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Crime and Justice With Ashleigh Banfield
Execution-Style Killing Caught on Video; Teen Kills Dad to Protect Mom; Markeith Loyd Disrupts Court Again; Cops Arrest Mom for Booze Filled Sex Fest; Tourist Boat Riles Up Gator; Hero Cop Pulls Woman from Burning Car; House Arrest in Mansion. Aired 8-9p ET
Aired January 23, 2017 - 20:00 ET
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[20:00:00] ASHLEIGH BANFIELD, HLN HOST (voice-over): Fifteen seconds of cold-blooded killing captured on camera. The terror sends a woman running
for her life.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: (INAUDIBLE) execution.
BANFIELD: Now the manhunt begins for the killer who pulled the trigger execution-style more than a dozen times.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: To kill somebody with 13 shots, you are a coward!
(BEGIN AUDIO CLIP)
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: She just shot my husband in the (EXPLETIVE DELETED) head!
BANFIELD: Just 15 years old, is this the face of a hero or a heartless murderer?
BRANDI MEADOWS, MOTHER OF BRESHA MEADOWS: She`s my hero, our hero.
BANFIELD: Mom says the girl shot her dad after they suffered abuse for years.
MEADOWS: I wasn`t strong enough to get out, and she helped us all!
BANFIELD: But not everyone in the family thinks she`s a saint.
Mouthing off to the judge again!
MARKEITH LOYD, ACCUSED COP KILLER: Ain`t no Markeith Loyd. Who are you?
BANFIELD: Suspected cop killer Markeith Loyd makes another dramatic appearance.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: ... aggravated assault...
LOYD: Lady in the black dress, may I have your name, please?
BANFIELD: (INAUDIBLE) facing death for causing so much of it. The killer digs himself yet another hole.
One by one, teenagers step forward and say they, too, got booze and had sex with a classmate`s mom inside their home while the child watched!
Race against time, a hero cop tries to bash the window of a burning car, a woman trapped inside. Will the glass break in time? Will she be pulled
out alive?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We got you!
BANFIELD: From the dumb criminals file, if stealing a car, don`t leave your dentures behind.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You can reach out and slap him, can`t you?
BANFIELD: Ever wonder if alligator tourism is a dumb idea?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Did you notice?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes!
(LAUGHTER)
BANFIELD: Wait until you see how this turned out.
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BANFIELD: Hello, everyone. I`m Ashleigh Banfield. Welcome to PRIMETIME JUSTICE.
We`ve got breaking news tonight. There is a manhunt for a killer on the loose, and not just any killer, one with no sense of mercy and seemingly no
fear. You hear about brazen crimes in daylight all the time, but you rarely see them, not like this anyway.
First the subject of the manhunt -- Trace Walker, believed to have hunted down his victim and shot him execution-style 13 times at close range. The
victim and his girlfriend had no idea what was coming as they approached their car after shopping at a fish market near Fort Lauderdale.
I`m going to walk you through this surveillance video, but first do need to warn you, it is graphic. You`re about to see Gary Wallock and his
girlfriend walk out of the fish market. Everything seems fine. There they are together. They`re headed towards their car. There they are at their
car. And on the left-hand side of your screen, you`re about to see the killer as he runs up to them and just lets loose, firing endlessly.
Mr. Wallock is killed right there on the spot. He doesn`t stand a chance. The shooter stands over him and keeps on firing, his terrified girlfriend -
- look at her -- running for her life. But she`s not safe, either because the shooter then stands up and fires at her several times before he himself
takes off running.
No one knows at this point why Mr. Wallock was targeted like this. His family understandably is devastated.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I got to go bury my son. It`s hard. It`s very, very hard. I can`t deal with it. I can`t cope with it.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The suspect stands over our victim. As you can see, he -- he fires more rounds into our victim at point-blank range, which clearly
indicates this was a clear-cut execution.
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BANFIELD: Joining me now, former prosecutor Jonna Spilbor, defense attorney Jan Ronis and defense attorney and CNN legal analyst Danny
Cevallos.
But first, I want to check in with Karen Curtis, who is a news anchor at WFTL. She joins me now from Boynton Beach, Florida.
Karen, this video is just remarkable. They know who they`re looking for, but they don`t have him. How do they know who it is?
KAREN CURTIS, WFTL: It`s been a week, and they`re looking for 26-year-old Trace Walker. I asked the PIO and the detective tonight, Did the
girlfriend tell you who this shooter is, this alleged shooter, or did you determine it from the video? And they said, We don`t want to tip our hand
on how we know that this arrest warrant has been issued for Trace Walker.
