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A Total Electrical Failure For Lamia 2933; More Civilians Flee From War; World AIDS Day; Peace Deal For Colombia; North Korea Hit With Sanctions. Aired 3-4a ET

Aired December 01, 2016 - 03:00   ET

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[03:00:00] ROSEMARY CHURCH, CNN HOST: A total electrical failure. Audio recordings tell us about the final moments of the Colombia plane crash. CNN is at the site.

Plus, civilians fleeing Aleppo as the United Nations says the city is descending into hell.

And later, the AIDS epidemic is in the spotlight for World AIDS Day. We will look at new hopes for a vaccine and an easier way to get tested.

Hello and welcome to our viewers from all around the world. I'm Rosemary Church, and this is CNN NEWSROOM.

Family and fans of Brazil's Chapecoense football team are mourning the loss of the club's members killed in Monday's plane crash in Colombia. And now investigators have some new clues into what may have happened.

Shasta Darlington has more.

SHASTA DARLINGTON, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: New details emerging into what caused Lamia flight 2933 to crash just as it was about to descend in to Medellin, Colombia.

A Colombian radio station released a conversation between an air traffic controller and one of the pilots of the ill-fated flight. In the recording, the pilot is desperately telling the air traffic controller that the plane was experiencing total failure.

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DARLINGTON: Minutes later, another exchange.

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DARLINGTON: And then silence, those recordings now part of the investigation are sealed. Colombian authorities would not confirm their authenticity to CNN, but said the audio has some overlap with their investigation.

Lamia flight 2933 crashed just minutes away from reaching the runway, killing 71 on board. Many of the victims were players for Chapecoense, a Brazilian underdog soccer team that made it to the finals of one of South America's most prestigious soccer tournaments.

Family, friends, and fans ready to celebrate their team's possible victory now mourning their loss. Embracing one another visibly devastated.

Meanwhile, thousands of Chapecoense fans and friends packed stadiums in both Medellin where their first tournament game was to be held and Chapeco, the team's home town, remembering their beloved team in death just as they celebrated them in life, cheering them on.

Shasta Darlington, CNN, Medellin, Colombia.

CHURCH: And Geoffrey Thomas is the editor in chief of Airlineratings.com. He joins me now from Perth, Australia. Good to talk to you again. So, we heard that terrifying conversation moments before the crash. Crew member telling air traffic controllers the plane was in total electrical failure and without fuel. Talk to us about how this does further the investigation.

GEOFFREY THOMAS, AIRLINERATINGS.COM EDITOR-IN-CHIEF: Look, indeed it's a little bit more information about the situation at the very end of the flight. What we don't yet understand is why they were out of fuel.

Now, what we've learned in the last 24 hours is that previous flights offered by this airline had in fact stopped, made a fuel stop at a place called Cobija in northern Bolivia. Now because of scheduling issues related to this particular flight, the takeoff was much later than anticipated and Cobija was not available because it doesn't have runway lights.

So the flight plan was to do it in one leg, which was at roughly the limits of the range of the aircraft. Now we don't know the detail of exactly the performance of this particular plane but going on the published numbers, it's broadly at the limit of the aircraft.

[03:05:08] But then they now overlaid on that we have to consider did the pilots get the flight level they want? Were they kept lower because of air traffic? Did they have to avoid a lot of thunderstorms?

Maybe there was a few link -- few leak on the aircraft or malfunctioning fuel gauges that led them to a situation where they ran out of fuel. That's, of course this part we'll have to wait for the copy of voice recorders and the data, digital flight data recorder, data to come through.

CHURCH: And of course from any of these sorts of plane crashes, we all hope to learn more so that we can prevent them from happening again. Why take the risk of having just enough fuel to make it? It doesn't seem the thing to do, does it?

THOMAS: Well, absolutely it doesn't seem to be the thing to do. I would be extremely surprised if they did take that sort of risk. I'm sure they did not. But if they were kept lower than they were expecting as far as the altitude is concerned. They couldn't get to a higher altitude where it is more fuel efficient. If the headwinds were stronger than forecast.

I mean, we may have had a situation where a domino effect of things that added up and added up and all of a sudden have found themselves in an awkward situation. And because we've had situations before, Rosemary, where there has been a fuel leak on the aircraft. And all of a sudden, you know, you got a serious problem.

CHURCH: Geoffrey Thomas, thank you to so much for sharing your expertise in this area. We certainly appreciate it.

