord.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We need the United States on board and we will do any effort to have them on board and to convince them that this is a win-win policy.
SOARES: But while many at the conference are optimistic the president-elect will change his mind, some of his supporters here are hoping he doesn't budge.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We stand in solidarity with president-elect Trump and this will be the first step toward doing it. This is our shredding of the documents.
SOARES: Isa Soares, CNN, Marrakesh, Morocco.
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SESAY: Well?
VAUSE: A long way.
VAUSE: Yes, it is. The first commitment.
Three New York high-rise apartments have a new look after losing the Trump name.
VAUSE: Brynn Gingras tells us what some residents have to say about their building's facelift.
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BRYNN GINGRAS, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Residents in three Manhattan apartment buildings voting against Trump, and winning. Thanks, in part, to a petition signed by hundreds of supporters, the luxurious New York City high-rises are dumping the Trump name from the building exteriors.
Construction workers were seen removing the "Trump Place" letters and carrying them in to the building. At one address, plywood covers where the letters used to be. At another, workers used a power washer to scrub away the dirt left behind.
The rebranding is not only happening on the outside, says resident, Jessica Pernell.
JESSICA PERNELL, APARTMENT RESIDENT: I saw the doormen changing out their wardrobes to new uniforms that don't have the Trump symbol on it.
GINGRAS: Pernell said she would have signed this petition entitled "Dump the Trump Name" had she known about it.
PERNELL: I would have because it goes hand in hand with my vote.
GINGRAS: The petition states residents are, quote, "embarrassed to be living in buildings where the name "Trump Place" emblazed on the front.
Robert Tessler is one of the petition's authors.
ROBERT TESSLER, DUMP TRUMP NAME PETITION AUTHOR: He's racist, an anti-feminist, anti-immigrant. He's almost anti everything, except one person, and that's Donald Trump. That's why it was so important to us who live in the building to have his name removed.
GINGRAS: But as the street-turned-construction site attracted tourists taking pictures, there were some New Yorkers who scowled at the site, like this man, who didn't want to give us his name.
[02:25:13] UNIDENTIFIED NAME: The election is over. We elected the next president of the United States. We should be patriotic. We should stand behind him.
GINGRAS (on camera): Workers are replacing the name with the street address. When we reached out to the management company and asked about the name change, they didn't get political at all. They basically said the contract between the firm and the Trump organization simply ran out.
(voice-over): In a statement, a company spokesman said, "Assuming a more neutral building identity will appeal to all current and future residents."
JONATHAN GREENMAN, NEW YORK CITY RESIDENT: They are just definitely trying to separate the political side from the business side.
GINGRAS: But The residents who signed the petition don't care about the reason, as long as those golden letters are gone.
Brynn Gingras, CNN, New York.
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VAUSE: He may have lost the Trump name on three towers, but have you thought about this, his photograph will be in every government building across the United States and every airport when people come to the country. The Donald Trump face, that photograph and name. It won't be just on a few buildings now. Everywhere.
SESAY: That's a thought. It will be everywhere. VAUSE: Just something to think about.
SESAY: Yeah.
Let's take a break. "State of America" with Kate Bolduan is coming up for our viewers in Asia.
VAUSE: For everyone else, we are counting down to Donald Trump's inauguration. We will look at what is at the top of the president- elect's to-do list at the White House. Details in a moment.
SESAY: Plus, immigrant families are heading to the U.S. boarder with a new urgency, trying to beat the clock before Mr. Trump becomes president.
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[02:30:14] VAUSE: Welcome back, everybody.
You are watching CNN NEWSROOM live from Los Angeles. I'm John Vause.
ISHA SESAY, CNN ANCHOR: I'm Isha Sesay.
The headlines this hour -
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VAUSE: Trump has suffered his stance on number of key issues. The border wall with Mexico may be part fantasy and he may want to keep parts of Obamacare.
SESAY: Tom Foreman looks at what the president-elect is expected to focus on first when he gets to the White House.
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TOM FOREMAN, CNN NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: There are a good many things that Donald Trump may be able to accomplish on his presidential punch list pretty early on, but there are both political and practical constraints.
Item one, the wall. Yes, he has the power as the president to continue to build sections of the wall on the U.S.-Mexico border where they are already being built. But if he wants to go beyond that, he will need money and that requires congressional approval. So, he can't do it alone.
Number two, deportations. He says he wants to deport a lot of people that came in illegally. He no longer appears to be talking about all 11 million undocumented workers but rather about two million that he says have committed serious crimes. And, yes, he can deport them if he can find them.
Number three, trade. He says he wants to renegotiate some trade deals he thinks are unfavorable to American workers. So, his victory and the victory of the Republicans and House and the Senate have already pretty much killed the Trans-Pacific trade deal. He can also go back on the NAFTA deal. However, it's worth bearing in mind, it's not clear what that would do and, no doubt, there would be some legal challenges that would follow out of that.