And as you can see, he opened fire on two individuals. Fortunately, the girlfriend fell down, and he missed her. But he fired 25 shots, or
allegedly, at Mr. Wallock.
BANFIELD: It`s remarkable to see this play out with so many different angles. It is truly just a targeted execution, the number of times he
fired at close range at that victim. Look at the girlfriend. She doesn`t know what to do.
There`s another video, she runs out of the frame, and it shows her continuing to run as he fires. You`re right, Karen, she trips, and that
may have saved her life. She tripped on one of those parking barricades.
[20:05:04]I want to get that video up, if we can, to show how as she was running off -- the video shows that she may have survived because she
tripped. Where is she now?
CURTIS: She`s in protective custody. And this alleged shooter has been on the run for a week. Now, what they found -- they had surveillance cameras
all over the place, as you can see. And a car arrived, dropped him off and then also took off. They`re looking for a 2010 blue Nissan Altima. And
the tag they`re looking for -- and please, if you see this car, please call CRIMESTOPPERS. And I`ll give you the number. It`s EZXF 13, tinted
windows.
The owner of the car has been notified. The owner was not in the vehicle at the time, they`ve determined, police have determined. But there was
another person in the car that dropped off the alleged shooter.
BANFIELD: So Karen, there`s another video I want to show of this suspect, Trace Walker, just laying in wait -- you can see his red shirt. He`s
laying in wait behind that building before he charges out to effectively slaughter that man. This is as the couple, the victim and his governor,
walk out of the building.
But there`s another video of the killer laying in wait. Let`s see if we can play that so that you can get a closer look at what looks like a very -
- look at him just waiting there! It almost looks like he may have a phone in his hand. But he makes a break for it, knowing exactly when to run
after his target.
And then, Karen, you probably saw he ran past another man who was a bystander. That gets me to the witnesses in this case. How many witnesses
were able to help in this case, were so close by, they got a look at him and a description of him ultimately leading to who he was?
CURTIS: You`ve` got the girlfriend and you`ve got the gentleman that you can see in the foreground there. But definitely, what police are calling
this, that this was a straight-up execution.
Mr. Wallock was a Jamaican national. He was only here for a short time. He came here to start a barber shop business. So police are looking into
his life in Jamaica to see if there are any ties there. But they still don`t know what the motive is, but this man, the alleged shooter,
definitely knew that Mr. Wallock was going to be there. And everything was planned out, as you can tell, by all of the surveillance video that shows
us exactly what happened.
BANFIELD: So by the way, we just showed a picture that had Mr. Walker seemingly wearing cornrows in his hair, and that`s one of the descriptions
that the police have put out, that he is 6-2. He has a thin build, and he may have small twists or cornrows. And since he was wearing a hat during
this extraordinary event, it`s hard to know why they know that he may have cornrows, other than some of the other photographs that he`s been seen in.
But that`s clear as day, that picture right there. That photograph of him is clear as day as to what he looks like.
And we have just gone through two weeks, actually four, of hunting down a guy named Markeith Loyd, who did an execution-style killing of a police
lieutenant in Florida, and now here we are near Fort Lauderdale, hunting down this person, Trace Walker.
I want to bring in my lawyers again. Danny Cevallos, you thought, as well as I did, once he had finished is victim on the ground, he went after the
witness. That is a whole new set of charges! That`s not just firing accidentally out into the -- you know, into the blue yonder. That`s going
after a witness to a crime.
DANNY CEVALLOS, CNN LEGAL ANALYST: This is a -- clearly, a premeditated murder, which has a special aggravator in Florida, and then going after a
witness, trying to eliminate anyone who may have seen it. Or you know, then again, she may have also been one of the targets, as well, being just
connected to the victim as it is. So that`s a possibility to look into, too.
BANFIELD: You know, Jan, I don`t -- I mean, if there -- if the death penalty were written for this -- a crime, it would be this kind of crime.
JAN RONIS, DEFENSE ATTORNEY: Well, in fact, the death penalty is written for these kinds of crimes. And you mentioned that he was lying in wait,
and that is a special circumstance that will support a death penalty in the event that he`s arrested and prosecuted, so...
BANFIELD: And Jonna, doesn`t the aggravator also include going after the witness?
JONNA SPILBOR, FORMER PROSECUTOR: It would include that. It would also include the fact that -- listen, this is broad daylight, Ashleigh! This
guy wasn`t even trying to hide himself. He clearly was intending that to be his target. Why? Was he getting even, or was he getting paid? What`s
really going on here? It`s crazy.
BANFIELD: It is just astounding. I want to put up his face one more time because if we`re in this manhunt circumstance again -- we know what
Markeith Loyd was able to do after the alleged killing of his pregnant girlfriend, the carnage was left in his wake for a month.