THOMAS: Pleasure.

CHURCH: Well, the Chapecoense team was due to play in its biggest match ever Wednesday night in Medellin. Instead thousands of heart broken fans gathered to honor those who were killed. Some surviving team mates were there as well.

And here is Don Riddell with that.

DON RIDDELL, CNN WORLD SPORT ANCHOR: You could easily mistake this for a celebration, the flares, the cheering, the chanting but the true story of Chapecoense is very, very different.

From the loyal club server, who, for 25 years laid out the shirts for his players in the locker room. To the father who lost his son on his birthday, to the wives and girlfriends, the families and fans, this club is absolutely heartbroken.

On Wednesday night, some 20,000 of the team's loyal supporters gathered here at the stadium to honor their fallen players, teammates, comrades, a mass being held on the center circle. An incredibly emotional time for everybody involved. People are in tears. People are hugging and trying to console each other and trying to make some kind of sense of this most unspeakable and untimely tragedy.

Throughout the day, the players and their loved ones have been gathering inside the stadium. We spoke with one of them. The goalkeeper, Nivaldo, he was bereft.

His sister was consoling him touching his arm throughout the interview as he tries to make sense of it. And he said having played for the team for 10 years through thick and thin who just doesn't know how it's possible to go on.

NIVALDO CONSTANTE, CHAPACOENSE GOALKEEPER (TRANSLATED): I don't know why he didn't want to take me. That was in his head and it was my destiny. I have this dual feeling of being alive today, but deep in my heart, what if I had gone?

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RIDDELL: The surviving members of this club say they will meet in December to try and plan the way forward. They will appoint a new president and try to begin the daunting task of rebuilding this club. But before that, the much more important task of bringing their loved ones home. Dozens of players, managers and coaches, physios, medical staff, and directors perished in Colombia, the team say they would like to bring them back to the stadium here so the fans can pay their respects.

They need to consult with the families to get their permission but that is the wish of the club. And once these awful days have passed then the team can think about the future. But at the moment it really is one very small step at a time.

Don Riddell, CNN, Chapeco, Brazil.

[03:09:58] CHURCH: Well, Colombia's government has approved an historic peace deal with the country's Marxist rebel group, the FARC.

Wednesday's night vote in Congress would officially end a 52-year Civil War which has claimed hundreds of thousands of lives. Voters narrowly rejected an earlier version of the deal back in October. The rebels now have 150 days to lay down their arms.

The U.N. says what Syrian civilians are enduring in eastern Aleppo is a slow-motion descent into hell. Air strikes are pounding the city and rebels are firing back.

The U.N. is pleading for access to deliver aid. The Russian Defense Ministry said a key supply route into Aleppo is now clear, but no one has asked to use it.

A U.N. official says Castello road does not go to the paths of eastern Aleppo where people need the most help. Some are using primitive cars to carry out wounded relatives and their few belongings as they flee the fighting.

Muhammad Lila is tracking developments from Istanbul. He joins us now live. So, Muhhammad, what more are you learning about what exactly is happening on the ground in eastern Aleppo right now?

MUHAMMAD LILA, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, Rosemary, according to activists and the government, the fighting continues this morning. Activists in eastern Aleppo say there have already been a number of air strikes targeting a number of neighborhoods.

And of course the fighting on the ground continues as well. Most of the fighting centered in a neighborhood called Sheikh Sa'eed which is critical for the government strategy to retake all of eastern Aleppo. The rebels says they were able to hold off the government offensive in that neighborhood.

But the government on the other hand says no, they were able to recover that entire neighborhood and make it stable again. Of course, you have the rebels saying one thing, the government saying another very difficult to independently verify what's happening on the ground.

And like, so often in these situations the truth may be somewhere in the middle. And of course, while the fighting is happening on the ground there's also a lot of verbal sparring happening in the world of diplomacy.

We know that late last night Turkish leader Erdogan initiated a phone call with Vladimir Putin. We don't know the details of the phone call, but we know that they discussed opening an emergency humanitarian corridor into eastern Aleppo.

And of course, late yesterday there was also this emergency U.N. Security Council meeting that really descended in to a match or a battle of accusations. The U.S. ambassador saying Russia are lying about what's happening. The French foreign minister coming out and saying that this could be the worst civilian massacre since the end of World War II.

And to that, Russia firing back and saying, well, the U.S. is responsible for all of this because of the invasion of Iraq in 2003. So, the fighting is going on the ground. The fighting is going on in the diplomatic world. And while all of that is going on, the people in eastern Aleppo continue to suffer.