Another item, Obamacare. He says he will get rid of this, repeal and replace it. He would need Congress to help with this. He doesn't have the 60-vote majority he needs in the Senate to overcome a Democratic filibuster. That's one challenge. He can starve it of funds by cutting off money to different parts of the program but it's not clear what he would replace it with, as he says he will replace it.
Another thing, a hiring freeze for federal workers. He wants to cut down on workers and the budget that way. Yes, he can do that. It is not clear if he will follow through on that as president.
Lastly, what about this idea of investigating Hillary Clinton? The FBI has investigated, looked at her e-mail, decided twice there wasn't enough to prosecute her. But, yes, he could appoint a special prosecutor to look at it all again, although it is not clear if he will follow through on that idea.
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SESAY: Thank you to Tom Foreman for that.
You may have heard Donald Trump on the campaign trail vowing to do away with so-called sanctuary cities. Those are places with policies or laws limiting how much law enforcement and local officials will cooperate with federal immigration authorities.
VAUSE: Usually, that means they will protect undocumented immigrants by not holding or prosecuting them because they are in the country illegally. There are about 300 sanctuary cities across the country.
SESAY: Several officials, including Chicago's Mayor Rahm Emanuel, are pushing back on the president elect's plan.
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RAHM EMANUEL, CHICAGO MAYOR: To be clear about what Chicago is, it always will be a sanctuary city. To all those who are, after Tuesday's election, very nervous, filled with anxiety, as been spoken to, you are safe in Chicago. You are secure in Chicago. And you are supported in Chicago.
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SESAY: Well, college students across the U.S. are also staging protests against Trump's immigration plans.
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SESAY: These are pictures of a walkout at California State University right here in Los Angeles.
VAUSE: Thousands of students nationwide are putting pressure on campus officials to make their schools sanctuary campuses.
Meantime, Donald Trump's pledge to build a wall on the border with Mexico is driving a new influx of immigrants to the U.S. border.
SESAY: CNN's Polo Sandoval reports.
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POLO SANDOVAL, CNN CORESPONDENT (voice-over): It's the second south Texas border search, and there are hardly any empty seats that hardly any empty seats on the unmarked buses that pull into McAllen central station. Thousands of undocumented Central American families fleeing crime and poverty are again saturated America's immigration system. They turn themselves in to authorities at the border, are processed, then released wearing an ankle monitor and the promise of returning for a court date.
[02:35:18] (on camera): What is it that brings you to the United States? (SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE).
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: (SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE)
SANDOVAL (voice-over): The level of crime in this country is what brings him and his son, Juan Carlos, here.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: (SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE)
SANDOVAL: Before heading north, Carols Cardona (ph) and his 4-year- old son made a brief stop at a shelter that opened its doors during the immigration search in 2014. It's run by Sister Norma Pimentel.
SISTER NORMA PIMENTEL, CATHOLIC CHARITIES: The violence, instead of diminishing, it has escalated and so we have families that fear for their lives, especially of their kids.
SANDOVAL (on camera): Volunteers have been walking these the families from the bus station to the shelter and back for already two years now. But what's new are the numbers we are seeing lately. And you hear from officials here in south Texas, they will also tell you there's another reason why so many people are rushing to the U.S.
JIM DARLING, (D), MCALLEN, TEXAS, MAYOR: They all know about President Trump and a wall. When you talk to them, they know that.
SANDOVAL (voice-over): Mayor Jim Darling suspects it is no longer just violence and poverty in Central America fueling the new wave.
DARLING: If you talk about building a fence, and we're not going to allow people in, you better get here now before January and the swearing in ceremony.
SANDOVAL: Back at the shelter, these new arrivals are weighing in.
(on camera): Who comes here fearing that Donald Trump planned to build a massive border wall? (SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE).
Wow.
DEDIDAM FUENTES (ph), ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT TO U.S.: (SPEAKING FOREIGN LANAGUE)
SANDOVAL: Among the crowd, we found 17-year-old Dedidam Fuentes (ph) and her father, Netti (ph).
(on camera): Now that you're in the U.S., are you afraid of the idea of mass deportations?
FUENTES (ph): (SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGAUGE)
SANDOVAL: Fuentes tells me she fears being returned to her native Honduras.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Buenos noches.
SANDOVAL: On the banks of the Rio Grande, more migrants emerge out of the darkness and turn themselves in to authorities.
UNIDENTIFIED LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER: (SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE)
SANDOVAL: It is a seemingly endless flow of families arriving night and day.
PIMENTEL: There's a big fear in that community about what is going to happen. Ultimately, what we have to respond is to the fact they are human beings.