So this is Trace Walker. And we have seen what happened on that video, how violent and cruel and inhumane the treatment was of that victim, who was
felled instantly and executed, 13 shots, the girlfriend terrified, running off, shot at. Thank God she tripped, is all I can say! Thank God she
tripped. Her life may have been spared. She is in protective custody. And they are on the hunt for this man tonight. If you can help, call your
local police because that is a dangerous situation.
[20:00:04]We`re going to continue to follow this story. Obviously, as we get developments, we`re going to bring them to you.
A teenager jailed on charges that she shot and killed her own dad. So what`s the mom saying? Her mom`s saying that that young girl is a hero.
You`ll find out why.
And an accused cop killer back in court. I told you about Markeith Loyd, the gift that keeps giving in terms of bad, ugly video. He`s continuing
his anti-authority, anti-judge tirades in front of a person he should be begging for mercy from.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: ... carjacking with a firearm...
LOYD: Excuse me. The lady in the black dress...
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: ... aggravated assault...
LOYD: ... may I have your name, please?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: ... with intent to commit a felony, and finally, possession of a...
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BANFIELD: Either she is a teenage hero who saved a family from an abusive father, or she is a maniacal killer who executed her own dad in cold blood
as he slept. For a family in Warren, Ohio, what you believe depends on what side of the family you`re on. Fifteen-year-old Bresha Meadows is
locked up tonight, charged with murdering her father while he swept on the couch.
[20:15:02]Her mom called 911 just moments after this happened.
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911 OPERATOR: 911.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: My daughter (EXPLETIVE DELETED), and she just shot my husband in the (EXPLETIVE DELETED) head!
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BANFIELD: Meadows is charged as a juvenile. But she`s charged with aggravated murder in her dad, Jonathan`s, death. And there is a very
strange twist here. Her mom calls her daughter a hero, saying that she had been abused by her husband, her children`s father, for years. According to
reports, Brandi Meadows filed for a protective order against him back in 2011. But later, she had it dismissed and she said that she was just plain
afraid to leave.
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BRANDI MEADOWS, BRESHA MEADOWS`S MOTHER: She`s my hero. I wasn`t strong enough to get out! And she helped us all. And she`s my hero, our hero.
And now we need to move forward and have us a better life.
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BANFIELD: Ian Friedman is Bresha Meadows`s attorney, and he joins me live from Cleveland. Ian, thank you so much for being with me.
IAN FRIEDMAN, BRESHA`S ATTORNEY: Thanks, Ashleigh.
FRIEDMAN: You take the dad`s 45-caliber handgun and you put it to his head while he`s sleeping. What on earth is her defense?
FRIEDMAN: The defense in this case is clearly self-defense. That`s what was claimed that evening, and our investigation since then over the last
six months has corroborated that fact. This was an extremely, extremely abusive household towards Mom, siblings, and Bresha, and this is what she
felt she had to do in order to defend herself and the family.
BANFIELD: So we have heard Bresha`s mom saying, This is my hero, I should have gotten out sooner.
FRIEDMAN: Right.
BANFIELD: How strong is that for your case? How much can that actually play into your case?
FRIEDMAN: Well, I mean, really, there`s only a number of people in the house. I know a lot of people -- Mr. Meadows`s side of the family,
obviously, is mourning, and you know, I understand that. But the only people who really know what happened were Bresha, her mother and the two
siblings. And all of them are saying the same thing, that Jonathan Meadows was extremely abusive in that household. And we`re not talking, you know,
just little pushing and slapping around. We`re talking about brutal beatings. And you know, this was a...
BANFIELD: So I`m glad you brought up those siblings, Ian, because, you know, obviously, Brandi has something to say. She`s been public about it.
But then there are these two other siblings that you just mentioned, Jonathan, who I think is 21, and Brianna (ph), who is 19. Correct me if
I`m wrong. And you`re saying they corroborate this story completely, they`ve gone on the record, will be witnesses in this case for their
sister, for their little sister?
FRIEDMAN: So they will be witnesses that we will be calling in our case in chief. I am confident that they are going to paint the accurate picture in
this case, which will leave only one conclusion in the end. Unfortunately, this 14-year-old living in a nightmare, had to do what no 14-year-old, what
no person should ever have to do. This should not have happened. They`ll back that up, yes.
BANFIELD: Ian, you heard me at the beginning of this story say that it really depends on what side of the family you`re on as to whether you
believe this young teenager is a hero or a monster. And understandably, Mr. Meadows`s family is devastated. In fact, I believe his sister said
this was a, quote, "cold, calculated murder." And I will guarantee you that is also something will get into court, as well.