CHURCH: And Muhammad, just very quickly, what is the Syrian regime's ultimate goal for eastern Aleppo?

LILA: Well, their ultimate goal for eastern Aleppo and in fact, Bashar al-Assad has said this for the entire country is to recapture every inch of the country. However, unrealistic or however difficult that might be. Eastern Aleppo is turning out to what maybe the rebel's last stand. And that's why it is so strategic for the Syrian government to be able to retake it to either kill the remaining rebels or force them to surrender or essentially starve them to death.

And that's why we're seeing this movement. It's a slow, pinching, encroachment movement where the government is moving in very calculated and very slowly to eventually retake all of eastern Aleppo.

The big question is what happens to all of the civilians there who don't support the Syrian government? Will they be free to stay? Will there be reprisals, will there be revenge attacks? And that's what, that's a very real fear and no one really knows how that is going to play out in the next coming weeks.

CHURCH: Indeed. So many concerns there. Muhammad Lila, joining us live from Istanbul where it is nearly 11.15 in the morning. I appreciate that live report.

Well, his name is emblazoned on buildings around the world but Donald Trump says he is walking away from his real estate empire. Why some critics are skeptical. That is next.

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CHURCH: Donald Trump says it is more important for him to make America great again than to keep running Trump industries. So, he is making plans to walk away from his global businesses before his inauguration in January. But it's not clear exactly how he will do it.

CNN's Jim Acosta has the details. JIM ACOSTA, CNN SENIOR WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT: Under growing

pressure to sever his ties with his real estate empire, Donald Trump took to Twitter, not to start a new controversy, but to try to end one. Announcing, "I will be holding a major news conference in New York City with my children on December 15th to discuss the fact that I will be leaving my great business in total in order to futurely focus on running the country."

That declaration comes just one week after he pointed out presidents are technically exempt from government conflict of interest laws.

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DONALD TRUMP, UNITED STATES PRESIDENT-ELECT: In theory I don't have to do anything, but I would like to try and formalize something, because I don't care about my business.

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ACOSTA: Still, after pledging to defend the working classes, the candidate the president-elect is assembling a team that's a lot like himself, rich, tapping financier Steven Mnuchin to be treasury secretary. Billionaire Wilbur Ross for commerce, the co-owner of the Chicago Cubs Todd Ricketts is deputy of that department, and another billionaire, Betsy DeVos at education.

Mnuchin, along with incoming White House chief strategist Steve Bannon both worked at Goldman Sachs.

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TRUMP: It's a global power structure that is responsible for the economic decisions that have robbed our working class.

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ACOSTA: The same Wall Street powerhouse whose CEO was featured in Trump's closing campaign ad on the special interests harming American workers. Mnuchin is highlighting his past as a banker.

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STEVE MNUCHIN, U.S. TREASURY SECRETARY NOMINEE: Let me first say, what I've really been focused on is being a regional banker for the last eight years. And I know what it takes to make sure that we can make loans to small and mid-market companies.

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ACOSTA: Democratic Senator Elizabeth Warren blasted out a statement slamming Mnuchin as the Forest Gump of the financial crisis. "He spends two decades at Goldman Sachs helping the bank peddle the same kind of mortgage products that blew up the economy."

Trump is considering another well-known millionaire, 2012 GOP nominee Mitt Romney for secretary of state. CNN observed the two men as they appeared to put their bitter past behind them.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Mr. President-elect, are we looking at the next secretary of state right here?

TRUMP: Well, we're going to see what happens.

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ACOSTA: After once calling Trump a fraud, Romney was singing the president elect's praises.

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MITT ROMNEY, FORMER U.S. PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: It's not easy winning. I know that myself. He did something I tried to do and was unsuccessful on accomplishing. He won the general election.

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ACOSTA: Trump is now posting another victory, his deal to keep hundreds of jobs at a Carrier air conditioner factory in Indiana from fleeing to Mexico.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Well, it's a great present for the president. Here we have a trade victory before we even come in to office.

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ACOSTA: It was a promise delivered for Trump, who had threatened to punish the manufacturer as a candidate.

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TRUMP: Carrier, congratulations. Enjoy your stay in Mexico. Every unit you make 35 percent tax. Have a good time.

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ACOSTA: Jim Acosta, CNN, New York.