SANDOVAL: Carlos Cardona (ph) and his son are starting the U.S. stretch of his journey. Like so many others who are now in their shoes, they face an uncertain future.
Polo Sandoval, CNN, McAllen, Texas.
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VAUSE: The Minnesota police officer who shot and killed an African- American man during a traffic stop has been charged with second-degree manslaughter. Back in July, the fiance of Philando Castile live- streamed the moments after the officer fired at him seven times.
And a warning, you may find the video disturbing.
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DIAMOND REYNOLDS, FIANCE OF PHILANDO CASTILE: Stay with me. We got pulled over for a busted taillight in the back. And the police just - he's covered. They've killed my boyfriend. He's licensed to carry. He was trying to get out his I.D. and his wallet out of his pocket. And he let the officer know that he was -- he had a firearm and he was reaching for his wallet. And the officer just shot him in his arm.
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SESAY: The officer, Jeronimo Yanez, said he thought Castile was trying to pull out a gun. The officer's attorney could not be reached for comment.
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JOHN J. CHOI, RAMSEY COUNTY ATTORNEY: Philando Castile did not exhibit intent, nor did he have any reason to shoot the officer. In fact, his dying words were in protest that he wasn't reaching for his gun. There simply was no objective threat posed to Officer Yanez, Officer Kauser (ph) or to anyone in that car.
The mere mention or presence of a firearm alone cannot justify the use of deadly force.
The totality of the circumstances indicates that Officer Yanez's use of deadly force against Philando Castillo during the July 6th stop was not necessary, was objectively unreasonable, and was inconsistent with generally accepted police practices.
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[02:39:22] SESAY: Castile's death sparked protests across the U.S. If convicted, the officer could face up to 10 years in prison.
A quick break now. Some critics say that fake news stories on-line helped Donald Trump win the White House. How Facebook and Google are fighting the publishers of bogus stories.
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VAUSE: Facebook and Google are trying to stop fake news online. Critics say the tech giants inadvertently helped Donald Trump win the U.S. election by not doing enough to curb fake stories, many of which favored Donald Trump.
SESAY: Now the companies say they are cutting off a key source of revenue for phony websites.
VAUSE: Hemu Nigam joins us now. He's an internet security analyst and the founder and CEO of the online safety firm, SSP Blue.
Hemu, thank you for being with us.
SESAY: Good to have you with us.
VAUSE: Explain how these moves by Facebook and Google will reduce the amount of fake news out there.
HEMU NIGAM, INTERNET SECURITY ANALYST & FOUNDER, CEO, SSP BLUE: Well, Facebook will actually be removing links that go to fake news sites. There will be an impact on Facebook. Of course, the problem will be they will rely on their user base. The positive on that is the user base has been extremely active, saying this is fake, this is fake. So, Facebook does what they are supposed to or say they will, they will succeed.
Google is actually attacking the revenue source. They are saying, you are making money off of fake news. I'm not going to give you a cut of money I make on the ad but the reality is their algorithm picks it up. If I search for it, I will find it.
SESAY: That being said, if you search for it, in the case of Facebook, I have to flag it, how much difference will this make?
NIGAM: At the end of the day it will have to be, be cautious as a consumer. When you read something, figure out is it real, fake, partially fake, what part is real, which part is fake. These are the challenges we face which is why they are under attack right now.
VAUSE: Some of the big hoax stories: Clinton sold weapons to ISIS -- wrong. The pope endorsed Donald Trump -- wrong. A Democratic operative murdered after agreeing to testify against Hillary Clinton -- wrong.
So, what are the tell-tale signs of a fake news story?
NIGAM: The fact of the matter is, the companies doing this have gotten good at creating stories that look and feel real. I think if there's anything to be said, is actually watching stories like, for example, CNN will do a fact check and go through the stories. Those are the things to rely on to get your real news, which, in a strange way, what I'm really saying is maybe it is time go back to traditional media and say can we get the real news there versus on-line, or at least start Google searching, is this a real story, is it not, and start paying attention.
[02:45:34] VAUSE: Don't mistake your Google search for my journalism.
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SESAY: Yes.
Does this have implications for both of these companies?
NIGAM: It does now. It did in a positive way when it was first happening. Everyone was excited. The stories were hitting everywhere. Ad revenue would go up from it. But then users realized this is fake. And it has real societal impact, which is why we are talking about the election and how it resulted in it. Given that, now the counterbalance to that is, wait a minute, why do I want to place that is giving me fake news and I'm relying on it. That's a reputation issue for Google and Facebook to face. Given the reputation issue, that's a direct business --
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VAUSE: If I want fake news, I can got to FOX.
Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg says he doubts these fake news stories actually swayed the election outcome. But "Buzzfeed" looked at the analysis and found fake news stories generated more engagement than top stories from 19 major news outlets. Millions more people clicking on fake news stories than all of the mainstream media combined. That shows you the power these fake news stories could have.