How are you going to get past that?
FRIEDMAN: Look, I`ve never walked into a courtroom where there weren`t two sides to the story (INAUDIBLE) But the one thing about Mr. Meadows`s family
is they were not there. They did not live there. They were not part of that daily nightmare.
This family was, this component of the family. Bresha was there, and this is what she saw every day of her life for 14 years. So you know, when her
mom hails her a hero, you know, I understand why they`re saying that and I know that it may be tough for people to understand, but when you are forced
to live in that sort of home, it`s a whole different story. Most people can`t even really imagine what was going on there. And I`m glad they
can`t.
BANFIELD: Well, we`ll see what happens, obviously, when this ends up being litigated in the spring.
Hold for a moment, if you will, Ian. And I want to bring in Jonna and Jan and Danny again. Danny, look, there are two sides to every story. I get
it. And there are abusive households. I get it.
Can you actually use that as an excuse to put a gun to someone`s head and say, I just had to stop the insanity?
CEVALLOS: Ashleigh, you`ve honed right in on the issue because whether it`s self-defense or defense or another, the law requires an imminent
danger -- imminent meaning immediate, about to happen.
And courts have gone both ways when a defendant alleges that repeated pervasive abuse put them in apprehension of imminent physical harm. It
could go both ways because you want -- the prosecution can argue, Well, he had threatened you many times, you weren`t in actual fear of that moment,
especially in the case where somebody is asleep and not posing any immediate threat.
[20:20:10]BANFIELD: So Jan, about this imminent issue -- I guess we`re all adults and we understand what imminent danger is. She was 14 when this
happened. Is "imminent" different for a 14-year-old? Would a judge, jury, a juvenile system look at it differently?
JAN RONIS, DEFENSE ATTORNEY: Well, first of all, a juvenile is going to get a lot more sympathy from the trier, whether it`s a jury or a judge,
than an adult would be...
BANFIELD: Even a juvenile who puts a gun to her father`s head while he`s sleeping?
RONIS: Sometimes, there aren`t two sides to a story. And you mentioned earlier that it depends upon what side of the family you listen to to get
at the facts. But the truth of the matter is, as Mr. Friedman said, it`s possible that the other family didn`t know of the abuse. It`s very
possible, as he says, that the abuse took place, you know, in an isolated situation where other people didn`t know. So there may not be two sides to
this story.
BANFIELD: So Jonna, does it help that you have older sister, older brother, mom, all coming in, as Mr. -- as Mr. Friedman, the defendant`s
lawyer said, corroborating their story that this was a hellhole to live in, that they couldn`t live any longer with this abusive father?
SPILBOR: In this case, I`m going to say it must have helped, because otherwise, the prosecutor didn`t have to leave this case in juvenile court.
And the fact that -- and what`s bothering me most about this is that she put a gun to her father`s head when he was sound asleep!
BANFIELD: Yes, that`s the imminent thing. It`s real hard to get past that, right?
SPILBOR: Very hard to get past because if you have the wherewithal to do that, you have the wherewithal to pack a bag and go to Grandma`s house or
go someplace else instead of killing your own father. But the DA must be convinced that there are some mitigating circumstances, or they probably
would have not kept this in juvenile court.
BANFIELD: All right, we`re going to keep our eye on that one, as well.
An accused cop killer, Markeith Loyd -- I think you`ve come to know him well, mostly because of the videos of (ph) him in court. And now we`re
learning a whole lot more about his alleged victim, Lieutenant Debra Clayton, and her brave fight after being shot and how she was able to pull
off a few more rounds against him, too.
Plus this, a car on fire. Inside, a woman is trapped. The amazing lengths that this hero cop went to get her out alive.
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[20:26:25]BANFIELD: For the second time in less than a week, Markeith Loyd unleashed on a judge while up on murder charges. Who could forget these
images from his first appearance, Loyd just full of profanity, and a full tirade against the judge while she`s reading a laundry list of charges
connected to the killing of Loyd`s pregnant ex-girlfriend, Sade Dixon.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Can you please tell me your name?
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BANFIELD: Yes. So now there`s a second round of charges, and this one pertains to the officer. He was brought into the court on the charges that
he killed Orlando police lieutenant Debra Clayton. And with the right to remain silent, oh, no, no. Loyd would remain defiant.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: All right, thank you. Let`s go ahead and begin. Good morning, sir. Can you go ahead and tell me your name, please? I
recognize you from yesterday. Corrections, is this Mr. Loyd, Markeith Loyd? All right. Thank you. Let`s go ahead and begin these first
appearances.
LOYD: You can`t speak for me, bro. You don`t know me.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Sir, you`re here for the charge of murder of a...