CHURCH: Joining me now to discuss all this is democratic strategist, Tharon Johnson, and republican strategist Brian Robinson. Great to have you both in the studio again.

[03:19:58] So, let's start with Carrier. Because the company says incentives offered by the state were part of the consideration to stay. So, Tharon, to you, what do you think is behind this deal and can we expect more of this from Donald Trump?

THARON JOHNSON, DEMOCRATIC STRATEGIST: Well, this is very interesting. You know, Donald Trump spent his entire campaign saying that he was a businessman and that he wanted to restore the economy. And it's very interesting that he is taking a lot of credit for this deal. I think what's very interesting is that let's really figure out, you know, what he plans to do as president.

I think at a time when American people want to restore the economy this was clearly a good gesture towards that effort. But I think ultimately he is taking a lot of credit for this deal and I think there's a lot of critics that say that this is something that was being built upon before he actually became the president-elect.

CHURCH: Brian, I wanted to ask you, because, of course, the president-elect is assembling his team right now. And what we are seeing is establishment republicans, millionaires and billionaires and more and more links to Goldman Sachs.

BRIAN ROBINSON, REPUBLICAN STRATEGIST: Yes.

CHURCH: So, a lot of people are saying what happened to this promise that you would drain the swamp? And you know, particularly throughout the election he talked about all of the bad things of Wall Street, and yet what we seeing?

ROBINSON: I don't think you are seeing any hypocrisy here on his part. I think you see highly qualified people getting put into these positions. People who have shown they know how to make money. They know how to make businesses work. And that's the kind of people that we want at the top of our federal government.

I don't think that this is a contradiction of the drain the swamp promise. Because these aren't lobbyists. These are people from industry. And at the end of the day we all are.

JOHNSON: Listen, this is nothing more than Donald Trump appointing his billionaire friends. I mean, if you look at every single appointment that he's made from Ben Carson on up to his senior advisers and chief of staff, these are all people who lack the experience in federal government to move the country forward.

Now let's go back to his education pick. I mean, this is a woman who's a billionaire who basically has spent her whole entire life trying to defund public education. I truly believe that most Americans, whether you are white, black, democrat, or republican, you support fully funding public education because that's something that is really the heartbeat of our democracy here.

CHURCH: Donald Trump has also said he's vowed to leave his business, in his words, in total. What does that mean exactly? How is that going to work, Brian?

ROBINSON: Well, I hope what it means is that he is going to follow the advice of lawyers and put it into a blind trust. At the same time, I understand...

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CHURCH: It doesn't sound like that's what's going to happen.

ROBINSON: I think we may have to wait until December 15th.

CHURCH: Yes.

ROBINSON: As he said, he said at the debate he wants to make it a surprise, you know, will surprise us at the time. So we'll figure out on the 15th what his plan is. But I don't think that most of his voters are going to be completely upset if he doesn't put it to a blind trust.

They give him a lot of leeway, such as not demanding that he release his income taxes. So he's been given a lot of margin in that way and he may continue to take advantage of that.

CHURCH: But there are so many problems, aren't there, with his business, with him working directly with his business, even having his children working with his business and then his foreign policy. It calls in to question so many things. Tharon, your reaction to that.

JOHNSON; Well, the challenge is this, OK, Brian also talked a lot about his base of supporters. Let's just take a deep breath and realize that, OK, Donald Trump is going to be the next president of the United States.

But guess what, he is not going to be able to only represent his base. He's got to represent the American people. And the American people do not support having companies that you are doing overseas business with, where you are actually in the process of formulating deals which your children are actually at the head of the table and then actually mixing the two and allowing your daughter and your sons to be in conversations with prime ministers.

And at a time when you are encouraging people to stay at your hotels and play at your golf courses and promising them incentives, that's the problem.

CHURCH: I do want to move to Michigan. The recount there that's taking place. Because Donald Trump did win the thinnest of margins, what, 10,000 votes or so and there is a recount that will take place on the weekend. And that's been spearheaded by Green candidate Jill Stein.

I just want to listen for a moment to what a cybersecurity expert had to say about that.

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J. ALEX HALDERMAN, CYBERSECURITY EXPERT: This is the first time that we're going to have a multi-state recount for the purposes of making sure we can be confident in the outcome of a presidential election.

America's voting technology, unfortunately, suffers from severe cybersecurity vulnerabilities. I know because in my research over the past 10 years, I personally have hacked many of the kinds of voting machines that are used in this country.