NIGAM: Right. There is a definite direct revenue impact with fake news stories. The more you have, the more money you can make. The good thing for the public that wants real stories is that revenue impact is getting counterbalanced by the reputational negative impact and these businesses are starting to say, well, where does our moral compass lie? Do we want to take revenue from things that are not real and true and that are impacting real societal issues or take money from things that are true and tested and verified and true source for information?
SESAY: Nigam, always a pleasure. Thank you so much.
VAUSE: Thank you so much, Nigam.
SESAY: Great insight. Thank you.
Quick break now. China is in high gear to get driverless cars on its roads in the next two years. Coming up, CNN goes for a spin.
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[02:51:26] SESAY: Well, now we know. Bob Dylan won't be in Sweden next month to collect his Nobel Prize for literature. The Swedish Academy says the American singer and song writer feels honored but won't be able to attend the ceremony due to previous commitments.
VAUSE: What could that be?
SESAY: Washing his hair.
VAUSE: What would he be doing that would keep him away.
Dylan can collect his prize as long as he presents a Nobel lecture within six months.
That would be interesting, certainly need subtitles. Have you heard him talk lately?
SESAY: No, I haven't.
VAUSE: He mumbles a lot.
He's the first song writer ever -
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VAUSE: -- to ever win a Nobel Prize. As I said last hour, he will probably be the last.
SESAY: China jumped in to the driverless car race and is gunning for first place against Elon Musk's plans for Tesla.
VAUSE: Chinese tech giant is working to autonomous taxies and rental cars on the roads by 2018.
We sent Matt Rivers out for a spin.
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MATT RIVERS, CNN ASIA-PACIFIC EDITOR (voice-over): This is what it looks like --
(on camera): Let's go for a ride.
(voice-over): -- when you let a computer take the wheel.
(on camera): It's very bizarre.
(voice-over): This is the latest from Chinse tech giant Baidu, a self-driving car.
We zip down the road at 50 kilometers an hour, steered by a series of cameras, sensors and this spinning light arm. Think radar but with lasers.
WESLEY SHAO, SENIOR PROJECT ENGINEER, BAIDU: Continuously scanning and the result is showing run time with the pad on the back.
(on camera): What is it scanning for?
SHAO: It's looking for all the objects and anything that is detectable.
RIVERS (voice-over): That is Wesley Shao, a senior project engineer. When he says 3-D detectable he means anything that a human driver would see, like a traffic light.
(on camera): Reassuring that we see a red light and come to a slow safe stop.
(voice-over): This is a highly controlled course, no real surprises, no sudden slamming on the brakes. In order if this to work, he has to make unquestionably safe. Progress has been made but there's a long way to go.
SHAO: Our goal is to make it better than any human driver in the world.
RIVERS: This is Jing Wang.
(on camera): This is the break? JING WANG, BAIDU: Yes.
RIVERS (voice-over): -- he runs the project.
WANG: Within five years, we'll make at least one, only one.
RIVERS: Smaller, faster and safer.
WANG: We're trying very hard to show the real capability that driverless car is safer than a driver.
RIVERS: Convincing consumers use to control is a tall order, especially because driving in one of these is weird.
(on camera): This whole experience is odd because, on the one hand, it feels like any other driving experience you have ever had, but on the other hand, right now, the car is doing a U-turn on its own, and it's difficult to describe. It's bizarre and oddly normal at the same time.
(voice-over): But companies are betting big that people, like me, will get over their unease.
By 2021 big players like Uber, BMW and Ford say they will have their own self-driving cars on the road.
Baidu wants to begin to mass producing that same year, one of the largest investments they have ever made.
WANG: Most majority of the cars produce in that year will be autonomous, fully autonomous driving.
RIVERS: A glimpse in to the future, still lots of cars but drivers optional.
Matt Rivers, CNN, China.
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[02:55:07] VAUSE: Did you know that every car is a driverless car until a driver gets in.
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Thought I'd throw that out there.
OK, It seems fat shaming North Korea's Dear Leader is not going over well with government censors in China. A Chinese website has bought the phrase "Fatty Kim III." Apparently, that's a nickname for Kim Jong-Un on Chinese social media. That's not nice.
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SESAY: North Korean officials had reported complained to the Chinese government about the mocking but Beijing has not confirmed whether it ordered the ban of "Fatty Kim III." (LAUGHTER)
VAUSE: Sorry. OK.
SESAY: You are watching NEWSROOM, live from Los Angeles.
VAUSE: I'm John Vause.
SESAY: I'm Isha Sesay
VAUSE: Zain Asher is next.
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[03:00:12] ZAIN ASHER, CNN ANCHOR: New York bound. Shinzo Abe leaves for a meeting with Donald Trump --