LOYD: Ain`t no Markeith Loyd. Who are you?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: All right, you`re here for murder of a law enforcement officer...
LOYD: Do you have a claim against me?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: ... attempted murder of a law enforcement officer, carjacking with a firearm...
LOYD: Excuse me, lady in the black dress...
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: ... aggravated assault...
LOYD: May I have your name, please?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: ... with intent to commit a felony, and finally, possession of a bulletproof vest and commission of a felony. A judge did
sign off on this, therefore finding probably cause. Bond is set at no bonds on 1, 2, 3. And on 4 and 5, $20,000 and $10,000. Bond is set at a
total of no bond plus $30,000.
Mr. Loyd, do you want the services of the public defender? I`ll ask you again. Mr. Loyd, would you like a public defender appointed to represent
you?
LOYD: You have a claim against me? May I ask who your name is, ma`am?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: All right, I`m finding he didn`t fill out any paperwork, Corrections.
LOYD: And for the record, please...
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It`s my understanding he didn`t want to. So I`ll go ahead and...
LOYD: Can you state your name...
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: ... and find that he`s waived his appearance...
LOYD: ... for the record, please, ma`am?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: ... for today. This first appearance is over. Good luck to you, Mr. Loyd.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
BANFIELD: Because you`re going to need it, Mr. Loyd! With an attitude like that and with the laundry list of crimes against you, luck is just
about all you have at this point.
Can also tell you that new tonight, according to the lawsuit`s autopsy report, she was shot four times. And police say Loyd fired at Clayton
three times outside of that Orlando Wal-Mart on January 9th, with one of those bullets breaking her hip. The fourth and fatal bullet hit Lieutenant
Clayton in her neck, as she lay on her back.
For her part, though, police say that Lieutenant Clayton was able to fire off seven rounds while she was dying on the ground. And she struck him.
He was wearing a protective vest, and that`s what saved him.
And if Loyd`s disrespect inside the courtroom wasn`t enough to make you sick, there`s this. Lieutenant Clayton`s old squad car has been
vandalized. This was part of a memorial at the police headquarters in Orlando. And written in blue on the cruiser, weird things like "taxpayer,"
"rapest (ph)" -- spelled wrong -- "DOA," "Angela Madison," whoever that is -- "Angela Madison is the best" on a dead officer`s cruiser, "Love you,"
and "Kansas (ph)." Car has now been cleaned up.
And today, an attorney for Markeith Loyd`s niece, Lakensha Smith-Loyd, filed a motion to have her bail lowered to $5,000. Let`s remember the
original bail was set at $750,000. So you do the math -- $750,000?
(LAUGHTER)
BANFIELD: She wants it lowered to $5,000.
[20:30:03] She`s charged with helping Loyd hide out after police say he murdered his pregnant ex-girlfriend. There she is. And let`s not forget at
what happened during that hide out and later, was the death of another woman. And the injuries of others as well.
Joining me once again, Jonna Spilbor, Jan Ronis, and Danny Cevallos. Hi, Danny. I can only imagine it doesn`t help her case, when you lift off the
judge, and you are facing effectively the most serious charges that the states here in America can lay upon you, the death penalty.
CEVALLOS: He`s really not gonna do himself a ton of damage at that particular hearing because it`s essentially a bond hearing. He`s not
getting bond. It would not have made a difference. He may have known that on some level.
More likely than not, you know, I don`t know if you guys agree with me, but that kind of behavior isn`t as uncommon as you think. There`s always a
defendant like that, one or two a day in a courtroom. And they always put on a show. And it never is to their benefit.
BANFIELD: Yeah. Let me read something from the arrest affidavit just so you can get a clear sense of this crime from the officers who took him in. The
suspect advances -- by the way, they watched the video. They watched the surveillance video, so a lot of this comes from that.
The suspect advances towards her with his right arm outstretched and repeatedly firing his gun at Sergeant Clayton while she is on her back.
Sergeant Clayton fires her weapon from her back seven times at the suspect as he stands over her firing. The suspect runs counterclockwise around her
with his gun pointing towards her head as he fires several more shots in rapid succession. The entire exchange of gunfire last six seconds.
I`ll also say that outside the Walmart, there were eight 40-caliber shell casings. They matched the casings found at none other than the other murder
scene, Sade Dixon. That can`t be a good fact.
CEVALLOS: Definitely not. They`re going to connect that up along with all this other evidence that is ever mounting against this defendant.
BANFIELD: And Jan, bullet cases are one thing, guns are another, right? The Smith and Wesson 40-caliber matched the rounds from both scenes. The gun
matches too.