(END VIDEO CLIP) CHURCH: Now of course, there is this concern because there was so

many incidents of hacking before the election. And now a lot of people are saying well, what's going on here? Because there are strange things afoot and maybe this recount is necessary, maybe not.

[03:25:04] Brian, you start off with that. What's your response to that fear of the possibility of some sort of hacking having taken place?

ROBINSON: You know, the Obama administration itself has said that there was no hacking our election. That's the Obama administration. We have had official after official before the election say that Donald Trump would be irresponsible and he would hurt our democracy if he questioned the legitimacy of our electoral process.

That is exactly what the left is doing in this particular situation. They are being utterly hypocritical when it comes to this. There, you know, recounts matter when the margin is hundreds of votes, not it's when tens of thousands, even 10,000 is a really big margin in election recount.

It's all on computers now. It's not by hand. There's not much need for too many recounts because it is computerized. So, it is irresponsible to question the legitimacy of our election.

CHURCH: Tharon?

JOHNSONL What Brian is failing to realize in the state to our viewers is that his candidate, who now, you know, will be president and represents the Republican Party spent the last two months of the campaign complaining that there was a rigged system.

He was the one that was saying, hey, we need to make sure people are not going in two and three times of voting. We need to question the voter machines. And so, it is the fundamental right. It's the democracy that we live in America for any candidate, he or she who is run for office to demand a recount.

You look at Michigan, I mean, 10,000 votes. This is the difference between you know, 10 or 15 to 20 electoral votes in some states. So, I think it's the democratic in their thing to do and to make sure that we make sure that voters feel that all of their votes were counted correctly.

CHURCH: Brian Robinson, Tharon Johnson, many thanks for having you both here again.

ROBINSON: Thank you, Rosemary.

CHURCH: All right. We'll take a very short break here. But still to come, a defiant North Korea is being hit with tough new sanctions and is about to pay a high price for its nuclear and missile tests. We'll explain with a live report when we come back.

[03:30:00] (COMMERCIAL BREAK) CHURCH: A warm welcome back to our viewers all around the world. I'm

Rosemary Church. I want to update you now on the main stories we've been following this hour.

The plane that crashed in Colombia Monday was apparently low on fuel and had lost electrical power. That comes from an audio recording between a crew member and air traffic control moments before the plane went down.

Thousands of fans paid tribute on Wednesday to the Brazilian football team members killed in that crash. Seventy one people died, six survived.

The suspects in the foiled attack on the U.S. embassy in the Philippine capital wanted to become members of ISIS. Manila's police chief says they hope to be accepted by the militants by exploding a bomb that caused heavy damage and casualties. Two suspects are in custody. Police are looking for three others.

North Korea is now facing its most severe sanctions yet. The U.N. Security Council voted unanimously Wednesday to punish Pyongyang for its nuclear test. The new sanctions target officials, companies and exports North Korea uses to fund its missile programs.

And Saima Mohsin joins us now from Seoul with more on this. So, Saima, what has changed in terms of sanctions, and will it work this time?

SAIMA MOHSIN, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, Rosemary, they are being dubbed the most stringent sanctions yet. Of course they are increasing the economic sanctions, in particular, targeting North Korea's coal exports. That's the bulk of their revenue that comes from exports.

They want to cut that by 62 percent, which basically amounts to around $700 million worth a year. And crucially, this time around, sanctions (TECHNICAL PROBLEM) trying to spoke vehemently at the U.N. Security Council yesterday that it was on board to implement the sanctions because China is North Korea's biggest customer.

Of course, President-elect Donald Trump has previously mentioned how he wants to use China to influence North Korea. So, a big change but a lot of watchers are saying economic sanctions simply won't work. Kim Jong-un is still committed to his nuclear proliferation. Rosemary?

CHURCH: And really, Saima, are there any other options? Is this all that the U.N. has, sanctions?

MOHSIN: Well, it's all the U.N. has repeatedly used. And people keep talking, watchers and analysts that I speak to here in South Korea say that this is just a vicious cycle that we see.

North Korea fires a ballistic missiles or detonates a nuclear warhead and we see in return U.N. sanctions.

Well, one associate professor at Yonsei University, John Delury told me that he thinks it's direct talks with Kim Jong-un himself, not the six-party talks we've seen tried and failed before that are needed to make the difference. Let's take a listen.

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JOHN DELURY, YONSEI UNIVERSITY PROFESSOR: No head of state has sat in a room with Kim Jong-un. We thought Kim Jong-il was crazy until people started meeting him Kin Jong-il. When high-level people including the American secretary of state sat down with Kim Jong-il they were shocked because they discovered the guy was not nuts.

In fact, he was well briefed and there was flexibility in his negotiating positions. We are repeating the same problem with the son, Kim Jong-un.

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MOHSIN: And let's not forget that President-elect Donald Trump has said that he is open to sitting down and talking to Kim Jong-un. Remember, he even said, hey, I could have a hamburger with him instead of a state dinner but I'll certainly entertain him. So, with the new president in the White House next year let's see what happens, Rosemary.

CHURCH: We shall have to wait and see for sure. Saima Mohsin, joining us there, live from Seoul in South Korea just after 5.30 in the afternoon.

Well, now to the Freedom Project. CNN's special series on human trafficking. A nonprofit group in the U.S. is focusing its work on would-be predators.

As Robyn Curnow reports they could see their phone numbers revealed on the internet and given to police.

ROBYN CURNOW, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Sexual predators lurking behind their computer screens are no longer as hidden as they think.

[03:35:03] YouthSpark, a non-profit that provide services to trafficking victims recently launched a new initiative that tackles the lesser discussed side of the trafficking problem, demand.

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ALEX TROUTEAUD, YOUTHSPARK EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR: When every day you are serving youth who've been sexually exploited, at some point you sit back and say, what's causing this? Because it's nothing wrong with the kids.

We really felt like we owed it to the youth that we work with to work upstream a little bit and start doing what we can as an NGO, to address the exploitation that they were being faced with.

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CURNOW: Demand tracker is simple, an employee posts ads online offering juveniles up for sex. Unlike the other ads on sites like this, hers are decoys and the models, all adults, agreed to pose for them.

She clicks, posts and waits. But when a would-be predator calls or texts the number in the ads demand tracker automatically adds the number to a public, searchable database. The caller is also sent a text message letting them know their number is being identified and is available to law enforcement.

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TROUTEAUD: Guys get involved in this bad behavior, they start somewhere. If the first time you do that you realize, whoa, someone is watching and I'm going to be held accountable for this and law enforcement are paying attention. That's the kind of message that we think will educate men to change their track real fast.

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CURNOW: In the four months that demand tracker has been operational it has recorded 12,000 unique numbers. The system does have its limitations. It can identify phone numbers but not who places the calls and it can't separate intentional calls from misdials.

If someone wants their number removed from the public phasing list there is a button on the site that allows them to do that but the number still remains in the database itself.

Trouteaud says police are mainly concerned with numbers that show up multiple times as these are likely not accidental. It's not perfect but many in law enforcement see it as a great start to tackling demand.

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DALIA RACINE, DEKALB COUNTY GEORGIA DISTRICT ATTORNEY: It may not be something that we could use in a particular case, but I think it is good to help with pushing legislation to make tougher laws against the purchasers. It could help in bringing together training curriculum on how to track purchasers by looking at their patterns and their habits.

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CURNOW: It also sends a clear message to predators.

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RACINE: We are coming after the demand side just as hard as we are after the exploiters and after the supply side of this issue. And you are no longer going to be safe behind those keyboards. We are going to find you and we are going to prosecute you.

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CURNOW: Robyn Curnow, CNN, Atlanta.

CHURCH: And tomorrow the CNN Freedom Project will introduce you to a group of students running an endurance race to save the lives of trafficking victims.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: For 24 hours, teams of eight from Hong Kong- based schools will run continuous relay laps. A bold mission to raise awareness of modern-day slavery and money to fight human trafficking.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Slowly I started to go to my home roots and when I found more about the problem of interstate in India and how it manifests in different forms, I felt really bad.

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CHURCH: That's tomorrow right here on CNN at 1 a.m. in New York, 2 p.m. in Hong Kong.

It is World AIDS Day. How a self-administered test might help lower infection rates. We will explain when we come back.

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CHURCH: Welcome back, everyone.

Well, the father of a severely autistic teen launched a global plea to find his son's favorite sippy cup and the response was amazing. Ben Carter has been drinking from the two-handled cup since he was a toddler and refuses to use anything else, even if it means he becomes dehydrated.

Now his dad went to Twitter for help when he realized Ben's old cup was out of production. His tweets caught the attention of the manufacturers and they have tracked down the design and have agreed to make 500 cups for the teenager. Isn't that great?