RONIS: Yeah, it looks like it certainly sounds like a strong case against him. In terms of his behavior, this isn`t as common as he was saying. The
judges have a lot of authority. The judge should give him composition of hearing to see if he really understands the nature of the charges against
him.
The judge at some point could order him isolated and put him in another room with, you know, with audio to the proceedings in court. So the judges
have a lot of authority to these kinds of unruly defendants.
BANFIELD: Okay. So have a listen to this again from the arrest affidavit. And this is basically what I can only imagine is an excuse for killing
Officer Clayton. This is what Loyd says. She pulled her gun out first. And that the shooting may not have happened had she waited for backup. Does
that ever fly?
SPILBOR: No. Jan is being classy and kind. This guy is dead to rights.
BANFIELD: He`s trying to mount some foolish self-defense against an officer.
SPILBOR: And you know why? This cannot be his first day in a courtroom. I guarantee you it`s not.
BANFIELD: He`s got a long list of charges against him. By the way, he`s got an excuse for the pregnant ex-girlfriend too.
SPILBOR: Oh.
BANFIELD: I guess you`re not surprised. You know what he said as an excuse for shooting her was? He said that they began to tussle. The pregnant ex-
girlfriend and he were tussling. Which is such a euphemism for I was beating the hell out of her.
And then, when Dixon`s brother attacked him, he said the shooting was self- defense. And he also says Sade Dixon had a gun. But there were no other casings found anywhere, except his.
SPILBOR: I hope his shenanigans in the courtroom do not give rise to either competency or an insanity defense for this guy because he deserves to be
locked up. He`ll probably kill someone once he`s locked up. That attitude isn`t going to serve him well.
BANFIELD: He`s a very disturbing person and such a disturbing story. The sooner we can shut him up.
SPILBOR: Yeah.
BANFIELD: . and lock him up, the better. For a lot of high schoolers, there`s nothing like a big old house party. The bash that police say this
one particular woman threw for her daughter was a booze filled sex fest, and she`s allegedly part of it.
Plus, this alligator isn`t just having a nice little sunbath, he`s actually lying in wait. And his target is this nice happy tourist boat.
[20:35:00] (COMMERCIAL BREAK)
BANFIELD: Who doesn`t love a good house party when you`re in high school? Our parents usually weren`t involved at all, let alone providing the
alcohol and the sex. But the police in Brandenton, Florida say that this woman did, Jaimie Ayer, during her daughter`s party, two days before
Christmas, Merry Christmas. Not only did Miss Ayer allegedly give the teens the booze, the officer say she had sex with some of the kids.
Five of them. Five boys at the party. Teenagers. According to the witnesses, the defendant`s own daughter saw her mom having sex in one of
the bedrooms. Joining me again, Jonna Spilbor, Jan Ronis, and Danny Cevallos.
First, I want to check in with Roger Schulman who is news director for AM 860 The Answer. He joins me live in Tampa. Okay, Roger, honestly when I
read this, I thought, no, that can`t be true. But this -- there are details that are corroborated by almost all the kids at the party.
ROGER SCHULMAN, NEWS DIRECTOR FOR AM 860 THE ANSWER: Well, being in high school many years ago, and talking to some high schoolkids today, this is
kind of an arch type that`s been with us for many years. But with the advent of social media and bullying and that sort of thing, it has come
more to light.
BANFIELD: More to light. I mean, the details here are foul. She`s alleged to have been witnessed by one of the girls at the party to have been with
two of the boys at one time and then her own daughter is alleged to walk in on her with another boy. All of these sex acts not being small, being very
significant.
[20:40:00] I mean, she`s facing 105 years for this, Roger.
SCHULMAN: That is correct. She apparently had alcohol for the children, and invited one of the boys into the bedroom to assist her with her shower.
Another boy came in and they did engage in a sexual act of a significant nature. As you mentioned, it did happen, and then apparently it was four
16-year-olds and one 17-year-old that were actually involved in all of this activity.
BANFIELD: So the charges are unlawful sexual activity of certain minors? It`s sort of specific code in your state. What about alcohol, child
endangerment? What about all those other possibilities? Are we waiting for more charges? Is this an investigation that`s continuing?
SCHULMAN: I think so, and I think the alcohol would have gotten her in trouble alone if they had been able to prove that, but it went very far,
and it did not come out to a light until the daughter started getting bullying after the Christmas break when they all went back to school. It
came out then when she complained about that, and the whole thing unraveled.
BANFIELD: Well, that will happen. You know, teens talk. Teens gossip. Teens believe. And that`s a pretty big story for them to talk about at school.
Danny Cevallos, they got eight witnesses from the party who have corroborated the story. I can only imagine that it`s extraordinarily
powerful.