Well, the real Santa Claus of course is getting ready for his big night. In the meantime, though, more Santas are listening to requests from children and for that job they need the right outfit, a merry personality and the proper Santa education.

CNN's money team found out that it's hard work to be a mall Santa.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Welcome to the ultimate Christmas in July. Santa University. A four-day training camp in Colorado where professional Santas come to hone their craft.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It's more of a calling than it is a job.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And a little boy with no hesitation said that's Santa Claus.

She said your nose, your nose is like a cherry. That's when I knew that I probably work Santa Claus.

(END VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Spreading holiday cheer is serious business. It takes the right look, months of dedication and more hair care products than you'd expect.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: That all the women say it's miracle stuff.

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: But aside from some extra hold air spray, what does it take to be the perfect professional Santa? The experts all had the same answer.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You got to have that Christmas love.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Having the curing heart.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: First the heart and then all of the other things will fall in to place.

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Heart is something that can't be taught, but the rest of it, that's why Noerr Program put Santa University together in the first place. Every year the Santas come together to train at the company's headquarters called, you guessed it, the Noerr pole.

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JUDY NOERR, NOERR PROGRAMS CHIEF EXECUTIVE OFFICER: People are amazed that there are four days of classes for Santa University but it's true. We have everything from ethics of Santa, how to dress and look your best. How to stay healthy as a Santa and many, many more thing.

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Classes teach everything from beard grooming, to suit fitting to sign language. There are charity toy drives and sing- along. It's four days of fun and festivities then when the holidays roll around these guys are all Santa all the time.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I work at Orleans Square mall about 30 miles southwest of Chicago. And I'm from Duluth, Georgia, that's about 750- mile trip every year. It's a very demanding job if you do it like you should do it. We are on the set many hours a day. So you pretty much sleep, eat and work and you want to stay focused so that you can be all you can be when you are on the set. And be there for the children.

And if you are at home, you allow too many other distractions. And so, by traveling I feel I can stay focused at what I'm doing. (END VIDEO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: For these Santas, the months of preparation and work are worth it. For them, being Santa Claus in the eyes of a child is the ultimate gift.

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[03:45:04] UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I get far more than I unfortunately can give.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: If you can say anything every day to try to uplift a child and their family then you go home with some accomplishment.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We all want one thing, the joy and happiness for children. I'm a part of a child's fantasy. What greater opportunity.

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CHURCH: That is true job satisfaction, right? We'll be right back. Stay with us.

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CHURCH: Today is World AIDS Day. And decades after its discovery, HIV is still a major global public health issue. The World Health Organization says the disease has claimed more than 35 million lives. About 37 million people were living with HIV at the end of last year.

And more than 18 million people are receiving anti-retroviral therapy.

In the last 15 years, new HIV infections have fallen by 35 percent and AIDS-related deaths have fallen by 28 percent. Now there's a glimmer of hope.

David McKenzie has details now of a promising trial in South Africa.

DAVID MCKENZIE, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Just one pill. That's all patients' important need. A far cry from the cocktail of drugs just a few years ago. But no matter how good the treatment becomes, for this mother and daughter, the impact of HIV is permanent.

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I went out to school and when I lived there she was five and when I came back she was not here and they told me she was in the hospital and she had a stroke.

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MCKENZIE: Four strokes, complications of the virus crippled patients, it crippled her family.

The words are a struggle. Her pain unmistakable. The massive rollout of anti-retro virals saved thousands of lives but the epidemic still rages on. Worldwide it's estimated an adolescent becomes newly infected every two minutes.

Luyanda Ngcobo's HIV was passed on from his mother at birth. He is part of a generation of young people that must take drugs their entire lives.

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LUYANDA NGCOBO, ACTIVIST: I'm a human being. Why am I not like the other kids? Why am I sick all the time in?

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[03:50:00] MCKENZIE: These neighborhoods not everyone knows who is on anti-retro virals. But it is estimated in South Africa more than three million people are on HIV drugs. That's the most in the world and it's a massive health burden.

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LINDA-GAIL BEKKER, SOUTH AFRICA DESMOND TUTU HIV CENTRE DEPUTY DIRECTOR: You need to take the drug absolutely every single day. That is a tall order for a young person.

MCKENZIE: Linda-Gail Bekker runs a research center in the heart of Gugulethu Township. She says AIDS is the number one killer of young people here.

BEKKER: Simply ultimately want control of this epidemic, we are going to need to control the numbers of people becoming infected. And there is no better way, no more sustainable way, than having a prophylactic vaccine. It's the holy grail of epidemic control.

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MCKENZIE: But the virus is complex. For 30 years while treatment has improved, a vaccine remained out of reach until now.

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BEKKER: We've seen immune responses that make us very optimistic. So, I think we are, you know, rightfully and justifiably feeling optimistic.

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MCKENZIE: Fanning out into the hardest-hit communities, volunteers are being recruited for the first major vaccine trial in nearly a decade.

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We share jokes together, we laugh together, we debate together, we always arguing. We like to watching TV and making our own stories up.

(END VIDEO CLIP) MCKENZIE: The treatment saved her mother's life, but Titila (Ph) doesn't want anyone to suffer like her mother. She, herself, is HIV negative. So she volunteered to participate in the initial study that cleared the way for the landmark vaccine trial.

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You get to be the super hero you want to be. You get to bring change in many people's lives just by you do like -- you doing this can help a thousand more people out there. You're doing this can create a HIV free generation.

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MCKENZIE: Too late for her generation, but now hope for the next.

David McKenzie, CNN, Gugulethu, South Africa.

CHURCH: Well, Europe could soon be dealing with not one but two political crises with separate votes in Italy and Austria. A constitutional referendum in Italy could help the leader of an anti- establishment party, you see here on the left, and the politician seen on the right could become Austria's next president. Now he would be the first European far right head of state since the end of World War II.

Brexit and the election of Donald Trump were major political upsets reflecting the rise of populism.

Our Nic Robertson explains what this means for the future of the European Union.

NIC ROBERTSON, CNN INTERNATIONAL DIPLOMATIC EDITOR: First, Farage then Trump did the unexpected rode a tied of populism for old triumph. So how did it happen and what could come next?

Anger at the establishment over immigration and the economy battled up since the financial crushed of 2008. The feeling for many, Europe is flooded with migrants from Syria and other wars. Jobs tough to find. Wages slow to rise. Politicians tone deaf to it all.

Trump used Farage's Brexit success to help to oxygenate his own presidential campaign. Combined they could spark a chain reaction and blow the lid of Europe's increasingly fragile 28-member union.

In the next 12 months, 75 percent of the euro area voters will go to the polls. Populism will be tested. Austria's Norbert Hofer, the anti- E.U. ultra nationalist took 35 percent of the nation's first round presidential vote.

Since then, U.K./U.S. results have buoyed his second round chances.

Italian P.M. Matteo Renzi called a referendum on political reforms. He's seen his party's popularity plunged to anti-E.U. leftist. The pro- E.U. P.M. says he'll quit if he loses. In Germany, Chancellor Angela Merkel's popularity is riding the storm.

Her open-door migrant policy and economic bailouts for some E.U. members has deepened European divisions. For now she is 50 percent, declaring she'll run for leadership in 2017.

And in France, Front National leader and presidential candidate Marine Le Pen claims Trump's victory is energizing her own populous message. Le Pen's popularity is on an upswing. Now, expected to win the first round presidential vote next year. If she wins the 2017 elections, she'd take France out of the E.U. 'Frexit' likely collapsing the 23- year-old institution.

[03:55:05] So, where to from here in a Europe awash with uncertainty, one certainty has risen to the top, Farage and Trump have shaken up the establishment. No telling yet if it will all boil over.

Nic Robertson, CNN, London.

CHURCH: All right. Thanks so much for joining us. I'm Rosemary Church. And remember to connect with me anytime on Twitter @rosemarycnn. I'd love to hear from. And the news continues with Max Foster next. You have yourselves a great day.

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MAX FOSTER, CNN ANCHOR: Fans gather to mourn their football heroes from Brazil as new information emerges about how the plane carrying the team crashed.

A warning from the U.N. as desperate pleas grow louder over eastern Aleppo. Aid is only trickling in. We'll bring you a live report coming up.

And Donald Trump promises to separate his business from the people's business. The questions remain about potential conflicts of interest.

Thanks for joining us. I'm Max Foster in London. This is CNN NEWSROOM.

Well, as Brazil and Colombia grieve for the victims of flight 2933, new clues are emerging about what might have brought the plane down.

And audio recording between the pilot and air traffic control points to the total failure of both electricity and fuel.

Shasta Darlington has more.

[04:00:06] DARLINGTON: New details emerging into what cause Lamia flight 2933 to crash just as it was about to descend into Medellin, Colombia.