CEVALLOS: Yeah, Florida remember has a Romeo and Juliet provision, but for the most part.
BANFIELD: Not when you`re 40.
CEVALLOS: Not when you`re 40.
BANFIELD: Not when you`re 40.
CEVALLOS: Yes, I`m getting to that, Ashleigh. Yes, but under 18, right, you know, it`s funny. In high school, you always thought the kids whose parents
let them have parties at their house were cool. It turns out they`re not cool. I wish I have known that then. But it`s really amazing, it continues
to happen, year after year.
BANFIELD: It`s weird, it`s gross, some of the -- this poor daughter who is alleged to have walked in on her mom with a pal, you know. All right. I got
a couple of updates that you didn`t know about tonight. A judge is going to allow Judy Malinowski to re-court her testify next week. This is important.
Because this is the way the prosecutors can play that testimony in case she dies. And that`s a homicide trial.
You`re going to remember this story. The Ohio woman who was doused with gasoline and set on fire by her ex, Michael Slager. He`s pleaded no
contest, sentenced to 11 years. Because it was arson and assault, not attempted murder or murder if she dies. The prosecutors say they`re going
to go after him for murder if she dies. So testimony would be critical from her.
She`s endured more than 50 surgeries since that 2015 attack. She`s unable to leave the hospital bed. Critical condition. All at that time. That`s her
mom on the right. They have fought hard for that opportunity. Watch to see what happens.
Last week, we showed you some disturbing video of an Ohio lawyer hypnotizing a client, a divorce lawyer, and then taking advantage of his
client for sexual gratification. He was convicted of kidnapping. He`s going to be spending the next 12 years in prison. And this morning, another one
of Michael Fine`s victims talked about this ordeal that she went through.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: He ruined a lot of people`s lives. He likes to hold your hand, he`s right there with you, he`s going to protect you, and he was
actually the one who is the predator.
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BANFIELD: Talking to Good Morning America. Guess what? He`s now being sued by her attorney and her. She says that she wants him to be held accountable
for what he has done.
I hope you are not making plans for Friday, because there`s something great coming, the HLN original series "How It Really Happened with Hill Harper,"
is going to premiere on Friday. And it`s going to look into this country`s one of the most shocking crimes and mysteries of all time, kicking off with
the Menendez brothers. The murder in Beverly Hills.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I think that all children love their parents. Trauma to the torso. Parents are like Gods to their kids. Immense in carnage.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And he loved me.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Shocking the amount of blood.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And I loved him.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: This was sort of a horrific crime.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It sounded like, pow, pow, pow, pow.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Was it robbery? Was it a gang-related type thing? Was it a mafia-related type thing?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Who hated them?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Something wasn`t right.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I definitely would have given my life for my parents.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
BANFIELD: "How It Really Happened with Hill Harper" is premiering this Friday 8:00 eastern right here on HLN. I can`t wait. It looks great. Okay.
An alligator in Florida.
[20:45:00] A tour boat. What could possibly go wrong?
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I`m going to have to ease down and push my way off this bank to get away from this dude. You can reach out and slap him, can`t you?
[20:50:00] UNIDENTIFIED MALE: If I wanted to, yeah.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Are you nervous?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yeah.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Okay, let`s not make no sudden moves, because they.
(SCREAMING)
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BANFIELD: Road trip. I`m going to take you to Daytona Beach. This is not a fun trip. This is one of those things where I say, is alligator tourism a
good idea? I`ve done it. And I was super scared the whole time that something might go wrong. And now, I have the video to prove I wasn`t
crazy. Roll it.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I`m going to have to ease down and push my way off this bank to get away from this dude. You can reach out and slap him, can`t you?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: If I wanted to, yeah.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Are you nervous?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yeah.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Okay, let`s not make no sudden moves, because they.
(SCREAMING)
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Oh, my.
BANFIELD: Oh, man. He flew on the boat. Okay. And now you can breathe. Except not really because he`s not that far away. Jan, I just look at this
like a civil case waiting to happen.
RONIS: Well, if the alligator wasn`t endangered and he shot it -- we could have a crime here.
BANFIELD: But I still think that those people were in danger. Why do you go cruising up the side? The guy I was with was throwing marshmallows at the
guy regularly. Like enticing him, I`m a food source, I`m a food source.
RONIS: Not a good idea.
BANFIELD: Well, it did give us a remarkable video. If you`re going to go out alligator touring, be careful. They can get anywhere. All right. This
next video is so amazing, and I`m just going to put a huge shout-out to Officer Tim Schwering, I hope I got your name right, in Spokane,
Washington.
Because if I`m ever in trouble, Officer Schwering, I want you in that fox hole with me. You rescued Kimberly Novak locked in her car. That car was on
fire and it was not easy. It was really not easy to get in. Take a look.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: For over a minute, he was using his baton to try to get into this woman`s car. Everything was immobile. She couldn`t use any of the
electronics. She couldn`t get out of the car. And the car is on fire.
SPILBOR: Yes.
BANFIELD: And I just think we don`t honor our cops enough for doing this kind of thing.
SPILBOR: Definition of hero, right there. Putting yourself in danger, giving up at nothing until you save the day. Got to love that guy.
BANFIELD: Officer hugging Kim Novak. This is picture of them hugging later. Because that was -- If I ran into him later.
SPILBOR: I`d marry him.
BANFIELD: Here they are. It just warms my heart in all that snow. All right. Well, congratulations, Tim, you are my hero as well. Thank you for
doing that. That was a lot of work. Not easy to do.
I showed you this video. It was like from groundhog day that thief that just walked right up to the armor car and nobody was there so -- he just
picked up a bucket of gold, a bucket of gold flakes worth over $1 million and walked off. We`ve been looking for him ever since. And guess what? We
found him. Did they get the gold?
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BANFIELD: Do you need more proof that the millionaires always win? Remember the story about Louis Bianculli in Florida who is on house arrest in his $4
million mansion? And he wasn`t supposed to go outside unless he was out there exercising. But definitely not fishing. That wasn`t part of the deal.
And where`s your cane, Louis? You`re supposed to have a cane. That was the whole reason you got to be on house arrest.
So it turns out after this video was shot, he had to go back into court but guess what happened? No bail revoked. He gets to stay. He gets to stay in
his fancy mansion in Florida with that ankle monitor. If you missed the story, the serious charges against him are disgusting. They`re about his
12-year-old stepdaughter, all sorts of sexual assault charges and gross stuff, asphyxiation, so there you go, enjoy your lunch poolside. Nicer than
any vacation I`ve had.
Here`s a lesson if you`re going to steal a car, don`t leave your stuff in it, because it can be tied to you, especially if it`s your teeth. If you
leave your teeth in the stolen car, they are going to catch you. I am speaking of Lindsey Stanley-McShane, 31 years old, in Lady Lake, Florida.
In Lady Lake, Florida.
So that happened. Miss Stanley-McShane left her teeth in a stolen vehicle and her sneakers too. So they kind of caught her there. By the way, they`re
keeping in an evidence. She doesn`t get her teeth back because it`s in the evidence locker.
All right. The bucket of gold seller. I love this because it was so close to Rockefeller Center in New York City, really close to Trump Tower too,
where that guy just walks right up to an armor car and steals a bucket of gold flakes worth $1.6 million.
We now know his name. Julio Nivelo. AKA David Vargas. They found him in Ecuador, guys. There he goes. That was so easy. They found him in Ecuador.
They did not find the gold. What do you do with a guy like that? He`s not even extradited yet.
CEVALLOS: Big surprise. But I guess, you know, I understand they found him near the end of the rainbow, anyone? Anyone?
(LAUGHTER)
BANFIELD: You are invited back. Have you got some cute reference there?
RONIS: I can`t top that. I have some, but I can`t top that one.
BANFIELD: Not even comedy gold, nothing like that? Nothing?
RONIS: I take a pass.
BANFIELD: Oh, come on. Jonna.
SPILBOR: I got nothing.
BANFIELD: You got nothing.
CEVALLOS: I got more, hold on.
(LAUGHTER)
BANFIELD: It`s gold, Jerry. It`s gold, Jerry. Come on you guys. For one thing, do you get to extradite someone from Ecuador? Do we have a treaty
with them?
CEVALLOS: Yes, I believe we do. Yes, I believe we do.
BANFIELD: At one point, $1.6 million is a lot of flakes. That`s not -- I mean, it`s adorable video, but really a serious crime.
CEVALLOS: It`s no joke, but, I mean, I don`t know how they`re going to track it down. I mean, it`s not going to show up in a pawnshop, I can tell
you that.
BANFIELD: Right. They didn`t find the bucket of gold. That makes me mad.
SPILBOR: But how does nobody on a city street notice this guy hauling a bucket of gold.
BANFIELD: Because you know what?
SPILBOR: . in the sidewalk?
BANFIELD: It went with the soundtrack. It just looked so simple.
All right. Thanks everybody. Great to have you Jan, Jonna, Danny. As always, thank you. Thank you, everyone. Good to have you here.
See you back here tomorrow night at 8:00 p.m. for PRIMETIME JUSTICE. In the meantime, stay tuned because that amazing show "FORENSIC FILES" starts
right now.
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